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Hitler was a fucking idiot
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who killed people based on actions that other people from their 'group' were 'responsible' for.
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SHITTING
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>>1059
Doesn't refute my point.
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Hitler was a brutally efficient diplomat and strategist. He's just a bad tactician.
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>>1188
Doesn't justify him killing people.
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fuck hitler.
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>>1569
And? How is that history? Fuck off
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Agree
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>War is inevitably lost
>Instead of pushing the slavs out as far as possible and letting the West in Hitler orders razing what is left of Germany into the ground and orders more forces to the West

Fucking asshat.
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>>2351
>How are events that occured in the past History
history
ˈhJst(ə)ri/
noun
1.
the study of past events, particularly in human affairs.
"medieval European history"
synonyms: the past, former times, historical events, days of old, the old days, the good old days, time gone by, bygone days, yesterday, antiquity; More
antonyms: the future
the past considered as a whole.
"letters that have changed the course of history"
synonyms: background, past, family background, life story, antecedents;
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>junkie
>pedophile
>xenofobe

What else was under his belt?
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>>2661

Legend
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>>2687
Not a good one.

"Tyrant with low self-esteem" is more appropriate.
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>>2687
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>>2564
>dictionary posting
You're an idiot. History involves studying the how and why. It's not a civil court you redditor
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>>1033
>who killed people based on actions that other people from their 'group' were 'responsible' for.
How many of the great conquerors in history didn't do this? Not saying Hitler was a great conqueror - he couldn't hold on to measly bits of land for more than 5 years.
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>>1033
>he believes in the holohoax
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holy shit there's actually a /his/ board
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>>2795
>Oooooooh words hold no meaning

Are you Illiterate? Smoking too much pot during breaks at work?
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>>2863
Even if he didn't kill 6 million (And I'm not saying I agree he didn't), he still killed inncoent people for shit reasons. Murderer in my book.

>>2820
Doesn't make their action right, or moral.
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>>2999
>india arguing literacy
don't you have a toilet to be shitting next to
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>>3091
Literally both sides did as such, especially the communists. You're singling out Hitler because you're a leftist.
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>>3091
>for shit reasons
you would know, right?
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>>3336
Hitler initiated force. The other side counteracted because of it.

Also, what the other side did does not compare with what hitler did.

The other side was also on a higher moral ground than Hitler.


>>3400
>>3283
>Not refuting my points
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>>3848
why would we listen to a country that has designated shitting streets? poo in the loo
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DESIGNATED
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>>3961
SHITTING
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This thread shows how much the flags need to go.
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>>3920
It actually doesn't have Designated Shitting Streets.

Also, judging people based on what others around them do is cowardice. You substitute the group for the individual.
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>>3848
Explain how they were on higher moral ground.
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>>4081
so where do you poo?
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>>1033
He went from being some homeless guy in Vienna to the supreme leader of Germany in less than 20 years, quite impressive tbqhwy
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>>2999
The words have meaning. Just not what you're saying they have. Posting
>Hitler is le evil
Is so redundant. That's like saying
>the sky is blue
On /sci/. Talk about the what, how, why, etc. Form a thesis. Back it up. Move out of India.
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>>3848
If you actually knew any history, you would know about WWI, which germany didn't start and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles

The treaty enabled WWII because of singling out germany as the initiator in the conflict, when that was not the case.
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>>2863
Prove to me there was no holocaust without using /pol/ jpgs.
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>>4654
This
It's England's fault. They didn't HAVE to be in the war but did and contributed greatly to the stalemate of the western front.
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>>4841
First off:
>proving a negative
There are no documents or pictures to back it up.
>inb4 pictures of people with typhus
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you cant deny it was good for the economy
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>>4085
Use of force is not immoral. Initiation of force is. Suppose someone hits you for something you were not responsible for, (or just for the heck of it, or some other bs reason) would you not hit back? Then your use of force would be justified as self-defense. And that is correct.

Hitler was the one who imposed arbitrary rules upon people for stupid reasons, and made them pay for it with their lives. Would you not fight back in a situation like this?

>>4358
Please link the post you are referring to.

>>4197
I have a proper bathroom.
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>>1033
He was an idiot for attacking the urss in winter
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>>4935
So you admit there's no proof it never happened?
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>>4935
>proving a negative
I hate to be this way but that's what you're doing. The Holocaust is recognized internationally as academic fact. Proving it wrong is on you. You have to prove that the evidence is faked.
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>the mods are deleting Holocaust denial threads
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>>4955
First off, the initiation of force is sometimes necessary if you're fighting policies or situations that need to be taken care of. (ie american revolution)

>Hitler was the one who imposed arbitrary rules upon people for stupid reasons
What rules? Why were they stupid?
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>>5024
wehraboos use falsified internal numbers to make germany look more invincible than it was. for example they lower the amount of tanks the soviets destroyed
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>>2029
i totally would fuck hitler, hitler is fucking hot
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>>5084
>so you admit there's no proof that aliens didn't build the pyramids?
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>>5223
there is proof that humans built it though. there's precedents with earlier pyramids, and historians have charted their evolution, where the workers lived, etc.
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This thread doesn't seem any less shitposty than /pol/. The only difference I see is the political views.

>>5024
Wasn't this already debunked by Irving? If I recall correctly he said that it was Reich generals who made that call when Hitler was sick, I believe it was based on Hitler's doctor's notes.
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>>4654
The treaty enabled the war, sure, but Hitler still was the initiator of force.

Also, what would have stopped him from taking over other countries had the war not been there? Germany would have been at war the second a country that provided vital goods to the USA or England was fucked with.
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>>1033
I don't like /pol/ shit, but the fact you are for censoring certain discussion of a very crucial and highly discussed part of History because "he wuz evil!!!" shows you do not belong on this board.

Its called free speech, whether you like it or not, they have the right to discuss Historical events on the History board. Grow up you fucking manchildren.
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>>5264
This thread started when flags were enabled. Give it time.
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>>1091
STREETS

I can tell the OP was a Pajeet, RIP flags
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I'm not gonna justify what Nazis did, but it really pains me to see how many people think that Allies were any better. The only difference is that they've won and wrote the history from that point.
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>>4358
One of those is a political issue, and the other is a scientific fact.

But keep it up with that liberal logic, its not like you are looking like an immature pissbaby or anything.
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>>5411
What did the allies do wrong?
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>>5199
[citation needed]
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>>1033
>that lazy eye
did he actually have one or was the artist shitposting?
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>>1033
>people
laff
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>>5156
Don't bother trying to argue with him. He's applying his modern values and line of thinking on to a completely different time, without trying to contextualise anything or look at it without an overwhelming dose of humanist feelings. I'm not saying emotion has no place in historiography or whatever, but the guy is completely talking out of his ass about things he doesn't know anything about, only basing his claims off of popular misconceptions about the Nazis and Hitler.
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>>5338
>muh freeze peach
You can say whatver you want but know that if you make claims with no evidence you're going to get shit on
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>>5156
Initiation of force (in the context you provided) is moral, because it would be fought by people who voluntarily consented to it. Killing people who did not do anything to you is just plain wrong.

>Rules by Hitler
His whole Ideology was broken. He got rid of all Property Rights, and ascribed total devotion tot he state or death. Atheism was forced upon people. 'Jews' were killed.
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Can't /his/ identify with Hitler and the National Socialists goals?
>country completely rekt by treaties after WW1
>communist revolution lead by jewish intellectuals
>Jews themselves being a group that, according to Hitler in Mein Kampf, segregated themselves from German culture and society, and regardless of whether or not the holocaust happened or was intended to happen presented a distinct culture making up the majority of bankers etc seen as infiltrating the system for their own benefit
>Wants to rejuvenate national fraternity, strength, and quality of life
>doesn't like robber baron capitalists
>doesn't like communists
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>>4859
Fucks sake England, thanks to you the white race got fucked
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>>5424
Read the context. I'm the one telling him that moralizing history is intellectually retarded, redundant, and useless
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>>5572
Prove I'm wrong, Bitch.
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>>3848
>Hitler initiated force. The other side counteracted because of it.
France and England declared war on Germany, not the other way around.
Germany did however declare war on the US, because of Japan going full retard at Pearl Harbor.

>Also, what the other side did does not compare with what hitler did.
Dresden, how America treated its Japanese citizens is known for being quite vicious.
Stalin is known for being quite a dick to his subordinates, and let us not forget the rape, pillage and burn the Russians did after pushing back German forced
>The other side was also on a higher moral ground than Hitler.
That's all subjective reasoning.


>>5024
He didn't attack in winter. Russian winter just comes surprisingly early and they weren't prepared for it, combined with increased russian resistance near Stalingrad.
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>>5591
>mocking free speech
Yep, I am definitely talking to a pansy Liberal who thinks more with his feeling than his brain.

I don't give a fuck if the claims have no evidence, its still History discussion that shouldn't be deleted because it hurts you. You can shit on it all you want.
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>>5638
Nah. I only sympathize with the anti-communism. It's not like national socialism is much better anyway
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>>5669
Yeah and they spent so much effort fucking over Ireland that they forgot that they're white too
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>>5638
I hate him more for his borderline retarded war strategies. Lets face it, who gives a fuck about the Holocaust anymore?
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>>5693
>le thinking is wrong meme
>used exclusively when you can not counteract points

Come on, strawman.

>>5726
see
>>4955
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>>5298
WWI created the events that led to Hitler seizing power. If it wasnt for the pissed of german army after WWI and Germanys shitty economy then he wouldnt have touched the Reichstag with a 10 foot flaming rag tipped barge pole
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>>5638
It had some good shit and some bad shit.
Very much like the goals of every ideology ever.
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this is literally /leftypol/ where nobody knows ANYTHING about history and every person has a special snowflake story on why HITLER SO EVIL!!
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>>5638
i think he was justified and its a shame he didnt win.
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>>5464
Accept the support of France and Italy
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>>5847
Such as?

>>5877
What was good and bad, in your opinion?
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>>1033
Hitler killed hitler, he was a saint.
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>>5464
What haven't they done wrong? They killed countless civilians, they oppressed natives in their colonies, they nuked two cities, for god's sake. They backstabbed one of their most dedicated alies in order to ally Stalin, which at that time had much more blood on his hands than Hitler. They mass murdered people in forests, they too had concentration camps. Britain and US initially agreed to sacrifice half of Europe to Communists in order to win the war.
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>>5726
>Hitler wasn't the aggressor
except for his invasion of Austria, the Sudetenland, Czechoslovakia, Danzig, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, the USSR...
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Why the fuck are threads like this allowed, but if it was the reverse it would 404 instantly? That's the problem with "no racisms" rule, it adheres to the rules of the Western media, who perpetuated the whole "hate Hitler" bullshit in the first place.
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>>5931
>BAN THINGS I DON'T LIKE
>GO BACK TO /pol/ YOU BIG MEANIE WEANIES

The adults are talking here, child.
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>>5995
this isn't /his/, this is the marxist version of /his/
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>>5931
So what part of history is you being on this board right now and and stifling debate?
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>>5981
Anschluss of Austria wasn't agression. Partition of Czechoslovakia wasn't done by Nazis alone, Poland and Hungary contributed too. France declared war on Nazi Germany and invasion of USSR was decided by his generals.
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>>5803
Theyre the wrong shade of white
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>>5728
Lel, all you did was insult him and say 'I don't care'.

What a great board this will be, just as shitty as all the other ones where when you run out of shit to say you just start sperging out.
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>who killed people based on actions that other people from their 'group' were 'responsible' for.

How does THIS of all things make him an idiot? Takes way too much effort and time to be discriminate. The Jews were a complete blight on his country, that's all he needed to know.
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>>5888
trips dont lie
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>>6035
Exactly. Free discussion is made impossible.
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>>5981
To add to >>6073
The city of Danzig was dominantly German at that time
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>>1569
when is killing ever justified, do you view the allies as saints for killing?

fucking retard
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>>5857
What Hitler did wasn't exceptional in that time, wasn't the first time it happened and most certainly won't be the last time it'll happen.
See for example the Armenian genocide.

The only thing that went different was the scale of the Nazi's systematic extermination of "unwanted people", and their broader range of what was considered unwanted. But it's not as if the jews had good lives in a majority of coutries, same goes for Roma, communists, homosexuals.

Hitler made it bureaucratic government business, but what he did wasn't unique at all.
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>>6073
>invading another country
>not aggression
This is what Nazis actually believe
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>>6029
>/pol/ sees themselves as adults
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>>5981
>sending a peacekeeping force to keep order for retarded austrians is invading
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>>2687
Legendary at losing.
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I love how /pol/ is already throwing tantrums because there are people challenging their view of history.
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>>1569
>people
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>>6039
What I'm saying is that modern history is already being debated on /pol/. This board was the perfect opportunity for ancient history.
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>>5616
>His whole Ideology was broken.
Now this is just simplistic answer

>He got rid of all Property Rights
You do realized private property was still allowed in Nazi Germany right?

>Atheism was forced upon the people
Bullshit, with the exception of Jews, there were still high amount of Christians in Germany.
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>>6186
>anti/pol/ sees themselves as adults when they use blatant logical fallacies and outright call for censorship of dissenting opinions
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>>2561
it was all or nothing
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>>6178
150,000 jews served in the SS
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>>1
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>>6186
Nope, only the people who wish for free historical discussion and not to appeal to whiny crybabies like you.
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>>6241
You can have more than one thread open at a time, you know.
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>>6180
>I don't agree with someone, I better resort to namecalling ,that will show them!
You're literally on level of /pol/, the difference is you replace JIDF with Nazi

>>6227
I love how you think the shitposting is onesided
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>>6180

Weren't the Nazis just mobilizin pre-emptively because they knew that Britain, France etc. were?

I mean, you don't think that Japan attacked Pearl Harbor just because they hated the USA that much, do you?
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>>6264
Source?
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>>6180
Fuck James the 6th for invading England too right? Because unifying countries can only be done by invasion. Fucking idiot
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>>6251
it's not anything to do with "muh freedumb of speech" you idiot. it's to make this board distinct from the others. I could post video games here and claim they are a part of 'history' but no they have their own board.

you melon
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>>6283
>I love how you think the shitposting is onesided
I never said that. It's just clear in this thread that /pol/tards are crying censorship because people are asking them for proof of their claims.
Believe me there will be plenty of leftists claiming the Holodomor never happened, and they will get the same treatment.
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>>6370
>France was a serious threat to Germany without Hitler
now I KNOW you're trolling come on.
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>>6264
The whole nazi idea of race was some weird nonsensical shit.
"are you jewish?"
"my parents are but I have nothing with the religion nor with the jewish people."
"ok you're not jewish. NEXT."
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>>6227
>Why is everyone calling me an idiot? I guess they're just apart of the group of people I don't like!

I would really prefer I you would stop talking right now.
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>>6422
/pol/ is for politics, and people there said they wanted a history board.

Now we're discussing history, and you want us to do so on /pol/?

Get a brain, moran.
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>>6381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyW_8Dl-Stk
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>>6073
>Conveniently leaves out the invasion of Poland because it weakens his argument
France didn't declare war on Germany, they were protecting their ally, Poland.
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>When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

Everyone report OP, he's breaking the rules.
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>leftypol is already here
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>>6429
Except the people who are claiming censorship are replying to posts who actively want to ban and Nazi and WW2 discussion because they think everyone who shows interest is a /pol/ user.

Fuck off
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>>6102
>The Jews were a complete blight to his country
How? Factually they weren't. They posed no threat to Germany, they didn't plan on rebelling or anything. Killing Jews didn't even help with his anti-communist agenda. it was completely pointless and didn't help the nazis at all.
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>>6440
where's your source for this conversation?
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>>5857
Moralizing for the sake of Moralizing isn't thinking, dumbass
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>>6370
>Weren't the Nazis just mobilizin pre-emptively because they knew that Britain, France etc. were?
Damn I was rused. Good bait, you got me.
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>>6429
I just don't think this shitfest is what we need. I see plenty of anti-/pol/ in this thread alone who are as retarded as the /pol/tards. I mean, I know that /pol/ has a lot of bogus sources and outdated statistics, but we can have constructive discussion and confront them with well cited facts rather than just shitpost this baby board into oblivion.
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>>6433

>implying Germany wasn't expecting war

guess that treaty with russia was for nothing, huh?
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>>6522
Well then they're idiots too for wanting to keep people from discussing part of history.
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>>6422
fuck off faggot, this is a history board, we will discuss history.

/pol/ is for politics, not history.
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>>1033
I don't consider myself a racist, but Jewish people seem to be organized to the point where they all have the same intent and mindset.
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>>5877
No. Only shit ideologies. Classic Liberalism is perfect m
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>>6282
You and I both know that if this is allowed there'll be at least 10 holocaust threads open on this board on any given time, because most teens nowadays don't know any more "history" other than WW2.
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>>6548
>If I call it bait I can pretend a fact isn't a fact
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>>6102
>oh shit our country is in shambles and morale is at an all time low, what do we do?
>I know! Let's blame an entire ethnic group just because they have a higher number of rich people

Is that really what you consider "smart"?
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>>6525
>they didn't plan on rebelling or anything.
yes they did you fool, they led a civil war, communists.
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10 bucks says /his/ will become the anti-/pol/
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>>6422
Okay, I'm taking the bait.

Hitler is a big part of History. He falls under World War 2 as being a big factor for it, which is a part of World History, the fucking topic of this board.

Thats right, WORLD HISTORY. History of the world and its people, not fucking video games you idiot. Not to mention video games aren't anything like the NATSOC party, which falls under Politics for being A POLITICAL PARTY and History FOR BEING A PART OF HISTORY.

You are the idiot here, you need to fuck off back to Reddit where they ban people for hurting feefees.
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>>6614
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319
and heres your source.

jews literally tried to destroy germany and turn it into a communist regime, like they did russia.
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>>6440
Do you actually believe that shit? The nazis persecuted jews because of ethnical reasons, not religious ones. You have to differentiate between Antijudaism (which caused Pogroms in the middle ages for example) and Antisemitism (which was the basis for the Holocaust) when talking about stuff like that.
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>>6506
It does not weaken any argument, because I never said he wasn't an aggressor. I just pointed out the mistakes in your post, you little troll. Yes he was Aggressor in the case of Poland, just like the Nederlands that you also mentioned. And yes, France declared war on Germany. They guaranteed independence of Poland, indeed, though calling it protecting is a joke. It was French army that attacked Germans first.
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>>6634
I hope
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>>6665
jews are not semites
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>>6156
>when is killing justified?
see >>4955


>>6178
>Hitler wasn't different
>Things like this keep happening
You still did not justify his actions.

>>6245
>Simplistic answer about ideology
I will address that in my next post.

"People" is not every single person in the country. Hitler abolished rights for some, and granted them to some. This was possible only through force. Jews were deprived of their property. In a just system, everyone has equal rights.
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>>6592
No, we don't know that, you think that. I know that there is plenty more historical interest on 4chan. If you're truly worried about a huge volume of one era of history being discussed, I'm sure the mods will delete duplicate threads when needs be.
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>>6634
I genuinely hope that both /pol/ and anti-/pol/ are soon kicked out of this board by people that actually want to have decent and polite discussion
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>>6654
But the whole discussion of WW2 and Nazi germany in particular is quite possibly THE most hostile thing that can be discussed on /his/. It is inviting trolls on both sides of the argument to set up easy straw men so that autists will take the bait.

I'm not advocating banning discussion because I'm not a faggot, but I can see the merit in doing so. Besides, you're a fool if you think 4chan is free speech.
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>>6592
>we should ban all WW2 threads because its popular and be spammed
>we should ban all Metal Gear Solid 5 threads because its popular and will be spammed
>we should ban all Kill la Kill threads because it is popular and will be spammed

Do you want me to keep going, because I have an example for all the boards.
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>implying the holohoax ever happened
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>>6534
>Emil Maurice
Hamilton, Charles (1984). Leaders & Personalities of the Third Reich, Vol. 1. R. James Bender Publishing. ISBN 0-912138-27-0.

Even Hitler himself made his half jewish friend (and his brothers) "honorary aryans".
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>>6720
Okay, anon. You convinced me to believe. I just don't want this board to fail is all.
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>>6675
Not even the guy you were arguing with, was just passing through.
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>>6664
>muh Dolchstoß!
>muh undefeated army!
>muh evil revolution led by the joos!

That's what you sound like to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of German history. And your source does not reinforce your point in the slightest.
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>>6802
I just wish we talked about facts instead of opinions.
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>>6803

Discussing rules this early is retarded in my opinion

The board should just run wild for a few days or weeks
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Barely a thousand posts in and we're already shitflinging with politics
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>>6830
nice non argument, faggot.
>jewish population created communism in russia
>they did the same thing germany only their revolution failed
>hurrr muh j00s
reddit, fuck off.
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>>6664
I skimmed pretty deep and it said nothing about Jews, Jewish influences or it being caused by Jews. It even lists all leaders of the SDP as German. Maybe there were Jews in there, I'd bet there were, but to say it was a Jewish attempt to create civil war is silly, just as silly as saying Jews overtook Russia.
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>>6802
>can discuss anything and post anything that doesn't break US law
>dat ain't free speesh thoe
???

>>6820
Neither do I, but I'm convinced that ww2 is simply too popular to be banned outright. Shitposting may prove a problem but we can surely deal with that in itself.
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>>6802
>THE most hostile thing that can be discussed on /his/

What the fuck? What excuse does that make for banning it.

Thats like saying "Ban all Nintendo discussion" on /v/ because it is the most hostile thing to discuss.

And 4chan might now be free speech, but it certainly does pander to feelings.
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>>6861
>already
I think it was inevitable at the beginning, this board has to stabilize.
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>>6874
>just as silly as saying Jews overtook Russia
what?
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>>6874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6p1zxKnDeM
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>>6686
Now we're discussing semantics. What matters is that the term is used to describe a hatred for Jewish people based on ethnical grounds.
The term was made up in the late 19th century in Germany as a more scientifically sounding expression for Judenhass (literally jew-hatred) but never applied to Semitic people as a whole.
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>>6900
>What excuse does that make for banning it.
It doesn't, like I said. But there is no free speech on this site, the mods can ban whatever the fuck they want. If they suddenly made it a rule that we could ONLY discuss WW2 there's nothing we can do about it besides complain. And they're not obligated to listen.
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>>6546
>>5693
>2 posts addressing same thought
>still no reason to back it up
>ooooh moralizing is bad

You think it's bad because you feel guilty for the things you have done and the opinions you hold, dumbass.
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>>>/pol/
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>>6874
Actually even Churchill said that it was Jews who took over Russia.
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>>6991
>But there is no free speech on this site, the mods can ban whatever the fuck they want. If they suddenly made it a rule that we could ONLY discuss WW2 there's nothing we can do about it besides complain. And they're not obligated to listen.
If this was any bit true, then this board would be a fucking mess and would not last past the 2003 stage.

Only /b/ mods can do whatever the fuck they want.
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>>5944
>What was good and bad, in your opinion?
Public health campaign, animal rights, Hitler was fond of preserving nature, also getting the economy back on track (through questionable means I admit), patriotism would be some good things.

Bad things would be expansion drift, racial views, the extreme parts of nationalism, persecution of minorities.
You know the drill.
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>>6874
hello? Weimar Germany?
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>>7058
mods are global
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>>6889
>>can discuss anything and post anything that doesn't break US law
Yeah and that right there, right there. You just admit that there is a restriction of free speech on 4chan.
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>>5616
Thing is, that's what Americans did to the loyalists. You got tarred & feathered, if you didn't go back your life was over. This is just what winning wars used to look like. Hitler's problem is he lost and lost hard.
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>>7108
>wants to post child porn
>the same as free speech
????????

You could quite literally say "Child pornographers do nothing wrong" and nothing would happen. There's a difference between discussing the possibility of fires in theatres, and shouting "FIRE" during a movie.
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>>6592
Quiet culling of that could be okay, just don't be a dick and ban people if they're not shitposting.
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>>7089
>mods are global
I hope you aren't this much of a newfag. I really do.
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>>7001
Moralizing isn't bad. It's just not history m
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>>6665
Not everyone was a fervent zealous antisemite at that time.
Even Hitler had jewish friends.
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>>6945
>>7035
>>7085
I'm still not seeing how Germany was being ruined by the Jews. This is your conjecture. Wikipedia articles that barely mention the word "jew" and a picture of communists who were Jewish?

How does this imply that the Jewish people, as a whole, were responsible for Germany's troubles between WW1 and WW2?
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test
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>>7001
Also, I even agreed that Hitler was evil. But why are you saying it here? That's for /pol/. It doesn't belong here. It's not an academic inquiry
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>board is only over an hour old and it's instantly enveloped by /pol/io kekmongerging
Well I KNEW this would happen.

>>2661
One testicle.
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>>6861
>Oh no, his unfiltered discussion is hurting my feelings! What could I call to get people to ban this
>....POLITICS!!!!!!!!

Fuck off.
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>>1033
Wait, /his/ believes in the Holocaust?
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>>7205
you're actually looking for information about the bad things jews do on wikipedia? lol? you will not find a SINGLE bad thing that a jew has done, absolutely everything is dismissed as a 'conspiracy theory' or an "anti-semitic canard"
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>>7168
Nice strawman

I never said anything about CP. What about discussing how to get drugs? There have been threads banned on /b/ for posting information about where to get drugs in certain cities. And raid/dox threads are deleted all the time. What about that ethics in video game journalism shit that got deleted on /v/?

You can not discuss ANYTHING on 4chan. You can discuss 99% of things. That doesn't seem like free speech to me.
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>>6870
>using go back to reddit to disprove my argument
Face it, your standpoint is stupid and contemporary historiography doesn't support it.
>jewish population created communism in russia
As far as I know, the jews themselves never had enough numbers to topple the entirety of the Russian state. So why are you implying that the Russian revolutions were jewish revolutions?
>inb4 communism is jewish ideology
In the late 19th century large parts of the European (and especially Russian) Intelligentsija were Jewish, but many of them really didn't care much about their religion at that time (often choosing to convert and assimilate). It is therefore clear that they had to be overrepresented in the communist leadership compared to the general population, but that proves nothing.
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>>1033
and now the jews are doing the genocide
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>>6687
>You still did not justify his actions.
There is nothing to justify.

What you're doing is ignoring all the atrocities commited throughout the ages, even by the allies, and go "b-but Hitler".
Yes, Hitler did terrible things, but so did everyone else at that time.

You're just singling him out on immoral behavior, while ignoring everyone else who did the same thing.

What do you even want to achieve with this?
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>>7318
>So why are you implying that the Russian revolutions were jewish revolutions?
because the Bolsheviks were 85% jews, you blithering idiot.
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>>6224
underrated post
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>>6945
>>7035
A picture of some people who might be jewish. (I checked a few random names in that pic and most weren't even jewish) and apparently Churchill blamed Jews too. I don't get how that makes jews responsible for the problems in Germany and Russia. This is some pretty impressive mental gymnastics you're jumping through. The problems in Russia had to do with shit living conditions for the lower and middle class. Everyone there disliked being treated as modern day serfs, it wasn't just da joos
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>>7266
Time to use wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Nazi_boycott_of_1933

>>7306
Are you LITERALLY serious right now?
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>>7312
You can discuss drugs all you want. You can talk about times you've used drugs or how you want to. But when you use it to try and get drugs then you're breaking the law and it is distinct from freely discussing drugs.
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>>6874
m8 look at the FSRG Commanders and Leaders section of the article and count how many gentiles are they.
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>>7306
>No information to back my claim up? It's a conspiracy! They're hiding information!
Wow what a reasonable and intelligent board this will be.
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>>7378
Or maybe people were just pointing single mistake in his post and now you're jumping into conclusions
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>Leftist makes a thread discussing Hitler
>people tell their opinion about Hitler
>HOLY FUCK MODS BAN ALL WW2 DISCUSSION BAN ALL POLITICS GET RID OF /pol/ WAAAAAAAAH

This is why you guys ruin everything you touch.
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>>6552
I agree. The problem is, especially on an anonymous board, people like to throw tantrums and cry censorship when people tell them they're wrong.
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>>7341
>genocide
If that's a genocide they're doing a lousy job at it mate.
You won't find better baby factories outside Palestine.
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>>7108
>You just admit that there is a restriction of free speech on 4chan.
There is a restriction on free speech everywhere in the entire world. 4chan was never the exception. I don't understand where the heck you got the idea that you could say anything you want, uncensored, on this site. You never could.
There ARE rules, and if you weren't obviously such a newfag from /pol/ or /b/ you'd probably have read them. It's even in the sticky
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

Denying the Holocaust or saying that Hitler did "nothing" wrong (always referring to the Holocaust) is racism, plain and simple. It's something that can get you imprisoned and ostracized in any modern day country. It doesn't belong on this board, or anywhere else. It's simply detrimental to any sort of civilized discussion.
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>>7306
Maybe it's dismissed as a conspiracy theory because it actually is an implausible hypothesis, not backed up by facts and is usually pushed by people to achieve a certain agenda?
>inb4 RIDF
1) I'm christian
2) I'd consider myself an anti-Zionist, and don't believe that the jewish nation has any basis in reality and that the world would be a better place if Isreal didn't exist
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>>7495
Jews are not a race you ignoramus
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>>7495
>Denying the Holocaust or saying that Hitler did "nothing" wrong (always referring to the Holocaust) is racism, plain and simple. It's something that can get you imprisoned and ostracized in any modern day country. It doesn't belong on this board, or anywhere else. It's simply detrimental to any sort of civilized discussion.
Jesus christ dude. I even agree with you but why did you say it like that? Fucking why?
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>>7495
>Denying the Holocaust or saying that Hitler did "nothing" wrong (always referring to the Holocaust) is racism, plain and simple. It's something that can get you imprisoned and ostracized in any modern day country. It doesn't belong on this board, or anywhere else. It's simply detrimental to any sort of civilized discussion.
Now YOU'RE being a faggot, because that is something free speech is enshrined to protect.

The ostracision and outright illegality of questioning the holocaust narrative in Europe is a fucking calamity, and detrimental to historical discussion. Nothing else is protected like that.

Saying "Let's all kill jews, go to 1488 Adolf Avenue at 3 today" is planning to commit murder. "I don't think 6 million jews died in the holocaust" is not, and therefor free speech, and if there was any justice in the world would be legal in the shitholes it is banned in.
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>>7531
how can you be so ignorant in the current year?
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>>7444
I'm jumping to conclusions? I didn't jump to any conclusions. What i said is 100% fact and you can't point out anywhere that I happened to 'jump to conclusions'. Russians in that time period didn't like being treated like shit. That's a fact. Even if you could prove that every single leader of the Communist party was Jewish, it would mean nothing as the people wanted there to be a revolution. It's not like the communist uprising was forced onto Russians. Most wanted it.
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>>7306
If the mods are serious about making sure this board isn't /pol/ with dates they should remove this post.

I reported it, I don't give a fuck if I get banned. I've been waiting for /his/ for 4 years, I want it done right.
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>>7495
The US isn't a modern day country?
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>>7592
You have the right to say it, but if you make a claim like that that goes against academic consensus, you are expected to prove it.
Shit like
>>6945
Proves nothing
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>>7410
Boycotting a regime that is racist to you is on the same level as civil war? What the fuck. Waaaay before the holocaust Jews were being treated like shit in Nazi germany. If I was Jewish I'd boycott and be pissed too, and you probably would too.
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>>7617
you want to censor me rather than prove me wrong? pathetic
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>>7495
>racism
>racism
>RACISM

Fuck off, you are changing the rules now. I get away with saying "nigger" on /v/, /a/, /jp/, /x/, /sp/, /pol/, /g/, the list goes on...

>Denying the Holocaust or saying that Hitler did "nothing" wrong (always referring to the Holocaust) is racism
No its not you fucking idiot, how is denying it racist?

>It's something that can get you imprisoned and ostracized in any modern day country
Except in America

>It doesn't belong on this board, or anywhere else. It's simply detrimental to any sort of civilized discussion.
Or you can fuck off for being the obvious liberal leftist you are!
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>>7364
>Bolsheviks 85% jews
I'd like to see a source for that. Do you also have that number for social-democrats, social-revolutionaries and the mensheviks?
And can you put it in relation to the amount of jews in the general population and the social strata that made up the political elite after the february revolution?
Big claims require big evidence, you've yet to deliver.
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>>7656
You said it should be banned. I'm a literal fascist and think that's unacceptable.

The truth can stand on its own legs and does not need a law to protect it.
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>>7678
>there's a jewish conspiracy to hide information about jewish conspiracies
>I have no proof of this, but that's my proof, there is no proof?

>>>/pol/
>>>/x/
>>>/stormfront/
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>>7617
No, fuck you asshole. I have waited for this board for 10 fucking years and to have you come and dare say to remove, delete, and ban people for saying something that offends you is the biggest disgrace in all of chan culture. You need to leave if you find this place to be as "toxic" and "problematic" if you hate it.
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>>7731
That wasn't even me man. He has a point in that genocide denial almost always has no basis in reality and therefore is not a topic of civil discourse which we can attempt on this board, but I don't it should be banned.
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>>7718
i already did
>>6945
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>>7495
>It's something that can get you imprisoned and ostracized in any modern day country
I hate /pol/ with a burning passion but you understand why it's fucked up to imprison a person because of their opinion, right?

You know that's what fucking Hitler did, right?
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>>7306
You posted a Wikipedia article to back your claim, and then when told it didn't actually support your claim, you countered that Wikipedia is an unreliable source.

Maybe reading this will get you to parse how idiotic that is.
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>>7798
That's a not a fucking source and if you google half of those names most aren't even Jews, and the ones that are, are simply listed as 'believed to be' with no evidence or anything of that kind.
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>>7797
We could post countless infographs with source from /pol/ to argue against the holocaust, or holodomor, or anything like that. But people who DO academically argue against the holocaust get b& and v& in Europe.
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>>7844
no, i posted a wikipedia article because your retarded self didnt even know about the german revolution of 1918.

try reading a book, nigger.
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>>7798
Oh, I see how it is now.

Pretty well constructed bait, all things considered.
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>>7844
>every post is one guy
you have no argument
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>>7793
>You need to leave if you find this place to be as "toxic" and "problematic" if you hate it.
Don't throw your shitty tumblr buzzwords at me you unbelievable niggerfaggot. I will not accept "it's just a jewish conspiracy" as factual historical evidence. That is LITERALLY /pol/ with dates.

He is literally dismissing the lack of jewish involvement with the bolshevik movement because of DA JOOOOOOOOS.

It's not history, it's /pol/.
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>>7887
So do it. Except for the holomodor. Just Holocaust stuff.
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>Wikipedia is not a source
WIKIPEDIA 101:
Just scroll to the bottom, copy paste the relevant sources posted there and you have legitimately proven your point and provided evidence that supports your claim

Nobody is gonna check it anyway
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>>7495
No one is saying to have 100% free speech. Banning historical discussions on a history board is fucking retarded. If you want to have 1 million unwritten rules about what history is "allowed", go to Reddit or any other history website. I'm not even saying that to be a dick; there's other websites that are exactly what you want and would have discussions that you seek.
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>>7977
I don't have any and I'm not arguing about the holocaust, I'm just arguing for the right to debate the holocaust as we would be able to debate anything else, a privilege denied to Germans and others.
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>>7947
Them not having a source tied to every post is NOT an excuse to ban things you do not like. This is not /pol/ because of one thread, Hitler and the NATSOC party is /his/ just a well since its WW2.

I've been waiting for a place to discuss this shit and you are not taking it away because you want a Leddit hugbox.
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>>7947
Except he posted a list of bolshevik jews
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Capped, this is some good shit for cringe threads.
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>mfw /his/ believes the holocaust
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>>8254
Because /his/ is actually educated lmao
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>>5338
>Its called free speech

Ah yes, do remind me of the respect the Third Reich gave to free speech. Fascists don't give one damn about free expression unless they're not winning.

No one wants to argue with people who fundamentally oppose free speech in their political philosophy. Now fuck off.
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>>8634
>implying
kek these dumb niggers didnt even know about the german revolution of 1918
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