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New MTSP (Jin) Thread (One Last Speculation Before Comiket 89)
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Let's continue with our favourite Shota Harem turned family NTR discussion thread !
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in the end, what we will get from C89 ?
- a 50 pages DOUJINSHI that will deepen the MANGA story arc ?
- a 50 pages ILLUSTRATION BOOK depicting scenes from the NOVEL ?
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So still no updates? If this illustration boku contains text, when will it be translated? I wish shakuganexa would do that Rider chapter from C88.

>>4138489
> A 50 pages ILLUSTRATION BOOK depicting scenes from the NOVEL.
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>>4138557
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Somebody said the sample has out ! BUT THAT IS AN FAKE PIC!!! shithole!
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>>4138489
>- a 50 pages ILLUSTRATION BOOK depicting scenes from the NOVEL ?
Couldn't be more obvious.
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Until his work is actually released, no one will know for sure what we will get from MTSP
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>>4138787
I'm waiting for his RPGMAKER game. That's like 8 years in the making, maybe even longer in development than FF15 considering he was planning it before Sakiko san. The hentai FF15.
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気に入らない。mtspの奴作業する態度はマジで気に入らない。あいつ、今度もゲ-ムしたせいで、また遅れるかも。くそやろ
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>>4138801
決してより遅くベター!
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>>4138480
MTSP thread #12

Keep it numbered OP
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>>4138559
Dumb question, is that page from a released doujin or not?
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>>4138791
No. He will never come close to something like Rondo Duo.
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>>4138835
Nvm, found it
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>>4138845
And? His game will probably be hotter anyway.
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>>4138850
I doubt it. Most RPG Maker games aren't that good. And Jin is very lazy. The fact that he worked for 8 years on it just means he procrastinated that long. More development time doesn't equal a better game (see Duke Nukem Forever).

Also: It being hotter is just your personal anticipation. People disgusted by NTR probably won't like it at all.
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>>4138854
He doesn't care. At least it isn't loli. Also, he's never a Vanilla artist. In fact, NTR is the evolution of Vanilla since it allows the reader to imagine taking an Sexy girl and vent their angry on their broken relationships. The main problem with NTR is that the netoris are as ugly as hell. At least, in MTSP's Tachibana, the guys look OK.

While people say Jin is lazy, he's actually on par with the amount of work he has produced with many artists working for magazines today. He's no Shikishiro or Shido, but he is like Noraneko Konbou.
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This is how you do an NTR. Both the love interest and the netori are good looking.
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>>4138872
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/886063/9b5143d7af/
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>>4138867
Toshaka and Sakiko fat bastards are not ugly fatsos either; instead they look strong as bulls.
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>>4138867
>At least it isn't Loli.

I'll take Vanilla Loli over stupid NTR any day.

Also, you confuse Netorare and Netori.
Kizashi or this:
>http://exhentai.org/g/119658/1dec1c2788/
is a perfect Netori, while everything MTSP does is classic Netorare where you're supposed to feel bad for the cucked guy:
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Still waiting for the upload of the parody of Infinite Stratos by Ryu-Seki-Do - "Desire Purge"
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>>4138876
They are fatsos and ugly. Being gifted with good looks and great physique with a brown skin, I hate to see most NTR manga have portray coloured guys like BBM. Imagine Tachibanas being fucked by big black guys that look like pigs. No wonder Tachibana-san is my favourite hentai manga.

>>4138882
Please, hentai is about sex scenes and fapping, not story.
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Anytime now.

MTSP is releasing the previews soon.
連絡待機中です / ,' 3 `ヽーっ
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mtsp blog

2015年12月25日(金)10:43
連絡待機中です / ,' 3 `ヽーっ
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>>4138874
It was just another generic ntr, damn, is that hard to make a decent netorare for Japan authors?
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>>4138990
NTR requires the characters to be braindamaged to work in the first place, so yes.
Try Akino Sora's "Let Your Smile Bloom" series for something a bit different. The first chapter is on nhentai / Hitomi, 2 and 3 can be found at the coffeeshop. Looks like chapter 4 will be the last one. It might have a good ending.
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>>4139018
That's because it's Akino motherfucking Sora.
I meant new, less known artists.
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>>4139464
Meet Shido. Satomi x Satona is quite a well made story considering he is an NTR artist.
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>>4139502
MC is a guy that saves the girl in the end... Only for the girl to cheat on him in the end.

In the sequels, he consented to her cheating and pretends he doesn't know it. He knew that the girl is addicted to sex and accepted it, protecting in the shadows like calling yakuzas to rape the idols who blackmailed her girlfriend. But it looks like he finally met his match (Satona is addicted to the guys huge dick and not contended with the Miss dick anymore) and his friend (Satona's manager) can't do anything about it. Whenever Satona is not around, MC rapes his sister. (Satomi) so brutally that it hurts her and she finds having AV sex better. She also loves MC.
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The omake will be cool, but after seeing the cover I'm way more excited about the third part of Onigashima.
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>>4139512
Onigashima? Mixed Real is better.
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>>4139506
>...(Satomi) so brutally that it hurts her and she finds having AV sex better.

Satomi didn't do any AV sex after they were saved. Look at their beauty marks. All of that was Satona.
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>>4139519
Check volume 3. shakuganexa said it himself. Her AV name is Rina Katagiri
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>>4139524
They both have the same beauty mark. That's why MC didn't noticed when they first switched.
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>>4139526
No. Satona has two, Satomi only has one. One of the birth marks is at the same place, but Satomi has an additional one at her chin.

All of the AV is Satona
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>>4139527
Damn this is so confusing. Lustful Berry had a timeline crisis but this has identity crisis. I thought shakuganexa was right since Satomi was planning something at the end of the second chapter (like participant in more brutal AVs). So fucking confusing. Don't tell me Satona is a masochist!? Why did she change her AV name to Haruka then Rin, doesn't make sense.

Does anyone know if this is Kaede or the other girlfriend of Satsuki? Both of them have small breasts.
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>>4139541
>Why did she change her AV name to Haruka then Rin, doesn't make sense.

Miito Shiido is horrible at telling coherent stories, that's all there is to it.
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>>4139527
Sorry, I made a msitake here. The text should be:

>Satomi has two, Satona only has one. One of the birth marks is at the same place, but Satomi has an additional one at her chin.
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Im still waiting for some previews =(
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The sample has been out!
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http://karen.saiin.net/~mitosupa/nv2sample/
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Base on the novel , and some simples are in the blog's update.
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OMG YESS!!!!!!
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>>4140008

http://exhentai.org/g/886749/955ca8d327/

What is happening here? i don't understand
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>>4140057

That's the sence of novel.
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This gonna be good~
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>>4138559
MTSP really needs to do more Rider doujinshi with the fat man.
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>>4140008
Damn. That's pretty hot.
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>>4140004
What the fuck is this? (My motivation and expectation, please come back). This is a waste of pages and even a waste of money. This fucking disappointing. I thought 50 like new scenes, not like a variations of the scenes in the novel. This is a joke right? Why would I even bother buying this. Five stars again, just wow.

The dialogue in the new scenes is probably from the novel. People actually think this is good. I can wait but this is just taking advantage. Is Jin really that lazy? Hey, at least we are going to see a pregnant Kyouka or a proper ending right? I'm not even going to bother caring.

This ruins my week, I can't believe people are actually excited about this.
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>>4140128
I don't think the two new group scenes is enough for me or anyone.
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>>4140004
That cover is hot but that's about it.
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Every comiket, I wait and hope for a conclusion to the Tohsaka series. Every comiket, I am let down. But this looks like a new low.
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>>4140128
Jin isn't lazy. You guys keep asking for more Tachibana, but he already said the damn story is over. What's he supposed to do? What he should concentrate on is Tohsaka-ke, but there are assholes who want more Tachibana, which is already a finished story ffs.
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>>4138559

Seriously, MTSP should just do a Type Moon Heroines x Fat Man Fuck Tour (TYPE-MOON ヒロインズxデブ金持ちおっさん乱交セックスツアー).
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>>4140008
Does he fuck her from behind here or what?
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>>4140141
I'm disappointed because I expected like most of it will be new scenes, not stupid variations with stupid text slapped into it. I thought this omake book contains mostly new scenes from the novel.

Also Tachibana-san isn't over. It's like Lustful Berry, the author will keep going back to it. It will only end when Jin says it's over. He might be doing chapters solely focused on the daughters in the future.

Also Tohsaka ke is the one that should be over. Tachibana is better than it.
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>>4140149
>Tohsaka-ke should be over
The fat man hasn't even had extended sex scenes with almost every other Type-Moon heroine out there, It has a shitload of material it has to cover, especially with Fate Grand Order out. We even had some Bazett and Caren teasers.
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>>4140151
Sakura, Rider and Illyasviel should be the next victims of the Fatman. Sakura particularly since she is so well developed unlike the sister. He should end Tohsaka ke and start Sakura ke.
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>TYPE-MOON ヒロインズxデブ金持ちおっさん乱交セックスツアー
Someone needs to tweet this to MTSP or something.
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>>4140154
>wanting Sakura
Sakura's already been targeted by Shinji and a whole town of men in canon. Bazett, Caren, Jeanne, Nero (she'd probably enjoy it), Tamamo, Scathach, Ayako, Medea, even Irisviel and Maaya. Heck, throw in KnK, Tsuki, MB in the mix.
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Poll!

http://strawpoll.me/6366504
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>>4140186

You don't even have an "other" or "I don't care about any of those" option.

It's hilarious how people are disappointed when this was to be expected the entire time. Jin is an extrememy lazy fuck.
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>>4140194
I'll be scanning Raita instead of this. Is Jin even allowed to use these drawings since France Shion published them? Copyrights, anyone?

I still buy it to support him. Every artist had a bad book every now and then.
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>>4140128

He already told us it'd be 50+ scenes from the novel. Seems like all the novel stuff is getting artwork.
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>>4140199
I expected most of it to be new content and not including drawings from the novel and stupid variations. I'm felt betrayed than excited at this point.
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in jin master really know how to enjoy the situations they are in, the end is already delivered, people ask more Tachibana, the novel and an alternative history, and with the bonus of images of the to take advantage of the earlier stories as reference points until the book becomes easier to entender.e if tachibana and a goose that lays golden eggs would be something that would not be so easy after spending if you want gaidens can do more and more like the three musketeers gaidens being arrested, so one story with daughters tachibanas or even a solo story with yuki-kun
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>>4140186
Even with the recycled content, people are actually excited for this? God, I think Jin noticed and he's taking advantage of it.

So much anger, I'm turning to the dark side!!!
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My new years resolution would be to finish the novel within 2 weeks. Then maybe spend some time retranslating the previous chapters (Since I wasn't as proficient back then in translating).
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Shameful Display.
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>>4140128
>I thought 50 like new scenes, not like a variations of the scenes in the novel.
It was announced months ago as an omake for the novel, why exactly were you expecting anything different from an omake for the novel?
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Disappointed but better than C88
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>>4140286
Yes, 50 drawings for scenes from the novel. Not recycle drawings that are already in the fucking novel. This is just lazy, why the fuck are people hyping about this? As if you're gonna see anyone pregnant since Kyouka isn't even pregnant in the end of the novel, not pregnant enough for Yuu or her daughters to notice her baby bump.

Yuika's and Koharu's sex scenes deserve better, particularly Yuika since she apparently has the hottest sex scenes in the novel.
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>>4140290
No, the rider chapter easy beats this. It doesn't even have a dialogue. The text you see will probably be from the novel, Yuu's fucking thoughts.
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>>4140008
Also is this the actual fucking pages? Why aren't the drawings as big as the page? Don't fucking tell me he actually removed pages meant to be in the novel so he can release them as a bonus!? Fucking lazy ass!
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>>4140294
50 more pages isn't an omake, its a full fledged chapter.

Since it said omake from the first announcement any anon with little brains/experience expected 20 new pages + old pages with variations.
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>>4140317
Your point is? The novel has enough sex scenes, positions to cover all 50+ pages. Also how would an 50 page omake be a chapter when it doesn't even have a dialogue.

I thought we are getting 5 scenes per sex scenes, not fucking variations. Have you read the novel? Even the first half can be spread over 50 pages.

This is the most disappointing C89 work. Hopefully, XRATION will be enough to keep me happy until the C90.
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>>4140334
For example:

Yuika and the guy sex scene:
1.Yuika giving a blowjob
2.Yuika giving a breast job
3. Guy fucking Yuika while slapping her ass
4.Yuika falling unconscious
5.Guy "playing" with Yuika while she's unconscious
6.Yuika's appearance after her rough time with the guy

I could go on.
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>>4140342
>>4140342
Koharu:
1. Guy massaging Koharu's breasts
2. Three panel scene where the guy remove Koharu's robe, bra and panty.
3. Guy putting oil over Koharu's naked body or the waitress playing with Koharu's body
4. Guy brute fucking Koharu (and added dialogue of her moaning for Yuu).
5. Waitress playing with Yuu.
6. Koharu's climax scene.

Note this is just my list.
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>>4140355
Kyouka:
1 and 2. Any scenes from Kyouka's beach date like her losing her bra or giving the guy a hand job.
3. Guy groping and trying to kiss Kyouka.
4,5,6 and 7. The entire sex scene of Kyouka.
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There are so many scenes to draw...looks like we'll be forever imagining it instead of seeing it. Is it really my fault that I expected too much?
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>>4140334
Dude shut up with your omake ridiculous standards.
Cross your fingers and look the credits page for new volume announcement then.
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>>4140342
She didn't BJ him

>>4140355
He moves her clothes to the side, no removal.

>>4140361
Kyouka eating the condoms content was my Christmas wish
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>>4140421
Yuika giving a blowjob with her defiant and resisting look would be cool though. I agree with you with Kyouka (Sadly, we may never see it. Koharu ended up naked anyway during her sex scenes.

We also won't get the yuri scene between Yuika and Kyouka.
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>>4140432
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>>4140437
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It's just like marvel .2 kind of univers. Relax take it as normal comic .real finish had been end In the comic
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>>4140439
I see panties and bra.

There is a condom fully loaded on right side.
Are we sure Koharu took semen inside?
Image suggests she had enough strenght of will to reject nakadashi, as unlikely as it sounds.
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I really think it's funny to see the disappointment of people who don't get more NTR sex illustrations they so desperately crave for.

Get over it, Jin will never finish this story and just keep milking it with cheap content like this.
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>>4140477
I can't wait to modify shakuganexa's translation and make it like they went to Okina's nude beach.
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Rather than to sell fate this c89. Stop drawing the tachibana-san series .Leave the best in the memory
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>>4140497
Shut up. Tachibana-san, no matter how much he milks it will forever be remembered in hentai history as the best original circle hentai series ever.
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>>4140500
That's just your delusion. There's just as many people or even more who hate it than like it.

Raita's Mahou Shojo series has a big fan base and not nearly as many people who dislike it.
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>>4140506
Fool.
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>>4140500
Do u think thats will be better? Keepping on draw this series , the ruins is more faster to come.If i can talk to JIN ,must stop him to drawing this.

Ithink its time to creat a new original ones.
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>>4140506
Jin only needs to draw a page hinting the daughters having sex behind their mother's back and tens of thousands of people who hate the series will turn into a new leaf. Jin has the ability to do that. He keeps people guessing. In fact, he already implied he is working at a new Tachibana chapter, although bit by bit. Check out his last line in his blog.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tachibana-san will get visual novel soon.
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>>4140520
We have translation of last blog entry?
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>>4140520
>Jin only needs to draw a page hinting the daughters having sex behind their mother's back and tens of thousands of people who hate the series will turn into a new leaf.

No. The only way to make people who hate it give it a chance again would be to show how the rapists get arrested and them having sex with Yuu again.
More sex scenes with the NTR guys fucking the daughters won't change anything.
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>>4140524
Ajajajaja
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>>4140525
>>4140511
The epitome of NTR fags. No arguments, just ad hominems. Just like you can never give counter arguments on the galleries and just downvote tem to death instead.
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>>4140527
Lmao
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>>4140524
NTR? I think a lot of people can't stand the fact it it is coloured people fucking the Tachibanas.

Also Jin actually warned people that Tachibana-san will be like Sakiko san but will have a better set up leading to NTR. It becoming NTR isn't really a surprise. Dream on vanilafags, Jin never betrayed anyone. Tachibana-san wasn't vanilla to begin with, the NTR is pretty much expected.
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>>4140494
Is that Yuu's imagination?
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>>4140532
Probably.
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>>4140533
The volleyball is bigger than Koharus breast.
Recton?
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>>4140535
Volleyball? I thought that was a watermelon.
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For what's worth, I'm glad his first line was apologizing for no after scenes material this time.

It show he knows clearly whar the fans want.
His post comiket entry might be him promising to answers our prayers I'll keep myself positive.

X-ration is gonna keep my balls pretty dry for a whole month in the meantime.
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>>4140846
Really?
The girls are hot but the overly ugly fat guy and the skinny oldman are beyond ridiculous.

And for NTR standards, the ntr is very weak, girls got drugged and raped and impregnated?

The RO with the female knight made more sense and the guy ntred looked like something you say it's worth stealing, on Onigashima it's just a fucking brat that is almost a toddler.

In my opinion, both are disapointing, Takao ntr doujin is better.
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>>4140885
What Takao? Are you talking about Aiue Oka? His art is very similar to Xration.
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>>4140524
>and them having sex with Yuu again.

Did people actually enjoy this?
His scenes were boring to be honest families
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>>4140057
is this really mtsp? looks different
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>>4140885
Xration has juicy body proportions.

And he follows trough until the females can't even breathe without wanting their abusers deep inside.

I always found him pretty hot to read.
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Requesting clarification; where does the manga supplement fit in (the random group sex one), in regards to the story timeline?

Was it:
1 - 2 - Sup - 3 - 4? Or 1 - 2 - 3 - Sup - 4?

And what are the differences between the manga and novel aside from more sex?

From what I recall reading, Manga Kyouka straight-up remained the only one still having sex until they got the police involved. Her daughters didn't. However, none of them ever got intimate beyond a blowjob with Yuu afterwards.

Novel Kyouka never got the police involved, and she and her daughters all end up slowly falling for their rapists. Yuu is forgotten, and none of them seem to care, turning this from NTR to more of just a general closet slut story.

Is this about right? Is there anything else I'm missing? And which translation is the most accurate? I recall that there were about 2-3 different ones; with dialogue changing between them changing the meaning and reasons for some of their actions. [spoiler]I admit I only got into the storyline recently; having been a fan of Jin/MTSP's other works before diving into the Tachibana series.[/spoiler]
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>>4141029
HIs females are hot but I hate the amount of panels his ugly as fuck males get.
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>>4140057
Jin took the illustration of the novels an adds text, moves the hands or faces a bit per 5-6 pages and then repeat.

>>4140891
>His art is very similar to Xration.
Isn't. X'Ration is plump type, Aiue Ouka is more fit type.
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>>4141047
This doesn't remind you of Xration?
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>>4141052
Even has shotas.
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newfag here, how do I get into MTSP?
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>>4141140
Search MTSP sakiko on panda
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>>4141038
Manga: only the mother did blowjobs, the daughters did nothing with him again.

Novel: the mother and daugther recognized the guys are better partners in bed but they still do it with Yuu.
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Jin ass game has improved.
I can spot good stuff even on this small prev.
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>>4141187
It was his weak point.
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>>4141195
That's why he said it has improved.
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Can't wait till the novel gets translated
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This is all basically softcore compared to the original. Still great artwork, just not as great as it could be based on his earlier work.
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I agree
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>>4140342
>5.Guy "playing" with Yuika while she's unconscious
Never happened. He got really scared and tried to wake her up.
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>>4140524
>The only way to make people who hate it give it a chance again would be to show how the rapists get arrested and them having sex with Yuu again.
And I'd hate it if he did beta porn.
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>>4141226
She woke up on her own.
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>>4141327
He was playing her breasts as far as I heard.
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Okay, I'm still a bit slow to all the stuff that has been going on, lemme see if I'm correct.

First, these three chicks fall for this shota.
Then, they get drugged and fucked at this hotel by these guys who are shooting an AV.
Then... something happens, and the mother fucks them again.
Then the AV guys get caught doing... something, and go to jail.

When does the novel come out? There was an illustration book before as well, right? What happens in those?
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>>4141473
>Then the AV guys get caught doing... something, and go to jail.
No one go to jail anon.
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>>4141473
It's mostly as you said. There's two different things: manga and novel, and they vary fairly significantly in tone and plot (particularly plot in the latter parts).

Manga:
- 3 chicks fuck with shota; Yuika implies he's her first. They decide that whomever amongs them first gets preggers will be his legal wife.
- drugged and fucked at beach hotel, first in the massage room then over at the guys' place. All 3 possibly impregnated. All of it is taped.
- Kyouka agrees to see Curly afterwards in exchange for the guys leaving the daughters alone
- none of the girls have penetrative sex with shota again (probably due to trauma).
- some time later Kyouka continues to see Curly at a hotel, having contacted the police, though amazingly for manga, she keeps her wits about her at the very end.
- even later we find that all 3 are preggers and looking for an abortion clinic. Afterwards shota goes to video store and may or may not come across the video of the girls' night at the beach. The guys the video store owner refers to as being arrested may be the rapers.

Novel:
Overall similar with some differences:
- Yuika's far more into masochism and may have done anal with other guys before shota scene
- Girls have sex with shota once at the beach before he falls asleep as in the manga. Here they're already complaining about his tiny dick.
- The girls aren't fucked together but blackmailed individually.
- All 3 girls continue to fuck the guys after returning from their summer break and are slowly broken.
- Yuika continues to fuck shota and may or may not have actively ignored the fact that the contraceptive pill the guys were giving Koharu and Kyouka were placebos.
- Eventually the guys arrange for all 3 girls to have group sex together.
- Kyouka's pregnant in the epilogue but hasn't aborted and has fallen pretty far.
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>>4141518
This is what i understand until now too.

The novel don't looks like a Jin work because the story is from other author. He only is responsible for art in the novel version.

The novel is much more like a classic NTR. Even the shota is a total asshole. And things are much less forced. The girls don't feel that bad.
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>>4141518
The daughters were pregnant and having dates with the other guys while Yuu is visiting his grandpa in the hospital.
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>>4140223
Thanks for the hard work!
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>>4141526
Maybe Kyouka just discovered she was pregnant when curly told him her body has changed. If they are having weekly sex with the guys, the daughters are probably pregnant and haven't realize it yet.
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>>4141530
Since Kyouka says it Yuu, we can imply she and the daughters are still having sex with him.
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>>4141532
The girls also enjoyed having sex particularly Koharu. She was he most proactive out of all of them and she was already soaking wet before the the group sex even began. I hope Jin will include the full version of this page in the omake book, I want to see Yuika's moaning face.
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Someone said on last page that they were captured but nothing was shown about it.
It's a bit of a mystery.
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>>4141525
Of course not. Everything plot related on novel came from Jin.
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I'm new to Jins work and just finished reading the Tachibana manga, are there any links to the novel? I can't find it anywhere.
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>>4141518
It's really a totally different story. NTR fags are delusional thinking they tell the same story and the Novel is a continuation of the Manga.
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>>4141615
Dream in vanillafags. Jin is trolling you again.
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>>4141569
He's not the one who write it. For the novel, you can call him original creator.
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>>4141677
Anon all the 'new' plot and twists came from him, just not the words. This is old news already.
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>>4141663
He massively trolled you as well with his excellent C89 contribution. I don't even care how or even if this ends anymore.
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>>4141052
No, read more of his works. If you can fakku do it, if you're poorfag just Google them.

And most of Takao doujins are shotacon, C89 has at least 15 shotacon Takao doujin listed.
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I wonder if the infamous matome ban police scene was actually an abortion clinic.
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n-no
my body isnt ready
please

s-stop! STOP!!
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>>4141532

that scene seemed like she was in denial over who the father really was. It was most likely curly's child more than Yuu.
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>>4142190
Of course it's more likely, just not for certain.
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>>4142190
Its obvious, they are practically lovers in that scene. She even admits it.
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>>4142193
What she literally says is 'fearing to become like those girls in the future', at least according to the Chinese group.
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>>4142200
Like Yuika and Koharu? I doubt the girls still have sex with you. Yuika will be too scared to show Yuu her body after what the guy done to her (Her body is the one that suffered the most). I mean the novel is clear that she already has sagging breasts and her pussy being worn out. She may do blowjob but not sex. Koharu doesn't even care about him anymore. She's probably angry at him for not saving her from being raped and gave up to pleasure. She's enjoying it a lot with her partner. She may become horn at times but I doubt she will pick Yuu's dick over a large dildo or meet up with her partner. As for Kyouka, I don't think she to will have sex with you again. Her reason is probably that she doesn't want to stain Yuu anymore and hurt him.
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>>4142236
But the novel clearly says the three of them still have sex with Yuu. It says right on the epilogue.

The difference is the sisters probably don't think of him while with others, so their guilt is almost nonexistent.

Kyouka feels a strong mix of pleasure and guilt that's driving her crazy.
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people also have to realize the chinese added stuff in that wasn't in the original script as well.

But the novel was clear the girls gave in to the rapist even the mom starts to enjoy cucking the idiot shota.
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But the Chinese added netorare stuff, right? At least this thread said so.
Makes no sense they would add 'the girls still have sex with yuu' then.
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>>4142246

yeah they added more to the ntr side and how anyone can read it through google translate is beyond me.
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>>4142247
I heard they added some weird-ass Oedipus complex for Curly with Kyouka.
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>>4142240
In the Japanese script it doesn't anything about them having sex with Yuu. I know the guy ask Koharu if she's still playing with Yuu (Her "toy") and her answer is no. I think that's all what we need to know. It's Yuika that's feels the guilt the most, read her solo sex scene, it's Koharu that doesn't care about him anymore. >>4142250
The scans for this are really bad. Anyone wiling to scan higher quality ones? They have so much contrast.
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>>4142250
What oedipus complex? Never notice it reading the barely readable translation.
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>>4142236
>She's probably angry at him for not saving her from being raped a
Bullshit, how the hell would he know if she stays silent, so she just not only become a slut, she became a bitch as well.
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>>4142261

When curly(rapist) is banging a pregnant kyouka she teases him about having a Oedipus complex.

And yeah I dont remember anymore sex scenes with yuu in the raw version of the novel. Mostly just the rapists mentioning him to the girls with yuika and the mom feeling guilty but eventually they accept the rapist and the mom even brings hers home on the regular while yuu is visiting his sick grandfather.
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>>4142267
She was moaning during her rape. Remember that she doesn't know that Yuu was drugged with sleeping pills.
Doesn't her look here >>4140439 looks depressed? But she was quite pleased because she enjoyed it especially because of the aphrodisiac drugs (Same with Yuika and Kyouka).
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>>4142267

Yeah the japanese raw doesn't mention Yuu having sex with the girls and one of the girls outright admits they no longer have sex with him.

anyone mind summing up what the chinese fanfic'd in? This is what makes the novels so confusing for me as I can no longer tell what got added in.
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>>4142277

Wasn't that before her fall though? In her hotel scene she was really into it with her guy. Even the mom was shocked.
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>>4142267
Koharu is pure love. I don't think that hateful comment is true.
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>>4142283
She's a pure retard, that's all.
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>>4142284
She's just supersensitive and the guy was inhumanly thick and viilent so the penetration pain broke her (hence the depressed facell later)
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>>4142273
Kyouka never said anything like that in the novel.
>>4142280
Koharu never really had any feelings for Yuu. In fact, she's the most secretive out of the three. All we know is that she knew her sister and mom were having sex with the Yuu and was tempted to try it because of that and she like ice cream. She is intelligent or we can imply since she help Yuu study, Loves horror films but not er motivation for going after Yuu other than being jealous. Since she fights with Yuika over stupid things, she probabyl saw Yuu as a toy to wrestle with Yuika for fun. She never took Yuu seriously especially due to her naiveness.
I really think she hated Yuu after him not doing anything to help her. He was right beside her while she's being raped and he didn't do anything. She probably felt Yuu took advantage of her and rather than being taken advantage by the guy again like what Yuu did, she probably decided to give in to pleasure and enjoy having sex with the guy.
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>>4141525
No. Jin is responsible for art and story in the novel. Uehara Ryou is the writer.
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>>4142283
No, she is retard, you're just whiteknight her being a bitch.
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>>4142288
>I really think she hated Yuu after him not doing anything to help her. He was right beside her while she's being raped and he didn't do anything. She probably felt Yuu took advantage of her and rather than being taken advantage by the guy again like what Yuu did, she probably decided to give in to pleasure and enjoy having sex with the guy.
He was KO from the pills, what did she expect?
Like holy shit, is the novel writing this bad?
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>>4142284
She's a pure and hionest girl, not a retard.
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>>4142309
She doesn't know about that. She thought he was simply sleeping. One good thing about the novel is it goes into detail on what the girls are thinking while the guys are fucking them.
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>>4142311
She is an honest and pure retard bitch.
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>>4142314
Especially from seeing the waitress "play" with Yuu as if mocking her.
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>>4142315
Lmao so much butthurt.
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>>4142314
>She doesn't know about that. She thought he was simply sleeping.
>>4142318
Doesn't it makes it more obvious he was ko? She can't be this stupid in the novel.

>>4142314
>One good thing about the novel is it goes into detail on what the girls are thinking while the guys are fucking them.
That won't help to side with her because it seems her logic is quite idiotic.

>he is sleeping
>I'm drugged
>I'm being raped
>therefore it's his fault
>why it seems he doesn't seem to know we were raped?
She was just justfying becoming a slut by blaming him just like her mother was in denial about her pregnancy.

It's escapism.
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>>4142319
>calling bitch a bitch is butthurt
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>>4142315
You forgot that she was still in drugs during the massage and she receive even more drugs during the massage session. No wonder she was mind broken from pleasure after the brute is down fucking her.

>>4142321
She doesn't know she was drugged idiot. She thought she was still suffering from the effects from last night.

Just read the first half of the novel. Remember Yuika was playing with Yuu's dick? Remember that scene? All i can say is she was really hurt by that.
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>>4142326
Yuika woke him up simply by licking his dick. Koharu was screaming and moaning for him yet he didn't woke up. Her face after the sex shows everything. She realize Yuu never gave a damn about her and took advantage of her.
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>>4142327
I think Yuu also came.
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>>4142327
>doesn't wakes up
>She realize Yuu never gave a damn about her and took advantage of her.
fuck logic
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>all this victim blaming
One think is Koharu blaming the kid for thinking he didn't care. I can somehow overlook that due to her ignorance.

Another one, is anons blaming the kid as well, and that's stupid.
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>>4142331
Koharu really breaks down during her sex scene.It's really shocking to see her being a pure and innocent girl to being transformed into a slut.
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>>4142332
>It's really shocking to see her being a pure and innocent girl to being transformed into a slut.
I've read enough hentai to feel nothing about this kind of usual development.
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>>4142332
One of her first lines was "What's going on?". She was younger and probably do not know much about drugs or sex. Heck Yuu fuck her raw for her first time.
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>>4142336
>One of her first lines was "What's going on?". She was younger and probably do not know much about drugs or SEX.
She finds out that sex can feels really good and she's honest about it.
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>>4142346
Slut-shaming needs to stop.
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>>4142346
True. That's why she's smiling in the end.
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>>4141054
Aw fuck. Time to fap.
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Where can one find all the work for this series? What is it even called?
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>>4142309
If's anon interpretation, nothing more.

Fascinating how manga has at least 3 interpretations plus 4? more from novel.

I have seen people sure and reassure of the most distant approachs after reading the same events.
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>>4142314
>One good thing about the novel is it goes into detail on what the girls are thinking
Thank God for that.

It's the hottest thing indeed.

>>4142326
And you are forgetting they were only given pills to increase their sensitivity, nothing more. Just to *accelerate* the process.
There are other standard drugs as the waitress say but it wasn't used on the Inn.
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>>4142326
>>4142288
This is only my interpretation of Koharu. Rather thinking she's a natural slut, I beg to differ. I think she was just super lonely and was looking for someone to be with. The guy fulfilled that while Yuu failed. Yuu's fault was his own ignorance to the girls feelings and his selfishness, he deserves to be NTRed hard.
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It's gonna be 2 weeks for cam raws again I suppose?
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>>4142573
give or take, but as I recall; last time it took around 3 to 5 days for the cam raws, and months for the scanned version.
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>>4142663
When will it be translated? After a few weeks, months or years? Don't we have a translator dedicated to Jin works?
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I wonder which will be the ending last page. I bet it would be the black page with a bunch of texts on them and the only panel shows Yuu arriving at the house.
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>>4142453
He has no fault of anything to begin with.
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>>4142573
>>4142663

What has happened to this scene? I don't remember waiting weeks for scans of high profile releases just a couple of years ago.
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>>4142809
Many respectful wait at least 3 months in order to make sure the sales for the book/doujin is maximize as possible. If a digital version is published, scanners tend to back off to respect the author or circle.

Some scanners just want to respect the content creator and not affect the sales.
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>>4142823
If it's comiket then it's limited sales to the event.
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>>4142842
It isn't. Almost all artists sell their works on Toranoana.
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>>4142734
Last page it's the same.
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>>4142842
It isn't, which is why cam raws will be our best shot for a good time.
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>>4142870
We still have no proper translations for Matome Ban, the Fate rider chapter and now the upcoming book. Why aren't these translated? I mean I think all of us would welcome an amateur translation like the previous Tachibana chapter. Most of them had decent translations.

We have no scanlating community for MTSP but we have more crappie works like Netoraserare translated? Such a unfair world.
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>>4142922
Because MTSP works are heavily text, like one of his pages has even 5 times the words than your average doujin.
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>>4142929
Are you serious? Why can't the slow novel translator translate the untranslated manga chapters by Jin before continuing the fucking novel. If he could translate a page full of text, translating pages should be a fucking piece of cake. Also, why can't the spanish scumbags help us? Even that two pages work by Jin on the Orcsoft Anthology is translated by Spanish but not in English. Those stupid fucks are leaching off our scans.
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>>4142922
When you say all of you would welcome an amateur translation like the previous Tachibana... are you sure? I recall seeing a decent amount of people saying how it was crap and it affected the chances of official groups picking it up?
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>>4142976
Yes please insults always make people help out. Also learn to read.
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>>4142922
translators can't work for free
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>>4142922
Because isn't popular among translation teams.
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>>4142976
>our scans
Fuck off, you're just a ESL leecher like us.
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Everyone in this thread should watch Adam Ruins Everything, the sex episode.
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>>4141663
>Dream in vanillafags. Jin is trolling you again.
They are completely different, read them.
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>>4143065
>translators can't work for free
Depends on the person. Of course you "can" work for free. I have fixed the computers of other people for free. There are translators who need money for different reasons, or who won't do it without being paid. Fine with me. They are free to demand money, I just won't pay. A few hours ago, I donated money for political reasons (in order to destroy the European Union), but I won't ever pay for a porn translation, I'd rather run a decent OCR and a crappy machine translation over it.
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>>4143494
Of course do it for free translator exists but like other anon said, rather than encouraging translations some ungrateful cunts starts bitching which in turn scares away any translator that wants to pick the this author.

Note how the translator who did Tohsaka doujins stopped by the same times.

If you don't like it, don't be ungrateful, help them to improve.
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Does anyone have the OCR to the fate rider part though? I'm curious as to what it says.
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>>4142236
>> I mean the novel is clear that she already has sagging breasts and her pussy being worn out
i doubt it
she and her partner both s&m - they constantly teases each other, shit about her body, probably, the same
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>>4144406
S&M? The guy is totally abusing her.
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>>4144450
she always call him "idiot" and etc + in orgy scene they to much into it and she verbally abusing him and with nails injures his back, and he likes it all
they perfect for each other
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>>4144467
And what did the guy do? Put her in her place. She's just trying to resist even if she knows it's futile
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>>4144472
she is total M, but have a little S in her words and attitude and her partner total S, but also get aroused by her cocky side
and she willingly fucks with him for month and when kyouka star fucking with her guy in orgy scene, she said "we sholdnt lose to them" and star with her guy
what resistance ? she dont love rapist, but she love sex with him
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>>4144497
Isn't that what Koharu said? Did the chinks made another revision?
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>>4144503
mb, i read mt of ch translatation
in it yuika prety much assept sex-budies reletionship
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>>4144514
Source your ass, now your making up stuff. What anon here >>4144472 says it's accurate, and your are doing the same those Chinese are doing adding their head canon.
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>>4144532
if she wants to resist - she can go to the police, but its a hentai, its pretty normal for a girl to fall for rapist or get sex-addicted in NTR, beside yuika is M - she is weak
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>>4144450
You are mixing characters.
Yuika's partner from manga loves to brutalize females. He enabled her masochist side.
Yuu is very passive in bed and she becomes sadist with him.

The guy from novel instead is both S and M, same as her, that's why they become fuck buddies without hassle.

Calling it abuse from either side it's a bit of a stretch.
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>>4144684
Yuika's partner is the most skilled out of the three in case you still haven't realize. He made her pass out during their solo sex, that's how rough and skilled he is compared to the others. Each of the guys have their own qualities too.

You only need to read about what he has done to her to know who is the roughest out of the three. Don't even bother to defend the bitch. Yuika is just trying to resist him unlike the other two even if she's knows it's futile. She was practically screaming and moaning as if she's surrendering towards the end of the sex party.
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>>4144694
Look how he made Koharu his bitch in the manga, he's even the one who took her asshole virginity. In the novel, he made Yuika his bitch, her saggy breasts is the proof of the that. She was being blackmailed and got off guard seeing her sister and mother, realizing all her efforts is futile. Calling them sex friends is pretty stupid since the guy probably took advantage of her and fuck her daily.

Yuika got owned literally.
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>>4144698
I hate it when vanilla fans start invading the NTR theory and try to make out a vanilla story between Yuika and the guy. She was different from the other two, a textbook slut and a old slut.
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>>4144699
She always fight back, even in her solo sex scenes but the guy always put her in her place as a slave.
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>>4144698
blackmailed ? by what ? shota-orgy or her rape av ? if she hate sex with rapist - she just need to go to the police and thets all, but logic dont work in hentai - NEVER, in hentai girl might hate the guy, hate her situation, but get wet thinling about his big dick and rought sex and justify herself with blackmail/alco/drugs and etc.
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>>4144701
Her sex video, the guy may have told her what happened to her mother and sister and that he and the other guys will go after them if she doesn't have sex with him. It's obvious. Not to mention the possibility of leaking her sex videos to her university and showing it to Yuu.
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>>4144704
Jin never wanted us to know how because he want people to think and talk about his series.
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>>4144698
Dude, neither of the girls was mindbroken on manga or novel. That's not how the story goes.
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>>4144706
Koharu did in the manga. Kyouka and Koharu in the novel. Kyouka surrendered to pleasure at the end of the novel.
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>>4144708
I don't know how the chinks write their novel but it seems to lack the emotion, flow and clarity of the original.
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>>4144704
yep, pretty typical isnt it ? and yuika typical ntr-heroine, at first she try to resist, but then she just drop that and became sex-addicted
and yes - her rapist will treat her like his slave, because she is a M and like it
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>>4144708
On the novel, Koharu softened this dude instead of him mind-breaking her.

Several anons noticed; she is the same as always after timeskip and the guy is the one acting different.
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So... tomorrow at this hour all books will be on sale, right?
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We hope that at this time tomorrow at least we'll get the cam raws.... hopefully
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>>4144807
this
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Nips don't do cam-raws.
We'll get 2 pics of the new pages, period. And with watermark or bars.
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>>4144717
WTF are you talking about? She's basically a full blown slut by the time of the group scene and the guy doesn't need to do anything. Koharu is already wet before they started and become so proactive at sex. I don't how you interpret the situation that way. She is mindbroken beyond repair. She has become like Hisako of Lustful Berry whenever she's intoxicated with drugs.
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>>4145009
Koharu fell during her solo sex. Yuika fell during the group sex scene and Kyouka fell in the ending.
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koharu is the blonde chick right? I always get the blonde and black hair one mixed up
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All the girls surrendered to the guys in the end. Is it really that hard to accept that? The guys aren't even serious with them. Once they are bored of them, they'll throw them away. There is no love between any of the guys and the girls. Even Kyouka says summarised it in the end, they fell better being fucked by guys who do not give a fuck about them rather than someone who (barely) has feelings for any of them.
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>>4145032
People need to read between the lines, not just read the text. I really think Jin played a big part at the story and gave a lot of guidance to Uehara Ryou. He does care about his work a lot.
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>>4145032
>>The guys aren't even serious with them. Once they are bored of them, they'll throw them away. There is no love between any of the guys and the girls.
and this what they call "sex buddies/friends" and when i wrote about that anon began to prove to me that she not enjoy it and she was forced like sex-slave
and koharu not "mind broken" - she just enjoy normal fucking after certain pencil-dick
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