29th of Jan, fuck this wait
>>4106445
Too much boyass for my taste.
>>41>06445
>Queen Bee
Dropped. Going to ruin rape and murder a classic and shota for that matter(we never get shota OVA) fuck off i'm done. I hope it's complete trash. If you honesty think i'm going to buy this you're fucking retarded.
>>4106464
Same. Was hyped with that cover then I read Queen Bee. Hype derailed.
>>4106464
Saw the cover, got so hyped that i didnt even notice Queen Bee's doin it..... FUCK.
damn it's from queen bee
>>4107005
They basically just scan the source, rig it and animate it with flash. At least that's what it looks like. It just feels like looking at a cheap motion comic or something like that.
I believe they do this to stay somewhat true to the art style of the source but yeah, people usually hate them because it looks cheap as fuck and can barely be called animation.
>>4107129
Ah that's not too bad. I've seen their stuff before and it works for me.
>>4107129
no no noooooooooo
can't just someone bomb that studio, their production is lethal cancer to the industry
>>4107129
Oh hey, are they the ones that did the animated adaptation of Pisu Hame?
>>4107212
Yes they are.
>>4107226
Okay, I get the hate now. Yea, that was pretty disappointing.
>>4106445
>Adaptation of an incredible manga
>By Queen Bee
>>4107129
How the fuck do they keep gettin big title mangas tho, theyve already ruined so many
>>4107293
Probably because they offer the lowest price to do so apart from from other animation companies.
>>4106445
>Queen Bee takes all the /ss/ and fucking ruins it
What a cruel fucking world we live in. Oh well, searching my feelings I have to admit I'd honestly rather have six "ehh" episodes from a studio that always pumps out tons of shit than one decent episode from a studio that'll do a single episode and then move on.
>>4106445
It shouldn't be happening like that.
Isn't that just great? A great franchise or story gets picked up to be made into a movie, and it's given to the worst possible person. Like Micheal Bay's Transformers or TMNT. or M. Night Shamalan's Avatar: The Last Airbender. Fucking hell, man. Why can't it just be someone good for once? Well, then again, every h-anime just looks the same to me anyway, so it's not so much a loss on my side.
This has been adapted to a hentai before. The manga is a ripoff of another manga with the exact storyline.
>>4106464
Queen Bee is the most consistent and most faithful hentai studios in history. Their adaptations are perfect so I don't know why you are complaining. Okina's Pisu hame is considered the greatest hentai anime released this decade.
>>4109304
>today is opposites day
>>4109304
You can't possibly be serious
>>4109304
Queen bee is literally the single shittiest hentai studio there is, there only merit is that they maintain the original art style and even then they don't do that well, their animation is literally made in flash with very little actual animation inbetween, it's horrible, it's shitty, and I honestly hope they go out of business so they stop ruining series with shitty adaptations.
>>4106445
God dammit! Once again its Queen Bee that will ruin yet another classic....
How the fuck are they still in business? Out of all the studios still producing regular h-anime they literally use the weakest animation style.
Have the standards in japan really fallen that far that the local nips are actually still buying such crap in enough quantity that a studio like Queen Bee is able to stay active and continue to acquire the properties that they have?!
>>4106445
Screw you OP for being excited about this! Anything that comes out of Queen Bee can suck an infinite amount of dick!
>>4109398
japan has legendarily shit taste and will gladly eat up whatever shit companies pour out to them as long as it has the name they recognize.
also queen bee's animation doesn't require much work or money to produce, so they have a significantly smaller amount they need to make up in order to be considered successful, and since they get the big names = nips will buy it = they continue existing and being their cancerous selves.
the same Queen Bee that made adaptation of netosarerare?
Well fuck might as well make cutouts on paper and animate this manga myself.
>>4109386
Queen Bee is the greatest. What kind of adaptation do you want. Hentai anime shouldn't deviate from the original art style. Manga creators want their work to be animated as close to their work, Queen Bee does that very well.
You call the animation weak but how? Maybe you're still a fucking virgin and laying your frustration on a hentai.
>>4109398
>>4109473
>>4109401
Fuck off. They are the best. Japanese have poor standards? Are you confusing reality and anime. Every single manga have an art style that fits them. Queen Bee is amazing at adapting an manga art style in an anime. An anime's purpose is adapt the manga.
Okina and Yamato away specifically chose Queen Bee for their adaptations so blame them.
They are the best.
>>4109528
Easily the most autistic post i have ever read. Go outside, you could do with sone reality
>>4109528
>getting this upset over hentai.
K
>>4106445
sheeiiiiit
>>4109528
Wow way to go you autistic scum... Go take your meds and get of /h/. Its mentalities like yours that keep shit studios like Queen Bee producing garbage animation.
>>4109579
Oh really? Then Okina, Yamatogawa and all the artists who worked with Queen Bee are garbage. Good logic.
News flash, Queen Bee is the only animation studio that allows artists to get involve with the project whether it's checking the scenario or drawing the key frames.
>>4109585
What are you even going on about dude? I'm no master of moon runes but I do at least know enough that its pretty well industry standard practice for animation studios (including h-anime ones) to have input from the original creators regarding the process.
So I'm not sure where you are getting this info that QB is the only studio that allows any creator input, thereby making them superior but you should review your facts.
>>4109585
You really should stop making a fool of yourself. You obviously have no idea what you're even talking about
>Queen Bee
what a fucking travesty
first futabu, now this
>>4106445
>awesome cover
>Queen Bee
EVERY. FUCKING. TIME
>>4109528
>read pisu hame
>clearly energetic, hardcore, and tense scene
>watch pisu hame
>slow animation and sloppy level of animation make characters look like they are struggling around like worms rather than being ravished like a beast
>okina and yamato specifically chose
no they didn't. They were offered it when other companies didn't. Since its free to them might as well take it even if its shit.
>An anime's purpose is adapt the manga.
That's why queen bee is shit. Atmosphere, intensity and mood were all taken away by sloppy animation.
has there ever been a hentai adaption of a manga that was done right?
>>4109671
They did. Okina wanted the anime adaptation to be more vanilla. The reason why other studios rejected Okina because they didn't want him to be involved further than the character designs ad pretty much unwilling to retell the manga in anime form. The atmosphere, mood and intensity is in the anime. Maybe you can't stand Okina's art.
>>4109677
Peace Hame.
>>4109644
Sora no Iro Mizu no Iro is one of the worst adaptation I have ever seen. The visual novel art alone will tear it to pieces. The visual novel is legendary but the hentai isn't. The sex scenes are hot, but nothing compared to Tony Taka's CGs. It lacks the story, meaning the sex scenes have no purpose.
>>4109677
Forget to say Yosuga no Sora.
>>4109696
Why are you trying to defend queen bee? Are they paying you? I doubt they would considering how fucking cheap they are.
Queen bee is where artists who literally have nowhere else to go go, they're the bottom of the barrel, the last resort.
they ruin everything they touch with bad animation that both fails at quality and eroticism.
peace hame was a fucking joke, everything they've done by emily is disgusting in how lazy it is.
I would honestly rather have any other studio, ANY other studio do secret journey than Queen Bee.
Poju is a fantastic artist, and I love secret journey, but holy shit this is going to be so bad it's not even funny.
I'd honestly rather just read the manga if all I'm getting is a badly traced flash animated copy of it instead.
I think I just had a eureka moment for why Queen Bee manages to stay in business.
They use the cover and previews to their advantage.
the cover is almost always done by the original artist, so it looks good, and their shitty style of tracing the original art works great for still shots to put as a preview, so poor souls get duped into buying an adaptation they THINK is going to be identical to the original, just animated in a quality way
what they get instead is a traced, poorly animated excuse of an adaptation, and now they're out of their money because who's honestly going to return a DVD to the porn store or send it back through mail?
holy shit these asshats are scummy.
>>4109278
JJ abrahms doing star wars!
I mean, it's not like he TOTALLY fucked up star trek, right?
>>4106445
>well loved source
>Queen bee "animates" it 9/10
Jesus fuck I hate this company
didn't po-ju already get a pretty decent studio to animate one of his works, natsuyasumi or whatever the fuck?
why queen bee?
New to judging studios 'n' shtit.
Considering they did Futabu and Imako System, what is wrong with them outside of cutting a lot out due to time/money restraints?
>>4109755
Never read this manga, but literally ANY studio would be preferable.
I would personally pick Collab Works because they do some decent work when they feel like it.
Just read through all of the manga I could find on sadpanda, is there more? I'm pretty much invested in the story at this point.
DOES HE EVER MAKE IT TO INDIA?
>>4109528
Jewdai knight.
>Queen Bee
Am I the only one that wasn't able to masturbate to a single series they've done?
Why the fuck would you watch queen bee? Just read the manga while shaking your head and it will still be better than the "animation".
Does anyone read moon? Do the elevens even like queer bee?
>>4109696
>They did
citation plz. Your claims sound ridiculously stupid. Artists dont look for animators to animate their shit. Studios come to artists not vice versa.
>The atmosphere, mood and intensity is in the anime
no it isn't. You're either fucking retarded or desperate to defend queen bee. Slow ass shit animations generated by flash causes sex to appear sluggish as shit, which heavily contrasts the sweaty aggressive stuff in the manga.
>Okina wanted the anime adaptation to be more vanilla.
Citation plz. Okina writes about sex crazed youth, not vanilla. A kid who has to fuck every single chick by any means isn't exactly vanilla here.
>Maybe you can't stand Okina's art.
stop fucking baiting you massive faggot. I criticize queen bee's half assed animation, so stop trying to twist this around to say that I'm hating on the original artist.
>>4109771
He doesn´t know.
>>4109774
I'm to disgusted to even give a single fap to them.
>>4106445
Well I think this was the quickest I've ever gone from being super excited to majorly bummed out.
Dammit. Of all the studios it had to be fucking Queen Bee... what a waste.
Holy shit you guys are such spoiled ungrateful faggots. I mean, I don't like Queen Bee but I'm at least grateful for what I get.
>>4109969
Err...ungrateful? People are just saying they don't like Queen Bee and why. Whether or not they will download this title, regardless of their opinion of the studio, is irrelevant.
>>4109969
Grateful for what ? You mean 'animated' manga and color things for adaptation ?
I should read the manga than watching these shitty Queen Bee adaptations.
>>4109707
They are a decent studio. There are better than Poro or ZiZ and they are awesome. Of you don't like it, then don't watch it.
There is also a thread here years ago about Pixy being shit, downright ridiculous because all their titles could be considered the greatest of their genre.
Same goes for Queen Bee. If Queen Bee animation isn't making you hard, maybe you need to watch porn not hentai.
I can see why Poju choose Queen Bee to do it.
>>4109993
Spoiled brat. Maybe hentai died because of your complaining.
Today, any studio's release is crap. All the studios that still present today are bottom of the barrel.
>>4110016
>Queen Bee
>decent studio
>>4110033
Fact, Queen Bee is the only studio which isn't hated by content creators.
>>4110037
So you are saying ZiZ, Poro, Mary Jane and Pink Pineapple are hated by content creators?
>>4109969
We won't see two brothers with a demon scene so why to be grateful?
>>4110045
Yeah. Kagami didn't like ZiZ take on Taimanin Yukikaze, Carn wanted a vanilla first episode for Mesu Nochi Torare but Mary Jane scrapped it, as for Poro... (Check out the new True Blue cover).
Pink Pineapple is decent but their early titles are better.
>>4110056
Wasn't Taimanin Yukikaze by Aoi Nagisa and not Kagami, though?
>>4110056
Seriously can you give some fucking sources on your crazy claims? Mesu Nochi was strait out ntr, why the fuck would the author want it to be vanillia? The cover of true blue doesn't show that the creator hated the adaptation. I fucking hope to hell you're not assuming just because the artstyle doesn't match up perfectly the authors hated the adaptation.
>I can see why Poju choose Queen Bee to do it.
Queen bee is the only one that offered it, poju didn't have anything else to choose from.
>>4110105
Twitter pages of the artists. Mesu Nochi Torare started out as a vanilla. Read the fucking Tankobon it is based on.
The new cover of true blue? Come one are you blind? False advertising? The girl became Porololified.
>>4110105
Poju closed Queen Bee. Check out his Twitter page. When he announced the anime he was super excited that it will be released by Queen Bee.
Queen Bee is has always been a decent studio. Accepts the fucking fact. ZiZ is the worst out there.
>>4109637
To be fair, Futabu! wasn't THAT bad.
>people replying to the guy vehemently defending Queen Bee
I had no idea it was this easy to fucking bait /h/. Holy shit.
>>4110107
>started out as a vanilla
That's not how fucking vanilla works you dipshit. The purpose of ntr was to shit over the idea of vanilla. Just because it had regular sex in the beginning doesn't mean it was aiming for it to be vanillia, rather it was setting it up for ntr.
poro never did true blue. they did triangle and dark. Either way just because the artstyle was different doesnt fucking prove that the author hated it. You got twitter proof saying that they were disappointed or upset with it?
>he was super excited
doesn't mean he fucking chose it. stop trying to twist around words. If I had written something and after 10 years I get an offer for it, even if its shit I would still be excited for it.
>Queen Bee is has always been a decent studio
even queen bee knows they suck. That's why they have 3 min at the end of all their products where they desperately try to show how similar they are to the original. You see other companies doing that shit? They don't because such a segment is unnecessary to begin with. But queen bee has to do it because they realize they're underwhelming and try to justify their sloppy work with "at least our artwork is close to the original!" If queen bee was truly proud of their work they wouldn't release such a dumbass segment to begin with in the first place.
>>4110122
yeah, sure, if you didn't watch any of the prior 4 episodes made by another studio
>>4110159
Everyone! Its clear that we are all trying to debate a guy that is either a.) successfully trolling /h/. or b.) Is so convinced of his position that there is literally nothing that anyone on this board can say that will change his mind.
Might I recommend that unless this guy provides some serious sourceage on his so far baseless argument that "the content creators flock to Queen Bee" we just let this thread die the death it deserves.
>>4110177
Nice quote fuckface
>>4109398
In all honesty, H-animation has never really been good. Murakami is one only one who animates more than 4 frames these days.
>>4109973
Talking shit about the studio, saying you wish the studio doesn't exist when there are clearly fans in Japan who like their animations, calling their work lazy without knowing how anything works in the studio, is clearly ignorance and spoiled as fuck. It's hardly an opinion. It's just throwing a tantrum on something you have no right to talk about. It's the sake of crying like little kid when it has nothing to do with you. The Japanese studio doesn't even give a fuck about you.
This is why many studios would be scared to bring their hentai animations outside of Japan because you have the majority of foreign people pirating their animations, you have a bunch of people being dispectful to what they do, and you get people who have the mindset of, why buy porn when you can watch it for free? This doesn't even apply to just Queen Bee.
I've been with the hentai community for a long time. You get a lot of huge fucking expectations for hentai animations, a lot of people cry, no one seems to appreciate anything they get. It happens all the time and Its fucking horrible. Especially whwn you read comments for Queen Bee. You get people hoping for them to die. I seriously hope that you guys have no way of watching hentai so, you can at least be grateful and appreciate what you get. Fucking spoiled and ignorant dumbasses. Yo
>>4110191
You're serious right? Victorian maid can easily beat any of his work in terms of quality.
>>4110156
So, whats the point of crying? What do you think it'll do? Oh wait, its just because you want to cry. Never mind.
>>4110193
Still waiting on those sources bro. You could put this whole debate to bed right now if you can show even just a couple instances of where original manga creators say they are choosing Queen Bee for their quality over other studios.
>>4110208
The guy actually took the time to break down your argument and made a couple valid points and all you can do in return is say "why you crying bro?" Get real, man.
>>4110213
I'm not the fucking same anon you dumbass and the original artist do get a lot more involved since its literally them drawing everything. Not exactly surprising if they prefer Queen Bee over other studios. Most hentai animations just trash the original art and do their own.
Seriously Queen Bee's intent is to make people happy and have their style reach specific people and here you guys are, stealing their work and then complaining that it's shit and that they should fuck off. I'm pretty sure the artists are happy with them since they get a lot more involvement and their art gets animated. There's like, a Queen Bee title every month and the good doujins get picked up by them. They must be well liked in Japan and popular. Just you guys are spoiled as fuck so, you wouldn't appreciate their style.
>>4110219
I'm not the fucking same anon you dumbass.
>>4110223
So now we are talking piracy?
Well you just made a delightful assumption that I never purchase anything. Well I got some fun news for you bro!
I actually buy manga and h-anime from Japan pretty damn often. So if your argument is that I don't have a "right" to express my concerns and displeasure at a studio because I don't buy anything from them then you are very mistaken.
I have, actually, on more than one occasion. And Queen Bee has consistently been the most disappointing when compared to all the productions I have purchased.
Hence why Queen Bee will no longer receive anymore of my money and has not for 4 years now. And also hence why, when I see some content in which I like the original source material (In this case Secret Journey) that is being produced by QB I will not hesitate to let my opinion be known that I find them to be a crummy company with bad animation techniques. I will go so far as to say that I recommend that no one make the same mistakes I did and purchase anything from them.
>>4110241
Ironic because you you made a delightful assumption that I was the same anon.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ARE THEY ANIMATING THAT SCENE FROM CHATTER 7 WITH THE NAGA BOTCH AND THE EGG LAYING?
>>4110246
chapter, and Naga. Fuck you, phone
>>4110245
Ok. Well then I guess we both made an assumption.
That aside I'm still addressing your argument. So what do you think? Any rebuttal? Or are we going to just resort to name calling?
>>4110241
I also don't see a reason to be this mad because either way, there's a huge chance your favorite doujin will get ruined by another studio and so on and on. If you want to be mad then be mad at the industry for not being that big. There's soo many bad hentai adaption so, I don't see how it's any different or how it's surprising. Hell, Queen Bee can do a much better adaption but have bad animation. It could be panel by panel. Literally pisu was panel by panel. Hentai animations have the highest chance of fucking up adaptions so, you're in the wrong place. It's just stupid of you when it's proven multiple times.
>>4110252
And with you and me. There was no fucking argument. I'm not the same anon as you were talking with. I'm not sure what you want me to prove when I'm just telling people to stop being spoiled and ungrateful with the industry being extremely small and them pirating the works and crying like a bitch when they have no right to talk. Its a fact. Sure you're one of the few that is actually supporting the industry and my assumption is wrong this time. Still doesn't let you get away with your disrespectful talk and ignorance with the studio and the fact you have high expectations for hentai.
>>4110246
You mean tentacle sex with Hakkai?
>>4110269
Yeah. By far my favorite scene.In pretty much any hentai medium
>>4110262
Nothing wrong with desiring high standards from products that one has put their money into to buy and support.
And you seem to be on this kick that Queen Bee and the industry as a whole should be above reproach. Disrespectful talk? Ignorance with the studio? I'm afraid you have lost me on those two points.
No where in any of my comments have I done anything yet address the core issue. which is that Queen Bee does a bad job of animating their productions.
This defensive streak you are demonstrating where anyone that is speaking negatively about this studio is immediately a hypocrite or just "complaining to complain." seems rather shallow. As you yourself have admitted your assumption on me was incorrect. yet you continue to feel it appropriate to lump everyone that is criticizing QB in together?
On the grounds that piracy is bad and only hurts the small industry? Or that the h-anime world is a shadow of its former self?
These are all old arguments that frankly are getting off track to the core point I've been trying to stick with this whole time.
Which is that Queen Bee does a bad job animating their adaptions. What is wrong or false in regards to me making that declaration?
>>4110287
>Queen Bee Does a bad job of animating their productions
Thats completely intentional. Its their type of animation and their style to keep the art as close to the original. Rather you like it or not. Thats their intention which is obvious.
>>4110287
>Nothing wrong with desiring high standards from products that one has put their money into to buy and support.
There is a huge problem here because its fucking hentai and they're known for having low budgets and fucking up adaptions. Do you really not know that? You're expecting more than what is possible for them which is completely wrong.
>>4110295
I don't see how one can do a bad job of doing what they're intended which is placing the lowest priority for the animation while focusing everything on art and they succeeded in that as proven by watching the animations. They rather did a good job on what they wanted to do. I don't really get how this isn't ignorance.
>>4110295
There's a difference between closely following the original source material and doing what they're doing. There is nothing good about their animation process and style. Intentional or not, you can follow the original source material without half-assing it and lazily tracing and lazily animating in the manner they do it.
>>4110295
>move into animation
>do a bad job at animation
>"Its intentional guise!"
guess why people regard them as shit
>>4110310
How would you know this? You know someone who works in the industry? This is the ignorance I'm talking about.
>>4110314
The thing is you have to have really good art too and its a style. I doubt the animation is as easy as you make it seem. Then again, we don't know anything about how they do things so, we shouldn't be saying anything.
>all this Queen Shilling
Is Queen Bee the EA of hentai now?
>>4110359
So what? To not make myself seem like I'm shilling. I have to cry along with you guys? You guys have your own opinion on Queen Bee and I have mine on how ungrateful and spoiled you faggots are.
>>4110407
>Supporting garbage animation
>supporting slide show animation
Shut the fuck up and leave now. You are the problem.
>>4110407
Okay, Queen Bee. Go play Battlefront.
>>4110407
I don't like Queen Bee, but you are saying I'm not supposed to say they are bad else I would be ungrateful?
There are people who are vocal in saying "I'm not fond of their style" and "Queen Bee is bad and you should feel bad liking their stuff". Different people but I guess in your view, both are ungrateful.
...mmmmkay.
>>4110407
You mean, you like Queen Bee and other don't like and therefore they are ungrateful bastard ?
>stop liking what I like!
>>4109677
There's a couple by Pink Pineapple. A Takayaki work, a Shimimaru work, a Matsumoto Drill work, a Fukudaha work, a Kino Hitoshi work just to name artists of OVA animations that got decent adaptions.
>>4110056
>Kagami didn't like ZiZ take on Taimanin Yukikaze
Good thing he didn't work on that title at all and single-handedly proved you're bullshitting your argument in one fell swoop. Maybe do some research next time you want to bait.
>>4109401
OP here, i didnt realise it was being done by queen bee. saw it on a release calender (hentaitake), an anon mentiond it then i flipped the table.
>>4106445
KAKAROT
>>4110581
Its clearly not a simple case of, I don't really like Queen Bee's style but its clear aggressive insults and people talking like they even have teh right to say anything.
The hentai industry is extremely small as it is and you have these people on a this site watching shit that is handed to them for free and they're complaining like spoiled fags. For me, I appreciate anything I get and I'm a understandable person. What the industry needs is money and not people talking shit.
>>4111926
I'm not even a fan of Queen Bee. I don't like the animation but I'm not gonna cry like a bitch and talk like I know the industry from the inside out. I'm just grateful for being able to download hentai and watch it. Subs for hentai are already dying considering that only one group is subbing it which is Hentaihaven and in the first place. Theres not many people uploading it. Literally Hikiko123, the guy from ani-erokuni and okazusubs upload it most of the time.
>>4111928
you are the problem.
>>4111926
>What the industry needs is money and not people talking shit.
>Cant form an opinion, just eat shit
>>4111926
Even a hobo gets to gripe when the restaurant owner hands perfectly good ingredients to the incompetent cook instead of any of the other guys in the kitchen who wouldn't proceed to turn it into a pile of inedible slop.
Hentai anime is very niche on Japan nowadays, people will more likely buy anime and doujins. Ever since various takeovers in many hentai studios have now focused on profits over quality.
Look at Pixy for example, the studio barely break even with most of their projects, in fact they only profit whenever they put series on DVD boxes. Since Lilith is now headed by a greedy asshole, their new animation studio, ZiZ is a shadow of their former self. Despite the lower quality and cheaper production, they are earning more than Pixy.
Queen Bee is consistent, they may not have the best animation but they are able to try their best in a very restricted budget. In fact, most of their series barely break even.
The hentai industry today is shit. Only Mary Jane and Pink Pineapple are the only studios taking a risk.
>>4106445
FFS, why Queen Bee? Why not let the same co do it that did Natsuyasumi? That was beutiful animaton...Worthi of Secret Journey.
>>4107226
I can't forgive them for that. Fuck them.
I tried watching a few of Queen Bee's adaptations and I ended up not even downloading any of Queen Bee's shit anymore.
Totally fucked up the adaptation from Yamatogawa. Fuck them, There is also that King something that is also fucking shit.
>>4112702
Considering you guys are telling the studio to fuck off and show a huge amount of harsh hate towards them. That's okay but you pull the victim card when I start talking shit about your opinion. Seriously? fuck off spoiled brat. I bet if your mom cooked something bad. You would just cry like a bitch saying its shit and that she's being lazy.
>>4112984
Tayu Tayu was fine. If you want something more hardcore go watch porn. It's really funny virgins laying their frustrations on hentai, got no imagination?
>>4113011
That depends on whether she intentionally cooked something bad or not.
Seems like if someone gave you an ice cream covered in shit, you will simply smile and say thank you just because its free and you like ice cream.
>>4113055
If someone made ice cream based on a small budget and he worked hard on it but it still turns out bad because its hard to make it good with his amount of budget. I'll be grateful for it and thankful. If I wanted to help him out. I'll give him more of a budget.
>>4113016
It was shit.
>Secret Journey animation
MUH DICK
>Queen Bee
Kill me!
>>4113154
Holy crap this thread is still going?!
And you! Just read through couple days worth of comments to catch back up. I'm still not sure what exactly you (and best I can tell two other guys that seem to agree with you) are so pissed at...
You have yet to address the core argument of QB doing bad animation and rather just seem content character attacking everyone saying "you don't understand", "stop complaining about something you don't give money to." or "you should just be happy with what you get."
Why are you so determined to defend this company? You have yet to really disagree that the animation from Queen Bee is sub-par and instead keep making these odd metaphors.
And really if you want to talk about "having a right to complain" what makes you the arbiter of deciding who should be able to complain?
>>4113315
>I'm still not sure what exactly you (and best I can tell two other guys that seem to agree with you) are so pissed at...
I'm pissed at ungrateful spoiled people crying all the time like they actually supported the industry and did something. The industry is already doing extremely bad and you have people being extremely critic about hentai. How does that make sense?
>You have yet to address the core argument of QB doing bad animation
I don't get why you're saying here but I'm just telling people to stop fucking crying and spoiled. Queen Bee is purposely doing this shit. Its clear that its a style of theirs. Sure, they can make the animation better but that requires budget. They're doing what they can for their fans and the artist while making money and working with the amount of budget they have and guess whats happening in this thread?
>Why are you so determined to defend this company?
Because I'm not spoiled and ungrateful for what I get. I live in a household where I actually appreciate what I get especially when its free and I try to understand things. The hentai industry is doing bad. Theres bad things being produced from it. Wow, big fucking surprise. I should cry about it now right?
>And really if you want to talk about "having a right to complain" what makes you the arbiter of deciding who should be able to complain?
Oh, then if a bunch of spoiled kids are crying and talking when they don't have any right to talk. You can't say anything to them at all? Thats some stupid ass logic.
>>4113315
Its really damn funny how everyone in this thread is just crying and insulting the studio and then someone tells them to stop crying and be understandable and then they play the victim card. Its fucking ironic as hell.
>>4113154
Means they do nothing, lazy and have crap skills. Small budget just lame excuse
>>4113374
You're in wrong board pal, if shit it always shit. If 50-50 , some can enjoy, otherwise just leave it. If good, then is very nice. There is no use to defend what so ever. Plus, you think only you WHO actually appreciate with everything you get hur hur hur dur dur dur
People just shitting here like 5-10 words and yet you try to def with your fucking paragraph of explanations. People just like to counter, you know ?
>>4113380
>Means they do nothing, lazy and have crap skills. Small budget just lame excuse
Wow, you must work in their studio huh? and budget is a lame excuse? How retarded are you? Maybe if you moved out of your mom's basement and experienced the real world. You might be able to be grateful and appreciate what you get eh?
>>4113391
See ? You still use that " be grateful and appreciate " as your shitty def
How are you exactly ? 16 ?
Your mom just taught you that week ago ?
>>4113396
Because its the truth...? and its not exactly a defense but its just me straight out telling you guys. My defense as to why the animation isn't so great is something I already explained many times. Not my fault you didn't read properly.
>Are you 16?
Your english isn't good and you use a meme from reddit. Please tell me you're joking here.
>>4113417
I read it just fine grammar kun
>>4113391
>implying queen bee is better
Every studio is better then queen bee by far and i would NEVER buy shit quality.
>>4113471
You're telling me this because...? You think I give a shit about your opinion? Seriously, you're the one killing the industry.
>>4113565
and you think I give a shit about your def ? Weird is you have time to give a shit to justify Queen Bee animation style from the start
>>4113569
Do you know proper English? What the fuck is def? Is this a mmorpg? And stop using such gay memes. How much autistic do you have?
>>4113576
desperate, aren't you ?
Honestly guys. I'm glad this title is getting animated by Queen Bee because you guys really don't deserve a proper adaption anyways. Wouldn't even matter cuz you're not gonna pay for it either way. Hahahaha.
>>4113583
Yes, because I'm the one using meme images.
>>4113583
>>4114359
Remember that anonymous mentioned Peace Hame is Queen Bee's most profitable series? He was actually wrong. It was the most pirated out of anime out of Queen Bee's history. It was Okina who foot the bill, that's why he used to announced in Twitter to buy the hentai instead of pirating it. You guys have no right to complain since you guys are assholes. Even those who buy the DVD, unfortunately the you don't have any right to complain either since those who pirate exceeds those who buy the DVD.
Piracy is a major problem in Japan. We always complain but hentai studios don't. That's because they are proud of anything they do and that's what makes Queen's Bee a good studio.
Someone post something by this studio so I can decide.
>>4114371
>Making flash animation is good
>Queen's Bee a good studio
Um no get gud or don't make hentai.
>>4114375
You realize animators are only paid minimum wage. If you fucking stop pirating, maybe the quality of Hentai will improve. Do you realize how hard it is to animate? Animators work harder than the rest of this thread combined for minimum wage. Considering piracy takes away 70% of the budget, you calculate. An hentai being able to break even its budget is considered a top tier hentai.
>>4114378
So considering that, Queen Bee is a top tier studio. Piracy is the reason why many hentai studios like Pixy and Studios 9 Maiami ceased to exist. So fuck you.
Can someone just post a gif or webm from a Queen Bee animation so I can understand what horrors they are capable of?
Google is too hard for me.
>>4114406
>>4114414
This is fine. One question for every single scumbag here. How much do you think Queen Bee's budget per hentai episode? This is a serious question. Be sure to calculate wages of voice actors and staff, marketing as well as packaging. I'm fucking serious.
>>4114414
Fucking awful. Why can't they just make it a motion comic?
>>4114420
They're making it for their Japanese consumers. Not for you. So, why would it matter for you?
>>4114423
Still defending Queen Bee's shit quality anon? Good on ya, boards like these always need that delusional fuck to keep it interesting.
>>4114439
Delusional? Its clear facts and you're just denying it. You don't have anything to say against it.
>>4114442
then ?
>>4114423
>What the fuck is you measuring stick for an hentai? A mainstream anime?
Pick an choose bro. Pretty much any label is better than Queen Bee. It's Mediabank's budget shit label.
Most of Mary Jane and A1C is a good stick to start with.
>>4114444
You can't really compare Queen Bee to other studios when Queen Bee is doing something different than them. They're going for their own style and there are studios with lower budget than others and others with a bit more. Is that so surprising that you have to cry about it?
>>4114442
Stay strong anon, don't let them break you!
>>4114452
I can compare all I fucking want, if Queen Bee decides to cut corners by making motion comics then that's their fault by design.
>Is that so surprising that you have to cry about it?
Of course not but yeah I'm going to cry about it when a shitty label takes some of the best works when another studio could have handled it better.
>>4114455
>if Queen Bee decides to cut corners by making motion comics then that's their fault by design.
Their works are popular in Japan considering they get to pick up all the popular manga and they have animations for every month. How exactly is this bad for them? They're making money and their work is successful. Why should they care if some foreign guy don't like it? They literally don't give a shit so, whats the point of crying about it?
>>4114461
They get it because it's so easy to churn out these animations, it's high profit value for them.
>How exactly is this bad for them?
Their work gets poor treatment. Look at MTSP Jin's comments about why there's no animations of his works even though he has been offered. He didn't sell out. You're delusional if you think it's just a small foreign fanbase that has this opinion.
>>4114465
I know for sure that the small minority of foreign's opinion doesn't matter at all. If a Japanese consumer says it then I'm completely fine but a majority of this bad treatment I'm seeing is coming from a crowd that the Japanese studio gives no shit about which makes no sense in crying about it.
>Look at MTSP Jin's comments about why there's no animations of his works even though he has been offered. He didn't sell out.
Was he talking exclusively to Queen Bee? Kinda funny if he's fine with other studio butchering his art style completely and having his story trash on.
>They get it because it's so easy to churn out these animations, it's high profit value for them.
OK, so their plan worked well after all and its successful. Good job for them.
>Of course not but yeah I'm going to cry about it when a shitty label takes some of the best works when another studio could have handled it better.
Let me get this straight. This is a fine example of a better adaption.
>Butchered art style
>Story completely put in the trash
>The content of the original source is all over the place
And this is bad adaption which is Queen Bee.
>Same original art style
>Panel by panel
>Everything from the original source is there
>Bad animation
So, what makes it better is because the animation is better. Wow, a fine example of autism.
>>4114476
> but a majority of this bad treatment I'm seeing is coming from a crowd that the Japanese studio gives no shit about which makes no sense in crying about it.
Well you're posting on an English imageboard, what the fuck do you expect? Are we not allowed to bitch? What does your opinion matter here either? Of course not but you're still carrying on this pointless conversation trying to defend your poor taste in animation.
>Was he talking exclusively to Queen Bee?
He didn't name names but Queen Bee most likely did given their history of work.
>Good job for them.
Good for them, bad for us.
>>4114478
>So, what makes it better is because the animation is better. Wow, a fine example of autism.
If the animation is bad why bother in the first place? I'd rather just read the manga.
>>Butchered art style
>Story completely put in the trash
>The content of the original source is all over the place
Nice strawman. A better adaption doesn't necessarily do any of the three and doing so might actually better than the original work. Just look at Ran->Sem. I'd rather them take a chance at making a decent work rather than just giving up which is what Queen Bee does.
>>4114479
>Bad for us
Yes, because we actually have to spend money to watch it. Oh wait.....
>Poor taste in animation
That has nothing to do with understanding it's Queen Bee's style of animation, that they don't have the money to make the animation better, not being spoiled and ungrateful for what you are watching for free.
>>4114487
Oh look it's the "you can't bitch because it's free argument" how trite.
>>4114489
Yes, because it makes sense. You have no way of even arguing against it anyways because its true.
>>4114483
>Making decent work than give up
How can they do that when its not possible? They pretty much made up their own style based on their own budget. This is called surviving in the industry. If a studio can make decent work then they will. It makes no sense not to. And you really seem not to understand what a style is.
>>4114493
>You have no way of even arguing against it anyways because its true.
I wish I had the appropriate stick man comic. Gets used all the time. Someone must have it here.
>>4114494
Oh, you need your Reddit memes to get your thoughts across. Nice. Not surprising coming from someone whos spoiled and ungrateful.
>>4114495
The irony coming someone using a meme argument. It only fits.
>>4114493
Call it a style all you want, if laziness and poor animation is embedded in their style does that automatically negate any criticism? Same thing about the pirating too.
>>4114498
Okay, it seems like I won this argument considering you don't have much to say and you're going off topic. Have a nice day. Hope you become a more grateful person.
>>4114502
Running away because you know you're wrong isn't "winning"
>>4109304
what was the name of the first series?
>>4114500
They worked hard with the amount of resources they have available to them and so, the animation is lazy? and not because its done purposely because they don't have the money to have good animation support the good art style but they still want their own style? Oh wait, we don't know anything about their situation so can we actually say anything?
>>4114509
I already gave facts and the truth.I argued everything you said. You then went off topic talking about stickman. Whos running away here?
>>4114504
You're fucking retarded.
>>4114515
So , does it matter at all ? Life goes on, people want buy , people want pirate it, some to critic it or give good reviews and here you are sitting try to explain the fucking things. Well, it's fun you know.
Can I ask you again, does all these MATTER to you ? You can't win everyone
>>4114518
Making people aware that they're spoiled matters. I'm doing a huge favor for them.
>>4114515
>You're fucking retarded.
Don't be so mad you got called out on your bullshit.
>>4114521
I'm aware I can buy these hentai but I chose not to
>>4114521
More like you're just trying to defend your poor taste by calling anyone that criticizes it spoiled. Nice meme
>>4114529
>completely valid
Man, I guess we can't complain about how shitty Taco Bell is because kids are starving in Africa. Fucking 1st world problems. How could it all go so wrong.
>>4114529
like I said, you can't fucking win everyone with your truth as everyone already saw the truth but people don't care here, at /h/, where people sharing everything
>>4114529
>I already did that plenty of times.
Except you didn't. What makes your opinion valid when you didn't pay for it fuccboi
>>4114487
>not being spoiled and ungrateful for what you are watching for free.
>A - "Here's your plate of dogshit, on the house!"
>B - "I can't eat this it's shit!"
>A - "WHAT? IT'S FREE HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT MY MEAL YOU UNGRATEFUL SPOILED PIECE OF GARBAGE!"
>>4106445
Seriously, if it were animeted well (and not Queen Bee style 'well') then I would be WILLING to pay to download it...
Not this way though...25+ year old animations are lightyears ahead of what Queen Bee dishes out now.
>>4107129
>I believe they do this to stay somewhat true to the art style of the source
Lol, who animated Natsuyasumi? I know it's trap and all, but the animation flawlessly gave back the Po-Ju style...I know Natsuyasumi has no source manga (I wish it had), but it was explicitly stated that the animation would stay true to Po-Ju and BOY it did!
So why couldn't they ask the same studio to do Secret Journey? Like I said earlier, I would pay full price if it had good animation.
>>4114553
Spoiled piece of garbage? Why don't you try creating an hentai? The fact that you can't shows you can't do anything better than them. Queen Bee is not stupid enough to cater for pirates like you.
>>4114575
>>4114574
Who the fuck are you kidding? Why don't you try animating one of Queen Bee's title? You argument that you would pay for better animation is Invalid when you going to pirate it anyway. Also there's nothing you can do with low budget, but the fact that Queen Bee makes an effort is enough for them to be good. Is it their fault? No. We keep blaming them for being greedy but arent' we worse. Seriously.
>>4114465
MTSP has nothing to do with this. In fact, animation isn't even the reason why his anime plans failed. It has something to do with copyrights.
>>4114593
Nice clown, research more. We need 'fun' from you
get out europe
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>>4114593
>why don't you animate it
hahahaha this fag
>>4114465
>Look at MTSP Jin's comments
So, you have no proof that he was talking about Queen Bee after all. You're making a assumption. What you just said is completely invalid and useless then. Whats the exact point of saying this?
>>4114479
>He didn't name names but Queen Bee most likely did given their history of work.
Queen Bee has a history of staying close to the original as possible. How is that bad history? I'm pretty sure he would be more against other studios that would completely butcher his works rather than Queen Bee who is trying to help keep his work. It makes no sense as to why he would side more towards the people that would ruin his work.
>Their work gets poor treatment
Theres haters and poor treatment for everything in this world. Why does it matter? Queen Bee found a creative effective method based on their budget. They decide to try something new and it turns out successful. They make profit, they're able to animate more artist's works, More artist's work gets animated, they get more involved and get experience with animation, and fans are happy. So, tell me exactly why it matters?
Let's face it. Would any of the manga that got animated by Queen Bee so far,actually have a chance to be animated and picked up by some other studio? Their work will be turned into something worse considering it'll be butchered by some other studio. You should be glad that you at least got something.
>>4114504
>Let me get this right, we're not allowed to criticize work because we didn't pay for it but it's ok for you to say it's decent work yet you didn't either?
Adding fire to fire is completely pointless and useless. The consumers of the industry aren't you. Your criticism holds no value and has no use. Its just you complaining because you want to cry about it. You're pretty much crying about hentai that has nothing to do with you. Pathetic.
>>4114504
I'll continue on about you saying its ok for me to talk. Lets go over what is happening in this thread.
>People make false remarks and assumptions
>They insult the studio and show a lot of disrespect
>They're spoiled and selfish. Ungrateful for what they get for free
>The industry doesn't care about them
>They didn't spend a dime and they are watching it for free.
>They talk like they know the industry
How does that give them any right to talk? Heres what I'm trying to do in this thread
>Clear misunderstandings
>Explaining things
>Being understandable and looking at it from multiple's perspectives.
>Accepting what I get for free and not complaining about it.
>Telling spoiled faggots to shut the fuck up and accept they get for free.
Huge difference right there. I'm pretty sure have more of a good reason to be able to talk.
>>4114532
>Comparing an animation to Taco Bell.
>>4114553
Its funny how you're talking about accepting shit. You accept other studio completely butchering the original source. They give you a much inferior version of the original source and you accept it because the animation is good. Having good animation it means its okay to shit all over the original right?
>>4114911
Because queen bee i shit and i don't buy shit quality.
>>4114917
Oh, so you buy butchered shit instead? Nice. That is obviously a lot better.
I wonder whats worse? Supporting a studio that tries to keep the original content with sacrifices to satisfy artists and fans or studios that completely shit on the original content and do their own thing.
>>4114921
Every studio is better then queen bee.
>>4109712
They use the artist's covers to support them. Its all advertisement they give to the artist and they give their full support to those artists. Considering all their work is exact. Why would artists hate them? They're a great studio and for the price you get for the Queen Bee animation. You get what you paid for.
>>4114414
>warp picture a bit
>don't change lighting or anything to reflect movement
>animation itself would make 2006 zone look amazing
th-thanks queen bee
a-atleast you didn't do anything original, right?
MTSP is a circle. Jin is a artist of that circle and from what I know there were disagreements on how the payments to the circle would be split with Jin wanting to get all of it. It has nothing to do with the animation quality. Also MTSP's comments, he did say he don't want to talk about anime adaptations for a reason. Jin is a greedy cunt. His Tachibana-san series is vastly overrated.
>>4114935
It's the simple truth pretty easy to understand.
>>4114935
So, is this the best you guys can come up with? You can only just praise the studio because thats the only thing you can do. Nice.
>>4114935
People have given plenty of reasons, in this topic and many others, about why Queen Bee is a less than stellar studio. If you want to defend Queen Bee, how about posting some irrefutable positives about them instead of taking it out on the haters?
>>4114979
all he'll spout is how it copies the original style faithfully, neglecting to mention how it's neither original nor the fact that it butchers whatever work it's depicting with horrible animation
>>4114979
>all he'll spout is how it copies the original style faithfully, neglecting to mention how it's neither original
What...? Do you have any clue what you're writing?
>Copies original style faithfully
>Not mentioning that it isn't original
The thing is that it is. Its exactly panel by panel and the art isn't that different. If you see the comparisons they do at the credit. Its very close to the original.
>it butchers whatever work it's depicting with horrible animation
How...? That does not make sense at all. The original source doesn't even have animation in the first place. So, how does adding animation butcher it? You have sound added and animation. Thats already adding more to it.
>>4115045
Maybe if you stopped being so retarded and spoiled then I wouldn't be so mad.
>>4114935
You've just been repeating the same shit over and over kid. No one is going to waste their time arguing with you with your twisted logic.
>>4115049
>You've just been repeating the same shit over and over kid. No one is going to waste their time arguing with you with your twisted logic.
Whats my twisted logic here? and what exactly am I repeating over and over again? You guys ask the same questions so, why is it surprising that you would get the same answer?
>>4115049
Its also funny that you guys keep replying too so, you obviously want to waste your time arguing with me. I have a lot of time to educate you spoiled kids. Its not a big deal and I am having fun. Although explaining things to retarded people is kinda hard.
>>4115052
Maybe you should think for a second why that's happening and why you're getting so many responses. Maybe it's because you're completely dense in the head. But why would I expect someone with clear signs of autism to figure this out.
>>4115053
>Its also funny that you guys keep replying too so,
You replied to old posts starting up a conversation again that no one wanted. It's very obvious you have a lot of free time on your hand.
>>4115054
>Maybe you should think for a second why that's happening and why you're getting so many responses
Its the truth which is why people keep replying. Its hard to ignore the truth and they just deny it. People here aren't even give much of an argument to what I've said so far. They just say, its shit and then they're done. They complain about what I say and they complain more about the studio. It just repeats over and over again because they can't think of anything else against what I've said.
>Maybe you're dense
If I'm dense then why would you keep replying to someone dense? How exactly does that make sense...? This is clearly not the case. Nice try though.
>But why would I expect someone with clear signs of autism to figure this out.
I feel the same. Its hard educating retarded spoiled kids.
>>4115055
I do. I am having a lot of fun. Its the adult's job to educate the uneducated. I can spare a lot of time helping people out.
>>4115058
I think the only thing you're educating people are that Queen Bee fans can be just as autistic and defensive as Murakamifags, yet it's so strange when it's the opposite style of animation. I guess things at the far side of the spectrum do tend to attract extremists.
>>4115067
Being extremely offensive and defensive. Whats the exact difference? Most of these people in this thread is being offensive to chinese cartoon porn and you don't seem to comment anything about that. You're all of a sudden autistic if you're defensive but you're a mature and fine person if you be offensive. How does that work?
>>4115082
Is it your first day on 4chan? They're voicing an opinion that they don't like the animation, they aren't going off on a tangent about moral standings and the validity of it all like you are.
>>4115043
You completely mistook what I meant by original, of course
And more shit does not make anything better
Someone got a lot of spare times but not being grateful with time he had. Just want to waste with 'moral' lessons and 'advice'. Maybe you can do something more productive with your times instead spouting your facts, truths and calculations here.
>>4115090
He is, as you see that anon target 2 threads, this and Euphoria one. Weird is, he doesn't target the 3D hentai or small studio threads. He also copy paste some of his statements to other threads.
>>4115090
Ok, and I am voicing my opinion that I don't like their spoiled behavior. You can say, where do I think I am? I can say the same. What industry do you think you're complaining about?
>>4114979
>how about posting some irrefutable positives about them instead of taking it out on the haters?
>They stay close to the original content rather than butcher it for good animation
>They give free advertisement to the original artist
>They give full support to the artists
>The artist gets more involvement in animation compared to other studios
>More works get animated and don't get left out
>More work gets more popularity
>They satisfy fans who hate animation that butcher the original content and would rather prefer something that stay close to the original content
They have artists on their side and have fans. They make a profit. So, how exactly are they a shit studio? Just because they don't listen to your taste?
>>4116057
>They stay close to the original content rather than butcher it for good animation
Lots of studios are able to stay close without "butchering" If anything, queen bee's shitty animation butchers the original, making it feel completely different than the original in atmosphere.
>They give free advertisement to the original artist
Only problem is that their advertisement is shit. Their work is inferior to the original, and thus serves at a shit representation of the original.
>They give full support to the artists
most studios do that already
>The artist gets more involvement in animation compared to other studios
several days later you're still spouting out bullshit without citing shit. Maybe you should stop being retarded as fuck and misinterpreting "I'm hyped my work gets animated" with "I'm going to fully work together with the studio!"
>More works get animated and don't get left out
Also a reminder to the fans of the original that they will never get a nonshit adaptation because queen bee already did it
>More work gets more popularity
says who faggot
>They satisfy fans who hate animation that butcher the original content and would rather prefer something that stay close to the original content
yes, the autistic 1%. Maybe if you weren't a huge fucking retard, you would realize that most of the people on the thread here are fans of the original. And maybe if you weren't so fucking stupid you would realize the reason they are pissed is because the work they admired is now being butchered by queen bees sloppy animation. But since you're the idiot of the century, it's no surprise that you think butchering only comes in the form of "oh it was only 90% faithful rather than 99% faithful to the art, doesn't matter if atmosphere and mood is 0% faithful"
>>4116072
>Lots of studios are able to stay close without "butchering" If anything,
They don't.
>Only problem is that their advertisement is shit. Their work is inferior to the original, and thus serves at a shit representation of the
original.
You're not explaining how its inferior and if you find it shit. Its subjective. Its clearly working but you can't seem to see that.
>several days later you're still spouting out bullshit without citing shit. Maybe you should stop being retarded as fuck and misinterpreting "I'm hyped my work gets animated" with "I'm going to fully work together with the studio!"
The art is drawn by the original artist. Unless, you're telling me someone is drawing their art for them? Most animation's art is drawn by a different artist and the original art is gone. The original artist doesn't draw it.
>Also a reminder to the fans of the original that they will never get a nonshit adaptation because queen bee already did it
Its funny how you're fine with other studio completely butchering the original content. Those are the things you liked the original for and they threw it in the garbage. Nice.
>More work gets more popularity
Advertisement = Popularity. Animation is literally a advertisement to the original content. If more is made then more gets popular. You didn't know that? No one has to say it. Its plain obvious.
>yes, the autistic 1%
Spouting things out of your ass because you have nothing else to say. Just insulting the people who buy the products and are supporting their artist.
>Maybe if you weren't a huge fucking retard, you would realize that most of the people on the thread here are fans of the original.
Too bad your opinion doesn't matter and is completely useless since the Japanese don't even care about your opinion. Also, why are you fine with other studio butchering the original rather than a studio that stay close to it? Makes no sense. You're no fan at all.
>>4116072
>doesn't matter if atmosphere and mood is 0% faithful"
Its still there. If you don't see it then it doesn't mean its the same for other people. Its purely subjective. You're not even their audience anyways so, why exactly does your opinion matter? Stop crying to me.
>>4116072
>They give full support to the artist
>Uses the artist's art as the cover of the animation
>Stays very close to the artist's work
Most studios does this? It seems like most shit on the original work.
>>4116072
Also, not to mention. Theres a slim chance that the titles that got animated so far would get picked up other studio. They might not even get the chance of being animated. Most of the things Queen Bee animates are manga. Most hentai animation are originally eroges.
>>4116078
>They don't.
they do, fuck off retard
>You're not explaining how its inferior
we've been explaining it 20 some fucking times in this thread already. Queen bee chooses stuff like pisu hame that have very aggressive sex, something that their sloppy animation cannot reproduce because it is slow. People don't like queen bee because once they've seen it, they realize it doesnt match up to the original.
>The art is drawn by the original artist.
It was drawn already you fucking retard. Coloring in the original art and putting it into dephy doesn't fucking require the original artist to redraw things again you fucking retard.
>Most animation's art is drawn by a different artist and the original art is gone.
thats the process for most animation, its to make it not look fucking autistic, holy shit how stupid are you?
>Its funny how you're fine with other studio completely butchering the original content.
because we're not autistic like you. most people dont give a shit when small changes are made. that because thats not fucking butchering. Congrats, the adaptation doesn't match up line for line, and no one gives a shit because thats what you expect from animation. If thats "butchering" for you, have fun being autistic then
>Its still there
no it isn't you delusional twat. Queen bee is infamous for a reason, and its the aspect it cant match up to the original
>Most studios does this?
yes maybe if you watched more hentai you wouldnt be eating shit
>Theres a slim chance that the titles that got animated so far would get picked up other studio.
doesn't matter, to most people its better to have nothing at all than to have shit
>samefagging
getting desperate now are you?
>>4116100
>Queen bee chooses stuff like pisu hame that have very aggressive sex, something that their sloppy animation cannot reproduce because it is slow.
Subjective again. I read the manga and I watched it. I still saw the aggressive sex. It was rather more aggressive considering it had sound. The fact that it got adapted well and was panel by panel. That is rather something small. Like, I said before. Queen Bee's intentional is to stay close to the original. So, this is rather irrelevant. This doesn't even make sense at all as to why you're talking about this. Out of 20 titles they animated. You're nitpicking on one title and from one title they did. You come to the conclusion that all their work doesn't match up. Ok...?
>It was drawn already you fucking retard. Coloring in the original art and putting it into dephy doesn't fucking require the original artist to redraw things again you fucking retard.
Lets say you're right even though you have no proof backing it up but you're just making assumptions. It still doesn't change that more of the artist's work is involved.
>Queen bee is infamous for a reason, and its the aspect it cant match up to the original
Yes, says the foreign people whose opinion doesn't matter at all. Its infamous among a group of people that have no right to talk. They are so important.... The animation is animated panel by panel. Thats already matching up to the original. They added sound and animation. Already more than what the original has.
>doesn't matter, to most people its better to have nothing at all than to have shit
The thing is it doesn't matter to you because you're not gonna buy it nor do you matter. The artists are the ones that make the decisions. Not you.
>Samefagging
Um, how am I samefagging?
>>4116094
>>4116082
>>4116088
Those are mines. Its just because I forget to reply to more things.
>>4116100
And seriously. Your arguments aren't even good at all. You insult me in most of them. Lets count.
>You fucking retard (2)
>Holy shit how stupid are you?
>Because we're not autistic like you.
>Have fun being autistic
>You delusional twat
>You wouldn't be eating shit
>Getting desperate now are you?
At least back what you said well before you talk shit.
>it's no surprise that you think butchering only comes in the form of "oh it was only 90% faithful rather than 99% faithful to the art,
doesn't matter if atmosphere and mood is 0% faithful"
You don't seem to know what butchering means. Adding animation and sound isn't removing anything. Its adding more. How exactly does that not add more atmosphere and mood? and I don't see how you can even talk about the atmosphere and mood.
I highly doubt you actually even given time to watch Queen Bee's work considering the animation turns you off soo much and once you see the animation. You would just turn it off. How exactly can you form an opinion from that?
>>4116100
>we've been explaining it 20 some fucking times in this thread already.
Saying it has shit animation doesn't explain how its inferior to the original. Also, using the pisu hame example.
>Ctrl F
>Type Pisu Hame
Only one person said this.
>>4109671
So, how exactly is that explaining many times? and its not exactly explaining anything. It has its flaws. Thats just talking subjective. I already told you that Queen Bee isn't suppose to have good animation but to just focus on being close to the original. They did that. The original art is there and its panel by panel.
Also, to add. Subjectively, you don't like how the animation is extreme. Thats the only thing bad you can say about it but you're okay with other studio completely butchering the original source. Thats multiple things wrong but Queen Bee does a small thing wrong that isn't put in its high priority. Its considered shit and it doesn't work even though you get a much inferior version from other studios.
>>4116138
>Subjective again. I read the manga and I watched it.
and from the comments of everyone on multiple streaming sites, download sites and threads of /h/ we can consider you the retarded one out. When the vast majority regard it as an utter disappointment to the original, its pretty objective that it was bad. Thats what you get for putting in slow ass flash animation when everyone else is imagining hardcore sex.
>You're nitpicking on one title and from one title they did.
Pisu hame, tayu tayu, imako system, watashi toriko, should I go about and name half of their works? Seriously how fucking retarded are you? You have a manga with aggressive shit, why do you keep thinking slow ass flash animation could animate it?
>Lets say you're right even though you have no proof backing it up but you're just making assumptions.
I don't have to back it up you dumbass piece of shit. You're the one making stupid assumptions to begin with. You don't have evidence that theres a special involvement, and normally there isnt. And every one of queen bee's shows end up with a segment where they show them matching up with the ORIGINAL art, not fucking NEW art. Also there's literally no need for the artist to draw up new art, considering the source material is enough to work with.
>Yes, says the foreign people whose opinion doesn't matter at all.
all that damage control, "panel by panel" top fucking kek
>because you're not gonna buy it nor do you matter.
off course Im no going to buy shit. As for other companies on the other hand....
>Adding animation and sound isn't removing anything.
Yea I sure want to hear dog barking sounds on my porno. Sure just add fucking anything and the experience sure gets better!
>I highly doubt you actually even given time to watch Queen Bee's work
>You don't even buy it!
>you're a foreigner and your opinion doesnt even matter
all that damage control, as expected of a shiteater to resort to trying to devalue my opinion
>>4116161
strawman harder senpai i don't have enough hay for my horse
>>4116192
>and from the comments of everyone on multiple streaming sites, download sites and threads of /h/ we can consider you the retarded one out. When the vast majority regard it as an utter disappointment to the original, its pretty objective that it was bad. Thats what you get for putting in slow ass flash animation when everyone else is imagining hardcore sex.
Wow, What a coincidence that spoiled people from another website act the same. A real huge surprise and why would I care about their opinion when they can't even say much at all besides cry? A foreign's opinion matter to a Japanese industry why...?
>Pisu hame, tayu tayu, imako system, watashi toriko, should I go about and name half of their works? Seriously how fucking retarded are you? You have a manga with aggressive shit, why do you keep thinking slow ass flash animation could animate it?
Those other title are totally fine. I'm not sure what you're going on. This is rather subjective again. Why should I care that you prefer something? and like I said, Its irrelevant. Queen Bee's intentional is to stay close to the original and that did exactly that. Their job is done. And for someone who hates Queen Bee. You watched all those? otherwise you wouldn't be able to form an opinion on that.
>I don't have to back it up you dumbass piece of shit.
Ok, so you can't talk after all.
>all that damage control, "panel by panel" top fucking kek
Are you this mad that your opinion has no value? You're the one here swearing at me. Why are you so salty?
>off course Im no going to buy shit.
Then why are you talking?
>all that damage control, as expected of a shiteater to resort to trying to devalue my opinion
Again complaining what I said because you can't say anything against it. You know its the truth. Your opinion has no value. Why is it so complicated? and why is it so hard to argue against it?
>>4116192
>When the vast majority regard it as an utter disappointment to the original, its pretty objective that it was bad.
You expect me to believe the words from you? I would like some proof. Considering what happened below. I'm just gonna assume you're making shit up. You can't back it up.
>>4116100
>we've been explaining it 20 some fucking times in this thread already.
Saying it has shit animation doesn't explain how its inferior to the original. Also, using the pisu hame example.
>Ctrl F
>Type Pisu Hame
Only one person said this.
Also, the fact that you have no comment on this
>>4116141
Means its the truth. I argued against everything you said so far. You ignored many things I've said. I can already see where this is going.
>>4116235
>wahh I don't like people telling me muh shit taste is shit! Everything is opinions!
alright then.You can regard your shit as good and we'll proceed to regard it as shit
>>4116235
can't fucking read can you? slow ass flash animation cannot recreate the intensity of aggressive hardcore sex scenes.
>>4116235
then why you here again ?
you mad with hentai board and tried to talk about moral ?
[spoiler]you mad with hentai board ?[/spoiler]
>artist directly chooses which studio to work with
>artist works directly with queen bee and draws panels for them
holy shit why the fuck are queen bee shills so fucking desperate to justify their shit? Seriously, are you guys that delusional that you start making up lies to defend this crap? What are you going to say next? The artists love queen bee soo much that they give daily blowjobs to the stuido?
Holy fuck this thread
Secret Journey is genuinely one of my all time favorite doujins.... but I never thought it would get animated due to all the SS stuff and the sexy monkey female MC. Then I glimpse poju's art on Getchu and I am Fucking floored happy finding out it's getting an animation. Then my eyes find the Queen Bee tag..... oh my fucking god... why, this had so much fucking potential. And hentai isn't like the X-files where they can just reboot it after 15 years... We have LITERALLY lost our only chance EVER to get a quality Secret Journey animation.... fml
