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Hero or meme?
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he's a fucking retard
>>54256332
Like Obama said, "If he isn't a traitor then why is he afraid to come back?"
>>54256332
it fucking triggers me how he wears his glasses.
meme hero
Attention whore
Meme hero. Almost everyone with half a brain new that people are spied upon by the government, he just provided the proof.
All I know is the documentary they made on him was abysmal. I wish the reporters had contacted a half-decent producer/director/editor
>>54256435
>confirmed everyones suspicion
>calls him a meme
hes a whistleblower. Also retarded
>>54256379
Because he will be treated like one
>>54256379
If you have nothing to hide, why are you afraid of installing Windows 10?
>>54256511
Because MacOS is superior.
>>54256332
Hero.
>>54256332
Like RMS said:
"Please consider whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example."
History needs the brave guys.
>>54256379
> If he isn't a traitor then why is he afraid to come back?
Because the US aren't a nice and fair place.
>>54256332
fuck off snowden. You're not welcome here anymore
Hero!
>>54256577
Only /g/ response here
Why does neo pol leak all over 4chan
What happened to the 4chan that loved freedom?
>>54256646
they love their anime and dragon dildos more
>>54256379
don't forget that Manning was given a fair trial
>>54256332
Hero
>Blows whistle
>Shitstorm
>Can't even go out to the mall and get eyeglass frames properly straightened.
>>54256695
"Manning given a fair trial"
Top wew bro
>>54256695
>Manning was given a fair trial
kek'd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSAiI3xMh4 ima see this shit in theaters, he snuck a mico sd into the nsa headquarters by hiding it in a rubiks cube, EPIC
>>54256379
He doesn't want a secret trial where there's a gag order on everything. He would want to defend his position that he was morally in the right to do it so the public would sway the case to his side and he would get a shorter sentence. Also, he might get tortured like Manning.
>>54256908
And no damn torrents yet
>>54256998
>>54256695
Believing the mentally ill makes you mentally ill.
>>54256908
dat win7 doe
> Russian spy*
Ftfy
>>54256908
I'm glad Cage is still getting work
>>54256332
his glasses are fucking crooked
how does he handle that? I would fucking go insane
Traitor. He could have applied for whistleblower protection in the U.S. but instead fled to China and Russia so yes he's a traitor and probably sold secrets to them
>>54258163
Whistleblower protection in the US is only for corporate whistleblowers. Those that leak government secrets fall under the anti-spying laws which basically state that said person can get locked away in a dark hole for the rest of his life.
>>54258192
Source?
>>54258163
I have no doubt that he was in contact with enemy authorities before he went public with the information. Of course by 'enemy' I mean enemy of the US.
>Does immeasurable damage to US national security, puts millions of lives at risk
>Justifies it with "but the evil government might read your emails!!!!!!"
>Flees to America's two greatest enemies and gets a cushy, worry free life in Moscow
I can't wait for when that guy takes one step out of Russia and gets taken out by a drone with his name on it.
>>54256332
Professional Actor playing a role.
>>54256332
Neither.
>>54258578
Nobody died because of the information Snowden released.
You like being spied on? Anime faggot
>>54256379
>2016
>still listening to Obama
>>54256332
He's definitely important, the NSA and the CIA want his ass really badddd.
>>54259046
yeah, so they can cover *their* asses
>>54258578
>does immeasurable damage to US national security
He leaked everything to journalists. You're argument shiuld be that the editors of the world's largest newspapers should be locked up.
>>54258451
>he was in contact with the enemy
There is no proof of this. Any rational human requires proof to hold an idea. Not only is there no proof that he was a "Chinese... er, no, wait, i mean Russian" spy, the circumstantial evidence shows quite the opposite. After being forced out of Hong Kong, he had was on his way to Soutg America when the State Department revokes his passport. Without a passport, he legally couldn't leave Russia. The State Department trapped him in Russia and then accused him of being a Russian spy. How the hell is there any logic in that?
>>54258192
>>54258355
There are whistleblower protections for government employees, but there are no such protections for government contractors, which Snowden was. A curious loop hole.
Not that it matters. Everyone who tried to come out against the NSA through official channels had their lives ruined. Bill Bennie, a 30 year veteran of the NSA and the lead architect behind most of the programs, was dragged through a decade of criminal charges that were all dropped. He works at an Apple store in Virginia now...
>>54259077
Asshole
>>54259142
low info Negro
weeaboo
A veteran of memetics wars.
>>54258578
>Does immeasurable damage to US national security, puts millions of lives at risk
Ciatiation fucking needed MR. NSA
Prism and NSA spying has done fuck all to combat terrorism only trampled on our rights, literally everyone with half a brain knows htis/
>Justifies it with "but the evil government might read your emails!!!!!!"
well yes, I do not in fact want the evil government reading my emails. Problem?
>Flees to America's two greatest enemies and gets a cushy, worry free life in Moscow
Well, it's not really his fault america has such abhorrent whistle-blower protection laws. And considering most the world is america's bitch he could hardly just go to some more enlightened country that's interested in liberty....
Also
>Flees to America's two greatest enemies
ISIS or Al Queda?
I thought he fled to Russia? Or did you just get out of a coma, and assume he fled to the USSR, and it's the year 1962?
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the meme.
Traitor obviously
>/pol/ has infested this board to the point there are posters who unironically think Snowden did anything wrong
>>54259271
You sound like such a self entitled little bitch
>>54256332
Fucking traitor. He doesn't get to be the good guy when he leaves to a competing country that has a history of being less than friendly with the USA. He should be brought back and shot on live television.
I'm not a big fan of government spying, but I'm also not a fan of basically defectors that run to a a cold enemys country and tell them who knows what.
He should be classed as a deserter, and it should be a big fucking deal if another country harbors him.
Traitor
Trump has even called for his death. Look it up
>>54259494
moot should never have brought that board back
>>54256332
meme
And sadly a pawn of anti USA/"West" propaganda.
Based hero
>>54257086
While that statements i true. Who decides who is mentally ill and not. Likewise if everybody was mentally ill nobody would be mentally ill. Mental illness is entirely subjective.
>>54256332
>Whiny faggotniggernerd leks 18 gorrillion documents.
>a whole 14 of them shown to the public
>most of them are shitty powerpoint presentation
>many (of the 14) released to public redacted up in the ass
>people believe something huge happened
>AAAHHAHAHAHAAA-FAGOTT.gif
Why are you peple so naiive? He hasn't put up anything but hot air. You've been scammed!
>>54260028
This is an anonymous board. There's no need to attach a picture of yourself to your posts.
>>54260028
Great counterarguement kid
+1 upboat.
>>54260124
Which country do you recommend he seek asylum in?
Prior to leaving HK, he deleted his copy of the documents. There's no way he could have given them anything.
>he's a traitor
>he's a spy for [our ENEMY]
>he's mentally ill
>he has blood on his hands
They used the same playbook against Ellsberg, who is now widely regarded to be a hero. History will be kind to Snowden.
>>54256332
what
>>54256379
>Step in american soil
>Men in black capture you
>Free ticket to Cuba
>Spend rest of life in Guantanamo
Yeah. That sounds like a great deal. I wouldn't want to fuck my wife all day and speak to the media all night, I'd rather be locked with Mohamed and his friends in Cuba.
>>54260738
History will forget him because he is a meme
>>54256332
You life is a meme
>>54256332
One of his ears is lower than the other.
He needs to tweak his frames a bit.
>>54256332
>crooked glasses
How to fix this desu?
>>54259271
He didn't flee to Russia. He was grabbing a connecting flight to Equador when the US cancelled his passport, making it legally impossible for him to leave Russia. This is the reason he sat in terminal F at the Moscow airport for a month. He couldn't enter Russia without a VISA and he couldn't leave on a flight without a valid passport.
The absurdity of the State Department insinuating that Snowden is a Russian spy, when they are responsible for him being stuck there, is bizarre.
>>54256379
Daniel Ellsberg agreed that Snowden made the right decision to flee. Despite being "the most transparent administration in history," Obama has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all previous Presidents combined. He is the last person to speak with authority on the issue.
>>54260853
He was responsible for exposing the largest Constitutional violation in history. There's no way he's written off.
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>>54260909
>the largest Constitutional violation in history
You don't know your history if you really believe that
>>54261041
The government secretly collecting the communications and records of every American certainly ranks pretty high on the list of violations.
>>54256332
Trump think he is a traitor
>>54256332
Movie based on him when
>>54261075
Slavery is probably the biggest though
victim of russian intelligence operation
>>54256379
"Why do North Koreans not come back for a fair trial?"
>>54261112
Under the modern interpretation of the Constitution, you're probably right.
>>54261124
Read the thread. He had a layover in Russia and the State Department cancelled his passport before he could leave. He's only in Russia because the US wants him there.
>>54261191
>He had a layover in Russia and the State Department cancelled his passport before he could leave. He's only in Russia because the US wants him there.
wikileaks 'guided' him to russia in the first place. i doubt he was a russian spy or whatever, but russian intelligence definitely wanted him.
>>54261273
Wikileaks worked out a deal with Equador. He was on his way there when his passport was revoked.
In any case, he destroyed his copies in Hong Kong after giving them to Greenwald and co.
A REAL MEME AND A REAL HERO
snowden pls go
>>54256379
He asked for a fair trial, and the US government told him they would not torture him.
I-I think he's kinda cute
>>54256382
it is because his ears are not even
he made me hate americans more than mudslimes
one 9/11 wasn't enough
>>54256332
traitor and liar. not saying anything he released is a lie but rather that he lied when he signed his confidentiality agreement. personal morals have no place in the work place. it's no different than the lady from that one post in the tech horror stories thread, who was a repair tech, who had been quietly deleting customers nude pics/homemade porn because such things are "immoral". the problem is where do you draw the line, morality can be twisted to justify anything
>>54262098
He swore an oath to defend the constitution against all threats foreign and domestic. He carried out that oath and is now labeled a traitor.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
>>54262144
he also swore an oath and signed papers acknowledging that he had a duty to uphold the national secrets act and keep his fucking mouth shut, instead of warning every foreign agent in existence that the gubment is watching them
>>54256332
chaotic good
renegade
ITS HAPPENING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSAiI3xMh4
>>54262311
>movie actually looks pretty decent
>>54256556
As in horse shit is superior to dog shit.
>>54256646
Moved on to bigger better things when pol decided they were 1337 and the cool kids, who hated us for liking anime and math in school, moved in.
>gentoo is literally now a meme
>free software is ironically shitposted all over the web
>animefags are attcked on g
>win10 shills every day
>NSA watches g all day long, but more for a quick laugh than any serious profiling.
>>54262175
Rule of Law dictates that loyalty to a Constitution abregates any loyalty to an agency or law.
It's no secret that the NSA was spying on terrorists or foreign government, that's their mandate. The thing we learned from Snowden was that their surveillance included invasion measures against entire domestic and foreign populations. The security agencies of foreign governments all have treaties with the NSA which gave them some clue as to the scope.
It was the populations that the NSA were hiding their activities from. For the government to secretly reinterpret laws and spy on entire populations without the consent of the public is a gross misuse of power. Afterall, the government derives its legitimacy from the consent of the governed, democracy is meaningless if that consent is not informed.
pretty based imo
>>54256695
>Le america le land of le free and le home of le brave
>Manning is put in solidarity confinement
>Everyone who is involved in the trial is a government shrill
>Fair trial
>>54262175
>2016
>Swearing oath
Wow, America is more fucked up than I thought possible
>>54262353
kek
Hero
Lol@ all these plebs who defend him because of some ideals
What happened to the ideal of basic loyalty? You don't try to undermine your own country just for lulz. That's too far.
He's a traitor who would sell his own mother if it would make him famous.
Stop talking about him. This is what he wanted, just like mass shooter spergs.
>>54263806
>loyalty
His ultimate loyalty, as should be every citizen's, lays with the Constitution of the country, not the government that is in power. This is the reason that service members swear an oath to "defend the Constitution from enemies both foreign and domestic."
>He exposes that the gubberment are untrustworthy and shifty as fuck.
>They want him to trust them for a fair trail?
keks all round. You might as well ask Kim Dotcom to go to the US for a holiday. It looks likely he will be forced to go there anyhow if New Zealand sucks Obama's cock.
>>54256332
CIA shill
>>54263806
I think Donald Trump is waiting for his blowjob.
>>54256332
Hero of Memes
>did absolutely nothing good
>regarded as hero
>>54263806
Isn't MUH COUNTRY the citizens and not despots and secret police employees who take away rights from the citizens?
>>54257068
Nigga the release isn't until Sept so don't expect any torrents until October
>>54256332
heroic meme
>>54263177
This. Without whistleblowers it is impossible to have a functioning democracy.
The Constitution supersedes every other law. If the NSA wants to spy on citizens without a warrant legally, they need to pass an amendment to get rid of our 4th amendment rights.
>>54256435
You mean "conspiracy theorists" knew they were being monitored.
He turned into an SJW and normies never cared about what he leaked anyway. He ruined his life for nothing. (or he's a "limited hangout")
MEME
>>54256332
Soros shill who compromised sensitive documents haphazardly instead of exposing them in a controlled manner
>>54263806
The NSA was undermining its own country. The traitors are the ones allowing the government blatantly violate the constitution.
There is a big difference between being patriotic, and supporting everything your government does. It would have been traitorous for him to not leak what he did.
>>54264748
In the conversations I have, people still don't believe the government is doing half the things Snowden proved they were. When confronted with specific program names and documents, the conversation delves into "nothing to hide", which is a red herring as the real issue is: do you want to live in a country where the government knows everything about everyone all the time.
Traitor
>>54260909
can you post where you heard about snowden not having a passport. I want to read more on this, I didnt actually follow this story in 2013.
>>54264806
"Saying that you have no need for privacy because you have nothing to hide is just as absurd as saying that you don't need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."
>>54264771
>haphazardly
>gives them to the largest news agencies in the world with explicit instructions to carefully publish only what is in the best interest of the public
Daily reminder that the government pays people to spread FUD on internet forums under their JTRIG program.
>>54264840
A good documentary is "Terminal F". Its on YouTube for free and covers things quite nicely with interviews from both sides.
>>54264866
That is a very apt quote from Snowden. Another key point is that privacy is really the backbone of every other right. There's no freedom of association if you're worried about being judged, no freedom of speech if you have no creative realm to formulate your ideas, etc.
>>54264895
thanks, Ill look into that. Interesting stuff.
>>54264184
Do you think that the government should be able to continue violating your 4th amendment rights in secret?
>>54256332
Im currently watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOksJKfapVM
>>54262719
>because I like le anime, and did le math in school, because math is for snowflakes liek me xDlolololok
You're not even wanted. Kill yourself, you tryhard, redditiering, shitstain.
>>54263806
>loyalty to a place just cause you were born there
yeah, fuck off
I like it here in America but I don't have to be blindly allegiant to any country.
>>54264906
Here is a decent summary:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/23/edward-snowden-gchq
The US claims that they cancelled his passport prior to the flight, but there's never been any evidence of this. The US was strongly pressuring HK to arrest him. In the extradition petition, the US used the wrong middle name, so HK used this as an excuse to stall long enough to get him out of the country. HK was caught in a tug-of-war between Beijing and DC over the issue and letting him leave on a pretext seemed to be the only sensible route.
>>54263946
>>54264142
>>54264198
>>54264773
>muh constitutional
>muh freedumbs
fuck off lolbertarians, you're not important enough, national security is.
>>54265001
If you value national security over personal liberties you are not an American.
>>54260345
Hey, don't insult Cha Ka, he had nothing to do with this retard
>>54265001
>giving up privacy will make the nation safer
Look how well it worked for the Soviet union, China and NK.
>>54265001
>rights of the state are more important than rights of the individual
Sure is tyranny in here.
The state derives it's power from the consent of the populace, so to argue that the state is more important is ludicrous and would only hold water in your average third-world tyranny.
We could also argue about what "national security" is. Or for that matter, what "terrorism" is, as it only seems to mean "when the brown people attack us."
>>54265001
If we don't have rights we are not in America any more.
>>54256332
The movie looks pretty cheesy. I'd watch it.
>>54259397
My fucking sides
>>54264198
>>54265197
You don't need to be some libertarian idiot to see that giving up your rights is a bad idea. Privacy is essential for freedom of speech and the latter is the foundation of every democracy.
>>54257398
The US got him stuck in Russia. He had no intention of staying there. The US revoked his passport.
Also, he destroyed his copies of the documents before he ever got to Russia.
>>54256332
Mostly meme.
Started with a noble cause... and then started giving valuable information to the Russians... who will totally use that information for good.
Why escape to Russia of all places?
>>54256332
This is what happens when you dont install w10
>>54256695
>Manning
does anyone else think that the military forced manning to transition to a girl as a form of a punishment, and he is forced to go along with it under the thread of something even more sinister happening.. like if he tells the news that he was forced to do this they would kill his family.
>>54265278
He has not given anything to the Russians. The US got him stuck there. He was trying to fly from Russia to other countries for protection when the US revoked his passport.
>>54265240
democracy is a lie. you have no rights or privacy and never did. all your convictions and ethics are a fabrication created to mystify and sedate you. the state has absolute authority over you and always will.
>>54265278
>giving valuable information to the Russians
Like what? Do you really think that they didn't know about PRISM? Conspiracytards and normal people expected it long ago, do you think a state funded agency couldn't do it?
>Why escape to Russia of all places?
What other country would you recommend, that wouldn't ship him out to Burgers?
>>54256908
fuggin ebik
>>54265324
#420
>>54262175
>instead of warning every foreign agent in existence that the gubment is watching them
so you are telling me that the average American knows more about the world than foreign agents trained to navigate another country and get by without being detected by that other country's gubment?
Meme
Did the right thing, but at best, an hero because he was a faggot how he did it
>>54265278
What valuable information has he given to Russia?
>>54265278
the shills are out in force today
>>54265383
People that try to do it the legal way get shut up. He saw what happened to Thomas Drake, Bill Binnie, and others. He really couldn't have done it in any other way.
The government needs to be drastically modified to support whistleblowers to bring back that check and balance.
>>54265414
Just fuck Snowden if you like him so much. He is a traitor and should be imprisoned for life.
>>54265438
$0.10 deposited
>>54265445
You wish, of all people.
>>54262175
>against all threats foreign and domestic
>against all threats foreign and domestic
>against all th reats foreign and domestic
>against all threats foreign and domestic
>against all threats foreign and domestic
>against all thre ats foreign and domestic
>against all threats foreign and domesti c
You seem like you dont understand what this means
>>54265298
The UN has already declared that his treatment amounts to torture. It wouldn't surprise me. A key attack vector for the government is proving the source of the leak is mentally ill or has some other off-putting characteristic.
>>54265324
>the state has absolute authority and always will
Of course it will, if people like you are content to throw their ass in the air and surrender.
>>54265438
JTRIG, pls go
>>54265457
>he does it for free
>>54265469
>Of course it will, if people like you are content to throw their ass in the air and surrender.
insolence isn't sufficient substitute for power
>>54265469
I dont know much about the situation.. all I know is that the news says he gave info to the bad guys, and then he was put in a military jail, found guilty, and now is still in military jail, then a few months later it breaks that he is "trans" and then pictures of him driving around in a wig pop up and for some reason he is rolling with it.
That is literally as indepth as my knowledge goes, what has been done that is torture and what mystery vectors are doing what here?
>>54265515
To suggest that revolution is impossible would be to ignore the bulk of history.
>>54265543
Prior to being convicted he was held in solitary confinement indefinitely, as well as striped naked at night and a few other things. His treatment was purely punitive.
https://www.rt.com/usa/214303-usa-manning-torture-relatives/
>>54265001
The NSA has not stopped a single terrorist attack.
>Clapper: Snowden disclosures sped up adoption of strong encryption by about 7 years, according to NSA analysis
>Snowden: Of all the things I've been accused of, this is the one of which I am most proud.
>>54265648
B-but I feel safe when my big brother watches me!
>>54265618
Every revolution that has ever occured has resulted in a state that is far more repressive than the one it replaced, which then inevitably collapses or morphs into a state which is hardly different from the one it replaced at all.
That isn't counting seperatist "revolutions", in which the old systems of the state are basically preserved entirely.
But yes, if you overthrow the state and then put yourself in charge of the new state, then you are free. Good luck competing with the rest of us to get there.
>>54265648
LIES!!!
The mass surveillance system identified a taxi driver who donated 8,000 dollars to daesh!!!
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/10/nsa-spying-did-not-result-in-one-stopped-terrorist-plot-and-the-government-actually-did-spy-on-the-bad-guys-before-911.html
In the larger scheme of things, the FBI's method of conduction "terrorism" stings also deserves scrutiny. They basically find mentally ill or down-and-out 18-23 year olds, send in an informant who prods them towards terrorism, then swoop in at the last minute and "save the day." These sort of "stings" account for 90-95% of all terrorism convictions in the US.
>>54265665
"It's only revolution when it fits my definition of it", said anon, who is allowed to post it on a mongolian basket weaving exchange thanks to a revolution.
>>54265682
And that is not even a terrorist attack.
>>54265688
>who is allowed to post it on a mongolian basket weaving exchange thanks to a revolution.
Really? I'm pretty sure there are british 4chan posters.
But I guess you believe that the american revolution created our modern concept of freedom of speech, did so alone, and did so completely.
>>54265692
The FBI admitted that the donation was made more in support of his tribe than any terroristic ambition.
>>54265731
Britbongs had their own revolutions, just like entire Europe. Have you ever heard of that thing called democracy?
>>54265755
Oh right, democracy. The english civil, war, the glorious revolution. These things whose substantive effect was the expansion of state persecution of catholics. What a great victory for the rights of man.
>>54265790
Which lead to religious freedom for almost everybody in the long run. Nobody said that the path to progress is clean and nice, but these days we live in a much better world thanks to that, so I'd say it was worth it.
I want to fuck his cute little ass so bad.
>>54260738
Pajeet here; I'm ashamed that my country refused asylum to Snowden when he requested it.
>>54256382
>>54262047
time and use can also bend the frame out of shape.. what happened to my specs.
>>54256379
Did Obama seriously say this? Jesus that's depressing. He's literally a black man. He should no better than anyone the feeling of running from the cops even if you did nothing wrong. They're corrupt, they're scary, and they enjoy hurting people. Government are just super cops.
>>54265824
No, shifting cultural attitudes lead to religious freedom for almost everybody in the long run. Just like shifting cultural attitudes are the only reason so many people defend your right to encrypted loli hentai. Revolution has nothing to do with it. Rights have nothing to do with it. Your rights go so far as society is willing to tolerate your behavior, and the state will interpret the law as it needs to to suit it's aims, which change with the culture and problems of the day.
>>54264943
If you don't like math then why the fuck are you here? Ruining /g/ basically tbqh familia.
>>54265898
>shifting cultural attitudes
So cultural revolutions?
>>54265897
John Kerry said he needed to "man up" and come back. These are the same people who shield US politicians from war crimes tribunals. Hypocrisy?
>>54265682
Why the government didn't purge the mudslime instead? It's cheaper, and very effective.
>>54265828
How bad?~
>>54265956
>very effective
If the last 15 years has taught us anything, it's that blunt force isn't an effective tool against extremists.
>>54265445
the irony of this image is astounding
>>54262719
Real man. Fucking authoritarian right and left wing normies everywhere.
I guess it's a generational thing.
We loved the freedom of the wild west internet days and they love the government spying on all their Shit.
Different strokes I guess.
Still can't shrug off how cancerous it is.
>people are memes now
>>54265969
That's not very impressive. Good thing I'm like 90% bottom.
>>54265928
These are the same people who execute Americans with drones by executive order when they feel like it.
>>54256435
So people who weren't considered crazy conspiracy theorists believed in the NSA passively collected information on all people in the US without a warrant with the explanation of "it isn't a search until a person actively looks at the data," let alone the extent that the data collection and storage went to? For those unaware, here are a few of the databases that the NSA has:
>XKeyscore
Stores any data sent over the internet that isn't encrypted such as your searches, emails, posts, etc. for 3-5 days.
>MARINA
Stores metadata for all internet traffic. Possibly including HTTP headers so your entire internet history down to the pages you visited for every website you visit that doesn't use HTTPS and just the more general history of what website if the website does support HTTPS. Stores data for 1 year.
>MAINWAY
Stores metadata related to phonecalls such as caller, receiver, date/time of call, length of call, etc. for 5 year.
>DISHFIRE
Stores text messages for 1 or more years.
>FASCIA
Metadata about cellphone connections to cell towers, basically giving them a map of your travels. Stores data for an unknown amount of time.
>>54256332
meme hero
>>54265445
What's this picture from?
>>54264943
>No math ability
>Hates anime
>Posts all day on math board on anime website about how he hates both
Damn man
I'm so sorry you didn't get enough oxygen in the womb.
>>54266091
My private collection.
>>54266096
>Anime website
/g/ - Technology
Anime focused boards are a minority.
Your cartoon obsession doesn't extend to the whole site.
>>54258122
He isn't autistic
>>54256379
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>>54265438
So many communists and JTRIG in this thread, when did everything went so wrong?
Well, at least we aren't like leddit yet, the majority there attack anyone who promotes privacy/encryption/foss
>>54266029
Yep. It is kind of sad to recognize that societal/generational changes have led to a country that's perfectly fine with government filling the roll of a parental figure throughout most aspects of a person's non-sexual life (detractors used to [and still do] call this 'nanny-statism'). The freedom that the 'wild west' represented is long gone, unfortunately. I thought the Internet might represent it (and for a decade or so, it did), but now we have societal pressures exerted even onto 4chan (see the g4m3r5g4t3-related shit that happened to /v/ 2 years ago) to not allow the free-form anything goes way of life.
There's no frontier left for malcontents, individualists, outsiders, and classical (small L) liberals to retreat to anymore.
But then, I suppose cancer always wins in the end. Remissions happen here and there, but they are never really permanent.
>>54266132
This website was started to discuss anime and all boards throughout their histories have always been frequented by anime fans. You are on the wrong website if you hate anime. It literally is a weeb sanctuary. That's like going on tumblr and complaining about sjw culture. Fuck off you fucking outsider.
>There's no frontier left for malcontents, individualists, outsiders, and classical (small L) liberals to retreat to anymore.
There is room, but it takes sacrifice, effort, and loss to achieve some of these goals if your goal is to leave a lasting legacy. Otherwise, just be content with being malcontent on your own.
>>54266246
For the most part, I am. I'm relatively stoic about everything in life, including the fact that a significant majority of my generation don't feel the same way about things that I do, and are also empowered in our Democratic society to get their way. Ultimately it doesn't really effect me all *that much*.
At the same time, though, there are occasional pings of sadness in recognizing that large issues are not the way I would prefer them, and that I am powerless to change them. The best I can do is to retreat to my own inner citadel (to borrow Berlin's metaphor) and keep it tidy.
>>54266175
>>54266175
Feels bad man.
This new crowd is so anti liberty.
Nice to see some oldschool /g/.
>>54266147
>communists
Could you fucking not? Communism theories say nothing about giving up privacy and free speech. Big state =/= big brother.
>>54266298
I feel about the same anon... time to take care of your own and forget the rest of the idiots. Be happy with what you have and have a good life while it lasts. That is probably the best most of us can do.
>>54256332
Hero. I'll be sad when he gets mysteriously shot by unidentified men in black suits and American accents.
>>54264773
agree with this
>>54257617
My thoughts exactly. Hopefully the one true god will continue to land good roles
>>54266175
>I thought the Internet might represent it (and for a decade or so, it did), but now we have societal pressures exerted even onto 4chan (see the g4m3r5g4t3-related shit that happened to /v/ 2 years ago) to not allow the free-form anything goes way of life.
>Libertarian who doesn't understand the idea of private property.
Holy shit that's beautiful.
>>54267037
The fuck are you on about now?
>>54267037
I get that 4chan is not a public forum, and is privately owned, and that (at the time) Moot had full say over anything he wanted to take down.
That said, 4chan, for a time, *did* represent a free-for-all, anything goes board that was free from any real significant moderation. That changed over the years, and that change (to my eyes, anyways) climaxed in what happened over at /v/ 2 years ago.
I have no desire to get into a discussion of whether that was or was not appropriate. But it did represent a change in the norms of the 4chan community (to the extent you can even call 4chan a community).
>>54267081
Yeah it didn't even feel that long ago. Damn things change fast.
>>54256908
>snuck
>>54267081
Yeah, all things must come to an end. We did live in the golden era of the internet, take pride in that.
The current thin skinned generation already cannot fathom someone calling them a faggot online being the norm.
>>54266225
It's not 2005 anymore grandpa, stop trying to justify your disgusting habits.
>>54266225
Us normies run this place now! I've never even watched an anime besides pokemon! Haha! I'm posting from my macbook while in bed with my gf!
Americans have the second amendment in case the government exceeds it's mandate and shits on the constitution.
So Snowden took it easy on them. Hero.
>>54268414
Additionaly: a government that does not even try to abide by the law or the mandate of the people has lost it's legitimacy.
>200 posts and not one mention of William Binney
Snowden did what he did because of what happened to Binney, and if you think he's a traitor you should see the day to day harassment Binney receives for trying to do the legal route.
Was paid 100k per year just to keep secrets and he couldn't even do that. He isn't a traitor or a hero, he is just unprofessional.
>>54256332
$ellout.
Rat.
Traitor.
>>54268354
You're proud to be a macfag but not a weeaboo, go trim your neckbeard homo.
>>54268683
Kek, the papers he signed also say that he needs to say something if the orders he receives are illegal
Stuck between a rock and a hard place right there
>>54256332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koJlIGDImiU
>Total fatalities per year caused by terrorism in the US: 18
>450 people per year die from falling out of their beds in US
>Heart disease: 614,348
>Cancer: 591,699
>Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 147,101
>Accidents (unintentional injuries): 136,053
>Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 133,103
>Alzheimer's disease: 93,541
>Diabetes: 76,488
>Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,227
>Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 48,146
>Intentional self-harm (suicide): 42,773
Why are you so afraid of terrorism? You literally have a better chance of winning the lottery
>>54269465
People who live in padded rooms typically don't shoot themselves, either. Doesn't mean that you want flood the room with guns.
>>54269486
And yet the year before 9/11 there were 0 deaths from terrorism in the US, the security ramp up did nothing
YOU CANNOT SIT DEFEND MASS SURVEILLANCE
REEEE
>>54269498
I wasn't suggesting a security ramp up. I was simply stating the problem with your logic.
I'm for strong border controls, but a great amount of freedom for individual citizens within the nation.
Let the citizens take care of themselves by conceal carrying.
>>54269465
It's a about a culture of fear.
If people are afraid, you can do a lot of shit without anybody speaking up..
But hey, look at Turkey or Russia.. it's always the same shit.
>some illiterate fuck kills a few people
>WE CANNOT TOLLERATE THIS !
>FROM NOW ON YOU HAVE NO RIGHT !
>THIS IS N-E-C-E-S-S-A-R-Y FOR YOUR S-A-F-E-T-Y
>COMPLY OR YOU ARE THE TERRORIST
Liberal shitstain and traitor
>>54265928
Politicians and the state are not your friends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc
>>54269629
>Revealing your governments unconstitutional activities
>Traitorous
That's the most American thing you can do m8
>>54269668
>>unconstitutional activities
Try again pedo
>>54269679
>implying pedo porn shouldn't be protected by the constitution
lol
>>54269683
Typical weirdo arguing for privacy.
Good thing normies believe in nothing to hide nothing to fear
>>54269707
We should live in glass houses and walk around naked, tbqh
>>54269721
>still using such shitty analogies
>>54269730
>it's a perfect analogy
>"it's a shitty analogy"
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear m8
Let's see that weiner
>>54269679
Hate to break it to you, but it's been proven it the court of law that the NSA is breaking the constitution
Look up William Binney, you obviously don't know much about this topic
>>54269733
Nope it's shit. Try again ;^)
>>54269747
I elect to politely decline, instead. Good day, sir.
>>54256511
No one has nothing to hide.
>>54270620
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxFQrBKk6gE
>>54256379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MV9uWwCvOqw
>>54265898
>forgetting about the American Revolution, where we fought to get out from out from under Britain's foot (so revolution WAS the point)
>forgetting about the French Revolution, where the people overthrew the monarchy and established a democratic republic with more rights (so rights WERE the point)
>forgetting about Tiananmen square, where rights were the point.
>>54266344
You're right, both communism and having no free speech are retarded.
>>54268443
This. See >>54262144, he swore an oath and he upheld it.
>>54268414
Unfortunately, since the army is fucking massive and the NSA could plan what we do via surveillance, I think that there's absolutely no chance that a militia would win against the government. They could just nuke the battalion, revolution ended.
Fuck, it'd be easier for a millionaire to buy a ton of planes, put a ton of bombs on them, have a few pilots with parachutes (or autopilots), fly them all over DC, and crash them into the White House, Pentagon, Congress, FBI, NSA (in MD), and NSA datacenters (???). Then go to one of the countries that doesn't ship you back to the US.
...How many watchlists am I now?
Rms' chose the right words, snowden is a based hero.
For any feds watching that feel that what they are doing might be unethical, look into intelexit.
>>54269707
"Saying that you don't need privacy because you have nothing to hide is just as absurd as saying that you don't need freedom of speech because you have nothing to say."
Absolute hero - confirming many's suspicion that America is a neocon shitcenter that spies on its allies. I'm so glad he has redpilled so many countries on what a great fucking ally the US is.
Snowden and Assange are both modern-day heroes.
>>54273119
Along with Thomas Drake, William Binney, and others.
