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How can we make girls more interested in computers?
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Why is this an issue?
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If they don't want to go to STEM then just force them.
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>>52016469
Encourage more hot Chads to take CS. Girls are scared of CS because everyone in that major is a ugly nerd.
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>>52016469
Who cares?

If you have to cater specifically to them, then they are not really interested, and should probably stay out anyways.
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Change the wallpaper every 5 minutes to a picture of a different pair of shoes

Set their browser homepage to gossip websites
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>>52016469
Girls love computers, they are on Facebook 24/7.
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>>52016469
Stop being typical straight guys. Don't stare at boobs. Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around. Don't treat women differently. Don't pay women differently.

And when all that is done and there is still a low number of women in tech, only then can we finally say, "I told you so."
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>>52016619
>Stop being typical straight guys. Don't stare at boobs. Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
>Don't treat women differently. Don't pay women differently.
kek, which way do you want it?
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>>52016469

Why do we have to, girls don't want to make me more interested in shit they do.
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>thinking like a computer will help you win arguments
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>>52016486
This.
If they're not interested enough to start learning on their own, why force them?
It would only inspire half-assed work.
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Don't. If girls don't give a shit about computers then leave them be. It makes no sense to try and bring girls who post on twatter and fukbook most of their time while getting degrees in woman's studies or liberal arts. You're asking for more SJWs and Feminists to ruin computers for everyone else.

If a girl out there is interested in computers she will naturally come to learn about them and develop a passion for them.
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>>52016469
Maybe if we convince them their value somehow depends on their education/employment?
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>>52016469
needs more cooking software
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>>52016619
>Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
>Don't treat women differently.
Those two are not compatible. Women make just as many cheesy or "harmful" jokes as blokes do. You're telling us to be more careful around women, but that's treating women differently.

>Don't pay women differently.
Then tell them to be CEOs instead of caregivers. Force them out of daycare, force them not to have children.

Point is, we're people. Different strokes for different blokes, if women doesn't want to enter STEM, then don't force them, we're in [current year] after all.
When the job market becomes adequately attractive to women for whatever reason, they'll want to enter on their own accord. Whether it be subcultural acceptance (yes, a lot of women still see STEM as something nerdy boys do), money or the work itself, they'll come here at some point when the stereotypical "women jobs" are less attractive.
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>>52016619
>Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
>Don't treat women differently.
Could you make up your mind pls?
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>>52016469
Translation:

How can we get girls interested in computers so that maybe one of the land whales might have sex with OP out of pity.

Women have a social role to play which is domestic in nature. Their biology and thought processes are not fit for the rigid working environment of STEM fields.
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vibrating chairs
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>>52016846
/thread
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>>52016469
they're not there because they're not interested. You can't fucking force them there for cancerous delusional politically correct agenda.
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>>52016469great more competition. Plus most hr is female so yay
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How can we make girls more interested in Boilermaking?
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>>52016469
How can we make guys more interested in Gender Studies
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>>52017002
a blowjob for every class attendance.
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>>52016469
Stop raping them.
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Make computers easier.
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If you have to MAKE someone interested, they're not really interested. There is nothing wrong with this.
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>>52017016
reverse psychology
>not getting their tits sucked
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>>52016846
Most. There are a few very good STEM minded women.
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>How do we make girls do x

Fuck off they should do what they want

>There should be more diversity in STEM fields!
>This place has less females than males, fucking discrimination!

Let em do whatever you fags
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>>52016657
fuck you
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We don't need more Web developers.
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Make CS less logical and more emotional.
Get rid of data structures and algorithms and every other concept that could confuse women. We don't need them anyway.
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>>52017514
No fuckyou sir.
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>>52016486
This.

It's healthy to have a gf who's not into any nerd shit.

When I go out with someone, I need to fucking breathe, not think about IT shit all the fucking time.
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>>52017698
>Doesn't have a geeky waifu
Why do you live?
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>>52016619
Norway has all of that and women still don't go into tech
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You just misspelled less
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ignore them
always works
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>>52016469
stop raising them on disney-princess stories, dolls, and makeup. if we agreed to give them lego sets and shit growing up like boys, and take celeb-gossip crap out of magazines and off TV, you'd see about as many girls be interested in STEM stuff as boys.

Feminists hate that solution because it doesn't involve blaming men for the problem though
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>>52018053
Girls don't like those toys on large. If you give girls lego sets then they play house with them and make dolls.
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>>52017698
0/10 wouldn't bang
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>>52018111
She sucked chicken cox
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>>52018090
that's where the "if we agreed" part is important. Sure, if they see the other girls at school with all their dolls and shit, they'll want that instead. Kids always want what the other kids have. You'd have to raise them in an environment where they don't see all that crap, which is why I despair of it happening.
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>>52016499
Ironically, feminists are the ones keeping STEM a boys club by scaring women out of STEM by constantly screaming about creepy virgin nerds and misogyny.
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>>52018157
Modern feminists who claim to be against sexist are the most sexist. It's painful to watch.
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>>52016469 (OP)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=D1sXuHnf_lo
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Why should we? You should be interested in it because you enjoy it. If most women don't like it, then most women don't like it.
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By making Loonix less confusing

>wtf how do I play my madonna cd
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>>52016532
> 5 minutes
You... you don't actually know any women do you?
You'd need to change it twice per second while displaying multiple shoes at once.
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Only if we make computers less logical and easier to use will girls become truly interested. Pretty much everything about computers is logical. that's why you don't see many girls in computers. Also a computer is too small to fit a girl in.
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>>52016469
this is a people problem not just a girl problem, and the entire IT industry is to blame. companies like MS and Apple are trying to dumb down ALL computer users, and stop people from using the computer as a tool to learn and function and rather just turn everything into a passive, touch interface, cloud based, mobile experience
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>>52018392
Modern liberals who are anti-racist, are the most racist too.
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>>52016469
by fucking them with computers
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>>52018569

>Writing a function to concat strings when you can just use operators
>writing a post condition for a basic string operation
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>>52018860
W. O. R. R. Y.

Ruby is filled with people who know HTML/CSS and fuck-all about OO programming.
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>>52016613
underrated post
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is there a movement to get more women into garbage disposal?
fish gutting?
any other job thats considered non desirable?
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>>52017698
This guy knows life
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>>52016627
>he stares at guys dicks while they're not looking
>he cant pay a woman the same amount without saying he would murder tha pusy'
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>>52016469

You can't otherwise girls would have no excuse as to why the majority of them are terrible at anything other than organizing events, dinners, and other bullshit that isn't actual breadwinner work

The non hotties would also have no excuse as to why they weren't giving beaten with a stick ugly guys a chance. Most of those girls want to maintain an air of being the cool, understanding, the friend of nature. They'd claim appearance doesn't matter to them because they're below average themselves, but they're like every other girl.. they want to date a handsome guy, that makes bank, and is tall/dark/attractive.

Here's some core truth, it's super easy to be friend with a ridiculously hot girl. You know you're out of their league, and they don't try to tempt you to try. That's why basically nerds and super models get on great, cause they both know what they bring to the table.

The problems come in when below average girls with low self-esteem start to become really "friendly" with average guys who can't figure out what they're doing. Why do they do this? Easy, they want the attention the hot girls get, but they don't want to actually have to deal with the consequences of how they act.

Guys are realizing this and feminism is the answer to it

feminism is all at once;

>the greatest shit test for women who just want a beta that will literally jump off a cliff for her, buy her anything she wants, and let her basically not work for the rest of her life

>the biggest red flag for guys who want to steer clear of the kind of women where everything is a test

The problem for most feminists is that by 30 they're going to realize they fucked up, and no one wants to put up with a crusader for the rest of their lives. What's more, a crusade for fucking shit like manspreading. No sane man will put up with that, no above average attractive guy will settle for it either

Feminism has basically become the equivalent female neckbeard and tumblr is their 4chan
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How about getting woman into the more dangerous jobs. Lumberjacks, coal Miners, fishermen.
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>>52017698
I disagree, when there are no interests in common things get dull quick

I had a geeky fb for 6 months and that was so much better than the 3 normie gf's I had in the past just because we could speak about anything for hours, and mostly intelligent topics as opposed to the normie gossip my ex-gfs liked to talk about.

[spoiler] could be biased 'cause sex was better too [/spoiler]
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>>52019281
The hell is "fb", fuckboi?
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>>52016619
>don't be typical straight guys
nah how about fuck off?

>don't stare at boobs
get thicker skin frankly. there's stuff women do too that make guys uncomfortanly

>racy jokes
hurr durr pc

>don't treat women differently
never going to happen, deal with it.

>don't pay women differently
wage gap has been disproved numerous times now

>in b4 77c on the dollar bs
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>>52019313
I think it means fuckbuddy
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>>52017514
lol why you mad? The tripfag is 100% correct.
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>>52019346
Reality hurts when you live in a fantasy, that faggot poster probably thinks the only thing keeping women out of tech is evil White men
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>>52017698

it's healthy to be with someone who you actually get along with, that's it, that's the criteria

advice to those < 25 in the thread now, just find a girl that is chill, the rest barely matters
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>>52018860

Better yet, expensive salad, expensive drink that probably tastes like shit, macbook, hello world, cd code, cd .., cd code, cd .., cd code, zsh with bloatet config probably takes seconds to load, probably doen'st even know how to resolve merge conflicts, probably even pishing her shitty hello world and wasting server space...

le women in tech meme everyone...
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Here's a better question, how can we stop woman from infiltrating every hobby men have?

Seriously, woman ruin everything.
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>>52019407
Don't take SJWs seriously and don't give them an inch.
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>>52019407

you can't, even the military is in danger now and that was basically the last bastion of the boys club in the world

don't get me wrong, a lot of female soldiers are bro tier, but when I heard they considered lowering the bar for them, I was amazed
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>>52019457
Doubt you'll be in a position to give them your inch.
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>>52019407
Go climb mountains, the day they flatten Everest for being sexist is the day I stop living.
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>>52017514
Fuck you
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>>52016469

Don't. They've fucked up everything else don't force women to fuck up computers as well. Teach 'em spreadsheets and leave it at that. Otherwise let them do something, you know, they might actually be interested in? Like talking on the phone, something else that involves lots or chatter and gossip. Or cooking.
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>>52016469
I want LESS plebs in CS not fucking more.
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>>52020642
Computers already are fucked up.

wtf are you on about?
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>>52018157
The beta version of females talking shit to the male betas, lol. I guess I'd be mad too if I had a vagina and was ugly and useless in every way possible
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>>52016469
Post more eggplants.
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>>52019063
>>52019279
Women usually can have a fallback plan of being a housewife, so they don't have to sink to garbage truck drivers at any point.
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>>52021277
Women "dropped out" of CS because they were never in it in the first place, or at least what we consider modern CS to be. Modern CS is something that's only existed as recently as the 70s/80s. Before that we were talking big machines with punch cards being used by mathematicians and business professionals. The women were the operators and as 'cs majors', we're responsible for just coordinating use of the machines between people like a secretary. They got replaced by Operating Systems and personal computers. That's why it's mostly men nowadays. Women got cut out of playing middle man.
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>>52021912
middle woman*
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>>52021912
>Modern CS is something that's only existed as recently as the 70s/80s
>Graph shows an exponential rise in women as cs majors in the 70's through mid 80's
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TFW no /mu/ gf
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>>52022004
Nothing about his post was incorrect.
Women are shit with anything that doesn't revolve around their image.
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>>52022066
Well /mu/ is fucking garbage and obsessed with memes, so thank goodness.
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>>52022004
Yes because the field was growing and people thought they'd be hopping on the gravy train basically working as telephone operators. There's a big ass drop after that increase when it became clear growth in the technology field did not mean that there were going to be more jobs for operators, and instead meant more people were just working on personal machines.
People are usually late to realize stuff. Like people aspiring to work in ford factories putting cars together
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>>52018111
is this what autism feels like?
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>>52018569
based fish shell
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>>52016664
Oh wow, literally blown away.

10/10 post, short, to the point, deep critique of modern human selection. No, really, a million internets to you.
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I think we should get more women into construction and in the front lines of marines.

Let me guess women don't want those positions, well for that they're sexist menphobes.
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>>52019271
> they want to date a handsome guy, that makes bank, and is tall/dark/attractive.
>tall/dark/attractive
>dark
found the kuck
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>>52016469
First of all, take out all of that programming bullshit somewhere else. It's not trendy, it's not interesting, it doesn't empower you. Then we will talk.
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>>52016469
But they are?

[spoiler]They just aint interested in me 24 year old virgin[/spoiler]
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>>52016469
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink
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>>52023212
>programming doesn't empower you
What
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>>52023233
This is the worst phrase ever. Yes you can, you can shove its head under the water if it's deep enough. It will have no choice but to take water in.
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>>52023272
Unless it's a tiny as shit horse. No you can't
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>>52023272
Drinking =/= drowning
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>>52023272
It's not drinking.
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>>52023212
You've never seen a horse irl have you
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>>52023246
Programming does not help your autonomy. At worst you're representing gray mass who just writes code. At best you're managing that gray mass and only people who will hear your voice are those who are in that gray mass.
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>>52018569
How'd she take this photo?
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>>52022383
>Oh wow, literally blown away.
>literally
Go jump off a bridge
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>Melody is wearing a MJ shirt
>Dana is sporting a DSLR
>Valerie's teeth and that thing on her head
>Essie looking submissive

How many racial stereotypes can we cram into one picture?
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>>52016619
>Stop being typical straight guys.

>>Implying tech employees are typical straight guys.

Kek.
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>>52023529
Nah, it's a pretty decent comment.

Men in university try so hard academically, they try so hard to build a career and when you think of it, women only select highly successful men. It's the power and status thing.

But women know they can open doors with a smile, why try hard at all? Some women think they're actually worth it to marry a rich man and then lounge the rest of their life, screaming muh misogyny if they're asked to cook and clean.

We have a disposable men thing, but we have a privileged woman thing. We treat men like slaves to society, where if they're not useful they deserve poverty and loneliness, but we treat women as if they're intrinsically useful, catering to their every whim and emotion. People tell fat women they deserve "that" guy and shouldn't lower their standards, but a poor man deserves to be forever alone?

Come to think of it, no shit there aren't many women in engineering. No shit feminism has made this worse

Also, notice how my post is tldr and his says exactly the same thing in one line? That's genius.
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>>52016469
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>>52023523
Look at the reflection.
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>>52016469
why do we need to?
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Won't work.
Girls are already plenty interested in CS because people think that is where all the money is.
When I started comp sci there was about 30 girls in a class of 200.
It is a class of about 100 or so and there is about 2 girls. The rest dropped out because it was too hard or they realized they did not like computers.

Oh and one of the two is dropping out next year.
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>>52023646
She used her mouth?
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>>52016469
How can we make men more interested in tailoring?
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>>52023681
lmao
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>>52016619
>Stop being typical straight guys.
why?
>Don't stare at boobs.
are you kidding? do women wear clothes that show off boobs because they don't want people to look at them? get real
>Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
you want me to treat women differently here?
>Don't treat women differently.
make up your mind
>Don't pay women differently.
from what i've seen, the "wage gap" isn't really a thing, they make less overall because they work less overall


the question is, why do women need special treatment to get into tech jobs?
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>>52023907
Don't delude yourself, she's an outlier.
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>>52016469
Why force them?
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You can't "make" someone like something, you'll either like it, or you won't.
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>>52023988
Fuck off, brogrammer.
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>>52023907
Bullshit, that dirty little slut slept her way to the top
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>>52016469
draw big dicks and abs on software and hardware packaging/ logos
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>>52024000
nice trips, but fuck off sjwshill
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>>52024040
The only reason you're against women in IT industry is that you won't be able to make HILARIOUS sexist jokes about dongles and other stupid shit. Grow up.
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>>52024061
I'm not even>>52023988
and you're still a waste of existence.
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>>52024080
Yeah nice argument there, kid.
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>>52023907
>implying third wave feminism doesn't utterly disgust her as well.

I would love to have a serious discussion with her.
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>>52016486
You can pay girls less and maximize profits

Girls are also less likely to diverge from the social dogma and agree with statements like "if you have nothing to fear, you have nothing to hide" and "american copyright is american moralright", so they're a better fit for screwing people over than effeminate male hipsters

>>52024061
It's only women in "IT" that are bothered by those, because they're all fucking feminists
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>>52024094
>kid

muh form of ad hoc fallacy

waste waste waste.
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>>52024061
why wouldn't i? why would i change my behaviour? i thought they didn't want to be treated differently
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>>52024118
They only want to be treated the same by men with real jobs. Userland brogrammer nerds are below them and must behave as children behave around their mothers.
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ITT once again women want something but don't know what, beyond PAY ATTENTION TO MEEE you nerdmanbearpig.
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>>52023907
>She was one of the first programmers of the Harvard Mark I computer in 1944, invented the first compiler for a computer programming language, and was one of those who popularized the idea of machine-independent programming languages which led to the development of COBOL, one of the first high-level programming languages.
Yeah, typical SJW CV.
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>>52024114
>muh form of ad hoc fallacy
I'm not sure you know what "ad hoc" means.

>>52024118
>why would I stop being an immature prick
Riiight.
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>>52019157
>dicks = boobs
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>>52024143
>Userland brogrammer nerds are below them and must behave as children behave around their mothers

>>>/tumblr/ where your bullshit arguments might be recognized as more than manhating drivel.
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>>52024165
>I have no idea what he said, better challenge his understanding of what he said to make myself seem valid

typical woman
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>>52024213
"Ad hoc" is literally non-applicable to "kid" remark.
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ITT continuing reason why women shouldn't get interested in computers IF THEY DON'T WANT TO

feminists are scum even to their own kind. ffs
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As a man, I have personally benefitted from affirmative action for women.

My mother got into an ivy league graduate business school with undergraduate grades and test scores that were above average as opposed to top shelf, because she was a woman and they felt women were underrepresented at their school. She graduated, worked for a prestigious consulting firm and ended up running her own company, affording me a very comfortable upbringing that allowed me to have a hand-me-down computer when I was 5 or 6 that was responsible for me figuring out that programming was my calling.

Did she "deserve" to get into school in the first place? Debatable. But just because she was the beneficiary of positive discrimination didn't mean she had a free ride. She could clearly do the work, and ended up having a successful career. That could have been your mother. Your sister. Your friend. Your girlfriend.
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>>52024235
it's common knowledge that women fucking despise one another
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>>52024235
They don't want to because they're misinformed by men.
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>>52024229
did your echo chamber tell you that?

it must have been resonating.
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>>52024241
nice copypasta, but that could apply to anyone, not just women
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>>52024241
It possible, but for most families it's the father who is responsible for the vast majority of the income.
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>>52024253
>said the feminist propagandist.
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>>52024261
Then you probably can explain how "ad hoc" and "kid" are related.

Protip: you can't.
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>>52024276
>2015
>using protip:

using the word kid as an insult to make yourself seem superior rather than a proper rebuttal is a form of adhoc fallacy.

in other words, Bitch please.
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>>52024276
your existence makes children cry.
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>>52024270
this. Feminists still btfo
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>>52024305
Proper rebuttal to what?
>and you're still a waste of existence.
Is that an argument?
Plus, what you're trying to describe is not "ad hoc" but "ad hominem". You retard.
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Why women aren't in tech?
That's an easy problem to solve, just ask them.
Blaming male or female behavior is a total copout though, it's like saying ants have an mother fetish and are wrong in following their queen.
Respect humanity to a some degree at least when you make arguments.
And I mean respect in the sense we have a really fucked up sense of existence.
Some think it's cool to be a pain in the ass, some kill others, some just like to think of themselves only and some are just kind.

Thinking humanity as two subspecies is something that is really weird.

What I'd like to see, is that people listened others, women who want to be in tech, men who want to care for children, but at the same time I'd like those people not to enforce their preference on others.

Please stop speaking for your gender, it's a silly notion and wont get us anywhere.
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>>52024275

They're not misinformed by men per se, they're misinformed by society as a whole, who has a concept of 'male roles' and 'female roles'.

As long as STEM jobs are still seen as predominantly male roles, positive discrimination will be necessary to counteract that until things balance out.
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>>52024368
>Blaming male or female behavior is a total copout though
But it's reality. In general, women don't want to work lonely jobs that is common in STEM fields. They prefer to socialize; that's just how it is.
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>>52024403
Society doesn't misinform, it's basically always right. The same way the people are right in a democracy.
What you propose is a change, and it's all good, but you need to get people involved in that change.

There are a lot of laws and practices that aren't followed, and that's mainly because a small subset of people got their will trough.

There is the notion that we need to safe guard ourselves against ourselves, it's talked about a lot in philosophy. Can laws root out behavior tendencies that are harmful to others?
The answer is clearly not, though for example Japan has pretty low crime rates, they accomplish it by sentencing most suspects, regardless of actual truth.
But it's not a sudden nationalistic ideal that created it, it was born from history and customs, so it's not that criticized.

How can you change behaviour, are you really representing the majority? Are the questions.
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>>52018569
>ruby

2/10 would not bang
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>>52024549
Society is never right.
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by putting computers in kitchens
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>>52018569
square(4)
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>>52024462
But that's not blaming, it's not the males fault it creates the workplace as it is.
It's not womens fault they create the atmosphere in schools
It's really fucking stupid to go after society when you want change, you can try to enact laws, but attitudes and behavior are too slow to change, especially when attacked against.

It's the downfall of feminism, if you look at the first waves and how they achieved so much in so little time, you see how the methods were formal and suggestive.
Not full frontal attack and being just a dick because.

I think the main issue feminism has in 2015 is the difficulty to word or argument actual issues.
A more gentler and thought out approach would work wonders.
Define a problem, so that everyone can understand and then work on that.
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>>52024589
Society is always right by default.
You might not agree with it, but you will have to live in it.
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>>52024101
Third wave is deceptively Marxist in such a way the people doing it don't even realise how much Marxism is in there, anyone who has read 1984 or brave New world (you shouldn't be taken seriously in any political argument if you haven't read at least one) should be absolutely mortified by it.

>smash the patriarchy
>redistribute opportunities to women
>double think everywhere
It's fucking scary, and women by nature have a conformity thing so they eat it up. Blacks too, which is essentially the BLM movement.

>>52024403
>As long as STEM jobs are still seen as predominantly male roles, positive discrimination will be necessary to counteract that until things balance out.
That's actually not the issue, they're seen as predominantly "geek" roles and women don't want to be seen as geeks, it's the conformity thing, women are incredibly concerned with image and choose careers based off of that.

The women inside STEM are more likely going to refer to the machismo around STEM, that is the playful competitive men indulge in around male dominated fields, but that's just an extension of the geek thing. To women, caring about your work is wrong and the fact that they're expected to is yet another "geek" thing being imposed on them. They don't give a fuck if their backend benchmarks faster or slower and see the expectation that they care as offensive.

Honestly, if you want someone to blame, how about Hollywood for creating this stereotype?
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>>52024701
I get what you're saying but right is just a bit unfitting word here.
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>>52024719
What would be a better word then, correct?
We as a species are always correct in our behavior, it's impossible not to be, partly because we have no comparison on other similar type beings.

I always find it funny when people use the word inhumane. It's like one can change species by a mere act.
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>>52016469
Place computer in kitchen.
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>>52016486
White liberals need to create problems, because complaining their starbucks mocha not having enough cream doesn't sound as appealing as "battling modern social injustices".
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>Why?

I just want my office to be less of a sausagefest.
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we cant and we shouldnt be persuading someone is almost as bad as forcing them into something
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We don't
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>>52018569
This is exactly how you get women into computers.

Just tell them it will justify buying a new shiny thing, being cool on instagram and having bragging rights because she learned 'Hello world'.

This is what 'more women in CS' women really want. Lots of attention on social media, macbook purchases justification and as little coding as possible.
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>>52016469
Why can't they stay in the kitchen where they belong?
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Give them computers they can actually tinker with when they're 3 or 4 years old. And don't be an asshole about it. That's really it. Everything after that is rather pointless since by adolescence the die has been cast. All the politically correct hemming and hawing about lack of girls in STEM at age 15 or 18 or 21 or 30 won't make a difference if their interests were set in not-quite-stone-but-some-material-that-is-very-hard-to-change-the-shape-of a decade or more before.

Unfortunately for the feminists barking up this tree in 2015 it means they have to completely shift their focus and then wait until at least 2025 or 2035 to see any real change. But that would require patience and a willingness to admit that you can't complain your way to am imediate demographic shift.
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>>52016619
>Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
>Don't treat women differently.

If I'm not treating women differently, then I'm making racy jokes, because most guys don't give a fuck.
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>>52016619
>muh cis males
>muh boobs
>muh man jokes
>muh treatment of women
>muh wage gap
kek/10 b8 m8
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>>52027929
this kind of glosses over the incredulity guys express when a woman shows up to sign up for a stem field.
and the dismissal that women in stem must be cheating or have to work harder to get all that complicated math stuff into their dainty little heads
and their anger when they find when women don't swoon for every guy in their classes.

that kind of shit tends to rebuff people.
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>>52016469
It's a wonder why /g/ is full of lonely weebs. You all are so considerate of the opposite gender and their skills as human beings. You must be neckbeard deep in pussy. Keep it up weebs.
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>>52016469
Simple, OP.

Become one.
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>>52027951
wtf are you saying faggot, speak english. women are fucking dumber than dirt and would rather sit on a dick than work.
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>>52027972
disgusting
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>>52016619
>Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around.
>Don't treat women differently
Top kek
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>>52027960
pms femanon detected
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>>52016469
tell all the guys to "identify as women". Liberal ass-pains guaranteed.
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>>52019313
First blood
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>>52016486
>>52016493
>>52016648
These three.
/thread.
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>>52027960
>women
>skilled EVER
white knight, please fuck off back to reddit you
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>>52027869
Pretty much this. My elder brother met me on his ORIC-1 when I was 3. The manual had pictures, and I could read well. By 4 I'd written my own BASIC interpreter (in BASIC... I know it doesn't make sense, I *was* 4!). Then later on, dad brought home a surplus Torch Communicator from work... A couple years later I was vocal about what I wanted for Christmas, vocal enough that they spent the money on an Atari ST instead of the fancy dolls house shit they were thinking of. Started software cracking the protected games, assembly language coding...

I'm now 35, and retired, after a lucrative career in reverse-engineering. (BTW, there's not as much money in it now. Meme career.) Maybe now I'll get a doll's house.

There's no magic. Just cull all the sexist IT teachers who can't teach worth a bean anyway, and please just nuke the brogrammers (face it, we would all benefit from that), and the rest of the industry doesn't really give a damn and is honestly okay, usually.

Engineers often have a salty sense of hour, but there's nothing new about that. Maybe that's a factor? I honestly don't know.

You do have to avoid mentioning your gender sometimes because people jump down your throat, but idiots are idiots. And it can be odd being the only want in the room, but that's actually not all that common and only gets weird when someone points it out. Eh, whatever.
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>>52027869
>>52028289
>treat women like men
>women still turn out retarded
This rationale is top-tier kek and has been in the shitter for decades now. Try harder faggots. Men and women are not the same. Stop forcing the meme, it's been dead for years now.
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>>52024241
>Your girlfriend.
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>>52016619
>Stop being typical straight guys. Don't stare at boobs. Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around. Don't treat women differently. Don't pay women differently.
lets try reverse physiology: Please stay here and dont even think fucking back to reddit. You seem like an intelligent person i fucking love you
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>>52016469
>How can we make girls more interested in computers?

Why?

No one made me interested, it was an interest I pursued. I don't think you can force interest. My country has these fucking gender quotas or bonuses for "underrepresented" genders, I went to uni with a bunch of girls who displaced guys thanks to their massive gender bonus. Some of them were bretty guud, others really had no interest in computing or technology. A good deal of them jumped over to courses created to deal with the students who were thinking of quitting or flunking out, some HSE shit.


>>52016619
>Stop being typical straight guys. Don't stare at boobs. Be more careful about who you make racy jokes around. Don't treat women differently. Don't pay women differently.

Is this a troll? If women want the same wages, they'll have to put in the same hours and work. Currently, they do not put in the same hours, and there's where this wage gap myth comes in.
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>>52017514

How about you counter with arguments instead of expletives?
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>>52016469
say its a "boys only club"
seriously, sluts never intrude never on communities until that claim is made.
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>>52016469
>of course the first one on the pic is the slim, white, attractive one

THIS IS SO PROBLEMATIC
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installed mint on my wife's laptop, she asked what the terminal thing was i showed her how to apt-get stuff. "this is pretty fun i feel like a haxxor". I cringed.
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>>52024151
She did not invent the first compiler. She did not write a program that transformed source code into machine code. Also, COBOL caused literally billions of dollars in damages on Y2K.
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>>52030448
but saved billions of dollars before it do to memory savings. It's a wash.
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>>52019157
>not checking out your co-workers dicks and butts
what are you? scared to become gay from just looking?
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>>52030416
This. Women are just dumb.
A few days ago I was doing some simple shit on Python and my girlfriend's daughter said I reminded her of Bazinga-man.
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>>52030397
why?
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Don't. Companies are pushing this agenda not for "equality" but to saturate the market with STEM majors which in turn will lower market salaries. Do you honestly think these companies care about the plight of women?
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>>52016469

With a grassroots education program that starts with young children showing them that computers, and thus programming, is not just for boys.
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>>52016657
Fucking this.

You're just asking for donglegate all over again on a bigger scale
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>>52024010

She's gonna beat you over the head with a Nanostick if you don't shut your mouth right now, sir.
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>>52027972
Well, I think I'm probably a faggot now. Spent 33 years finding men repulsive, and this is a trap I'd fuck. Not just fuck, but I'd actually date... It
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>>52016469
Make them boys
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>>52016469
Write a programming language that doesn't rape them.
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>>52016469
% make girls
make: *** No rule to make target 'girls'. Stop.
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I like computers, and I just installed mint.

What's the best way to actually learn about computers?
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>>52018569
>cd.. command not found
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>>52023523
She's a robot.
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>>52016469
It honestly triggers me that those female characters in the image are not done in the flat design style
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>>52016469
Make them watch this shitty video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwiln7v0fdc
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>>52018569
>concatente_strings
>cd back and forth

Man, I don't want to doubt girls' abilities to program or even use computers properly, but...
UGH.
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>>52031052
how will women in tech ever get a job at a startup if they can't master le flat design
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Stop with sexism? That usually helps.
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>>52032033
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>>52032033
this

we should stop trying to get girls into computing
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i don't want to have to compete against more people for jobs
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>>52027960
thanks mr shark
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>>52031077
>coding
As a programmer this word makes me cringe and I never use it among colleagues. That entire video is le cringe. Women are clearly the weaker sex.
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>>52024567
>2/10 would not bang
now that is gay
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>>52024109
this is not true
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>>52030889
Thanks, anon.
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>>52017698
>When I go out with someone, I need to fucking breathe, not think about IT shit all the fucking time.
you're in the slave caste of high iqers, that's why you don't want to think about "nerd stuff"... go get a Ph.D in CS or mathematics
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god why do you faggots reply to these threads. if it wasn't christmas i would turn this shit into a porn dump
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time to face facts my friends, IT is a job that you're supposed to half-ass. an IT guy who works hard and takes it seriously is like the janitor who is really fucking serious about polishing the floor and sweeping up dust. it's a job for people with high iq who haven't gotten their lives together yet. if anything most sane people would rather work with a girl who is socially normal but mediocre at tech than some highly skilled guy who loves to share his really interesting opinions about vim vs emacs and randomly starts talking about how much he hates java programmers out of nowhere.
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>>52023907
>extremely small fraction of women in tech have done remarkable things
>thus every female in tech will or has done remarkable things
Nice logic
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>>52030416
Wait, she said "haxxor"? Do you live in the 00's? Invest in Nokia stock when it eventually hits a low point around 2011-2012. Sell when it eventually jumps up.
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>>52033913
I actually had to deal with such a situation in my last IT job. I pick the guy every day. The girl I had to deal with only got hired because she was pretty, and she fucking things up all the time and I had to be the one to fix her mistakes on top of doing my regular workload.

That being said, people who know what they're doing are ideal, gender aside. We also had another girl who was great at her job, and I liked working with her because she had my back when shit went down. I think that anyone who is shallow enough to make judgements on their coworkers based on physical factors like sex and appearance is a fucking retard.
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>>52018860
>>52018569
>concatenate_strings
>concatenate
>"#{string1} #{string2}
>" "
it gets worse
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>>52034244
But we need more women in STEM!
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>>52034489
Good thing I'm trans so I not only know my shit, but I also fill diversity quotas :^)
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>>52030990
>I want to learn about computers
>install mint

Well I guess that's one way to go about it
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>>52016469
>wanting to make the SJW problem WORSE
found the SJW
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>>52030990
install gentoo
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I agree, we NEED MORE WOMEN in IT.

We also NEED MORE MEN, in:
>Nursing
>K-12 Education
>Event Planning
>Counseling
>Human Resources
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>>52035484
>what is an outlier
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