why do artists use macs?
because form over function is their thing
they just werk
>>51842289
because they're degenerate homosexuals
Good design inspires good design.
I think this is why 3rd party software is so much slicker on OSX than Windows: developers are surrounded by good design, and they aspire to that level. Conversely, on Windows they figure Microsoft is happy to half-ass everything why shouldn't they.
Because other people told them artists use macs and they didn't feel like doing more research than that
because if you're an artist and you don't use Apple products you're poor and don't have style.
>>51842289
If you were an artist, would you use an ugly shitbox or an aesthetically pleasing machine?
>>51842289
Japs don't only western try hards who call themselves "artists"
>>51842346
>apple
>good design
pick one
>>51842434
that wouldn't actually work
>>51842352
This really. Apple told people that artists use Macs, so idiot wannabe professionals started using Macs. Clients heard it too so expect to see Macs.
>>51842434
That made me smile, thanks anon.
>>51842434
Why does that awful phone need such a large WiFi antenna?
>>51842346
>almost 2016
>not plugging in your mouse every night and buying a penis for your iPad
>>51842346
>pencil dick
>wireless mouse that can't be used while being charged
>battery case with a hideous bulge that doesn't even give a full charge
>unibody design that hinders user upgrades and such
>"desktops" with laptop parts
>computers that can't cool themselves properly
>>good design
Sure, aluminium looks nice but your choice of material isn't enough to make the design good. A design that hinders functionality and focuses on appearance instead of the purpose which the machine was created to fulfill isn't "good" by any means.
Because the hardware is pretty and it is fashionable among other artists. Also because they hear it's for designers and artists
>>51842304
This 2bh, they just werk.
>>51842335
this
/thread
I'd say the general availability of various content creation software.
Also they're fucking artist, liking shiny stuff just because they're shiny it's their thing isn't it?
>>51842434
No, this is not functional but looks-wise it's still in good taste and there's hardly anything on the market that looks better. Functionality is a whole different matter and I do agree that Apple's gone full retard lately.
Word of mouth from years ago when using a mac pro actually had benefits over other systems for video rendering and image processing. FCP alone must have sold hundreds of thousands of mac pros
>>51842463
well done. you must be an artist.
>>51842676
Also apple marketing.
>>51842650
aluminum is one of those materials everyone thinks they know about, and how great it is for everything.
Everyone has some hands on experience with aluminum.
It doesn't have the same sort of prestige as some lighter/stronger magnesium alloy that hardly anyone knows anything about.
>>51842647
I love Apple but this picture triggers me so much. Like, why? What the fuck is that? Is that shite intentional? What happened to them?
Please, do not post it ever again.
>>51842724
This kind of shit happens when you have too much money.
>>51842289
Because they used to sell monitors with good color accuracy in the 90's.
>>51842289
It's a gay thing, you'll soon understand.
Because you don't want to be troubleshooting your computer when you have work(art) to do.
Also, generally, artist aren't very technically inclined.
Do you buy a car that you have to often open and repair it yourself? or do you buy reliable ones that just works?
If you're just wanting to reach places then you'll probably choose simple and reliable ones.
>>51842346
Have you tried autocad on mac?
>>51842289
>>why do autists use mac.
Fixed
>>51842818
Frogposter beat me to it
Respect
The only reason is Apple's marketing.
Literally everyone I know say that Mac is the best suited for web design and art.
>>51842650
I'm thinking mostly in terms of software, but you're killing yourself if you don't think Apple had better hardware design than anyone else.
>>51842846
The only thing apple desing are the chassis and its quite shit
>>51842724
Mouse I understand. Besides the fact that it rarely needs to be charged, Apple doesn't want people to leave the power cord plugged in permanently both because it's ugly (you bought a wireless mouse, use it wirelessly) but because it would strain and eventually break the charge cable.
But the pencil thing is just retarded. They should have given it a regular female charge port.
>>51842289
Because a lot of artists are:
- hipster scum
- tech illiterate
- fell for the "it just werks!" meme.
I would know, I have to spend all day next to them.
>>51842883
Who designs motherboards this aesthetic?
>>51842945
>>51842945
I dont know, probably foxconn or some other contractor
I see more thinkpads and surface pros recently.
>>51842945
>people spend more money on apple product so they can waste it designing motherboards that you cant even see.
who the fuck cares?
>>51842997
Because they're not poor, people actually pay for good design
>>51843022
Absolutely no way that was outsourced to China. Anyone who's bought and opened up anything design in China would know that immediately.
>>51842795
>>51842945
You misspelled autistic.
>>51842997
>Seagate
Honestly, I expected apple to be all aboard that WD meme train.
>>51842389
Right :^)
>>51843101
Thats an old meme, chinese designed and produced good will have the quality according to the price the customer/constactor paid for it
>>51842650
>wireless mouse that can't be used while being charged
Doesn't really matter since 30 seconds of charging the mouse will give you enough juice to work all day long, and two hours of charging gives you over a month. For the pen even 15 seconds is enough for 30 minutes of operation.
Neither is like your typical wireless input devices which have batteries and charging circuitry so shitty and slow that you'd actually *need* to charge the device while using it.
The reason they put the lightning port on the bottom of the mouse was probably to stop idiots from using the mouse plugged in all the time and trashing its battery.
>>51843279
>all this hand to mouth shit consuming damage control
>>51843279
What frequency does it use? Must be 2.4ghz
Just take a tiny jammer to some hipster office and watch them cry
>>51843256
>asano inio
>relevant
also posting only one dude don't mean shit.
>>51843322
No, it's bluetooth. Apple wireless stuff has always been bluetooth because they control both the host and device sides of the stack and can make bluetooth a non-shitty experience.
The reason Logitech, etc do RF is because Bluetooth on Windows is an unmitigated nightmare from a device maker's standpoint, so it's far easier and more practical to do an RF dongle.
I wonder how much of a hand Ives has in board design. Clearly Apple designs its boards to look good, even if they'll never be looked at.
p.s. does anyone but Apple use black PCBs? Is it more expensive vs. green or something?
>>51843392
I don't know the reason for coloring, but Apple is one of the only consumer PC companies that designs its own boards still. Dell designs their own as well. Most PC companies take off-the-shelf laptop motherboard designs from OEMs and design their laptops around them instead of designing a motherboard to fit their laptops.
>>51843392
...actually Microsoft uses it for the SurfaceBook, although it's still not nearly as nice looking inside (yes I know the mb is upside down)
"artist" fall for the think different meme, and since they are complete tech iliterate they probably had bad experiences with Windows downloading cool_PS_font.exe
>>51843373
>The reason Logitech, etc do RF is because Bluetooth on Windows is an unmitigated nightmare from a device maker's standpoint, so it's far easier and more practical to do an RF dongle.
Is this really the reason they don't use standard bluetooth? I've always wondered why e.g. keyboards and mice rarely use standard bluetooth.
I'm an artist and I used to use macs until the surface pro 3 came out. Macs are more of a one off us thing. Having anything else is seen as weird or that you can't afford a mac. Of course people want to protect a certain image of themselves. The SP3 looks good enough for me to not give a fuck.
Because OS X actually innovates from time to time.
What's the latest innovation in Windows 10? Being spied on 24/7? LOL
>>51843472
Yep, it's definitely why. With the RF dongle, they can do all communication in the dongle's firmware, which then maps cleanly to standard USB HID and just works without driver installation or anything like that. When you plug in a logitech RF device your computer sees a plain old corded USB device.
Because they don't have time to waste with inferior products.
>>51843279
>Doesn't really matter since 30 seconds of charging the mouse will give you enough juice to work all day long,
They've stated that two minutes gets it up to 80% and that lasts 9 hours. That's not entirely 30 seconds. Still minimal time, but regardless. Stop a shilling.
> and two hours of charging gives you over a month.
Really curious to see how that pans out with the 80% thing unless it's something retardedly apple like '1 hour of use a day'.
They have better things to do than worry about their tools.
Artists like things to look nice.
>>51843555
They have better things to do than worry about shit tier baby OSs too.
Because Apple's products are thought out, not half stop gap measures.
>>51843585
>Apple's products are thought out, not half stop gap measures.
ayylmao
Because Apple is not racist like Microsoft
>>51843630
>liking niggers
>Windows can work with most hardware configurations, OSX can't even work with most Quadro cards.
>Windows has the best software, OSX outside of light media production is lacking.
>HFS+ is one of the worst file systems in use today
>Windows has the best IDE Visual studio, Xcode is useless for anything more than "app" development
>>51843782
>Windows has the best IDE
[citation needed]
>HFS+ is one of the worst file systems
>Windows has the best software
[citation needed]
inb4 games
>>51843803
Visual Studio is the industry standard for software development. with countless plugins make to work with every tool you need.
Every worthwile software is made for Windows, from music production to data analisys, evrey CAD/CAE software works with Windows.
OSX only has Adobe and a few DAWs.
>>51843519
Aren't there a standard bluetooth keyboard and mouse profiles?
>>51842289
What kind of artists? It all depends on which field you're talking about. If you mean graphic designers and typographers, they mostly use macs. They are generally hassle free, look nice and work pretty well, not a bunch of wires and cables to take care of and since their needs are limited, macs tend to do the job pretty well. A lot of the software they use is avaialable and works well, and now you'll find OSX only software like Sketch.
3D artists mostly build their own machines so you'll find a lot of them on PC's or workstations, of course this also depends on where they work and what kind of machines their company provides them.
Freelance illustrators are a mixed bag, you'll find both windows pcs and macs and occasionally someone running linux.
>>51842289
Apple's marketing team did their job, I guess.
>>51843603
That really is attrocious design. I assume it's because they wanted to maintain the slim profile around the side, but jusus fuck it looks stupid, and wasteful of potentially battery space.
>>51843630
This can't be real.
>>51843650
Apple will have his iCloud ID. Would be an easy easy way to spy on him.
>>51844083
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8221896.stm
>>51843782
HFS+ works perfectly fine for all purposes. They've managed to retrofit every modern feature you could want which is pretty impressive.
>>51843630
can confirm i'm polskafag and we hate niggers
>>51844123
>HFS+ works perfectly fine for all purposes.
Except for storing data on it.
>>51843782
>HFS+ is one of the worst file systems in use today
It's on par with NTFS and in some ways better. HFS doesn't have NTFS' bullshit filename limitations for instance.
>>51844165
[citation needed]
Works fine for millions of Mac/iOS users.
>>51843992
There are, but that's not the problem. The problem is how on Windows, there really isn't any standard bluetooth driver/stack. Some portion of the stack ALWAYS has to be provided by the bluetooth chipset manufacturer which makes for odd variations between individual Windows PCs. If you're a device manufacturer the only way you can really cope with this is to try to include workarounds for as many chipset-specific quirks as possible.
>>51842289
Because while artistic, they are not very book smart.
>>51844208
>Mac/iOS users
>>51844123
hfs is awesome!
>>51843894
>Visual Studio is the industry standard for software development
The majority of software developers doesn't even use languages that work with VS. When you look at languages it supports, there's still a majority of users are not using VS.
VS is only the standard when we are talking about C# development, and even in that are there are niches where you would rather use Xamarin.
The significant amount of users that are actively going away from Windows (90% regular market share, 39% for C++ programmers) doesn't really speak in favor of Windows as a dev platform.
>>51844287
>>51843894
source
>>51842846
>>"desktops" with laptop parts
>>computers that can't cool themselves properly
>hurr durr it looks good so it is good design
Computers aren't fashion accessories, any computer related design that adopts the form over function mentality is bad. Good appearence is a good thing but it isn't more important than function.
Macs used to be better for Photoshop, and are good for audio because CoreAudio. The Photoshop part hasn't been true since 2006 but the thought that it's true is still there
>>51842289
Artists don't use Macs. Graphic designers do.
>>51844285
good thing i can just restore from my backup!
>>51844165
>>51843782
Your opinion on HFS+ is based on memes and not on actual knowledge. I bet you won't be able to name a single issue with HFS+ that affects the user in any way.
>>51843279
>retarded products for retarded customers
>damage controlling this hard
>>51842899
The mouse is still retarded. If they didn't want you to use it plugged in they should just lock it in software or put the plug under the glass so you have to pull it up to reveal the port.
>>51844388
how did you break it?
>>51844420
Your opinion on HFS+ is based on what applel told you to believe and not on actual knowledge. I bet you won't be able to name a single file on HFS+ that hasn't been corrupted.
>>51844477
by properly ejecting the disk every time before i unplugged it. that was the 3rd time osx decided to nuke the fucking drive, and i have never once unplugged it without ejecting it.
>>51844477
He stored files on it.
>>51842289
Because they know fuck all about computers and they are following the latest fad
I had an HFS+ external drive corrupt itself doing an OSX upgrade (was the fault of WD driver software and effected a lot of people). I was still able to get the data off.
inb4 shoulda' unplugged all drives before an OS upgrade.
I love how easy it is to back up and restore drives and files using TimeMachine. Not example can HFS+ feature, but enabled by various features.
>>51844388
:(
>>51842289
The whole artists using macs thing is a meme. Poor hipster street artists use macs. I've worked at Nick and now work at Disney. At both when you get to your cubicle day 1 they ask you if you'd like a mac or a pc based on your preference of OS and if you say mac they bring you a mac pro and if you say pc they bring you an hp workstation tower.
Every other AAA tv/animation/film/game/graphicdesign company is the exact same that I've seen in LA and NY anyway
>>51844493
your drive is broken, nothing to do with the file system.
>>51844498
pretty much this. at one point in time, they had software that was focused on graphic design, pagination ect, but now everyone has that stuff.
>>51844599
>The whole artists using macs thing is a meme.
>Proceeds with telling a story about how all tv/animation/film/game/graphicdesign company give an option to use a mac
Higher grafical fidelity
>>51842289
They were the standard in graphic design and media editing throughout the '80s and '90s, pretty much for anything 2D there was no other choice. People just got used to it.
>>51844650
what I'm saying is they aren't elitist about it forcing you to use a mac in any art based work place. You know exactly what I was saying and are just being an ass
>windows laptops are cheaper
>>51842289
i work in a digital print center. we make everything
and here the design department uses mac because of these reasons according to them:
1. shortcuts (command + c for example) windows lacks this.
2. much faster (because a laptop that costs 3k is faster than a workstation pc that costs 1.5k
3. time machine (actually a good reason)
4. color code files and folder in finder
5. colors are accurate.
thats all i can remember, but there are much much more
>>51842289
A lot of artists do, and a lot of artists don't.
Artists I know and their hardware
>toshiba satellite laptop from a few years ago + wacom tablet
>custom desktop PC + 2x Dell Ultrasharp IPS LCDs
>Thinkpad W701DS
>Custom desktop PC + generic LCD panel + Viewsonic CRT monitor for graphic design
>Macbook Pro
So one out of 5. And the person with the Macbook is probably the least productive of the group. A lot of artists are pretty poor and/or don't give a fuck about anything other than what works. "Artists" who insist on all Apple products are usually posers.
>>51844770
>5. colors are accurate.
kek
>>51842647
That is the shittiest place for a charging port, why didn't they just put it at the front so it's like a wired mouse when charging it?
because they are faggots, that's why.
google "modern art performer" so you know what being an artist today means.
>>51844906
>the trackpad has no button
ayylmao
>>51844830
Apple's displays come pre-calibrated
>>51844967
Apple's displays come pre-shit.
>>51844870
because idiots would leave it plugged in eternally and kill the battery and defeat the purpose of being wireless
>>51843509
why are these like, reading from right to left?
>>51844731
>>51844764
>>51844770
>and all that pro-mac propaganda
kind of sound butthurt IMHO.
>>51842289
Every mac I see in my area has this background.
Is it too hard to change or something?
>>51844928
update your os nigger
>>51842289
>Can afford
>robust tool for work
>colors fonts, quality displays
>just unboxed, plugged in your tablet and can do your work.
>also shines.
Why not?
Except the fact that apple is the corporation of evil.
>>51845015
>mac user
>knowing how to change a wallpaper
>>51842803
we're taking about le Starbucks artists not architects and engineers
>>51845015
I keep hearing this.
Mac users aren't techies. When you get a new car, you might customize it., A few people actually do this so it must be better the first time
>>51845014
Reading from right to left is actually very common on a lot of part in the globe. Arabic and hebrew reads from right to left.
>>51845023
Please do not use racist slur :)
>>51844388
I recommend you to take your Mac to the local Apple Store, there is something defective.
Apple tried to capture that market in the 90s and it's reputation has stuck around despite not having the same amount of exclusive programs
Also, artists choose the prettiest looking computer by default because it's not like they actually have a clue about hardware
>>51845081
>there is something defective.
It's a mac, that's a feature.
>>51845015
a lot of people just don't care, same reason the XP hills were such a frequent sight for so many years
>>51845120
>>Also, artists choose the prettiest looking computer by default because it's not like they actually have a clue about hardware
It's more than that. People who care about looks are also going to be paying more attention to other aspects of the product, like attention to detail and how pleasant it is to use. Laptop bodies that twist and contort and creak and shitty trackpads are not pleasant.
>>51845015
If they don't have the galaxy background people won't know they have Macs.
>>51845246
I need an ultra high rez version of this for my mac
>>51843564
and yet that looks bad
that huge bezel
tiny weak looking laptops and keyboards
>>51845747
>tiny weak looking laptops
That's a PC laptop. Of course it looks flimsy and cheap :^)
>>51844584
At least in that case the files were still intact.
>>51842434
Introducing the new iRouter.
>>51845770
oh shit i didnt even look at it, its juts a natural instinct to look away when presented with apple products
>>51845610
There's a 4Kish version floating around as a huge TIFF file
google "bliss high definition" or something to that effect
>>51842724
Steve wasn't there to tell them it looked retarded.
>>51844584
>why can't system restore overwrite a file that I have open in memory?
>macfag computer literacy level
>>51845831
>tfw no lightning router.
r8 my apple collection
>>51845884
Yeah, why can't it?
It's no problem on GNU/Linux or FreeBSD.
You can also delete a file while it's still being used.
What kind of garbage OS can't do that?
>>51842665
I think you misunderstood that post.
>>51843630
>Because Apple is not racist like Microsoft
That's not a good thing
Cause at one time, Adobe products were more stable on Macs. That isn't the case anymore and hasn't been for some time. I know you Millennials are young and know nothing but now you know.
>>51845954
On windows you can't even make a copy of a file that's open, which makes zero sense. That was a real pain in the ass when I was setting up robocopy to back up an older friend's machine, because it meant if he wanted his email backup he'd always have to make sure to close his email client before going to bed (and no, I couldn't just kill it as part of the script because he often had unsaved email drafts sitting open).
>>51844906
>maximum gay
made me kek
art schools are for profit
they have a lot of profit
they get yelled at to spend on facilities
they think the best way to show they spend money is by buying "expensive" computers
apple has deals with educators to provide their equipment to keep people locked into one ecosystem
art school buys macs, more cheaply than they could other equipment
artists taught to use macs
artists don't know how to break out of ecosystem because they went to art school instead of a school to teach skills
>>51842289
>why do "artists" use macs?
Generally the type of people who jump straight to mac are the type that will think "if it's expensive, I'll be able to be more creative" - it's implied to be a limitless system, which ultimately hinders creativity.
They're the same type of fucks who'll buy 3000 dollar gibsons before learning how to play jackshit on the guitar. A shitty guitar can sound good in the right hands, it goes the other way around - A good guitar's gonna sound shit if the player sucks.
Honestly, any OS can be used pretty well in any field, it all depends on the person working it though.
The graphics APIs on OS X (the core frameworks, CoreImage, CoreGraphics, CoreVideo, CoreAnimation) are so mature and well featured they support loads of great third party apps like, Pixelmator, Acorn, and Sketch. Plus I you get Photoshop and GIMP and all the other cross platform apps.
http://www.pixelmator.com/mac/
http://flyingmeat.com/acorn/
https://www.sketchapp.com
>>51842289
By default, out of the box, Macs are somewhat artist-friendly.
Sure, you can probably build a Windows PC and set it up to be even better, but you really expect some hipster normie to do that?
>>51843373
Bluetooth is 2.4ghz RF buddy, just a protocol
>>51842289
Because artists left their share of intelligence with the engineers.
>>51846612
In the case of keyboards and mice when people say "RF" they mean proprietary RF protocols that require matching proprietary USB nubs.
>>51843231
MBPs all use Hitachi for mechanical drives.
>>51842289
Industry standard for the most part. I've built my PC and was strictly a PC user, but I now use a Mac for work. Like a few years ago all companies would have Blackberries for cell phones.
gotta admit it is a pretty based wallpaper
it's all gone downhill since you-know-who you-know-whatted.
>>51842679
a nintendo DS has a better looking pen and it works better
The artists at apple get more creative freedom than the artists at windows.
This means that OSX is designed with looks in mind, while windows is designed with functionality and compability in mind.
>>51846859
Part of his plan, to die in the golden age of apple before it all went to shit so he could be remembered as the greatest innovator.
You think a CEO would be dumb enough to not know shit about their company and release something which is against the initial point of what started them? No one with common sense would release that pencil shit, it was plotted to make steve jawbs look better. Apple is rich as fuck, so they are willing to make more dumb decisions, they already have a high reputation and applefags won't give a shit if their next idea is dumb as fuck.
>>51846860
Tbqh a resistive stylus isn't comparible to an active stylus, from a digital artist perspective
"Artistic" people like to be different and stand out to fulfill their hidden (or not so much) narcissistic craving to be noticed and liked, so they go buy the shiniest prettiest looking thing that costs the most (even though most are starving) in order to gather their social supplies
>>51846843
>delooge
>chinkpad
apply yourself
>>51842289
I think you misspelled autists
>>51842434
>introducing the Apple iGolf
>>51846962
>that costs the most
I got an iPad pro recently for my digital art production, it was actually significantly cheaper than an equivalent spec alternative. All the windows tablet PCs I looked over had worse battery life and were less portable for a higher price.
And before anyone suggests a cinteq companion/2, sure they're versatile but it's not as suitable for the purpose of quickly deploying and doing some sketches. I already have a 22HD anyway for working at home, like fuck do I want to squint at photoshop on a sub 20" display.
>>51843358
>one guy
On pivx is seems like roughly half the artists tend to use macintoshes
>>51847149
I don't think drawing gay furry diaper comics would require those specs anon, should've bought smth cheaper
>>51847192
#REKT
>>51847192
That's the point m8, the iPad pro was cheaper that it's contemporary counterparts.
Sure it might not be as flexible as another system from a tech PoV, but there is definitely a niche that it fulfills quite handily i.e. Teck illiterate professionals.
>>51847257
>there is definitely a niche that it fulfills quite handily i.e. Teck illiterate professionals.
So why are you on /g/?
>>51844337
>source used
Into the trash it goes.
>>51847286
I am a technophile as well, I just happen to earn my money from art.
Also I don't own any other apple devices, my phone is Ubuntu
>>51845062
The first half of the video shows a PC motherboard.
Apparently he's both a Mac and PC user.
What's your point?
>>51847385
>The first half of the video shows a PC motherboard.
Collecting dust on a shelf because legos are apparently too difficult for him, so he bought a mac like all retards at his intelligence level.
You can buy one without doing any research and you're pretty much guaranteed to get a good Photoshop machine.
>OSX actually scales Photoshop properly. If you have a 4K monitor, you're getting ant-sized icons in Windows
>The monitor will have wide color gamut and will generally be nice
Again, if you do some research you can probably build a better Hackintosh and buy a better Dell monitor for the same price, but Apple's target demographic is not geeks who will go through all that trouble. They walk into an Apple Store, say "I want that iMac", and they'll get everything they need.
>>51847453
I built my Mac.
>>51847385
>motherboard sitting on desk
>pc user
>macfags damage controlling this hard
POO IN THE LOO
NOT IN YOUR MOUTH
>>51847476
Are you implying a Mac user would buy a PC motherboard?
For what purpose? He has no use for it unless he has a PC.
Designer here.
All the software I want and no need to deal with windows problems. I don't want to spend time building my own workflow, if I can just buy one that's tested and works. I'm not tool crazy, I want to produce and I'm expected to produce results.
Your weird talk of overprized or whatever doesn't matter, because I make enough money to afford a new top of the line Mac in like two days.
Also, they get the bitches wet, not even joking.
I am, i don't
>>51847641
This, for an optimal creative workflow you want as simplistic a pipeline as possible. That's why macs are pretty much industry standard for non-linear video editing /animation suites.
>>51842434
looks like a boat made in fucking mspaint
>>51847641
Multimedia art student here, I see more and more graphic designers with their macbooks waiting AGES to load the most simple app, even illustrator, even newer models with ssd. meanwhile I see a lot of poorfags with their shitty Toshiba with a 5400rpm HDD inside and windows 7/8/10 is literally... Flawless. Plus don't tell me that the pipeline is easier, you have to go through many menus just to correctly connect it to a projector.
Also
>2015
>I have to tell the PC i am going to disconnect a USB drive and I actually have to wait until it gives me a green light
Fuck we got rid of this shit since windows 7, it's such a waste of time
>>51847894
Not him, but I was the guy who mentioned pipelines.
And I said that it's important to make the creative workflow simpler, I don't know where you read 'easier' from.
Mac systems are minimalist next to a Windows rig, so perfect for those working in creative industries who demand the least steps taken from -idea-> through to >-production-
>>51842289
I dunno about artists but audio people use macs because their driver does not need crutches to work on low latency
>Inb4 asio
>>51848014
Let's be serious, macs are harder to fuck up and thus they looks better in the eyes of those who usually fuck up PCs, for example "artists". But in the end, if you work daily with a computer but still can't figure out how to use it you'll always have a longer and more problematic pipeline. For example people who render a 3GB raw avi preview to show 10 seconds via YouTube instead of a 3mbps 720p h264. They just don't know what they're doing and they end up waiting a hour to upload it. But they say they're working, they're just waiting their stupid slow computer
>>51846692
Okay but the protocol used has nothing to do with the original statement
>>51842289
You ever tried to skin up on a Windows keyboard? The keys are too raised and ganja gets stuck in all the cracks! Nothing like a modern flat Mac keyboard, you can blaze up watching jewtube all day long and never misplace a phat nug.
>>51848297
I never said macs were any good for rendering, all our render suites are Windows based because you can reliably leave them while they chug along and produce the goods. More of a technicians role than a true artist though, I very specifically mention non-linear video editing because it's about making creative decisions as opposed to exporting footage with is necessarily more technical.
>>51842665
Fucking idiot
>>51842650
I love my refurbished macbook for the simple things like web browsing and normal shit. Hate all you want but you can't find a better laptop
>>51842289
autists* FTFY
>>51848460
I wasn't talking about the mere rendering, I was talking about how to render and what it means. A raw render is actually faster than an h264 render but the results is many many times bigger, obviously the idiot with a Mac doesn't understand the difference and blames the computer when it comes to upload. The most techy Mac owners are all for muh prores422
>>51848634
But the thing that is being rendered was likely dreamt up by some guy using a Mac earlier in the production pipeline. We agree that macs are a shitty choice for rendering, but that's not an artists role. The artist would have already been payed at that stage and be looking at a new brief.
because they're delusional
>>51848683
what other dumb bullshit can you spew
>>51848719
It's not my fault that you have such a boner for rendering. We were talking about creative processes originally
>>51842997
How could there be bad cooling in that?
tons of artist type software made natively for mac
don't want to use windows bc either hipster or they realize that unix is bretty gud but linux has little to no native software for design etc
just werks
>>51848683
I'm the one you were talking to, not >>51848719
Anyway you don't get what i'm saying. I used the render as an example, there are renders made just for a preview, renders that don't need render farms or technicians, but still a smart made render will be easier to distribute than the average 4GB 15secs render.
Also fuck it, you are an artist, I am a fucking artist, I made movies for festivals, expositions ecc and I think that since we have to work with computers we must know how they work. The most talented video editor, a true genius of montage and post production is still an idiot if he can't tell the difference between h264, mpeg2 and a png sequence.
whats a good DAW i can 'obtain' on linkeks
>>51848977
Pen & paper
Why do you think you need more?
Bach didn't
>>51848940
I agree man, most of this thread is a pile of shit anyway because I don't know anyone in film production/media that exclusively uses either or for an entire project, both systems have their advantages and compliment each other when used in tandem over the production cycle.
Maybe it's the small timers that are saying we are forced to choose between ONLY using one device for everything.
>>51849065
True, I mostly use windows but I should exercise more with OSX since every time I have to use it (quite often nowadays) it gives me problems, totally different philosophy probably
>>51846963
hmm, I'm wondering what drew you to the conclusion this is a chinkpad?
I'm not saying yet whether or not it is.
>>51843531
>spend a few hundred bucks
>vs a thousand dollars +
Lol.
>>51843630
>>51843642
>>51844083
>>51844149
>>51846057
Note, in America they are required to feature a nigger.
Everywhere else, not.
>>51843509
>What's the latest innovation in Windows 10? Being spied on 24/7? LOL
I'm against Apple, but this picture and that sentence has some truth, you know.
>>51842289
because Logic Pro X with Ozone 7 Advanced
>>51842346
>4k on integrated graphics
>good design
>>51843531
>dumbasses think plastic bends like metal
cant into how different materials have different properties
>>51842289
Artist reporting. (no, I don't use Macs)
Truth be told, a few years back, macs made pretty good laptops/ desktops. As far as specs go. They were a highly recognizable piece of tech, that had truly respectable specs.
People in that particular field needed good computers, but usually didn't know or care enough to research what made computers perform better. So they came to rely on Mac, because for many of them, it really was the best they'd ever used. They wrongly associated the brand name with better quality, and the form factor was just a huge bonus. Later, those same people would start art blogs, telling up and coming people in the field about macs, and the newbies took their word for it, starting the process anew. Before long, it became an "industry standard". Same exact thing happened with amateur music production.
This didn't happen in the business sector, because it wasn't full of independent people who didn't know any better buying hardware to work with. They instead usually had knowledgeable eggheads in the IT department make those decisions.
>>51851531
>This didn't happen in the business sector
Nice facts.
>>51851531
Its because computers have become a thing that everyone needs to use, but at the same time computer literacy has not gotten any better, so you have a ton of people that need to use a computer but don't know anything about them at all. These people are turned off of PCs because they the moment something doesn't work or they need to configure something its straight to Geek Squad or some other shit company like that since they don't know anything about PCs, and since they don't play video games on their computer they don't care about windows' de facto monopoly on it.
Macbooks just werk, these people just need photoshop to run, and have an internet explorer for facebook, let the os handle everything else.
>>51844445
Plus if they made it lock in software we could bypass it. Jailbreaking a mouse sounds annoying but still less retarded than having to flip the damn thing over like that
>>51845064
Hey I'm an engineer and I like starbucks.
To be fair I also like dick
>>51849427
Only right answer in the thread.
>>51842289
but they don't, all of my pixiv ecchi artists use windows xp and photoshop cs2.
>>51845000
>greater than 100% sRGB
>1.4 dE
hmmmmm
