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Mozilla is paying $15,000 to replace all of the instances of the word "slave" from the project.

Cancelled my monthly donations. What an egregious waste of funds.
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>Shut down Firefox OS
>Throw more money at SJWs

Bravo Mozzarella
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Also, as it turns out, they were getting a paycheck from having Pocket in the browser:

http://www.ghacks.net/2015/12/05/mozilla-has-a-revenue-share-agreement-with-pocket/

They mislead users by saying that they weren't paid directly by Pocket to get it integrated, but conveniently ignored that they were still being paid by including them.
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>>51822139
they even use Slave to explain their architecture.
Fuck Mozilla, seriously
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>>51823308
I think that is the point of this they want it to use more "neutral" wording
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>>51822139
Pale Moon is the future
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>>51823389
oh I thought they wanted help to remove the word from mozilla's projects documentation
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>>51823424
Pale moon is shit to icecat

At least last time I checked
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>>51823572
Well it's both really, they want all references to the word "slave" removed from the buildbot infrastructure including the images.
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>>51823389
1984
it's coming
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Mozilla has become such a fucking joke.
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>>51822139
And then what? are they going to rewrite all functions so all are equal and with the same rights and access to variables?

:P
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>>51823747
Meanwhile, at 9gag
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I'd be willing to move to pale moon if everyone else moves as well.
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>>51823931
Sandboxing is another way to call concentration camps that's why firefox doesn't have it.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

holy shit.
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>modern mozilla
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>>51822139
Wait, what the fuck are they gonna call them, then? Subordinates? Free associates?

This some C+Equality level bullshit.
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>>51822139

feminism and sjws are killing technology and gaming one step at a time.
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>>51822139
I can't justify this and I a love Firefox.

Still not pushes me over the edge, but if they continue like this...
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>>51822139
That shit reminds me of that github project about removing every "triggering" word from text passages/source code. Anyone remember/got link?
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Someone should fork the current Firefox to have a version with the word "slave" everywhere
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>>51823995
I kek'd

>You know, Hitler had sandboxes he made the Jews play in
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>>51823424
Pale Moon for OS X when?
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>>51823633
You never checked it, so it must have been around 14 years ago.
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>>51823946
i already am
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>>51824101
Rename tabs to slaves.
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>>51824069
"replicants". No, seriously.
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>>51824101
>Someone should fork the current Firefox
Let's do it.
I'll start work on the logo.
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>>51824085
http://www.palemoon.org/palemoon-win64.shtml
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>>51824101
>Someone should
based /g/
seriously, someone should remove RMS from the sticky and add "someone"; it's just the better mascot
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>>51824111
Compile it yourself, it's open-source.
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>>51823946
A lot of /g/ is already using it (including myself). Don't know why you want crowd approval though.
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>>51824136
exactly. the only 64-bit browser for windows without bloat. pale meme is dank.
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>>51822139
ffs
for i in /*; do sed 's/slave/stupid/g'; done
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>>51822139
>Mozilla is paying $15,000 to replace all of the instances of the word "slave" from the project.
jesus, i feel bad now even using a browser based on mozilla code
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>>51824166
but anon if you just do that then some feminists don't get the $15k.
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>>51824166
It's not exactly that easy because there are images and probably documents in various formats like pdf and shit that have to be redone as well. Also the files aren't necessarily in one place either you might have to do that for hundreds/thousands of files.
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>>51824166
Just do the images and collect your 15k
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>>51824132
What? That makes no fucking sense. Master-Slave is a simple, easy to understand relationship that assigns powers and responsibilities. The fuck does Master-Replicant mean? The Replicant is a copy of the master? That makes no fucking sense.
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>>51824372
It may not make any sense but at least it's not offensive!

Why didn't they just use something simple like boss and subordinate?
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>>51824114
There was no 264 support on YouTube last time I checked
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>>51823734
I want to get off
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>>51824415
how about dom and sub?
ruler and peasant?
pimp and whore?
man and woman?
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That's why i switched to seamonkey

>fork of mozilla products from back when they were still good
>project aimed to preserve the conservative user interface from the good old days where everything was clear and simple without functionalities hidden behind thousands of separate menus
>best foss mail client on the market, with interface familiar to classic Microsoft Outlook
and of course
>absolutely no involvement in political bullshit that do nothing but waste money and time
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>>51824136
Thanks, uninstalling Jewfox
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>>51824474
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>>51824474
top kek
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>>51824101
SlaveFox
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>>51824591
It could have a nigger slave theme.
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>>51824493
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/
>addons.mozilla.org

No thanks. I'd rather use Internet Explorer and leave the entire web in the past.
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my god
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>>51824136
can I continue using my current Firefox profile?
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>>51822139
fuuuuck, why are they doing this? whyyyy?
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>>51822139
I feel bad for you guys. What the actual fuck is Mozilla doing? How did it come to this? Kill all the SJWs.
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Sooo, pale moon it is ?
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mozilla is dead to me

how did it go so wrong, /g/?
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>>51824615
It's just a place to host.
And a lot of firefox addons work under seamonkey just fine (ublock, umatrix, etc)
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I left the Mozilla botnet and went to the Google Chrome botnet. At least they only cater to advertisers instead of SJW nuts.
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>>51824673
Pale moon is based on Mozilla Firefox you retard
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>>51824718
>imblying
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wait, so calling something a slave is considered offensive nowadays?
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>>51824718
There's no large company that doesn't cater to SJWs, Google included.
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>>51824749
So what you stupid shit ?
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>>51824749
Pale Moon is Firefox without SJWs.
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>>51824372
If they follow what Django did, they'll have Primary-Replicant.
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>>51824194
well, they should've used vector graphics anyways, then this would work as well
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Please I want to get off Mozilla's wild ride
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>>51824132
"Replicants", really? As in the robots used as slave labor in Blade Runner? That's offensive.
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>>51824848
All exits are just disguised entrances.
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>>51824861
Tweet that Mozilla doesn't really care.
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>>51824080
>gaming
literally nobody cares
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>>51824894
Fuck you, gamergate is going to save video games from SJWs and Jews.,
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What is the point? I don't fucking understand.

I really don't fucking understand the point of this.
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>>51824101
Please this,

Slave fox with slave tabs nigger theme and tits buttons.
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>>51823633
Icecat is firefox with a different logo
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>>51824934
get fucked, sexist bigot
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>>51824935
it explains why firefox hasn't progressed in the last 4 years though. the company has become a joke. this is what happens when you let feminists have too much power
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>>51824935
There's no real point.
It's just so people "feel good".
Do gooders is what will bring end to our civilisation
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>>51824935
Their thinking is probably that it trivializes the concept of slavery so the use of the term should be discouraged.

They could just use something fictional like "zombie" instead.
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It's 2015 for goodness sake
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>>51824989
>not posting the pic
It's like you still live in the wrong side of history, mate1
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>>51824950
intentially using it in an offensive way will only serve as fuel/justification for their retardation
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>>51825046
i need them to comprehend that this won't make the browser faster or better on any way and it's just a waste of resources.
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by demonizing slavery, we are letting ISIS win
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>>51825082
they clearly don't care anymore
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>paying $15,000 for a small program that searches files and replaces the word slave

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

What the fuck is Mozilla doing with all the money? Do they have money growing on trees now?
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>>51823633
>icecat
>2015
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnuzilla/2015-09/msg00011.html
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>>51824958
>being an sjw
Kill yourself
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>>51825186
They have money flowing out their pockets, if you know what I mean :^)
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>>51825218
>they charge themselves $15k fee for doing <10 minutes of work
Literally living the dream.
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>>51824493
>fork of mozilla products
It still uses the same core as Firefox. When XUL is kill, so is SeaMonkey.
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>>51824950
>nigger
No, Arab themed.
I'm sick of muslims playing the victim card all the time and not getting any shit for slavery when they were orders of magnitude worse than Europeans.
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>>https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/
Oh My God !!!

fuck this gay earth, wtf is wrong with the master-slave nomenclature? words are only as bad as their usage... next step is removing all traces of the word "put" because the previously called function was not "canIPutItIn" so it's rape...

>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
>kill me pls
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>>51824136
>win64
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>>51825306
I don't know how to do an arab theme but a nigger theme is just a dark one :P
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This is embezzlement of funds. Plain and simple.
They're allocating an absurdly large amount of money for a simple (but completely pointless) project.
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>>51822139
>>51823308
politics aside, worker would be a better term than slave here 2bh

"slave" usually implies master/slave database architecture where slave really means "hot standby", while "worker" typically refers to worker threads, which is what this is
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>>51822139
OMG pls remove "bus" from all operating systems, drivers and motherboards because I was literally almost raped in a bus IRL!
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>>51822139
That can't be real.

https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/12/10/mozilla-open-source-support-first-awards-made/

>It's real
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>>51825306
> were
There plenty of slaves in muslim countries even today
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>>51825319
>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
We were never trolls

I'd bet most of us used mozilla too, we were just aware of the situation sooner that's all
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>>51825429
Then explain master and slave harddrives
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>>51825319
>>mfw the "Mozz is SJW" trolls in here were right
they are pretty openly pro-SJ, it's not a consipiracy
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>>51825442
Now that's interesting, where exactly ?
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brb installing pale moon
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>>51825474
it's not a useful descriptive term there either
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>>51825452
I was nudged awake when version 4 hit my desk. The changes made no sense, and as I watched with concern, the nonsense spread like a cancer.
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>>51822139
Hold on, Imma uninstall Firefox and put on palemoon
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>>51825486
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery

Many places, it's just not something most western media want to report on
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>>51825474
Master and slave doesn't even make any sense in that context, it was likely picked for a lack of a better term. Maybe primary and secondary would have been better for that.
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>>51825486
Doesn't Dubai use slave labor?

IIRC Vice did a documentary about it.
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>>51825513
Same.
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>>51825486
Pretty much any mudslime dominated country.
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>>51825486
Philippino maids in Saudi Arabia are basically slaves. They go there to find work, get into a home and their "employers" confiscate their passports, rape them and abuse them. Google it. Also, this happens everywhere.Hong Kong, London, Moscow.

Also, slavery exists in the U.S. Obviously you don't hear about it unless you do some actual research, it helps if you have access to sociology journals. There have been cases of Mexican migrant workers being held hostage on Orange farms in Florida, their passports get taken away and they get put under armed guard and are forced to work for free. There are organisations that try combat this problem but most people don't really believe it's happening.
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>>51825598
The master drive receives a command via the bus and then relays it to the appropriate disk (one of its slaves), making it do the job FOR NO REMUNERATION. Hence, master and slave.
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>>51825613
Slavery eh?

They make more money in Saudi than they ever would working in the Phillipines.

Also, there is no room for abuse in an Islamic country. True facts: my aunt reported an attempted rape case, turns out the man had previous history, and they protected her. Muslim hosts are actually very nice, as long as you respect their customs.
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>>51825557
wut, I didn't know it was so widespread
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>>51825637
Mudslime detected. Abuse of foreign workers in Saudi Arabia and Dubai is pretty well documented.
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>>51825637
Fuck off. Go read my link post above

http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Slavery

There are 100000s slaves in muslim countries

Also, trying to convince us they give a shit about women's rights or foreigners for that matter is retarded

There are so many examples of how women lack even the most basic rights, the same goes for foreigners
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>>51824687
Sjw managed to manifest themselves into the project.

Its really, really sad.

After 12 years of using Mozilla and then Firefox and all its name changes, I left for chrome.

Might as well use the real botnet instead of a terrible clone.

Use to use pale moon but to many sites are broken on it due to missing features.
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>>51825620
the term is still ambiguous, when i read "master/slave architecture" i don't know if the documentation means "replicated state machine", "system that decides jobs / system that runs jobs", or something else. this is an important distinction. the terms "[primary|master]/[secondary|replica]" or "[master|dispatcher]/worker" are not ambiguous and should be used instead
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>>51825637
compensation is irrelevant. if you can't stop working of your own volition, it is - literally - the textbook definition of slavery.
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>>51825637
Mudslime countries are not nice especially not for women and foreigners, you must be delusional or living in one of them if you actually believe that.
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>>51825212
>le SJW boogieman
your truly worse than hitler
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>>51824136
does noscript work?
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>>51824135
Nice! I'll come up with ideas for someone else to implement, but I already have a few.
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>>51825728
>claiming SJW boogeyman are meme
>in a thread that's literally about SJW ruining mozilla
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>>51825691
Actually, I have no clue what you are talking about. Master slave provides an easy frame of reference to the separation of labour between the components, whose exact nature doesn't matter because the important part of the architecture is no the nature of the slave but rather it's relationship to the master. Calling it a replica need no imply it's lower or higher than the original, secondary instills no reference to their interelationship as secondary systems need not be dependent on the primary ones, and worker doesn't describe the fact the relationship is constant and fixed rather than a resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved.

Master-slave is the clearest of them all for just about all systems.
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>>51825637
Like I said, many of them get their passports confiscated and are kept there regardless of what whether they want to leave or not. If they're in a good home, of course they earn more. If they are not (which is often the case) they don't earn anything at all and are mistreated on top of that. So no, they are not better off.
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>>51825688
>Use to use pale moon but to many sites are broken on it due to missing features.
What's causing those failures ?
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>>51825764
yeah sure SJW are the problem, not Trump declarations about internet or everything Trump does
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>>51825637
Nope, I worked as an engineer for the military in Saudi Arabia.
When I went out to the country sides I would encounter Asians who would give me letters to give to there families, because there "nice hosts" took there passports. The women where treated the worst compared to the men, as well.
Take you head off the floor, muhammad, and educate yourself.
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>>51825797
BUILD WALL JUAN
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>>51825783
It has no bleeding edge draft support, not much new CSS3, HTML5 or ES6 and ES7 Javascript features. It has no full Javascript promises implementation.

Most new sites or updates of sites require that features, if those can not be ported into Pale Moon's ESR 24 codebase it will be incompatible with all modern webpages.
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>>51825797
>dat derailing

Who said anything about Trump except you?

That other poster mentioned how SJW are ruining tech and gaming

You responded by calling him sexist and claiming SJW boogeymen are meme

In a thread about SJW ruining a once great software company...

Whether Trump is a moron or not has zero to do with this thread
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>>51825835
Trump and his /pol/ supporters are what make 4chan shit
literally just delete /pol/
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>>51825764

SJWs got the co-founder of the Mozilla project and inventor of JavaScript to step down as CEO by inciting an online mob over a personal donation he made in 2008.

They already won. The current CEO responded to an anonymous post from a Mozilla employee about how "social justice" is stealing the focus of the company by saying that he will find out who posted it and have them fired immediately.

Anyone who says SJWs aren't a problem is either an SJW or willfully ignorant of current events.
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just be willing to suspend your scorn in a year from now

firefox/mozilla are going to be horrible organisations and browsers for at least another full year but then they'll come back with SERVO and wipe the floor with gecko/chromium/etc
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>>51825850
>You responded by calling him sexist
where?
make a reasonable claim /pol/
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>>51825776
i'm not sure you actually work in technology, all of the terms i described have consistent and unambiguous terms in industry

>Master slave provides an easy frame of reference to the separation of labour between the components
so do the other terms

>whose exact nature doesn't matter because the important part of the architecture is no the nature of the slave but rather it's relationship to the master
this is so wrong it's comical

>Calling it a replica need no imply it's lower or higher than the original
... no? it's pretty obviously "lower", since it's not the authoritative source

>secondary instills no reference to their interelationship as secondary systems need not be dependent on the primary ones
not how the term is used

>worker doesn't describe the fact the relationship is constant and fixed rather than a resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved
ok, no. that is not how the term "worker" is used. a "resource to be used by whichever superior might be involved" is typically called a "resource"
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I already moved to Chrome some years ago but that was when I was using Linux and flash got put on life support for anything but Chrome.

Now I'm waiting for extensions in Edge and I'll happily just use that instead.
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As a Firefox and Thunderbird user this is embarrassing on a few levels, 1 on a personal level, the fact these people are so insecure and immature about a standard term and 2 on a professional level, this is straight up some straight up dubious money laundering tier idiocy, "oh yeah we need 15k to find replace".

I try very hard to separate a product from the producer but they are trying even harder to get me to stop using their product, I've already given up on supporting and promoting it out of sheer embarrassment, this is so far from the Netscape days.
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>>51825869
Sure, but it will be a Chrome clone, no complex extensions, no complex themes, no customization.
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is django part of this mess?
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>>51825865
>They already won. The current CEO responded to an anonymous post from a Mozilla employee about how "social justice" is stealing the focus of the company by saying that he will find out who posted it and have them fired immediately.
there's an interesting, well established solution to problems such as unjustified firings... they are called "unions"
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>>51825869
When servo is released and there's like a million projects using it like there are for webkit that's probably when I'm going to move away from firefox. The leadership at Mozilla is incompetent and I stopped caring about them years ago.
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>>51825869
And no, they will never beat Chromium. Mozilla tries hard to emulate Blink, but they will never succeed. A copycat company can never outsmart real developers! Perhaps they come close, but they will always lose.

And Mozilla has zero ideas on their own. All of their plan is to be like Google Chrome.
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>>51825883
here

>>51824958
Now fuck off back to plebbit
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>>51825916
And how do you know the union isn't SJW?
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>>51825927
that's not me :^)
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>>51825776
Primary / secondary or scheduler / worker are more semantically meaningful.
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>>51825934
>using the caret nose
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>>51825931
easy. because there isn't one
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>>51822139
this is fucking ridiculous...
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This is a very important task unlike working on e10s or other technical issues. Software has always been about politics first, technology second right? Mozilla is overflowing with volunteers too so they have the resources to throw away of course.
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>>51825946
>falling for obvious bait
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>>51825869
>wipe the floor with chrome
I'll take things that will never happen for 500
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>>51825869
Why using Firefox? Mozilla is not only SJW, they are anti ricing these days too. Servo will be the final nail in the coffin of a proud Open Source project.

You hope you can change something in Servo? Keep on dreaming.
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>>51822139
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdkqP2GwWo

WOO WOO WOO WOO
SOCIAL JUSTICE 1 2 3
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>>51825968
>implying the caret nose meme response isn't standard on /g/
Hello newfriend
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>>51825964
>Software has always been about politics first, technology second right?
most FOSS organizations have either corporate or ideological motivations, that's why they exist.
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>>51825923

I used to think "Mozilla copying Google" was a meme, but over the last few years they stole Chrome's UI, adopted Chrome's extension format, created a "web-based OS" just like ChromeOS, started merging patches from Chrome (like the image scaling algorithm from a few years ago), etc.

Add in the ads they put in the speed dial and the sponsored extensions that get bundled with the browser and Mozilla seems to have zero interest in giving their audience what they want, and is solely focused on making more money no matter what.

Plus what, two years ago, they bought a new office in the middle of Paris with gold leaf decor to show off how much money they're wasting. (Pic related)

Anyone who's still supporting this joke of an organization needs to get a clue.
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>>51825890
-Work as an engineer, not a Mozilla developer, so maybe?
-No they do not, as described
-Repeating it won't make it true.
-No it isn't. Replica's having equal authority isn't something new in terminology, as they are are merely copies which, generally, either try to keep consistent with the original but can do things on their own or just out right ignore it.
-Sure it is. Secondary cooling, control, sockets, and others are not lower in importance but meant as replacements to a system should it fail. The term secondary express nothing about of authority but rather the order of usage. After all, when you boot a computer and you say your secondary boot source is your USB you aren't saying your USB boot is under the control of your hard drive. That's retarded.
-Exactly, you have to add your own little explanation as to what it means in order for it to make sense.

TL;DR: get fucked, C+Equality programmer.

>>51825942
No they aren't, they are ambiguous ot the nature of the systems and convey no information that cannot be surmised from Master/Slave.
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>>51825942
Which is why they're not usable as opposed to master/slave to describe the nature of the relationship (it would be like calling all felines "cats" despite the fact that lions are not cats).
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>>51825968
>I was only pretending
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>Bro: $200,000. Bro is network monitoring software, which is at the heart of Mozilla’s intrusion detection system for our network. Their award will be used to build the Comprehensive Bro Archive Network, a public repository of modules and plugins for Bro.
>Bro

This word has a gender problem. It comes of misogynistic and unprofessional due to the world it lives in.
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>>51825869
>>51825986
I want to fucking die, a web browser is the most important piece of software for me, I use it more than anything. Firefox has progressively been getting worse, I don't even understand how that's possible. Opera is dead so even if it was better at some point it's not like I can switch to it now, everything using webkit seems so fucking slow and memory intensive that I can't stand it. Firefox was the only sane one left for a while and they're progressively getting more insane and less good.
>lol lets remove extensions
Fuck me.
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>>51826051
to extend your analogy:
'master/slave' => 'feline'
'primary/secondary' => 'cat'
'scheduler/worker' => 'lion'
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>>51826067

I don't know if you're joking but Mozilla actually renamed the file extension for Brotlie from ".bro" to ".br" specifically to address the sexism complaints they got about it.

This isn't a joke anymore. This is reality.
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>>51826092
>opera is dead
Don't remind me. It's too hard.
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>>51826027
Yeah! And people like you cursed and humiliated the likes of me for telling you that that would happen!

It is always the same. People are in denial and then they turn sides 180 degree when they have realized that they have been raping by Mozilla all along.

Btw. Their money contract goes to hell once Yahoo is split off. Expect them to be without money in maximum one year away or less.
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>>51826105
I don't think I can take it anymore.
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>>51826092
>>51826112

If you guys like a little botnet, there is vivaldi waiting. Yes it's really early in development now but it's slowly getting there, one snapshot at a time. At least developers focus on right things and they hired most of old Opera people.
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>>51826105
i know your intentions are good senpai but he literally used a quote from the mailing list with the faggot google and mozilla engineers
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>>51825865
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What the fuck is going on with this recent trend of inclusivity in every field? Why cater to people who don't actually matter to you? People that are offended by the world "slave" are not worth working with in my opinion, those seem like troublemakers who waste project money on nonsense like this. People who demand change without the ability to do it themselves so they tell others to do it for them, what a credit to the project. People of value are able to look past things like this since they don't actually matter when considering the scope of your work.
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>>51826105
wew lad
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>>51826042
this isn't even a /pol/-tier post, it's a /b/ post

>-No it isn't. Replica's having equal authority isn't something new in terminology, as they are are merely copies which, generally, either try to keep consistent with the original but can do things on their own or just out right ignore it.
...what? what kind of "replica" tracks changes while ignoring demands? that makes no fucking sense. show me a system that does this

>-Repeating it won't make it true.
>semantic meaning is bad!

>Secondary cooling, control, sockets, and others are not lower in importance but meant as replacements to a system should it fail
...yes they are. secondary systems are used as a backup or fallback. that what the term 'secondary' means.

>-Exactly, you have to add your own little explanation as to what it means in order for it to make sense.
that's just the industry definition, stated since you seemed unaware

>they are ambiguous
they are not ambiguous, they are terms with well-defined conventional usage
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I have had an annual donation to Mozilla since 2007, because I liked the work they did and the causes they supported.
Wasting $15,000 on shit like makes me a little angry.
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>>51826204
>People who demand change without the ability to do it themselves
but they can do it themselves? that's why they are doing it

>>51826105
funny, since 'bro' is a word out of the SJW playbook. how does brazil feel about this? (^:
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>>51824934
lol
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>>51826204

One of the biggest reasons companies like Microsoft, Apple and Google are pushing inclusivity because the more people that get into the labor pool, the lower the cost of labor gets.

The problem is that they are perpetuating a negative stereotype about women by implying that the only way to get women involved in tech is to treat them like children. Of course most of the people championing inclusivity are actually white males, so this isn't much of a surprise. They're speaking on behalf of a group they aren't a part of and making fools of themselves in the process.
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>gave monthly donations to Mozilla
>gave even a penny to Mozilla in the last five years

You fucked up, assuming you're not baiting. And this is coming from someone who has donated to the Debian project, even though I don't use Debian (but I used Debian-based distros).
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>>51826155
Wait, it's just essentially opera with a shittier UI? And what's this of a botnet?
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>>51826252
>your entire sum of donations could be wasted on this
I'm sorry it had to be this way.
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I remember in 2005 or so the state of california tried to do this for ide drives which showed how out of the loop they were.

Now it's a dumb fucking meme to try to pretend you're egalitarian.
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>>51826204
I doubt someone actually complained and said they were offended by it.
This kind of shit always comes from HR or other useless departments with too much time on their hands that worry someone MIGHT be offended.
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>>51826293
>the state of california

Why don't we just nuke that fucking place out of existence?
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>>51826042
>C+Equality
this was satire btw
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>>51826286
Didn't Debian spend a shitload of money on a women's outreach program which made them cancel other real efforts?
I will never understand the mentality of trying to bring in people who obviously do not want to work in the field into your field. That shit really blows my mind, like no amount of training is going to force people to want to work for you.

I'm not slagging on Debian but that was a dumb move if it was them.
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>>51825797
So... SJWs ruined another project with their incompetence and everyone should vote for Trump in 2016.
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>>51826280
>Of course most of the people championing inclusivity are actually white males

Pic related, XOXO Festival, the largest social justice-oriented tech conference in the US.
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>>51826204
>Why cater to people who don't actually matter to you?
women spend more money than men; catering to women is the correct capitalist response. see: the advertising industry
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Pale Moon here I come.
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>>51826341
I'm a fetishist with a girlfriend who regularly plays master/slave.

I feel offended by mozilla trying to makeo ut voluntary passtime's terminology a taboo. After all, the word slave in the context of IT has nothing to do with the immoral kind of slaves, yet it's being banned. By that same logic, her being my slave (voluntarily) is also being targeted by mozilla.

Mozilla confirmed bigoted, intolerant, censoring assholes.
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>>51826280
This is affirmative action all over again. They should ask the black communities how that turned out for them and how they feel about being marginalized.
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>>51826345

It was Gnome Foundation. In 2013 they spent 50% of their annual budget on the OPW (Outreach Program for Women) which ended up causing a shortage of funds going into 2014.
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>>51826381
*to make our
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>>51826194
>See all this shit happen in public with loads of sources corroborating on the same story
>Acknowledging it is somehow being "paranoid"
Right... I'm guessing you're a recent arrival from Reddit?

But yeah... I expect nothing less from a company which GENUINELY did proceeded to actually enforce what was essentially thought crime. At least this time it's just tens of thousands in money that could actually be used for some useful features or improvements going down the drain rather than hiring people to just goof off based on their gender and/or race.
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>>51826384
at least try

>They should ask the black communities how that turned out for them
it turned out pretty well for them. turns out resource allocation from A -> B is beneficial for B

>and how they feel about being marginalized.
they dislike being marginalized, which is why they want affirmative action
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>>51826372
In this case it makes for a worse product though which means less investment opportunities for Mozilla as well as more costs since they have to take on more people inherently and also take in even more to accommodate for the slack. Am I wrong about that?
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>>51826412
Affirmative Action is nothing but class White Savior Complex.
The cis white males come along and tell everybody that the only way people of color can achieve anything is if the white man helps them.
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>>51826345
>>51826387
That's right my mistake. I think this confused me
https://www.debian.org/women/
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>>51826240
-You serious don't know about Multi-master replication?
-Again, repeating it won't make it true.
-Make a secondary system be of lower importance in any real project and they manager will smack you for making your fallback be a liability.
-One that has existed for less than 10 years at the insitance of C+E programmers which still requires a little note which amounts to "worker means slave, ok?".
-They are ambigious as replacements of Master/Slave because they don't mean the same thing, nigga.

>>51826341
I know, I contributed to the "project", then saw people take it seriously, then claim they were never serious about taking it seriously.

>>51826387
I never gotten a response as to what, exactly, where those funds going towards. Of all the things in GNOME, that's the one blackhole you can never know what the fuck happened to the money.

>>51826412
They have the lowest graduation rates, the lowest post-university employment rates, the lowest post-university pay, and a bunch of other things because now people presume, correctly, they are lower quality students being allowed in due to their race in a good deal of the cases. This is coming from a Spic, by the way.
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>>51825637
t. Ahmed AbuGoatfiddallah

Nice taqiyyah
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>>51826430
>mfw SJWs have been the real racists all along
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>>51826418
>In this case it makes for a worse product [...]
does it? if so, does it make the product worse enough to matter? advertising and value signalling are often far more valuable in maximizing dollars than product quality.

>>51826381
post pics
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>>51826412
For some reason I dobut you're being serious and am not going to give you the benefit of the doubt, I think you're intentionally trying to start an argument to pass the time. I'm sorry but I hope you understand given the place we're at.
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>>51826456
You're probably right unfortunately, I was in an absolute and ideal mindset not a real, current, and practical mindset.
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>>51822139
What the goddamn fucking shit is this madness

I'm so fucking glad I jumped ship to vivaldi and took the addons I develop with me
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>>51824132
>replicant
I do believe you, but I need a source for a friend of mine not so trusting.
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>>51825869
Have you even tried the servo branch? Sure it's a much cleaner code base but it is also much slower than todays firefox (not to mention buggy but that is to be expected since it's pre-release and it's lacking some features).
And when I say slower i really mean slow-ass-molasses-crap, like, the graphs used in some media news a few months ago claiming improved threaded performance comparison are blatant lies!

All Mozilla had were the the loyal community, most programmers, that liked their course of actions, now it looks like this is the end...
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>>51826448
People have been trying to warn others about this forever, that's the entire history of affirmative action, in the end it always turns out bad for the people you are "supporting".
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>>51825840
>It has no full Javascript promises implementation.
http://git.io/v0GrY
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>>51826204
When you attack the whole idea of "must have equal representation no matter what the actual available labor pool looks like" by bringing up dirty, physically demanding or just downright dangerous jobs that are male dominated the people who push this idea usually crack and reveal the true purpose of it.

Basically what they end up explaining is that it's not actually about equal representation of genders and races in general, but rather getting more women and non white or asian into cushy well paid jobs that are right now dominated by white and asian men.

Then there's also businesses that have grabbed onto this in their eternal conquest to drive down the costs of labor and are seeing an opportunity to lower the cost of the domestic labor pool by just flooding it with people who otherwise wouldn't be interested.
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>>51826491
>slow as shit
Is it written in Rust? All I hear from people using it is that it's slow which is not what Mozilla keeps saying.
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>>51826403
>Reddit
You seem to have forgotten that 4chan used to be progressive and Reddit far right conservative? Maybe it's time you went back to your people senpai
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>>51826448
Of course. Listen to their rhetoric.
>We need affirmative action so people of color can get jobs
They imply that blacks are lesser than whites and need assistance to achieve anything.

>we need more STEM classes for girls
They imply women are lesser than males and need assistance to achieve anything
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And this pic shows what Mozilla thinks about Mozilla based projects which do not want to discard all features!
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>>51825853
4chan has always been contrarian. Newfag is new.
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>>51826519
>4chan
>Progressive
>With pretty much all the early memes except the animal related ones being racist as shit
Remember shoop da woop?

Seriously thou, 4chan hasn't been anywhere near progressive since at least 2010.
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Did any black person ever actually say they feel uncomfortable about master/slave terminology? Is it worth getting rid of a well-established, useful piece of jargon if it makes us feel a little bit better about the world? Do we need to eliminate words from our language when they have alternate meanings that remind us of bad stuff that happened?

I wonder how many more Talent of Color will feel more comfortable getting into systems programming because their white coworkers aren't calling inanimate objects "master" and "slave" anymore.
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>>51826565
That's thoughtcrime, senpai.
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>>51826436
>-You serious don't know about Multi-master replication?
the terminology "[primary|master]/replica" isn't used in that context. multi-master replication doesn't involve "replicas" at all - that's the entire point.

>-Again, repeating it won't make it true.
so, you are seriously trying to argue that semantic meanings are useless? what is the point of language at all then?

>-Make a secondary system be of lower importance in any real project and they manager will smack you for making your fallback be a liability.
well, yeah, you want your secondaries to work. not sure what you mean here. the usage order is still primary -> secondary.

>-One that has existed for less than 10 years at the insitance of C+E programmers which still requires a little note which amounts to "worker means slave, ok?".
incorrect. read any old book on systems programming, among other things
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>>51826560
Racist jokes is not racism. Good try, though.
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>>51826521
>>51826448
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>>51826519
>4chan used to be progressive

4chan has never been progressive, at least not in the way you're thinking.

I mean hell, some of the oldest memes on the site are about racism, pedophilia, rape, and sexism.
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>>51826609
This places going to shit too, fucking word filters already infecting everything.
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>>51826457
that was the typical response you'd get if you "asked the black communities how that turned out for them", not really my personal beliefs.

>>51826506
>Basically what they end up explaining is that it's not actually about equal representation of genders and races in general, but rather getting more women and non white or asian into cushy well paid jobs that are right now dominated by white and asian men.
you have to understand that most SJ types are also pro-socialism/communism, wealth redistribution is part of the point.
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>>51826617
>being upset over word filters
Y'all niggas really are new as fuck, aren't you?
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>>51825743
Yes, most addons do

>>51825369
http://linux.palemoon.org/
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>>51826617
>word filters
>a new thing
pick 1
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>>51825728
*you're

Why are SJWs so fucking illiterate?
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PERFECT

JUST FUCKING PERFECT

THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WAS OPPRESSING BLACKS FOR YEARS

COMPUTER BOUND CODING AND PROPER USAGE OF THE WORD SLAVE

BLACK AMERICA REJOICE

FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST

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WE HAVE COME TO RELEASE YOU FROM YOUR BONDS ONCE AGAIN
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>>51826560

Even the animal related ones were bad. Pedobear glorified sex with children. Pretty much all of the lingo was, and continues to be, homophobic (fag suffix on pretty much everything).

4chan has been pretty much the same since day one, creating intentionally offensive content to get a rise out of people. The only difference is that people blame the /pol/ boogieman instead of the /b/ boogieman now.
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>>51825369
Like I look at GNU + Linux as trustworthy after they pulled the systemd faggotry. Nope. I trust Windows 7 more than Debian 8.
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>>51826617
go back to reddit
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>>51826661
I miss the days of when tor was safe to browser, not it's a literal honey pot.
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>>51826641
>Yes, most addons do
No, they do not. Palemoon is now WILDLY different from regular firefox and most addons don't work right in it at all. Palemoon also has a different program identifier so technically addons are not even supposed to work in it unless they're specifically designed to.

Palemoon is really not worth switching to unless you want the entire point of firefox (addons) to be completely undone.
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>>51826641
>http://linux.palemoon.org/
>not realizing I was pissing on him revealing himself as a crossboarder by unprovokedly linking to the Windows version
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>>51826565
This whole "must do ridiculous shit because somebody might get offended" is for the most part just white people wanting to feel good about themselves by trying to follow what their white guilt complex tells them to.

I remember talking to a white guy who was a SJW a few years ago and he motivated basically giving black people the red carpet treatment with feeling guilty about what white people had done in the past. When I told him I don't feel the least bit guilty about something I could not have had any kind of control over and the only connection to the people who did all those awful things is that I'm born the same race he told me something that really opened my eyes to the SJW mentality.

Basically what he said was that he thought it would be a tragedy if everyone thought like me as then the progress of social justice would stop and people would no longer donate money to charities or foreign aid.

What I realized from that is that SJW:ism is basically a combination of white guilt and the same kind of "If people didn't follow the bible society would fall apart"-thinking that religious people use to fight atheism.
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>>51826519
it was left-leaning but not progressive
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>>51826687
And that's why ssl and letsencrypt are a nice thing. Once https is default everywhere, there will be no such issue.
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>>51826590
>doesn't involve replicas
You were cute before you acted stupid.
>What's the point of language
To allow for the easy transmission of ideas in ways that are flexible enough to be understood by most speakers.
>primary -> secondary
Which doesn't imply a hierarchy of authority. Secondary systems can work under, complement, or be alternatives to.
>read any old book on systems programming
Feel free to share one that uses it with that specific meaning.

>>51826617
>not being there for the great filter wars of /b/

Those were some times.

>>51826687
It's prefectly safe if you aren't a retard.
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>>51826617
inb4 I was only pretending
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>>51826689
Soon your addons will not work anymore. Servo API will only replace limited functionality, most complex things which can be done right now are not working there anymore.

Say goodbye to almost every single piece of UI customization or general customization.
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>>51826650
>>51826632
Word filters were always retarded. Just because one thing was always bad doesn't mean it should suddenly be considered good just because it has happened for a long time.
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>>51826657
>being this new
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>>51826692
>crossborder
I have been here all summer, faggot.
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>>51826661
>Pretty much all of the lingo was, and continues to be, homophobic (fag suffix on pretty much everything).
"fag" and "faggot" have nothing to do with homosexuality anymore. Get with the times, gramps.
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>>51826650
Every time they were enabled they have been total cancer, i know they aren't new but that doesn't make them any better.
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>>51826560
Been here since 2006, it's never ever been progressive.

We only fucked with scientology because it was funny.
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