>you're now realizing the only way to leave humanity behind is by taking lots of gear
Face it. You're only "natural" because you're afraid of taking steroids due to side effects. News flash. When taking steroids correctly, they objectively become the lease harmful drug you can take. That includes pot and coffee. You will never go anywhere with weightlifting as a natural lifter. You will plateau at a 275lb bench press, which is my warmup weight. Either get serious, or just fuck off. Because 16 year olds now a days are cycling gear and are bigger and stronger than you. You really think you can "make it", when a 16 year old out lifts you on everything? Lmao.
You can always do an On/Off cycle routine instead of Cruise and Blast and still look godly. Problem is, once a roider sees the results, they want to blast and cruise forever.
>>37541836
Taking roids ia the equivilient of getting penis enlargement surgery.
Probably the saddest thing you can do.
Just shows your inferiority,
Stop trying to go here and get people to tell you that its completely normal and cool to do roids. You are a weak minded faggot
Kill yourself please
>>37541836
I'm not scared of sides, I know it's pretty darn safe but I'm in my late 20s and still making progress after a couple years. Also still really acne prone.
I'm gonna hop on in my mid 30s after I have kids and my test starts to drop though. I see no reason not to take a decent/high dose of trt
>>37541875
You're the type of person that thinks steroids are a magic pill you take and over night you turn into the hulk. Most gym rats have done a cycle, but you'd never know because they train like shit, eat like shit, and generally just don't put all their effort in. That guy at the gym that's big and shredded, that guy that you just dismiss as a roid head because he obviously takes gear, those of the types of guys that are more dedicated, focused and motivated than you or anyone else in the gym. You arguably have the work harder on gear than a natty if you want to take steroids to their full potential. So enjoy being the anxiety ridden pipsqueek that judges us gym monsters anonymously online. I'll continue kicking ass in the gym and walking past small fuck bois like you that think they're superior for being "natural".
>>37541836
Here's the secret to using gear with few to no side effects and make good gains.
250 mg test e E3D w/ aromasin 25 mg
Doing just test will give you the most gains with the least side effects.
You also get diminishing returns with increasing dosages. So sometimes 300 mg of test e is better than 750 mg of test e in terms of health effects/gains ratio.
All I take is test now because I've come to realize that unless I'm going to compete there's rly no point in getting into a ton of different compounds.
If you're progressively overloading and eating right test is all you need. Anything else gives more aesthetic effects than actual anabolic effects.
I don't want to be sterile nor accelerate baldness.
I'll definitely cruise after my mid 30s if I already have kids and going bald anyway.
>>37541917
It is a magic pill, with shit side effects you asshole. Ofc you still have to eat well and train hard. But the effects are clearly visible if you do so.
But it doesn't change the fact that you had to resolve to roids to feel good about yourself which is pathetic. And thinking you will never feel any side effects is you being naive.
Im perfectly happy with the results i get without cheating.
Btw the natty limit is still way more attractive than roid monsters. They seriosuly look like shit
>>37542102
>no picture to show off your """""""natty gains""""""
Sorry small fry. You're equivalent to that 160lb personal trainer at the gym that criticizes training techniques of people twice his size. Get back to me when you bench 315lbs for 17 times naturally. Or when you want to man up and show us your 'gains'. Lol
Who cares, m8, lifting isn't my entire life and I can get to an acceptable level natty
>>37542215
>literally no arguments
>having to resort to comparing natty gains to roids gains =
>asking for pictures without posting one yourself
>saying big people cant have bad form
I weigh 205 lbs and i can bench 315 for 1 rpm, not gonna post picture. Gains i got in a respectable amount of time, gained about 30 lbs i 8 months which i am perfectly happy with, i dont live in the gym.
Fuck this bullshit.
I'll keep my large balls, full head of hair, and acne free back / face.
Also, looking like a gigantic roided up monster is not attractive or cool. It just makes you look gross. The thing about most people who use roids is that lifting becomes their life and they lose sight of why you should exercise in the first place.
>>37541836
>sacrifice your natty card just to lift more
Nah
>>37542257
SOMEONE STICKY THIS - THE DEFINITION OF NEVER MAKING IT
>>37542274
>no picture
Didnt read a single word of that btw skeleton rack. Still waiting
>>37542432
>being in this much denial
>still not posting pathetic roid gains picture, but demanding picture
>>37542449
>>37542409
That's why you stick to test.
>Minimal acne
>won't get the gross bodybuilder look
>full head of hair
>gains galore with little side effects.
A tub of protein is more expensive than a vial of test.
>>37542449
>no picture
Still waiting on that mr.skelly.
>>37542449
>>37542274
God you're sad and pathetic.
>>37542497
picsorgtfo
>>37542512
this whole thread is sad and pathetic
>>37542532
Alright
>>37542537
like roiders
>>37542075
Where you get it tho?
>>37542498
still waiting on that picture bitch tits
test e cycle with hcg at 20?
thoughts?
>>37542579
Don't want to get banned so I can't give out a source but if you hang out at fraud enough you'll eventually learn.
Or just go to reddit and search SST.
>>37542563
What's it like being that big of a guy in public?
>>37542563
damn you look good bro. did you get any sexual health gains from test?
>>37542563
>>37542563
im not the guy you're speaking to, but here is my natural gains. 1.10 years training 202ibs on my bulk im 6'2 and I do 225 for 15 reps my squat is 405 and my deadlift is 475, but havent tested my 1rm since last November
>>37542650
>people stare at me pretty much everywhere I go.
>hear people talk about me constantly
>random people stop me on the street to ask how much I bench
>neighbor exchanges info with me to get me to train him
>girls constantly mire and spill their spaghetti around me.
>Friends always asking me to help them move or go out with them
>dudes will stick their chest out and puff their lats when they see me walking.
All in all after a while it gets annoying. I used to wear tight shirts but now I wear loose clothing in hopes that I look more normal.
It gets annoying after a while, especially when I'm not feeling very social and still have people talking to me about my diet or work outs.
>>37542672
better pic of my legs cause I know because someone going to say something. Yes by 1.10 years 1 year and 10 months. I have no athletic background after the age 13. im 20 turning 21 started on my 19th birthday last year
>>37542672
You've made more progress than me in a year into it than I did. You look good and have the Steve reeves build going on.
Fit has evolved over the years. now people think you can't look good without the juice. Clearly you can with smart training and dieting.
Test just speeds things up.
>>37542663
Dick gets harder during sex, I'm hornier more often, and my orgasms are more intense.
>>37542738
thanks dude. I love old school body building, so i've been practicing stomach vacs and watched a ton of BB DVDs on youtube from 1970-present. Also Chris Jones and others help too!
>>37542696
That honestly sounds amazing
>>37542672
>>37542704
nice job dude
you should do more calf work in my opinion though
>>37542215
Whatabou you big boi? Show us you awesome enhanced physique.
>>37542792
Ima work hard on it. it's one of my weakness of being 6'2 and black because black peoples calves are inserted higher in our legs. Being tall fucked it up for me too lol. I've been doing 120-200 reps of calves 3-4 times a week past couple months. Hopefully that helps before my first show next year
Im 5'11 and im already starting to look kinda ridiculous for normies after almost 2 years of natty training. I don't want to look like an overcompensating manlet like 90% of roiders do
>>37542696
What side effects have you experienced from test?
What happens when you stop taking it?
>>37542858
Yea, it's not well suited for shorter individuals.
If you were 6'4, you'd probably think of it differently
>>37542563
nice arms but fuck those forearms look awful in proportion
>>37541836
1500 total at 21. Such my balls, cockmongler. The key is consistency in the gym and keeping your natural test as high as possible. The side effects from roids and gh will fuck you up over time. Most people on this board are sub 25 so the idea of pinning test is ridiculous at that age. If you want, see an endo at 40 to have small regular doses of test (not the insanely anabolic test levels of the average roider) to maintain virility without exploding your heart by 50
>>37542075
so 250mg test-e once every 3 days and the aromasin once every 3 days as well? that's it?
I'm trying to learn about roids for my first cycle and I was kinda set on doing 500mg test-e and also I tought you were supposed to pin daily.
>>37542792
It is a big ego boost.
I feel like there are two types of people that form when you get the amount of attention I do.
Person A: ego dies, you realize people treat you better because of your looks, you see the shallowness in the world and it begins to piss you off. You start realizing that the body you've worked so hard to maintain is a giant sand castle and it will be taken away from you eventually, so there's no point in building your ego around your body and looks.
person B: Thinks he is the shit. Becomes a bigger asshole. Bullies people because he knows he's bigger. Gives big dudes a bad name. Builds his personality around his muscles.
I like to think I'm person A. But who knows?
>>37542896
Pinning daily is for short esters like test p and tren ace to maintain stable blood levels.
Test e is every 3 days because the half life is around 7 days, where as the half life for test p is like a day.
And yes that's it. I take 8 minutes every 3 days out of my week to get a big boost to gains. It's rly a no brainier for me.
>>37542881
Acne. If I stop taking it with proper pct I'll probably go down to around 230ish from 258ish.
>>37542910
That's pretty deep bro.
Got anymore insights? I like hearing about life in the other side.
>>37542587
>still avoiding uploading his pic
Skeleton confirmed
>>37542738
damn this really makes me want to try it. Im pretty much at my natty peak 6'3 190lbs 10%bf. also have such a low libido for a 22yo
>>37542986
The whole roid rage thing is bullshit.
Juicers use that as an enabler to do be an asshole. People would never pin me for being on steroids (no pun intended) because I'm always so chill.
Fast gains or not ultimately the journey is still the same. People will debate all day about natty vs. enhanced, but at the end of the day you still have to eat right and hit the gym.
So just enjoy the journey, enjoy the process of going to the gym, enjoy the healing effects of proper nutrition and you'll make it either way.
>>37542858
pic pretty please?
>>37543020
>gyno confirmed
>>37543071
Thanks mayne, that warmed my heart (no homo).
>>37543070
Those were my stats when I started
I stopped getting morning boners. Went to the doc and my test levels were average (650 total t).
At that point I told myself that I wasn't ever going to get the physique I truly wanted with average test levels.
This was me at 195. I borderline natty here. I think I was like 1 week into my first cycle.
>>37543111
Checking those trips
Much love
>>37542599
I've seen it once or twice but giving my credit info to a dubious source on the internet, having an illegal item sent to me, and then shooting up an item from a person u never met seems too big a risk.
Can't I find a huge guy for me and say some secret code word?
>I've booked a flight
And he replies
>I have only one seat
Or something
>>37543122
mfw this is very similar to my body right now. also fuck youre an attractive dude.
>>37543103
>still running away and being this scared
>>37541836
I don't even want to lift 275lb bench. I just want to be healthy and aesthetic.
>>37543135
kekd
>>37541836
on roids right now.
>>37543135
Hahah
I started getting it locally as well. It's always going to be a bit of a risk IMO. But you can do labmax tests to at least know you're getting the real stuff.
>>37543154
Thanks man!
>>37543165
i bet you are a fucking skelly trying to protect roiders, yet to scared to do them yourself
>>37542075
>test is all you need.
only if ur testes don't work
>>37543194
>no picture yet again
>>37542563
Fuck you look like the suprememe gentleman
>>37543192
How old were you when you started? I'm in my really early 20's and don't want to screw up my body since I'm still young and recent blood work I had to get done showed I still have high T levels.
>>37543205
this is like telling a kid santa aint real. im out good luck with your impotence, bitch tits and pathetic loner life
>>37542563
Nice chest insertions
>>37543247
*unsheathes katana*
*teleports behind you*
No hard feelings kid
>>37543253
I was around 19.
I started blasting/cruising at 21
I can't roid because I have a needle phobia
>>37543282
this desu... anyway to take T without using needles?
>>37543258
>an all natural 200lb athlete that benches 315lbs refuses to show off his body, despite it taking less than 3 seconds
Yeah. Yore def anorexic and shitty at lifting. If you even lift at all. Which I'm starting you think you don't.
>>37543276
Isn't it considered unsafe to use gear before 25 or is that a meme?
>>37543306
Honestly if you're done growing and developing you're fine.
Most pros start at around my age.
>>37543297
Dude he obviously doesn't lift and looks like shit. His insecurity has been leaking through since you called him out on uploading his picture.
>>37543282
>>37543292
You'll do it if you want it bad enough
>>37543282
>>37543292
Pussies
>>37541836
>You will plateau at a 275lb bench press
Lmao. I hit 350lb as a natty.
>>37543276
Isn't it fucking gross sticking needles in your ass, getting puff pimples and shit? It just sounds so junkie to me (no offence) to stick an illegal drug into your ass through a needle.
>>37543322
Said you stopped getting morning wood before you started, if you still were would that have made you wait til later?
>>37543346
But you won't upload a picture of yourself to back up this claim.
So tell me, what do you get from e-stating on an anonymous messaging board?
Is gear really cheaper than protein? I always though roids would be crazy expensive
>>37543282
>>37543292
Not really. There are testosterone gels, but they're pretty shitty.
If you want to roid you have to pin.
>>37543297
I'm talking pro natty, pro not being person with low self esteem.
why the fuck would i lie?
i simply don't want to post pictures of myself on the internet.
but since you sound impressed by what i lift im guessing your either not roiding, or you havent had any effect of it yet
The on
>>37543362
It's not that bad imo.
I do get pimples desu but honestly the whole illegal part of it does nothing for me. The government is run by a bunch of stupid fucks who don't know shit about hormones.
Doesn't even have to be your ass. But it's up to you man, if you feel grossed out then just keep training hard.
>>37543368
That's s good question. Probably not. I used to be very insecure about my body and size.
Anyone who juices probably has some insecurity desu.
>>37543392
Nah gear is pricey. Just test alone is cheap
>>37543410
Oh. I just assumed test was gear. Haven't read up on this stuff all that much yet.
>>37543392
1 vial of test e runs for anywhere from 25 bucks to 35 bucks depending on your source. That'll last you 5 weeks at 500 mg a week with a 10 ml vial (2 ml per week)
>>37543406
Are you done trying to convince us yet squirt?
>>37543409
Thanks for giving us all this info. You look great, man.
>>37543392
It depends on what you run. IF you have a good source, a beginners cycle is less then $200 for three+ months.
>>37543431
No problem man.
My life is meaningless without the ability to help others.
>>37543423
Huh. So do you have to eat like an absolute monster to keep the gains coming?
>>37543409
>the government is run by a bunch of stupid fucks
Not gunna argue with you there.
>>37541836
I have seen the natty results for 2-5 years and the limit or close to it for many people and it's more than enough for my taste, going by looks. To be completely honest, if it was legal and more widely accepted, I'd probably do it, but I already have somewhat of a criminal history, got caught, paid a heavy fine and on probation for 2 years now. I don't wanna end up in jail for gains.
>>37543426
>us
implying you aren't the only one afraid to upload a picture of your "enhanced" body.
because you are afarid of being saying
"roiding for this"
>>37543466
When has anyone ever got arrested for taking steroids? Selling? Yes. But taking? Bruh. You'd have to be an idiot to get caught. I'm talking you buy tons of steroids from your guy, put it in your car, speed home, get pulled over, cop goes through your things and finds your needles / pills. And even then, does tag really warrant a sentence? Maybe in United States of Freedom. But here in Canada land it's jut a fine
>>37541917
That is what they are though.
Someone link that study which showed a guy on gear who wasn't even lifting getting more gains than a natural lifter over the course of several months.
If anything people who don't do gear UNDERESTIMATE just have effective they are. Then when they see it for themselves they struggle to even bother with natural lifting again.
>>37543461
It depends. If you want to add mass, yes.
If you want to just lean out and keep your gains (if not add some more) you can eat at a deficit.
My friend did a cycle of 500 mg test e a week on a cut for his first time.
He gained about 5 or 10 lbs gained almost an inch on his arms and lost a ton of body fat. (Probably around 2-3% BF)
He even posted a pic before and after and you could see that he lost a ton of fat but didn't gain too much size.
My first 6 week cycle was sustanon and adrol. I went from 190 to 220. Got off with no pct and went back down to 205.
>>37543475
You're trying to flip this around because you got put on the spot. You got asked for your physique, and instead of posting it you're running away like a true insecure skeleton would, and as a defence tactic you're repeating what I'm saying because we all know you're tiny and only have a voice anonymously online :)
Alright OP, even though that whole 16 year old argument was retarded, you convinced me. How do I start?
>>37543519
What is your routine?
How long did you lift before you started?
>>37543541
frequent /fraud/ and go to reddit and type in SST
>>37543530
then be the "bigger" man you supossedly are and post first
>>37541836
Why do you care if other people are on gear ?
>>37543568
He's insecure
>>37543566
I don't need confirmation that I'm a bigger man than you. Judging by your bitchy femine attitude, you're a low test high estrogen keyboard warrior that pretends he's someone he's not on 4chan.
So stay angry, because I'm enjoying your salt. And I can't wait till you reply with no picture so I can say "I told you so"
>>37543494
Switzerland, bro. We have occasional car and passenger inspections around here without any notice and the way I know my luck, I'd probably get into one of those while transporting it home. A buddy of mine lost his license and had to pay a pretty heavy fine because he had around 50g of weed in his car during an inspection. If he was on probation like me he would've ended up in jail.
>>37543557
I lifted for about 2 years before I started.
Routines varied.
I've done literally every variation you can think of.
The routine doesn't rly matter so much. It's more so that you're working out with appropriate intensity and progressively overloading your body.
My favorite routines are:
PPL and 4-5 day splits.
Quads/calves:
Squats 1x12 1x10 2x6
Leg extensions: 4x12
Hack squats: 4x10
Goblet squats: 4xf
Leg press: 4x10
Seated calf raises: 4x50
Standing calf raises: 4x25
Chest/tris:
Bench press 1x20 1x15 1x12 2x6-8
Cable fly: 4x12
Incline DB chest press: 4x10-12
Weighted Dips: 4x10
Incline DB fly: 4x12
Push ups: 4xf
Cable tricep extensions: 4x12
DB skull crushers: 5x10
Back/bis:
BB rows 2x12 2x8 1x6
Pull ups: 4xf
Cable pull overs: 4x12-15
Reverse flys: 4x12
Reverse grip bent over rows: 4x12
Cable close grip pull downs: 4x12
Cable rows 4x12
Machine pull downs: 4x12
Face pulls: 4x15
EZ bar curls: 4x8
Single arm preacher curls: 2x12 2x8
Concentration curls: 3x10
Hamstrings/calves:
Deadlifts: 1x10 1x8 3x5
Seated single leg hamstring curls: 4x12
Laying leg curls: 4x12
Stiff legged deadlifts: 4x8
Lunges: 4x12
Back extensions: 4x12
Seated Calf raises: 4x15
Standing calf
Shoulders/abs:
OHP: 1x12 1x10 3x6
Cable lateral raises: 4x12
Reverse flys: 4x12
DB seated OHP: 4x12
DB lateral raises: 4x12
DB reverse flys: 4x12
Shrugs: 4x10
Leg raises to pull up bar 4xf
Ab wheel: 4xf
This is one I made a lot of gains from.
Anyone who's experienced doesn't rly follow a set routine. With enough experience you'll learn to make your own program to fit your needs based on your body.
What works for you might not work for me.
>>37543560
Sounds good m8
Any basic dosing stuff I should know? I know you should start with test to know how you respond to gear
Anything else you can give me? I don't know much
>>37543606
ofc you are bigger, you roid like a little faggot, i dont ned mirin from a keyboard warrior either
Should I still roid if I want to be a personal trainer? Not like for athletes. I want to help mostly sedentary people.
>>37543612
>Anyone who's experienced doesn't rly follow a set routine. With enough experience you'll learn to make your own program to fit your needs based on your body.
>What works for you might not work for me.
congrats Brohatma youre officially my favourite trip. finally someone who knows his shit and has a level head
>>37543631
I told you so
>>37543632
Fat out of shape people will find anyone who's slim fit. So be a personal trainer and take advantage of these types.
>>37543632
yes
>>37543628
ask /fraud/
they know way more than I do
>select all images with juice
>>37543612
Thanks man appreciate it
>>37543638
never said you werent, but i dont cheat either, i simply stated i could bech 315 for 1 rep, and that i weighed 205 lbs, if you seriously dont think that is possible natty, something is very wrong with you
>>37543696
>he's still replying
>>37541836
Yeah whatever idc what this thread is about, I just wanted to say I got back up to 3pl8 DL after dropping 20lbs
Natty 5'10 150lbs
>>37543706
so are you
>>37543696
Pics?
>>37543714
>and again
>>37543717
He's a anorexic Manlet that projects his fantasies anonymously online.
Just expect an excuse along the lines of "I don't feel like doing it"
"I don't have a camera"
Or
"I have nothing to prove"
Yougottabeafreak
>>37543696
>205lbs
>natty
You either need to be at least 6ft and lifting for a decade or you're a fatty.
Get some cuts and reduce that weight. No one outside the gym cares about your bench.
>>37543749
or, simply dont want pictures of myself on internet
>>37543785
>I don't want my pictures on the net !!!!
>what is not showing your face
Idiot.
>>37543749
If he benches that much he must look descent
>>37543785
>I don't want my pics on this net
So you just unintentionally confirmed you're a insecure self concious /NoSocialMediaNEET/? I've uploaded in cbt and showed my face. Idgaf. Pussy.
>>37543777
6 feet 2
not fat no, but not thin enough to have complete six pack aswell, havent really had any BF% checks for a long time, guesssing around 15% or something,
and yes i have been lifting for several years, not very seriously until a year ago though
Lol. Trying to convince me to do gear. I'm 31 and making faster, better gains than any of the roiding trainers in my gym. Try putting a little effort into your routines instead of putting a little needle into your ass. Oh and show me these 16 year old who are stronger than me. Please.
>>37543785
Shitty excuse. Just crop your head out.
Someone who's 6'2 205lbs and benches 315lbs natty would proudly and openly share his pictures with confidence.
You're pathetic for trying to lie to us. It's people like you that make /fit/ a shit hole.
>>37543823
Then get a skin caliper and go on a cut until you're low 10s with visible abs. Like I said, no one gives a fuck about your PR if you look shit.
>>37541836
Damage Control: The Thread
>>37543856
I believe everything but the obvious e-stating.
You sound pudgy and soft.
>>37543890 this was meant for >>37543823
>>37543860
>>37543856
>>37543815
>>37543798
>>37543797
fine i give up i will post a pic
planning on cutting next year, want a little more mass first.
>inb4 you dont bench 315!!!
>inb4 you a shit a taking pictures
>>37543920
Looking solid. After a cut, you'll look shredded. No need to take steroids if you're happy with that size.
>>37541836
Jokes on you, I don't take steroids because I'm on HRT. Faggot. Enjoy your girls.
>>37543920
youre gonna look sick cut, you should have posted this ages ago.
>>37543920
>staying natty for this
Also. How do we know you didn't save this from a cbt and reuse it?
Anyways. I'll post my pic now to one up you and show you what real man looks like. 6'6 285lbs.
>>37543920
>all those fags BTFO
>>37541836
I don't need to be a huge to be attractive to women. a normal guy that works out natty, eats healthy, is fun and friendly and pursues his goals in life is naturally irresistible to women. there is no need to rely on any crutches, true mastery is having everything you need within yourself. hopefully you'll realize that some day op
>>37543971
Damn. You look like 3 of him out together.. Jesus
>>37543971
>needing a reason to stay natty
>real man
>literally taking male hormones
pick one
>>37543971
What's wrong with your skin?
>>37543971
white trash tattoo
>>37543971
>chest literally covered in acne
>face also most likely is
NO SIDES LMAO
>>37544001
Hey, if you want to look small and average like you do, and stay mediocre at bodybuilding and weightlifting. That's great. No one will remember you, no one talks about you, and no one mires you. I'd rather be a master at my craft than an under achieving gym rat like you that quite frankly is just wasting his time.
The only reason I don't roid is because I don't know where to get gear reliably. I only know one person who might actually sell the stuff and apparently their costs are a ridiculous mark up compared to what people in the cheating frauds thread are paying.
>>37543971
Can someone tell me wtf is wrong with his skin? On his stomach? All over his chest and shoulders? This looks disgusting.
>>37544035
>implying i want to be remembered for my physique,
there a way more important stuff in my life.
you argument the same way cheaters at any sport event do
>>37543971
>posting a random from instagram's pic
https://www.instagram.com/p/BFxm3xCDug2/?taken-by=bmcgladrey
>>37543071
>People would never pin me for being on steroids
These are exclusively people who have never picked up a weight, right?
>>37544065
Wow. You found my Instagram. That was quick.
>>37544065
>>37543971
HAHAHA omg you couldnt even post a picture of yourself!?!?! what a fag. good luck skelly
>>37544035
Uhh, faggot, do you actually expect anyone to remember you as anything but the dude who roided? There are thousands of bigger, more cut and heavier lifting roiders than you but if you enjoy a sense of superiority for being bigger due to your steroid use, feel free to not share it with anyone, since it makes you sound hella insecure.
>>37544079
You look successful and happy man. Good job on the physique btw. Steroids or not. Not many people could get to your size.
>>37541836
Okay, but I can still take your Goliath ass and any 16 year olds down one on one with my martial arts.
>2016
>still thinking your lifts determines your worth
>>37544106
/thread
>>37541836
im natty because i have no fucking idea where to get that shit from.
>>37544079
You look like a monster but your skin is so bad. Is it really worth it? I mean clearly there are side effects to roids. And it doesn't look like they're just minor..
>>37544065
>>37544079
Never mind that, you actually drive a black mustang and jeep with sicc 22inch wheels. How wanna be hood can one white boy get?
>>37544111
>>37544131
Thanks. And the benefits out weigh the negatives. Trust me. Living with high test, a 450lb bench and 710lb deadlift unreal. I'm probably one of the best benchers in my province and I'm only 23 and basically just getting started.
>>37544086
Just when I think you couldn't come across as any dumber. Oh well. Low testosterone is known to have an impact on your critical thinking skills.
>>37544164
Damn iPhone and my gaint hands. Basically, I Meant to say it's unreal being in the top 0.1% of lifters, and knowing everywhere you go you will be the biggest guy by far. Trust me. Leaving humanity behind will play positively into all aspects of life. Career, sex, social life. You will turn into a different person for the better.
>>37544131
>>37544164
>>37544164
>>37544131
ITS NOT HIM,THIS PIC IS OVER AN YEAR OLD.
Fkin newfags.
The guy is also like 5'7
>>37544228
Actually, I posted it a few weeks back. Maybe you should have checked my account before trying to derail my thread?
1/10. Because at least you tried
>>37543971
wanting to prove you arent bullshitting, and posting a picture that already exist online?
smells really fishy, take a pic now if you want to prove it
>>37544119
Even if you train in martial arts. To be good enough to fight someone far bigger than you requires tons of experience and training. You're probably a blue belt in BJJ or something and think your nuts.
>>37543122
wtf? how much of a lanklet are you to look that small at 195?
When is it acceptable to hop on the juicecruise?
>tfw 4 plate diddy, 3,5 plate squat, 1,5 plate bench and 1 plate ohp.
Are these stats worth a ticket?
I want to become the trex.
>>37544346
yes, start with test
big lifts incoming
>>37541836
well senpai, Im not even lifting consistently yet and Im really happy with the gains Im making, I doubt Ill ever hop on the bicycle but before I even consider it im gonna push my natty limit
>>37544372
Thanks senpai
First I need to find a source online or in Riga.
>>37541836
Because you didn't find the pill to not be insecure you invented it?
You gave me the best definition of being pathetic, gratz
girls think that everyone on roids looks like shit
ottermode is achievable without roids and i literally look to be good looking
dont know why else you would
>>37544438
>listening to girls about what they like
They say that because they don't want to like someone roided up but they can't help but be sexually attracted to them.
>>37544330
Pretty lanky. 6'3.
I didn't even start looking filled out til 240
natural cos I don't have a borderline personality disorder that requires me to validate my life around how big my muscles are.
how little do you nigas have goin in your life.
then again I'm 6 foot broadshouldered and naturally masculine looking my whole life so I guess I never experienced being 'small' and the emotional pain that comes with that.
>>37541852
i've done 3 small cycles, its great, but dont want to blast and cruise forever...
>>37542672
>>37542704
stats, lifts and program? lookin good
Why would anyone do roids except for competing in bodybuilding/modeling, sports, or taking testosterone replace therapy for when you become old?
>>37544164
You look like a surrey jack, and you're probably trash.
>>37544863
Because they can make you perform at near superhuman levels with the right training
>>37543920
Where's your back, bro? I mean, you look like you literally have never worked your lats. I'm sorry, your physique is nice and all, but you're gonna need to get on those rows. Hope you get on that while you're doing that cut or you won't be too happy with your appearance. Now, I could be wrong, but from the poses you used in the picture and the angles, that's what I see.
>>37542257
This desu
All those fucking newbies that take this shit far too seriously like they're gonna be achieving ANYTHING with all their "dedication and HARD work"
I just like lifting among other things. Doesn't mean my life has to revolve around it.
>>37544863
I'd think about it the other way around. If people naturally think of you as being a better person and treat you better when you're ultra-/fit/ and you don't compete in a sport where taking steroids is banned, why would you NOT take steroids?
>>37543122
I cant tell if people are lying about their height or they just have no mass in their legs, but im 6'2 215 lbs with minimally more fat and a little less muscle in the chest. Maybe i just think im forever dyel, but i dont get how people have those stats unless theyre just lying about their height
>>37542274
So what you're saying is you're fat?
>>37541836
how does it feel that a natty with a 90kg bench looks 1000x better than you will in your entire lifetime?
>>37546367
fucking junkies with their pimple covered nasty ass toad bodies talking shit
>>37546367
he took steroids...
>>37546395
>22 ffmi
stay mad
>>37546367
There's no way this guy benches only 90kg unless he's literally 5 feet tall
>>37546384
You're tiny. Like s boy
Not really. I'm natural because I want to see how far I can push my body, both strength and aesthetics.
Steroids is for betas who are insecure with their masculinity
>>37546403
Junkie
Also you took roids and you still look average
>>37546367
>>37546384
>staying natty for this
>>37546450
look better than literally any trip ever on /fit/.
>>37546464
>roiding for this
not even memeing, this is what happens when you roid with avarage/slightly above avarage genetics. this is what ~1g will get you.
>>37546468
A skeleton bragging about having abs and low bf is like a obese girl bragging about how big her tits are
>>37546482
Lol 0/10bait
Apply yourself.
>>37546486
funny coming from a guy with no muscle or abs.
>>37546491
1g in clothes. he literally looks like he doesnt lift
>>37546493
Funny , considering that is is me >>37543971
And I'm about 3 or 4 times larger than you? My biceps are literally stronger than your legs and that isn't even a joke.
>>37546499
Two average looking dudes. That's about it
>>37546504
>mast posting as anon again
make sure to tell me when the 4 other abs join the party hun
>>37546504
nevermind, you're not mast, just some other disgusting, pimple riddled bitch
>>37546511
yes, that's my point
Is jordyfed natty? He doesn't have that gross skin look and doesnt look unproportionate like roiders do with traps and shit.
>>37546519
Currently bulking to 300lbs, then shredding to 245 for next spring. But you need to eat a fucking sandwich. Don't worry little guy,we can def tell you're a natty that's never taken anything. You don't have to tell us
Pic related
>>37546530
>wristlets
>small chest
>weak shoulders
>no back
Apply yourself squirt.
>>37546468
But....you have no lats?
>>37546543
lmfao, you're a dad in his 20s, doing massive amounts of drugs, wasting a major part of his day shitposting on 4chan and literally going g4p on your instagram for 700 followers. not to mention the 10/10 white trash tattoo. you're a fucking mess dude.
>>37543612
What if you want to focus on powerlifting though?
Higher frequency (2-3x a week) on the compunds and lots of accessories thrown in?
I always only see bodybuilding focused routines for enhanced lifters and am not really into that desu m8.
>>37546409
he is 5'4
>>37546553
>no shoulder
bigger than yours will ever be, natty or not
>no back
lol >>37546583
>>37546558
>no lats
pic related
>>37546553
oh forgot delts
>>37543849
Sure, search jake navarra.
Deadlifted 300+kg @16yo and sub 93kg bw.
Claims natty but not possible imo.
>>37546468
You look good but to be honest there are a few trips that look a lot better, better proportions, size and leanness.
>>37546540
I'd assume so. He doesn't look over the top. Them poly genetics I guess.
>>37546443
Tons of projection going on here.
How long have you been lifting m8?
Bet you look like shit and will always look like shit.
>it's a homocontest thread
I thought the meme about roiders being insecure was just a meme
>>37546597
*golf clap*
Alright that seems reasonable.
The only thing that seems off in the picture is the height of the door know in comparison to you.
>>37546677
schhhhhh
>>37541836
I'm only 20 and there is a large body of evidence that steroids will close the growth plates of my bones
I still have hope of not being a manlet :(
>>37546708
That hope will die, give it time
>>37546727
>>37546583
Tell me. What's the difference between someone in their 20s drinking at the bar, smoking weed, and taking supplements from the supplement store, vs someone who knows how to manage and use steroids safety? Oh yeah, I'm not fucking up my liver, lungs and kidneys and I have goals to work towards. Steroids, when used correctly, are the least harmless drug. And that INCLUDES coffee and pot. I'm also more put together and assembled than you will ever be. I'm 23. A home owner. Have a beautiful girl. A daughter. And I make 90k a year.
You WISH you had my life. But enjoy priding yourself in being a natural because you're too much of a pussy to take lifting seriously.
FYI. Your back is pinned
>>37546597
Are you ironically posting? How can someone so small be so cocky?
>>37546584
You can do something like upper/lower and just periodize your compounds and accessorize based on your weak points on said compounds.
I use pic related to find my working set weights on my main lifts. Then I just go for the pump on my accessory lifts.
I'll wave load and I'll max every like 3 months.
Week 1: 75%
Week 2: 80%
Week 3: 85%
Week 4: 65%
You can use the chart to set the optimal set/rep scheme for those percentages.
This is merely an example though. Real programming is more complex.
>>37546785
>Has children
>Rants at anons on a Chinese cartoon board
>>37546604
>wristlets
>weak shoulders
>no chest
>puny back
>under 6'
Christ this is embarrassing.
>>37543495
trappy is that you
>>37541836
FAG
>>37546604
as much as I hate my lanklet genetics 5'4 isnt worth any physique. dude looks great but :/
>meet some girl on tinder looking for a threesome
>post shirtless pic to her (less than two years lifting natty)
>abs, the v, pecs, solid
>she's Merlin and asks more questions
>mfw it doesn't go through because she wants me to fuck her AND her boyfriend
Too bad I'm not bi....
>>37544795
Wow this thread still up haha. My stats right now is 475 DL haven't attempted a 1rm on Deadlift in 4 months. Bench 315, but I prefer to say I bench 225 for 15 squat 405. I don't have a program, but I do 10-25 reps on most things because I train oldschool and follow many old school 70-80s BB style. Thanks btw!
I don't drink coffee or take any drugs so u are wrong
>>37542497
Isn't it a bad idea to get on test when you are young (under 25)? I have read repeatedly that it will fuck with your test levels for the rest of your life.
>>37543731
>he spent 3 hours and 20 minutes not posting his picture
>>37547945
>implying you don't imagine what it's like to suck a penis
>>37542563
Damn looking good
This is what you'll look liek as a natty after FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE FIVE years of training.
This is what you wasted so much of your life for.
I hope it's worth it you stupid fucks.
>>37546597
a high schooler is bigger than you in every way lmfao
Can someone spoon feed me some links to info about the effects of taking test and how to avoid them? Here's hoping there isn't something like my boys not firing anymore and needing to pin test for the rest of my fuckin life. I just want to reach the natty limit a little faster with a cycle
>>37543971
You look fucking disgusting mate.
That fucked skin, disgusting popped vains even without that low bf, those ugly roid shoulders.
This is exactly why I dont want to roid.
Someone who trains natty for 3 years looks 100 times as good as someone who roids. And he isn't relying on steroids, has better discipline (doesn't need instant gratification like roiders, which is a severe personality flaw), isn't fucking up his hormones, has a life and doesn't have severe insecurity issues.
>>37541836
ITT Roiders defending their body dysmorphia.
>>37546553
Delusional
>>37543937
>>37543962
>>37543977
Thanks man.
>>37546025
Now that you mention it, i can see that the lats are lacking in this picture. Its the angle though, or me pulling back together or something. (Not really used to taking pictures) my lats are following the rest of the body fine though
>>37543612
Did you get beard gains from just a test cycle? or any jaw gains?
>>37541836
I don't mind drug users but those who try to justify their drug use need to be kicked in the teeth desu
You're only fooling yourself
>>37542672
>>37542704
>Looking like this after a year
I dont have the genetics, ive lifted longer and I look like shit. My test levels are weak as fuck. Convince me not to roid except just being myself. Im dead fucking serious, this is angering.
>>37550829
just try some test and see how you like it before fully diving in
