Can you post the pinnacle of a 100% natty body?
I wanna see how far I can actually go if I keep lifting all my life without unrealistic expectations.
Scott Herman is a good example, if you lift for like 8 years
natty Mike Matthews
Kinobody
>>37495544
Wtf Is that narcissa aka cosmo
>>37495544
not with that thread image I can't.
>>37495604
lol
>>37495544
Literally kinobody.
Not even joking.
Have to have great genetics and high natty test.
>>37495544
bump
>>37495604
>>37497330
FUCK OFF GREG
tfw comfy windwaker streams will NEVER be a thing again
it depends, everyone has different genetics retard
>>37495544
Scott Herman. Srs.
>>37495544
>>37495544
Nacho duato
>>37495544
Who is this semen demon (male)
>>37499600
Female
how pathetic is this fucking guy that he thought he was good at video games cause he played an old game thousand of times and when they switched games on him failed and decided to turn into a woman.
>>37501055
Why did you post a pic of a boy with the comment "Female?" That was really random, dude. Nice dubs btw.
>>37498985
i really want this to be true
but didn't he eat bull testicles & similar? the precursor extracts of animal testosterone before we actually learned what the molecule was?
That's only hearsay though, would like to believe this is achievable natty
>>37495544
Right here.
AlphaDestiny, although the pic doesn't do him justice as his back is HUUUGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L9LMwhE0YE
>>37501600
Obligatory.
Probably this, with half cast black genetics in play.
>>37502905
He's not even black you retard
>>37495544
how to achieve natty king of /fit/ mode??
>>37502905
As a roider, youre naive as fuck.
>>37503033
Lol ok.. Anyone can achieve this with hard work and diet and 4-5 years.
Here's an actual /fit/izen with below average genetics who is clearly natty.
Note the softness of the body.
>>37503064
>below average genetics
Exactly.
>>37503079
Did people have much cleaner diets back then?
You'd have to imagine so
>>37501518
Iono. Maybe make friends with a farmer/butcher, and you can get a hookup on cattle testicles.
>>37501518
>but didn't he eat bull testicles & similar? the precursor extracts of animal testosterone before we actually learned what the molecule was?
Bro science before bro science was even a thing. Seriously, people thought that for a while but it's been debunked.
>>37495544
rip in peace great speedrunning
>tfw you will never dog face (no space) again
>tfw you will never legalize gay weed
>>37495544
get this degenerate
off my board
>>37502530
>>37503109
oh yeah
only very recently has it been so easy to grab several hundred calories + shitloads of fats at a burger joint, servings were way smaller
>>37503063
Do why haven't you? Oh that's right, you're another two year lifter who's delusional enough to think they can achieve a roider body natty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCKkHqlx9dE
Here's the problem though. Everybody's got different genetics. A lot of the examples of the " guaranteed (because picture taken before testosterone was isolated) natty peak" may not have taken steroids, but are still very much a completely unrealistic expectation because they're literal one in a million genetic freaks.
>>37503472
Sort of this. The first supply of supplemental testosterone was isolated from cattle testicles (chemical synthesis didn't follow for nearly ten years). And a scientist had, in fact, isolated testosterone in pig testicles and experimented with it during Eugene Sandow's life time. But it was pretty much ridiculed and the research shelved for decades.
Meanwhile, that testosterone is extremely poorly bioavailable orally, so even if you get all your protein every single day from raw prairie oysters, it won't do shit.
Sandow was just both lucky and dedicated.
>>37503063
>So long as I work hard it'll all pay off in the end right? r-right? g-guys? i'm not wasting my time with this natty lifting right? tell me guys? haha cmon guys, cant be that bad can it?
lelelelele
>>37501518
Eating testicle will not raise your test levels, the acid in your belly just kills the hormones
>>37502978
No fucking way that guy is natty.
Look at the Tren jaw.
Jeff is pinnacle of natty imo.
here comes the shit storm
>>37503836
agreed, theres just so many variables for everyone.
EVERYONE'S GOT A DIFFERENT LIMIT. WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND. THIS THREAD MAKES ZERO SENSE.
EVERY.DAMN.DAY.FUCK.
>>37505222
lets assume avg height and genetics, calm your farm senpai
>>37503079
But who was chest?
> implying they weren't roided out the gills back then too with "natural" snake oils
>>37502905
Tren delts and clen/t3 obliques yep natty
>>37501699
>5ft4
>>37495544
kinobody with bigger legs
>>37503079
Who is number two? The ripped Joseph Goebbels?
Somebody post Tiny. He was natty
>>37504780
Yeah you have to stick em up your arse to actually get the test out of them
>Not posting our lord and saviour Scooby
Serious answer, it would probably be Mike level
He hasn't changed much since this picture was taken (1-2 years), but he's natural and he's been lifting for almost a decade now, you can see his progress throughout his videos (Dom Mazzeti, first vid --> Brosciecelife, Forgotten Muscles vid)
He's got pretty good genes/frame fampai, so it's your own take on that, but this is pretty much it
I'd say I'd be happy with this until I reach 28 or so, then I'd probably turn to gear desu
>>37503599
>>37495610
>>37503605
/srg/ what are you doing here you are supposed to be dead
>>37505622
Also, for reference, he's 6'2''
>>37495594
No hope for calves ;_;
>>37501518
Test was officially isolated the same year Sandow made his debut. Before him, strongmen were all fat. Make of that what you will.
>>37501600
If that is how he already looks irl I wonder how he'd look on a tshirt drawn at a carnival?
>>37505544
Let's be honest here:
1. He's on TRT
2. His body isn't even really aesthetic
>>37505708
no he isnt
>>37505475
Based Bercow and his milfy wife
>>37502530
My fucking sides man, hearty kek
Pic related to be honest OP
Although remember your zinc supplements or your dick will fall off
>select all the statues
![PD6202051PS312816_3128741b[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NU2NZFg.jpg "PD6202051PS312816_3128741b[1].jpg")
>>37505958
Forgot pic fucking retard
>>37505723
The thing with Sandow's bodyfat is that he is suspected of using cocaine to cut.
Look at this picture carefully, observe the fisherman's upper arms.
>>37503064
I always thought this guys body lookedcool though
>>37505916
>https://bodywhat.com/?1=97798a97&2=9d15xmj6
Only place where I could find his self-reported height is listed. He says he's 6'1"
>>37503079
Where's the fucking YATES
>>37506118
When will this meme end? You can't isolate "upper arms", the arm is one muscle and contracts as a whole. Whats next, isolating upper body from lower body?
>>37503109
>People must have had a cleaner diet back then
so many still haven't discovered the evils of capitalism
>>37505622
Came
I mean came to post this
Dom is honestly my goal body
Big but not "balooned"
Lean but not too "wiry" and vascular
Also, twice as big and lean as Bradley, who is a roiding overcompensating manlet
>>37498985
Dream body. Hopefully I have the genes.
>>37501055
"female"
>>37506319
>What are deltoids, triceps, biceps, and forearms?
>What are isolations?
Stay small.
>>37506528
Unless you have a slim waist and normal-wide shoulders, you'll never look like him.
>>37503109
They did cocaine(wasn't illegal then) to suppress hunger
>>37507557
Whats the verdict on cutting agents making you a /fraud/? I feel like suppressing your appetite/gaining energy lost from a cut is acceptable. I cut with adderall because why the fuck not?
Guys like George Hackenschmidt, Eugene Sandow, Bobby Pandour and Gustav Fristensky - the first (and undisputably best) generation of bodybuilders.
>>37506076
>suspected
He did. But it was legal. Who gives a shit? Even if it was illegal.
Of course, your insertions, frame and other genetic factors will impact your comparability to the legends, as will your diet. Their diets were mostly vegetables with a decent portion of meat and plenty of milk, some fruit and eggs and oatmeal. You could cheat and go 50s style and have protein rich jello in your diet.
None of them did workouts like today - they either went heavy like Hackenschmidt and Hermann Goerner, or did massive volume like Fristensky and Sandow. Furthermore, Bobby Pandour allegedly only did high volume gymnastics work, light dumbbells and built his legs with calisthenics and by carrying his brother up and down stairs.
Sandow was famous for working out for up to three hours a day, and others did even three sessions a day (obviously less than three hours in duration). They also valued cardio and general health and fitness.
Seeing as many were built to "go" as well as "show", they often used thick bars and unorthodox objects like kettlebells and even other men. With today's technology, we can use yolks and farmer's walk handles to replicate aspects of their training.
Their focus on mental focus was up to par with the way Hollywood depicts Oriental martial artists. They believed in the mind-muscle connection and neverending perseverance. Training outside, naked when possible, was also preferred by some - it brought them closer to nature and felt free out in the open.
>>37506749
You're fucked up. Your shit's all retardedand you talk like a fag
>>37508085
>Gakenschmidt
Gotta love Russians.
>>37508285
Adolf Gitler
>>37508159
the thongs fuckin drawn on kek
>>37495544
can you not post this fucking abomination
christ I can't fucking escape this dumbass' face
>>37505622
I think I remember someone mentioning he said he doesn't really know what he's doing when it comes to training and it isn't that serious for him. I might be wrong, but if it's true then he isn't the limit. Even at 6'2 it seems like he has a way to go still.
>>37506482
>Being this retarded
http://www.leangains.com/2010/12/maximum-muscular-potential.html
>>37509001
Keep sucking The Man's dick, sugar.
What constitutes natty?
>>37498985
i never thought sandow was that aesthetic except his arms. his arms look like those of a greek god sculpture.
if he had more chest he'd look much better. i don't think huge chests look very good or natural but sandow's was just too small to complete his physique properly.
>>37506482
you're posting from one of those evils right now.
hating on capitalism is babby tier and a good example of historical and economic ignorance and delusion.
>>37509243
B8
No one is this retarded
>>37510368
You do realise his entire physique was painstakingly sculpted to match Greek sculptures, right? They had chests like that.
>>37510389
>>37510409
Not b8 at all, communist lifter here. If you understood what communism was really about you'd understand we'd all be posting from supercomputers, not laptops and phones like me.
I'm not going to debate that shit though, i was making a point about how capitalism, industrialisation and globalisation have fucked up our diets and our health and turned us into the consumer-whores we are today, guzzling protein powder instead of drinking fresh whey from our cows like our ancestors did.
>>37495544
If I can give you some advice from someone who has been lifting for a lot of years - expectations are for assholes. Improve on yourself constantly but by having some kind of expectation in mind you are mentally determining at what point you can quit, like those ridiculous "genetic maximum" charts.
>>37501600
Looks like somebody skipped everything day
>>37503109
>Clean diets
Please stop this fucking meme. Or maybe you are really just that stupid.
This is what you look like with average aesthetics and average strength after you hit the limit
>>37512380
Another natty guy that trained his ass off
