Should you do both?
>>37429454
Neither
Do regular chinups you fat faggot
>>37429648
What if you are in-orbit fatass mode and can barely do a lat pulldown of 115 while you are 250 pounds?
i start with pullups, then when i get weaker i switch to chinups, then after that i do rows.
prob have the best back on /fit/ (cbf posting proof, you'll just have to take my word for it)
>>37429454
Yes
>extension based exercise
>adduction based exercise
yes you should do both if you want big lats, those are 2 of its main functions
dont go superwide too
>>37429653
Like all of those in one session?
I'm just starting out, so I do pullups and chins on different days, but I need to step up my game, because I'm weak as fuck.
Lat pull down is superior out of the two. It is true Pull ups are superior overall but I prefer the pull down because it's easier to control the weight with strict form, you can get in more volume, etc etc.. its just after doing deadlift's, squats, overhead press, pendlay row, etc etc.. why would you want to struggle through pull ups when you can do pull downs...
FYI my pull up count is currently 17 (bulking) but my best is 31.
>>37429669
na dont do that, im advanced, and i do a bro-split.
if you're new just stick with doing multiple bodyparts a day, ie full body. once you get strong enough then you can start splitting up the routine
>>37429651
What I do for my clients are assisted pull ups on an assisted pull up machine, bands on their feet to take weight off, or negatives by getting up to the top with a
Step stool and then lowering yourself slowly. I'll also superset those with lat pull downs so they still get the concentric portion too.
If you can't do Chinups do declines
>>37429682
Currently I'm doing a beginners practical programming routine with squats swapped out for rehabilitation for muh exploded knees.
Mon
>Low weight knee exercises with volume (eccentric leg press etc.)
>Bench
>Pullups
Wed
>OHP
>Deads
>Some crunches + other accessory shit
Fri
>knee stuff
>Bench
>pullups
Each week I switch round OHP and bench.
>>37429454
Senpai I feel like I have weak upper back but good width
What do?
>>37429759
shrugs
behind the neck press
ohp
My gym has these two setups, which is better, what's the difference exactly?
>>37429782
Cheers
I started doing OHP a few months ago
>>37429793
Hits the muscle from different angles, is my guess.
I only see dyels or old people do the right one.
>>37429793
Do the left one.
On the right one, the 'path' of your pull is fixed, whereas on the right one, it is free (the cable follows the direction from which you pull) thus it is easier apply maximal force and it's harder to fuck it up by choosing a bad position to seat.
>>37429653
Gonna try this, I usually do pullups 12-8-8-5
>>37429910
*whereas on the left one
damnit
Either super heavy pullups and volume rows
Or
Super heavy rows and volume pullups
>>37429910
Alphaomegasin got jacked
>>37429454
>people who do behind the neck pulldowns
what the fugg
>>37430007
What wrong with that autist
>>37429659
why don't go super wide
>>37430106
Goodbye rotator cuffs
>>37430134
it puts your lats in an awkward position so they can pull less weight. also you decrease the total ROM = less gains. nothing wrong with wider than shoulder grip, but dont go too far
>>37430106
Nothing, he's too retarded to realize the machine can have multiple uses.
Behind the neck is fine, and recommended.
>>37430168
thanks homes
