Fatty here, I just joined a gym for first time after lurking for a bit, problem is, I'm way too weak to squat, even with an empty bar, is there something I can do? I don't want to give up so soon
Trainer tells me to not even bother learning to squat and just do machines, I just don't know what to do.
>>37422329
Are you sure your lack of strength is the problem and not mobility? I find it hard to believe someone who is not 70+ yo can't squat the bar.
Try doing just bodyweight squats for now, or you could do goblet squats with dumbbells.
If you're actually that weak, I would just recommend machines, and try to squat your own bodyweight as low as possible for a few months then try to squat the bar again.
>>37422329
Try box squats. If it's too much, try bodyweight box squats.
I'm assuming you're also logging everything you eat or drink and keeping your nutrition in check.
As much as I fucking hate it, the Smith machine is not bad for beginners learning how to squat. Get the fuck away from it as soon as you can, but for learning the basics, it's not horrible
>>37422329
Jeez brehs
I want to coodle dem tittays
>>37422344
I can't even take the bar out of the rack without losing balance, but in truth, i have no idea about mobility
Goblet squats with a dumbbell.
>>37422352
>>37422454
>>37422374
>box squats
>Goblet squats
Why no one told me about this, trainer just put me on a machine as the first thing.
Shit i should have lurked more before joining.
>>37422427
It's a realdoll
>>37422329
theres nothing wrong with beginners useing machines bro just use them the trainers right, stick with it buddy
>>37422536
What trickery is this
>>37422449
you are so fucking dysfunctional its actually amazing
>>37422520
Your trainer is an idiot. Stay the fuck away from machines.
>>37422329
Machines are fine OP even some of us that have been doing squats for years switch over to machines every now and again just to change things up and stimulate the muscle slightly diffrent. Machines are legit bro
>>37422560
newfag
Machines are not ideal but honestly when you're a fatass diet is infinitely more important. Lifting is important but don't make it your focus especially if you're having difficulty with the basics. Ease into it, use machines if you have to, don't get hurt, but fix your fucking diet fatty fat fuck.
>>37422393
I'll try to do as you say next time, I hope box squats and goblet squats help me too, thanks
>>37422543
>>37422569
Are you sure? I was reading SS an it says machines are not good at all
I'm sorry for my ignorance, I should have lurked more, I'm sorry for wasting your time replying to this thread.
>>37422621
seriously if you cant squat the bar... Then idk if there is hope m8
Work on your mobility. There's no reason why anyone can't squat 45 lb squat.
>>37422637
fuck off retard
>>37422621
machines aren't good for the purposes of SS which involves compound exercises designed to work large muscle groups
machines can work well when the purpose is exercises designed to target specific muscles (ie isolation exercises), but that's not usually the way to go for beginners
>>37422329
lose weight and do leg press until you can squat i guess
>>37422621
The thing with machines isn't that they're harmful, it's that compound free-weight lifts are waaaaaaay better in almost all aspects in healthy people. HEALTHY being the key word there. You're not, so ease into it. If you take on more than you can handle and hurt yourself I guarantee you're just going to get fatter in the long run. Focus on losing weight as your primary goal, not lifting big.
>>37422621
Think of machines as training wheels im not saying stay on them forever but ur body has been dormant for a long time. If you jump stright in to complex comound movments with out any muscle, ur body will strugle and ur form will be poor. Use the machines and work ur way out of them. Start learning the compound exercises that the machines are assisting you to do. Don't overthink it to much the most important part is just gettting in to the gym and looking at your diet. Don't stress over doing the perfect routines or learning all the perfect form for everything trust me buddy you will need all the will power for your diet.
>>37422616
You're probably right, these 190 pounds are what's killing me, I should have tried a diet before, that and my mobility, like this other anon said
>>37422673
>>37422709
>>37422732
I thought SS was the way to go no matter how big you were, fuck I feel like I retard, trainer is probably just worried I'll hurt myself, that's why he puts me on machines.
thank you, really
>>37422732
The machines are designed for you.
They are to assist in complex compound movments that people can not or do not know how to perform correctly.
In short they are for beginners to learn the basics.
>>37422329
Losing weight (by fixing your diet) will help too. When I started, for example, I couldn't do a single chin up or full bodyweight dip. I lost 45 pounds and now I can do multiple sets of each, simply because I no longer have what basically amounted to a plate attached to me.
>>37422329
>>37422520
>>37422621
>>37422752
damn son, who is this?
>>37422752
Trainers usually put people on machines because it's a lot easier for them, less teaching you form and lower risk of you fucking your shit up. Honestly, you don't need a trainer if you do your research and practice your form to complete lifts properly. However, if it helps motivate you then stick with the trainer.
>>37422792
its a real doll (sex doll) anon
>>37422793
You are completely right, I'm going to re-read the sticky and do my own research, I was wrong thinking this would be easy.
Still, should thank everyone who tried to help me, I'm a complete retard, today was just my first day at the gym.
>>37422887
Don't be so hard on yourself man. You keep putting yourself down and it isn't healthy. The fact that you signed up and walked into a gym is a GIANT first step. You will lose the weight and get strong, just be patient and focus.
Whatever you do, never give up. I stopped lifting for 4 years and it caused a lot of regret.
>>37422792
arai yomi
i would not bother, she doesn't look good aside for a few pics
The gym can be intimidating if you never learned when you were younger. Weight training should be mandatory curriculum in school.
>>37423006
Why is her skin freakishly flawless? Makeup?
>>37422621
so first off, you should obviously be more focused on diet and burning calories in any way you can...
you can't sqaut right now, so just do leg presses instead, it actually is useful since you can go way closer to your working limit, do drop sets until you can't fucking push anymore, which will of course burn more calories than say doing 5x5 squats for 90% 1RM
you will et stronger and at the same time lighter
as soon as you can switch to squats since for being strong machines suck ass
>>37423147
Cum, or photoshop, whatever you like better
>>37422449
post body
>>37422329
>Fatty here, I just joined a gym for first time after lurking for a bit, problem is, I'm way too weak to squat,
why are you lifting you fucking idiot?
YOU'RE A FAT FUCK, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LOSE WEIGHT
GET YOUR ASS ON A TREADMILL AND DONT COME BACK UNTIL YOU'RE 20% BODY FAT AT MOST, BETTER YET 10%
fucking millenials always taking the easiest path
>>37422536
No way, you can't be serious. How can flesh and blood women even hope to compete?
Are you male or female?
>>37423372
I don't think a girl would post pics of others girls Anon.
>>37423397
is there a source that gif bro
>>37422887
who is this blowjob barista?
>>37423333
Well, they can speak and think, so that helps. Waifus/sex toys can only go so far. Personal connections with other humans are extremely satisfying.
>>37422887
Go for it OP we got ur back and we are here if u need us
>>37423218
I really like this advice, I'll try this tomorrow for sure, I truly appreciate the time you took to respond, thank you
>>37423494
>fat fuck doing leg presses instead of jogging becase /fit/ says so
not gonna make it
>>37423551
idd, thats why I hate those fat lazy retarded millenial cunts
always taking the path of least resistance
>>37422449
literally squat without the bar first then
if you cant squat open air then put hand on somthing to stabilize
once you master that do open air, then broomhandle, then empty bar, then 2.5 each side ... etc ....
>>37423551
But I do I jog for 20 or 25 minutes everyday, I actually got a lot of horrible loose skin for all the fat I lost, I thought lifting would make them less bad, that's why I joined a gym in first place.
>>37423593
I was being retarded and thought it would be easy, I had never squatted until now, but yeah, you're right, I must learn to squat first
>>37423680
sounds like you got this bro
if you're as new as you say you probably have a weak as fuck core and can't stand for shit
don't neglect the other lifts(dl,OHP,Bench) strengthen that core mate
keep at it mate, motivation to start discipline to finish
>>37423397
sauce on this one too mate
>>37422329
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZn0OJvBv7c
>>37422329
Do roman chair sit-ups. They'll help build up your hamstrings, glutes, and lower back. You don't train your quads with them so you'll have to do leg press for that
Are you educated on how to squat? I find it hard to believe no matter how fat you are you can't squat a 45 found bar
