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>studying to become physiotherapist
>like everybody else
>probably gonna end up working with old people
>would rather have a cozy office in a gym
>tfw a DYEL dude in my year is working with a physio who rehabilitates athletes who do strength training
>that DYEL dude also gives presentations about strength training
kinda jelly
>>37417736
I work as a massage therapist in a physical therapy, chiropractic & weight loss clinic.
Does that count?
>>37417736
3rd year Pharmacy
Currently Retail Intern, shit sux
Oncologist. On /fit/ for around six months. Love this place.
>>37417736
I'm not really a health & wellness guy but I repair, install, and service medical equipment.
>tfw my hospital has a union for some ungodly reason
>tfw I'm in the same pay grade as registered nurses but don't have to deal with patients at all
>>37418348
FUCK YOU BACON IS GOOD FOR ME
Speech and language therapist in a hospital.
>tfw dietetics staff are fat
>tfw physio are out of shape
>tfw I mumble
3rd year dentist and been here for at least 4 years.
What are you looking for OP?
Can anyone explain why I get stomach rumbles and my vision goes funny during workouts? When I Squat I get lights in my vision and sometimes everything goes a browner colour.
>>37418348
of course you, bunch of cancers in this bitch
4th year med student.
I thought "medicine requires a shit ton of studying" was a meme but it's real fuck
>>37418398
too much blood in your legs and not your brain.
I always felt it'd be pretty cool to work on the administrative or clerical side of a hospital. Anyone do that?
>>37418398
There is a lack of blood perfusion to your brain due to it being used in your legs. Do you do any cardio? Whats your weight and how heavy are you squatting?
Registered dietitian
>only male dietitian in my hospital and probably this side of the state
>the other dietitians are all fat women, I'm literally the only one who doesn't shovel garbage into my body
>would absolutely not trust any of them to give dietary guidance to anyone in my family
I hate the people I work with and most of my patients will disregard my counseling as soon as they're out of the hospital, no matter how close they are to an early grave due to their shitty lifestyles.
I should have been an exercise physiologist or a nurse.
>>37418398
breathe more faggot, don't listen to these CNA, advise-giving tards about blood in yourlegs, you need to breathe more and stop forgetting to fucking breathe when squatting. all your problems will go away if you BREATHE MORE
maybe someone here can help
i'm currently a NEET thinking about doing some self-study and taking my pharmacy technician certification, then doing that until i save up enough to go to community college and become a nurse or respiratory therapist
what do you think, /fit/?
>>37418467
Nah I don't do cardio -- I definitely do plan on starting soon though. Got a heart rate of 73-83.
It's not heavy weight, but I lift near my 5 rep limit.
I weigh 80kg, lifting 110kg.
>>37418398
I do breathe deep between reps, but maybe I need to go deeper.
>>37418482
Depends. The guy with the issue hasn't really given us much information.
I'm assuming if he is having this issue he is probably new to squatting or his technique is off.
If he is new, then possibly his body isn't used to the movement and isn't able to circulate blood effectively, which could be due to many, many factors, such as poor cardio, overweight or underlying issues.
If his technique is off and he isn't breathing properly, then that is a possibility too.
Ideally, I would like to a see a video of him squatting to gauge technique.
I'm a doctor and my career is fucking fantastic, desu. I'm 28, starting ortho residency next year to become a surgeon, hoping to specialize in sport surgery.
I play soccer and hope to eventually get to work on A-list european soccer players.
Inherited big family money, invested it and now have shitload of money of my own just making gains by itself, so money isn't really an issue.
My work is like my hobby. To top it off, it's a sexy and fulfilling job, I've gotten to reattach partially cut off limbs of people and all kinds of crazy shit.
Also, objectively good looking, have tons of women throw themselves onto me but none that are gf material, but at 28 don't really need to settle down anyways.
Life is good.
>>37417736
I'm trying to accumulate as much medical knowledge as possible freely, since I have a shitty artsy degree with a dead-end job.
Pls recommend me something to learn from.
Starting strength was fun to read about biomechanics, desire to know more intensifies.
>>37418516
Do you only get that issue when you rep that high weight or even on your lower weight warm-up sets?
If you're only getting that issue at those high weights, then probably your body isn't used to that weight yet, especially if you have only just started repping 110kg. Give it another month and if you're still having that issue at that weight then I'd consider doing some cardio, which you should be doing anyway.
A resting heart rate of around 80 for your average person who doesn't go to the gym isn't a concern, but if you're training and trying to get fitter, ideally it should be lower.
what's the best scrub tech job i can get after <1 of training?
my community college offers CNA, surgical tech, biomedical equipment tech, phlebotomist, EMT, and telemetry tech training
>>37418645
<1 yr*
Wellness coordinator
My job is to motivate fatties to not be fat, so that the companies insurance costs go down.
I don't really do a whole lot other than teach some bootcamps 3-4x a day. And tell fatties how to lose weight, but they won't. No one ever says "look at that fat with great self control and determination".
>>37418656
What education do you have?
>>37418645
My brother in Law, did ultrasound tech. Now he does CAT scans. Makes pretty good money for 18months of school.
>>37418577
Cool story, start with netter's anatomy atlas, once you know everything perfectly get into physiology, then you are a medfag. There is no shortcut.
Just became a medic. Been an EMT for about 2 years. Feels good to keep moving.
>>37417736
Paramedic, prepping for Med School.
It's hard to stay on the straight and narrow whilst working full time and going to school but I'm down 50 lbs from my previous fat faggot self and I've got 20 more to go.
>>37418665
is that the same thing as diagnostic sonography?
my CC offers that too but it's a 2 yr program and they only have 12 slots per semester and it's hard af to get in. there are people with 25+ on the ACT and 3.5 GPAs getting turned away cause it's a small town and the only jobs here are medical shit.
i might just get my EMT and become a paramedic and life with mediocre wages forever. at least my parents will be proud of me for being a "hero" lol
>>37418663
I am a CPA, long story how I fell into this gig.
Lets just say, my gym bro was on the BoD, of the company we worked for.
So I got a fat ass raise, big office, flexible hours and now my hobby is my profession.
>>37418684
Good luck man.
My dad went EMT --> Paramedic --> PA. Not quite med school but he breezed through the classes and knew all of the trauma, emergency, and accute care shit before they even started teaching it. He had 3 kids and worked overtime every week and still pulled all A's. You can do it man, just don't give up.
Congrats on the weight loss btw. I know how tough it is working EMS and getting nothing but fast food or frozen dinners at 2 am. You'll be a good doc with that medic experience.
Foreign Med Student. 3rd year in, 4.5 more to go.
Is health care really as good as everyone says? I don't know what I want to do with my life, but I love lifting and eating healthy, and the biology behind exercise and my weight loss experience intrigued the fuck out of me and I spend hours reading about stuff like metabolism and basic organ health online. Should I go to nursing school?
>>37418675
Thanks for the tip. I started reading some old version of Gray's Anatomy but it's pretty tough.
Right now, I'm just doing some kindergarten stuff on khanacademy and stuff like anatomy games on android but it's better than nothing I guess.
>>37418709
Thanks man. Feels good to hear.
>>37417762
Open a gym. Do it.
>>37417736
PTA specializing in spinal cord injury
been trying to get some more shadowing experience + better GRE grade so i can get into a good physical therapy program
>tfw 25 this year
>tfw i feel like i'm falling behind already of people who got in right out of college
[panic intensifies]
>>37418988
I hear you.
> 25
> 3 years until I can get into Med school
> tfw this time next year all the faggots who applied themselves early will be doctors
Keep on keepin' on.
>>37418988
>>37419031
>going to be 25 in October
>barely have one semester of college down
>always panic at the last minute and drop out of classes because I change my mind on what I want to do
>gf just finished medical coding degree + certification and is making good money
>I'm still working as a janitor in a hospital for $8/hr
Fuck fuck fuck, I wasn't in the mood to panic about life today. What the fuck am I supposed to do guys?
>>37419082
You're doing fine. Just figure out what you want to do and then focus. That's it.
>>37417736
If you're a doctor could you prescribe test for yourself?
>>37419082
You already work in a hospital dude, it'll be easy to move departments. Just go to college for some health care shit and start getting bigbux, faggot.
>>37419091
>>37419122
I kind of want to be a pharmacy tech here in the hospital but without experience I'd have to take the CPhT on my own before moving into it. How tough would it be? Is that a pretty good gig? They seem to have a pretty decent job and it pays better than most other lower level jobs in my facility.
I'm a doctor in emergency medicine. I'm usually just lurking and laughing at all the false medical claims made here but couldn't be arsed to intervene.
>>37419082
>>37419154
just do it then fraggot. The only thing stopping you is procrastination.
>>37417736
final year pharmacist. Labcoat hides all your gains
>>37419196
What's the pay like for EM?
>>37418460
My dad does, great field.
>>37419106
As far as I know doctors cand medicate themselves, right?
>>37417736
Where's the Asian? Without one that photo is literally racism
Is walking good for the heart? Or is running the only way of training it?
>>37417736
My fiancée's an RPh in retail. It's crazy how much overlap retail chains demands now in terms of the responsibilities of the pharmacists. Where she works, they're responsible for:
>immunizations
>patient consultation with any new Rx
>inventory
>scheduling
She does those tasks along with arguing with doctors about dosage and interactions, fighting with angry customers, et cetera.
Sounds like a super stressful job 2bh, but her hourly rate is insane and most of her customers absolutely love her.
>>37418645
For <1 year, Medical Assistant isn't bad since you get knowledge in both office management as well a medical procedures. You would likely come out of class with coding certification, EKG tech, and Phlebotomy Tech along with your MA cert. Also, a lot of places give an option of getting an Associates.
You can also do an LPN in a year. LPN's do a lot more of the shit work than RNs, but they can start around $20/hr. (25+ in government). The bonus is that a lot of colleges will offer LPN to RN programs in an abbreviated format, so you can get your ASN over 3 semesters which will pay out 45k+ starting. Bonus, as an LPN you are LICENSED. I mean, this might be splitting hairs, but you hold your own license, unlike other staff whose certs. run under other people's.
From the list you gave, I'd take none of those. CNA is basically an orderly that bathe and cleans patients and nurse's aides/assistants make no money. Surgical tech isn't bad, but one of those very specialized tracks which limits your available positions. Equipment and telemetry are probably more IT sided than medical. As a former EMT, fuck that shit, you are always better going nursing than EMS. Always, always, always. Also, RN's can, with fairly little effort challenge the paramedic exam in most places. In my area they can also call the shots over medics since they can get medical command status.
>>37419627
you absolutely need intensity. for obese people and elderly people it's alright to walk, but for everyone else you need to move your ass
Neuro specialist physiotherapist here.
Work predominately in an acute hospital with aquired brain injury and stroke.
I get patients walking again and I fucking love my job as it keeps me super fit.
That said went down with an inguinal hernia from catching an obese patient
>>37420044
"B-BUT MY WEIGHT DOESN'T AFFECT YOU, ANON."
>>37419893
> As a former EMT, fuck that shit, you are always better going nursing than EMS. Always, always, always.
Seconded
>>37418689
I used to be a sonographer and now I'm a paramedic.
Most schools do radiation technology programs to evolve into stuff like CT and mri techs. Diagnostic sonography usually branches to ob/gyn, cardiac, vascular, or general ultrasound like abdominal diagnostic methods. I personally did cardiac which was echocardiography and now I work as a field medic, so I gained a lot of great heart knowledge before going into the field.
>>37420044
Where are you from? Do you have a master's degree?
>>37418371
What did you do to get your job?
How do i get into your field?
>>37419154
Tough? Man, every education path is tough in its own way. Maybe it's full of bs. Maybe it's full of math. Either way it's always going to be a lot of work.
If you're scared of that, that's fine. We do need people to flip out burgers.
I'm a cancer researcher and med school reject. I'll get it next time for sure.
>>37420044
Currently in physiotherapist school. They actually tell us never to try and catch a patient, even if on stairs.
>>37420044
Never attempt to catch a pt, damn son didnt they teach you anything. Had my first fall as a cna last week and i just watched the old lady fall. Im not fucking up my back trying to add a month or two to some old fucks life and ruin mine.
>>37418734
the reasons you mention where also part of my reasons why i went into it, i studied it a few years, never a boring day, but i eventualy found out that it wasn't for me.
You should probably do something medical/healthcare related, but pleaze look further than nursing.
>>37418683
EMR now, going into EMT hopefully in august. Looking forward to it
>>37420688
Yea I remember being told nurses and CNAs are 5x more likely to injure their back on the job. Especially the nurses at the hospital I used to visit. Most were petite asians
do veterinarians count?
Just started out as EMT. The job is just transferring patients no emergencies really. Everyone is cool to work with. Usually only get 2-5 calls a day. Lots of waiting around in the rig.
Still undecided whether to get into FF/Paramedic or nursing. I'm leaning towards nursing since I can't stand down time..
So tell me doc: what's the best way of having good sleep?
and what should I do if alarms don't wake me up enough?
>>37421185
>EMR now, going into EMT hopefully in august. Looking forward to it
Good luck, but seriously, get out of EMS. It is a trap.
>Still undecided whether to get into FF/Paramedic or nursing. I'm leaning towards nursing since I can't stand down time.
Nursing. Being a Firefighter/EMT wasn't bad when I was younger, but you'll make 50% more getting a 2-year RN. Better off doing that than spending about the same time going through EMT -> (maybe AEMT) -> Medic. Also, you get better hours, have a hell of a lot better unions, and can get the magical 3 12's full time shifts. Imagine only 3 work days for full-time wages.
You'll likely experience a fuck ton more mandatory with EMS. Oh you want to go home? Sorry, you can't, your replacement didn't show and you are legally obligated to stay. Hospital staffing can be shit, but generally not that shit.
The thing is, once you hit medic, you are pretty fucked since there aren't really programs out there to transition into anything higher level. Medic to RN programs are rare as fuck.
A 2-year ASN RN, however, will naturally go into a BSN, then even a MSN Nurse Practitioner where you can make six figures and even open your own clinic in some places. Hell, a lot of nurse practitioners are doing DNPs and getting the "Dr." title. If you really don't want much responsibility, LPNs even in boonies can start at $20 hr. and only take a year at a vo-tech school.
>I'm not fucking up my back trying to add a month or two to some old fucks life and ruin mine.
This is precisely why I decided on getting my masters in counseling. Pay isn't spectacular, but you just sit and listen to people's bullshit, then diagnose them, and bill their insurance. All the while maintaining maximum comfy.
![counting+money[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v3LV7c7.jpg "counting+money[1].jpg")
5th year dentalfag, graduating in 24 days
>mfw
Also almost finished my cut after 7 years of lifting and bulking, i'm at around 85-90% of my natty potential.
This is a present i made for myself for finishing dental school
>>37421449
Thanks man for the info. Nursing is definitely a lot more stable.
>>37421492
congratz bro
>>37417762
Registered nurse here.
Work in pediatric oncology unit cause i had leukemia when i was a teenager.
Dont really have to use any of the strength i gained in the gym cause everybody weighs less than 120lb.
Saddest thing is seeing these pretty 12-15 year old girls that know that they are going to die but try to put up a facade of how they have accepted it when they havent. I almost always tear up when i gotta do post mortem care on them.
>>37418398
Its calledbthe valsalva maneuvar. Happens to old patients all the time when they take a dump. You gotta breath properly during squats or else your intrathoracic pressure will increase too much and cause it
4th year med student in Greece. Hoping to take the USMLE exams after finishing med school and seek a residency position in the US.
>>37417736
I'm starting Med school now, but worked as a Medical assistant in a pediatric office for a summer in college.
>about 10 doctors all female except for one old guy
>between 20-30 Medical assistants, phlebotomists, lab techs, front office. All female
>clinic manager feels my biceps and gives me back massages whenever she walks by me
>pretty much impossible to hide boner in scrubs
>front office girl asks for my phone number so I can tutor her in math
>start banging everyday after work
>she was Latina, about 5'3, couldn't have weighed more than 100 pounds
>would throw her around, hold her up, etc
>other HIGH TEST Colombian medical assistant with a kid shows me a picture of some Ronnie Coleman looking bodybuilder on instagram. Tells me if I looked that she would marry me
>tell her I would never marry someone with a kid and she was too big for me
>reports me to HR
>got fired like a week later
>gf at the time goes through my phone, sees the texts between me and Latina petite qt, breaks up with me.
2013 was a good summer
>>37417736
>be in grad school for physics
>tell normies that I'm a physicist
>"Oh is that right anon? I recently have this pain in my neck that I don't know where it came from, can you look at it?"
>mfw they're serious
>>37417950
>>37419337
>>37419689
Fresh PharmD here, fuck retail.
>>37417950
shit sucks so hard man, retail can kiss my fucking ass that shit is slave work
>>37421449
I'm headed into fire myself. I got connections to a bunch of houses in my city so it should be OK. I wanted to smoke jump but they told me ill be better off in city.
>>37423049
There is no rush like being in a fully involved structure.
>>37422714
Damn you must have to listen to a lot of idiots talk on your couch about their bad marriage. Sucks you have to deal with that outside of work, at least you taking all those cocks dollaradoos though
>>37423076
>they ask what else I study
>tell them also that I also do math
>"Oh really anon? Quick what's 44583920 times 949964?"
>mfw
>>37423137
Wow so you live in a trailer park? I hear if you're not careful it will blow up. Anyways I wouldn't tell to many people that, they might call the cops.
>>37423155
Believe it or not normies are actually this retarded.
So you've heard about the dumb fucking bitch who delayed the flight's take off because she though an economist's equations were Arabic? The western world is fucked
>>37417736
Personal trainer including qualifications allowing for referral from medical professionals, I'm also qualified to train special populations (kids, elderly, disabled, ante/post natal).
It is great, I charge people £30 an hour to listen to where they are going on holiday and show them a few exercises and check their form, sometimes I train with them, sometimes I just watch them run on a tread mill or rowing machine (most people can't use a rowing machine properly).
I average at least 15 hours a week of returning clients, about 5 sessions (30 minutes to an hour) a week of people just dropping in and about 2 new clients a week referred from local GPs (medical doctors).
I set up a xbone in the gym I work at's staff room and my and other staff play Fifa when it is quiet.
Sometimes my clients invite me to nights out and birthdays, which pretty much act as networking events for me, I can get at least one new client per outing.
The only down side to the job is that I tend to work the hours of 0600 - 0900, 1100 - 1300, 1700 - 2000 during peak times of the year, I could simply not show up, but I enjoy making money too much and I don't have a social life.
I work pretty much around the clock in December - February and throughout summer.
Oh and I look pretty mediocre, I've never really cut, I just don't let myself get fat, advanced lifts for my weight (190lbs) and I can run a 10k in 44 minutes 40 seconds.
Does anyone else have an injury-phobia due to their studies and job nature? Im a med student and I really like lifting, but I can't help but think that one day, no matter how good my form is, I ll snap my shit up and I 'll have to do tedious rehab, be afraid for the rest of my life or even end up with chronic pain or a cripple from osteoarthritis when I grow old enough. Do you ever get such thoughts? I usually get them at night before bed, especially if I'm chilling on /fit/ and a bunch of injury threads come up. I can tell that sometimes I become kind of paranoid but does anyone else get the same thoughts?
pharmfag (uk)
work on a university campus. since i manage the store, i decided to start selling gym related lines (mostly edibles). interestingly the number of students asking for lifestyle advise also increased. majority of it is for weight loss - blanket advise is to eat below tdee (told one guy to visit scooby's website for the calculators and meal planning), lift weights regardless of gender and do some cardio.
some fatties just want to use alli but i always get them to try above first. less then 10% bother to come back to report results, all of which is positive (i guess the other ~90% never tried or failed)
Hypnotist. Mostly pain management, weight loss and smoking cessation. Sometimes (e)sports related shit.
Being fit is part of the image game.
Im a PCA or nurses aid. Gonna be a travelling nurse. I also worked in my hospitals psych unit
Histotech. I prepare tissue for pathologists (get body parts and cut them up). Get it cut, stained, and on slides. Occasionally assist with autopsies. At a children's hospital.
Student murse checking in. I thought I'd be living the dream
[spoiler]i'm not someone please help[/spoiler]
I recently graduated with a BS in biology with the intent to go to med school, but my dumb ass fucked up my undergrad so that's out of the question now.
My family had been trying to convince me to look for some accelerated post bac RN programs, but I don't know anything about those. Does anyone have experience with something like that? Is a BS in bio a decent enough background to get your foot in the door for some decent professional programs? I don't mind going back to school. Ive been debating going into EMS just to dive into the medical field seeing as I don't have much medical experience.
>>37425130
>At a children's hospital.
Are you a robot? How long did it take to become numb to it?
I'm currently a PTA, torn on what I want to do for the rest of my life. Im split between PA school and a good DPT program. PA's make more money on average and require less schooling but having worked in PT clinics I know with confidence that I would love it. IDK senpai
>>37425590
What is your GPA? 2nd degree RN programs are fairly competitive. I'd imagine you'd want around a 3.2 or so to have a good shot.
Also, from what I know about these programs you are required to have a bunch of pre-requisites before even applying, including:
1 year A&P w/ labs
microbiology w/ lab
intro psych
intro sociology
developmental psychology
nutrition
chemistry w/ lab
statistics 4 credits
Also, gen ed shit like English and public speaking or whatnot.
>>37425653
>PA's make more money on average and require less schooling but having worked in PT clinics
>less schooling
Time wise, this is probably true. However, PA school is absolutely brutal. They have more work hours before they get certified than some people do in entire doctorate programs, outside of medicine.
>>37425665
2.94 GPA. Like I said I fucked up bad. I have all of those prereqs except for the A&P and developmental psych.
Would I be able to take standalone courses at a community college to fulfill prerequisites? I have no idea how post bacc stuff works.
>37425903
First off, check with the program you want to apply to (generally, whichever ones are offered in-state), but you need to realize that 2nd degree RN programs usually hard-deny anything below 3.0. You'd have to ask if it is even worth doing the pre-reqs, as you probably won't be able to get your GPA to a competitive level.
As to the classes themselves, you'll have to see what each college takes for the community college courses. I'd imagine they would transfer right over, but some colleges might have a hard on for taking them at a 4-year, and only give gen ed credits (useless) for cc classes.
>>37418441
2 year of med. I'm gonna be a surgeon. How are you doing, m8?
>>37425682
Obviously there are exceptions but most PA schools are 2 year programs where the 1st year is all classroom stuff and the last year being clinical rotations. Most DPT programs are 3 years with the first 2 being classes and the final year clinical rotations as well. We have a lot of DPT students that come to our clinic for their rotations and thats part of the reason I'm leaning towards PA school, the DPT programs are complete fucking overkill.
>get phototherapy for atopic dermatitis
>great results
>take a few days off it due to getting a bit burnt
>eczema starts to come back
REEEEEEEEEEEEe
Senior in college applying to med schools right now. Any current med students willing to share stats that got them in? Im shitting myself because of my 3.64 GPA and 508 MCAT (equivalent to 30 on the old one). Not bad, but not good either, so im very apprehensive.
i want to be a paramedic, can someone tell me about the job from their own personal view? i'm young (19) and i'd like to do trauma life support paramedics
One more year of grad school and I'll have a PhD in math. But now that I've been doing math for almost a decade I fucking hate it and can't wait to be done with it. Going to go into software engineering after I graduate.
>>37426430
It will ruin you physically and emotionally. Mostly you'll be saving homeless people and meth addicts from themselves, and they don't even want your help. You'll see the same fucking drug-seeking retards all the time.
>>37426392
Those are decent enough stats for the lower tier med schools and good stats for DO schools. Get your ECs up and you'll be fine.
>>37426474
even in a specialty like trauma? explain how it will ruin me emotionally and physically in more detail as well
psychologist turned nurse now preparing for med next year.
suck my dick.
>>37426492
you don't come into medics and specialize straight away.
you're working until your skilled/experienced enough and hold master degrees that enable you to pursue intensive mobile care units.
atleast this is au.
>>37426527
well of course you don't specialize straight away, but i'm asking about the outlook if i specialize, have a master's and experience, etc. what can i expect in that career?
>>37426392
same advice you give anyone thinking about pursuing medicine.
do not have this as your plan A.
do not be the person who gets a degree in biomedicine and thinks they'll waltz in and get handed a medicine position.
you MUST plan ALTERNATIVES ~~now~~.
imo all medicine should be post grad i feel bad for the thousands of kids that come in trying for medicine and graduate with a useless degree and no job prospects.
the most intelligent people i know went into nursing first -- aka a stable wellpaying fallback job -- and then pursued medicine.
realise a lot of people take 2-3 attempts before getting in.
>>37426544
relatively well paying high stress/high burnout/increased suicide rate/high rates of PTSD.
i wouldn't even think about being a specialist yet.
this is like a nursing student thinking like oh I can dodge the wards and just go straight to CRNA right?
you owe your ass first so you better just start focusing on the drug addicts/repeat callers/people calling you & wasting your fucking time cause they want a free-ride to the area near the hospital.
>>37426565
clarification: 2-3 attempts doesn't sound like much
thats 2-3 years.
How is being a physical therapist? I see it pays like 50k starting but wouldn't it be hard for a male to get hired? Ive been to two OTs and both were 100% female staff.
>>37426595
Yep. 2-3 extra years for something you'll be doing for the rest of your life is nothing, unless you're already in your 30s
>>37426629
plenty of PTs & OTs.
plenty of males in both.
hard work, low recognition, ok pay, nearing bottom of hospital hierachy -- and in hospitals shit always rolls down hill make no mistake.
do what you want.
>>37426579
i like to be on my feet, i'm great under pressure and in intense situations, and all i want is to be helping people-- what job in the med field do you recommend other than ems?
>>37426644
shit niga I know a guy in his 50s who were starting med school.
most grad med school applicants are mid-late 20s.
they will only just be DIT by the time they're early 30s.
they'll spend 3-4 years earning less than nurses and then they'll study really fucking hard to get registrar + still work 14 hours a day + get paid shit.
then maybe early 40s they'll earn real good fucking money.
my point isn't
> don't waste your time
my point is you're going to be a grown up very soon.
you're going to need a job, a home, finances, a car, etc.
if you blindly pursue medicine you'll have none of the foundations of a life.
plan.
>>37418398
>do valsalva
>decrease preload
>get syncope
>>37426662
if you really wanna be in healthcare and helping people I'd always recommend nurse.
much higher paying, much better employability, much more vertical movement & horizontal movement.
you go ED for a couple years & then you decide what you wanna do.
bridge to paramedic, come in at the highest level of medic with better pay & prospects.
then you work both jobs if you want.
gotta remember nurses/medics/fireies/cops all work rotating shifts so it's possible to hold 2 of these and make particularly good money.
Still not numb to it. Can be rough.
>>37426293
Have you experienced surgery yet? Like an actual surgery rotation? It sucks cock, and I have no idea why people pursue it anymore. I would rather get half the salary and do something that doesn't make me wanna kill myself. All the residents are fucking zombies.
Not that guy, btw. Another med fag
>>37426565
Thanks for the advice, lad. What should I do if I get rejected? I know most people will say this but my gpa and mcat really dont reflect my intelligence. Both can honestly be explained by my laziness. I only studied for my mcat for 2 months and I put very minimal effort in school. Idk, I know I fucked up but I really just want to go to med school.
>>37426392
I had like a 3.84 and a 32. Also had done two different research positions, wrote an honors thesis, was an RA, and had good volunteer work, and was active in multiple groups/clubs. I got early acceptance letter from my school and ran with it. It just depends on where you're applying. My school isn't very competitive, so my stats were pretty upper quartile.
>>37426565
Thanks for the advice lad. I know I fucked up. Both of my stats can be explained by my laziness. I only studied for the mcat for 2 months and didnt even take a class and studied no more than 3 hours a day. I also put very little work into my classes. Now its coming back to bite me. So, what should I do if I dont get in? Just try again next year once I graduate?
>>37426731
i just find being a nurse off putting for some reason. not entirely sure why. clearly i'll have to get over that
>>37426752
If you can't coast through the classes required for med school then you probably shouldn't go
The hardest course is what? Orgo II?
>inb4 orgo is hard
ayyyy
>>37417736
Working as an ER Scribe while I wait to attend med school in the fall
Just got moved to the overnight shift and the change in schedule has had an effect on my gains not to mention my sleep schedule is all fucked up now
Anyone else know this feeling? Is it better to lift before or after my shift?
Any other tips for working the overnight shift?
>>37426752
start pursuing an alternative in anything, a degree, a trade, but the thing is it must lead to an actual job.
i.e. not math
and since you have no finances it can't be something hella expensive like a JD or engineering.
its about thinking strategically & like an adult.
re: laziness.
i failed my highschool degree pretty much
i had to take a makeup college to improve my GPA to even apply.
got in did ok in my psychology degree, started working as one.
nup wanted more medicine went back did good on my nursing, working as one now.
studied 6 months for graduate admit medicine did ok got interview, did not get spot, basically told to redo the GAMSAT and try again next year.
but i got a fucking interview, a high school failing retard, and you know I'll be back next year with even more preparation.
the point is it's not a straight line, it's up down and all over the fucking place.
my mate got into medicine after trying for 3 years.
he ended up finishing with one of the highest GAMSAT scores in the country.
nobody can stop you from trying, but you gotta do the actual work.
>>37426392
Just apply to a bunch of schools you've never heard of, or maybe go DO instead of MD
If you really suck then apply to schools in Europe
>>37426793
Nursing student here. School can be tough, especially when you're juggling placements and academic work. I'm going to echo the anon you're replying to and say it's an amazing field with an incredibly diverse opportunities later down the line. That being said, the last thing you want to do is waste your time and money if it's just not for you.
See if you can shadow a nurse at your location hospital, you'll get a much better appreciation for their knowledge and skills than you would by watching TV/YT/whatever. Don't jump into a decision blindly. Good luck.
>>37426842
Is that a thing? I thought we just shipped the failures to the Caribbean to fight over the left over family med residency spots during match?
>>37426859
most EU schools are extremely competitive
he's referring to small EU countries, in which case you'll need to make sure your degree is actually transferable back to the USA once you complete it.
a lot of countries e.g. Commonwealth nations do not recognise many medical degrees from Europe and they cannot work as a Dr. even with 30 years of experience without completing another med school degree.
>>37426836
I'm a nurse and just switched to nights. I like it. I usually lift after my shift, though it's hard to get the motivation.
Blackout blankets on windows at "night" and lights on during the "day". Stay on the schedule even on your days off. Embrace inner vampire.
>>37418460
I do. Healthcare administrator at an Eye centre. Since its an outpatient clinic, I work a normal 8-5, not really different from an admin job at a normal office. Since it's a hospital, I have more benefits though slightly lower pay. A bit repetitive, dull and I find myself yawning at times but it's not so unbearable compared to other workplaces.
>>37417736
child and adolescent psychiatrist reporting in
Alright dudes, college freshman in premed reporting in
School doesnt start for a couple months still, anyone have any recommendations for majors/minor and tips to get a head start with all this free time?
>>37427217
Get some social gains you autist
>>37418398
What is vasovagal.
>>37426330
He may be referring to the fact that most PA program require pre-reqs other doctorate level programs do not. There are PA programs that accept kids with no experience, but any one that is reputable is catering towards the mid-career crisis folks who are medical providers or technicians to a high degree of proficiency that are looking to function as physicians using their prior knowledge without having to go through medical school.
When all is said and done the folks I know who have been HEMS flight nurses and CCT-Paramedics and other various specialty allied healthcare, have put way more time in school and hours of "training" and on the job experience than someone that from the start knew they wanted to do clinical medicine and went into medical school.
I am not saying one is better than the other or saying a mid-level provider is equal to a physician. I am just saying any good PA from a good PA program has put thousands of hours into their craft and I agree with the above poster that they may have in total put more time in for what its worth.
>>37426430
Firefighter-Paramedic who is also point man for our community mobile health program.
Being an "actual" Paramedic in the USA in a career fire or third service EMS system is not a walk in the park nor is it a casual weekend event. The barriers to entering EMS are low, anyone with a first aid card in some systems can have some role either paid or volunteer. Working in a well known professional system and getting to the level of proficient Paramedic requires years of schooling, education, training.
Most people don't make it that far as the shit pay (initially), bad hours, exposure (mentally and physically) and work conditions suck. I call it the "10 year" plan. If you are moving forward at a reasonable pace (not sitting still and being complacent) and have your eye on the prize no matter how shitty it gets, 10 years after walking into your EMT program you will be at the top of the game in a good system making $75,000-$150,000 while working in the field and have a career job that will allow the next 20-30 years to happen with growth and mobility.
Paramedic here, been lurking for some time. Work for a level one trauma hospital and we stay busy as hell. Still a fatass but down to 285 from 360. Done this long enough to know it's not something you want to make a career out of although it is possible. About to start the RN to NP route.
We are all gonna make it...
>>37427476
what happened in the image?
>>37427548
ur mom got fucked on her period kid
>>37427548
Can't remember, that is a trauma bay and it basically gets like that on a daily. Either bad wrecks or gun shot wounds. You name it
>>37417736
I'm afraid of going to the doctors.
>diagnosed with Marfan Syndrome
>will die if I start lifting
>4 years overdue for my echocardiogram
>lurk on /fit/ and try not to cry
>fatties and skellies can both improve their bodies
>I will never improve
>>37418390
>>37420688
>>37420615
I was facilitating hip and knee control so was on a small wheeled chair. The patient nearly squashed me against a wall.
In reality a lot of physios end up propping up patients because
A: With falls you end up having to do an incident report
B: It usually happens so quickly you instinctively react
It's especially difficult with neuro patients with dense weakness
>>37417736
Midway through dietetics.
Im gonna switch to comp sci tho, nutrition is poorly paid
>>37427316
when blood fails to reach your head.
Personal Trainer
Have medical cert so I can do cardio therapy and train people with injuries.
I spend my days laughing at athletic trainers that are either obese women or twink dudes that can't lift for shit.
>>37417762
the twink fuccbois have no actual experience and never get hired, every single one is a schlep and hasn't coached a single person beyond a 300 squat
Why do doctors give shit fitness advice
why are dietitians fat
why are athletic trainers entirely worthless
why are kinesiology majors DYEL twinks that can't lift their own BW in any lift
>>37419082
Doing something is better than doing nothing. Job shadow a couple people, pick one and stick with it.
>>37427135
psychiatry resident here. I've seen patients do the most fucked up things but thanks to 4chan im used to worst. 7 months into greyskull lp, bench 82kg x 5, ohp 57x5, sqwaat 115x5 dl 120x5 weigthed chin 25x5 Sometimes it comes in handy to be athletic, like when we have to restrain and immobilize aggresive or agitated patients.
>>37427217
Major in something besides bio/biochem/chem, while still taking your prereqs. Also don't tell anyone your premed it sounds dumb.
>>37427217
Establish good relationships with your professors and begin looking for volunteering, lab, and working experiences NOW. Start shadowing people NOW. And don't shy away from extracurricular activities at your college.
Your major/minors don't matter as long as you do well in it (3.5+ on average) and fulfill all the prerequisites for the med school you want to attend. Biology/exercise science/dietetics usually have most of the prerequesites built into the major, so you get priority seating in classes and don't have worry about juggling med school reqs with your major curriculum. That said, a vast majority of pre meds take that route and so you'll have to do a lot more to make your application stand out.
>>37425402
Elaborate please? Considering nursing.
>nursing student
>graduate in a year
>already have a sweet job lined up at a Magnet hospital
Aww yea
>>37418492
Pharmacy technicians make shit money.
>>37431364
shit lad those are my stats except a bit higher
do you have short arms by any chance?
>>37418645
Phlebotomist.
The other jobs are too much hard work for the shitty pay they give.
>>37418734
Yes.
>>37420688
I was leading my 75 year old retarded cousin to the bathroom last night when he ate pavement on a concrete restaurant floor. Before nursing school I would have tried to catch him. Last night I watched that fucker go down like a bag of bricks then patched him up. Luckily he already has 2 artificial hips so those aren't breaking any time soon.
>>37420707
Spoken like someone who has no idea what the scope of the nursing field actually is.
>>37431558
No im pretty much average. 179cm for 75 kg. Normal arms. Shitty deadlift bcause i cant do the movement right and i work more on form right now.
>>37420135
Thirded
I been an EMT a month now and it just patient transfers for a private company. Waiting in the rig for calls sucks. Everyone I work with is cool but everyone says the same they don't want to make a career out of it.
Even in orientation there were some fire fighters and they recommended nursing over FF/Paramedic if you are not absolutely dead set on going the fire route.
It depends where you go but you mostly likely will be dealing with the same patients and drunks all the time. Plus getting in to a department is not so easy with so many people trying to apply for a handful of positions.
Nurses are always in demand.
>>37425402
I feel you senpai. Not surprised they take like 800 students onto the course considering the dropout rate I've seen over the years.
>only reason I'm still here is I'm not financially stable enough to drop out and lose my bursary
