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Running General.

When in the week do you guys do your long run? I've been sticking to the usual Sunday morning for the past few months.

Also, Ottawa marathon live at:
http://marathon.isilive.ca/

Should be ending soon
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>>37352337
I run at least 4 times a week (Monday-Thursday). I run 2 miles a day except on wed I do a 4 mile (cause the pool I go to is closed). I'd say that running at least once a week is good though, but two times is better. Try to get up to a 10 miles a week thing, with splitting up miles per day
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>>37352337
SHOO SHOO GAINS GOBLIN
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>>37352337
I do my long run whenever I feel mentally prepared to not just quit halfway through. Otherwise I plow through 10k's every other day.

>mfw still only 4:45/km PR for a 10K, after roughly 2000kms of running
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>>37352337
Sup guys, anyone here have a pulled LCM (ligemantum collaterale mediale) and can tell me how long it took to heal out?

I pulled mine 5th of May and feel like offing myself whenever I try to run, the pain is too much to bear after 100 meters.

Lewd taytay always related.
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>>37352337
Sunday is international long run day. Saturday is also acceptable if you have stuff to do on Sunday, but you should run your Saturday run on Sunday.
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>>37354861
You need to run more and train specifics if you want faster times. I had 48 min on the 10k at 36 km per week and once I got to 60 I almost ran 40 with almost no speed work. Anyway 47-48 min for a 10k is not bad at all, keep at it
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>>37356478
I partially tore mine alongside with meniscus from a sudden twist and it took me around 6 months but after 3 years I still have chronic pain in certain positions and I can't do one legged squats on that knee. I can run with no problem though
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is the treadmill runnerfag approved?

i like using the treadmill because going on higher speeds forces me to go at that pace.
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>>37356987

Treadmill should always be a last resource.

For actual running training, you usually don't want to go fast anyways. I think one speedwork per week should be enough. The rest of your runs should be done at a comfortable pace, no matter how slow.

I know I got significantly faster since I started doing that, instead of going at goal pace every run
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Mon-Weds-Fri-Sun are 45 minutes slow, Tues is simulated 5k race (currently just under 25 mins), Thurs is hill repeats, Sat is 100 minutes slow (currently just over 9 miles). I am 190 lb fatass (down from 330).
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>>37352337

Do you guys do hill sprints? I've been doing 3 sets of 8x10 second sprints with about 4 minute's rest between the sets, and the rest between individual sprints being the walk back downhill.

Trying to work on maximum power and keeping my body fat down during bulking. Is this routine good or just really stupid?
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>>37357192
Not him but even with proper form and increasing incline to 1?
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>>37357671
what about decline?
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>>37357671
That only helps to get closer to running outside. But, it can't get as close as actually running outside....

Only reason to use boringmill is for hills training if you live in a flat as hell area
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>>37357671

Incline to 1% puts the energy level at about the same as running outside on a flat surface. However, running on a treadmill will never adapt your joints the way running outside will. The belt motion reduces impact. Treadmill is fine if you just need to cut weight, but if you want to be a runner/raver you have to run outside.
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>>37358834

Runner/racer. Fuck my phone.
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>>37358834
To look at it another way, can I expect to have less joint issues down the line?
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Who /c25k/ here?

I'm on a cut, and thought fuck it I may as well get round to being able to run 3 miles at the same time. I lift 3x weekly and I'm also on week 3 of couch to 5k. I don't go crazy on going as hard as I can, this is just about a fun version of bike cardio.

Might cap it off with a proper 'group 5k' like Park Run or something. Maybe one of those faggot 'tough mudders'.
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>>37359419
>tuff mudder
don't be a faggot anon
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>>37359384

Maybe, maybe not. The body adapts to stress. Running on the road makes the joints strong enough to handle it. There are 80 year old road runners. Depends on genetics and how often etc. If you are worried or hurting, try swimming or biking.
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>>37359433
I j-just want to run with qt p2ts anon, honest.
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>>37359419
my heart feels like it's taking up all the space in my chest when i try to run for more than 2 minutes.
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>>37359456
If you want to run with qts, run a real race. Most of the girls there will have better bodies anyways.
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>>37352337
Ran a 14:00 2 mile on Friday. Working my way up to 6 miles per week. Then I'd like to bump that up to 10 then 20 maybe 30. Ideally I'd like to run 2 miles in 11:00 or lower.

Tips on getting faster? I used to hate running but I'm really realizing that its not hard, you just have to not stop.
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I bought tights to wear them under shorts to go running and now I wear them all the time because it's so fucking cold where I live

Are there an equivalent for the upper body?
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Every pair of shoes I use tend to wear off a lot from the heel, what am I doing wrong? Also, what cheap brand is the best brand to buy?
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Is it a good idea to run on the rest days on a lifting routine? Ive started doing SS after doing C25K for a while but when I tried running the day after a lift I felt like I had way less stamina. Would running defeat the purpose of the rest day or would doing both in tandem make me more athletically balanced in the long run?
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>>37360951
this is a good question, someone answer
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>>37352337
Running:hurts my feet
Make my ankles bleed
Hurt my knees
Hurt my hips
Hurt my shins

Literally never had leg issues until I started running. Never swimming, biking, hiking, heavy squatting. Running is shit
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>>37361023
Pro tip: you are doing it wrong.
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>>37361023
Human being are designed to run... You just had bad form.
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>>37360951
you are heel-striking, not necessarily a bad thing, You foot is getting ahead of your hips when it first contacts the ground.

To fix it, you need to increase your cadence, and shorten stride. This will result in your foot hitting the ground under your hips. Takes some time to get this to work
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>>37361277
Thanks breh, what about the shoe brand thing?
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What do you guys wear when its starts getting cold?

I find that once I've been running for 5mins or so, any hoodie or long sleeve I'm wearing gets uncomfortable from sweat and stuff, yet I'm still cold from wind and temp.
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>>37361335
i dont know whats good on the cheap side, I use Adidas boost, saucony zealots. You should look at their lines, also New Balance has some cool tech in their new shoes.
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>>37361363
Skin. Try to survive through the pain for the first 10 minutes, after that it's all a smooth ride.
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>>37359456

>wanting to waste time, effort, and money on women participating in an event so they can put pictures on facebook

you're better than that, anon
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Getting a pair of sneakers for casual trail running and wondering which of these two look slightly less hideous or if anyone had experience with either.

Left: Brooks Adrenaline ASR 12 GTX

Right: Asics GT-2000 4 Trail

thanks family
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Why do you retards do this long distance running bs? You do realize you are killing your gains and fucking your joints (good luck with that in your 40+s). Cardio is good but don't be a retard and do shit like cycling or swimming instead.
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>>37361363
just have like 2 minutes of cold then once you're into the run you heat up quick
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>>37361599
You don't know who Jack Lalane is, it seems.
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>>37359419
I thought week one of c25k was running 30 seconds and walking 30 seconds . And doing that for like 20 minutes total.

I don't know if I can run 2 mins straight..
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>>37362273
You can, you just don't know it yet
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Any good apps you use?
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>>37361023
i can see how running can make your feet/shins sore if you don't run often, but how in the fuck do your ankles bleed?
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>>37359419

> Torturing newbies with a harder than normal c25k program

Why is that even necessary? There was nothing wrong with the old program. All you're going to do is put people off.
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>>37357707

>decline run
>do it anyways

In all seriousness I'm really pumped for the 5K season. Opened up last weekend at 18:56, hoping to hit low 17's by the end of the fall. The most important thing I have found is to equally mix moderate pace/distance and sprints, and avoid using a track.
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>>37361023

Sounds like you are landing on the heel directly. Land between the ball of your feet and the middle. Think about how a cat prances about. You need to have what I can only describe as "roll over."
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>>37361548
I'm a bigger fan of how the brooks look and a bigger fan of brooks in general, maybe I'm biased. I haven't used or heard anything about either of those shoes, though.
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>>37359419
10 weeks for 5k?

Untrained my first run was 10k. That was as a spooky pack a day skeleton.
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>>37363563
heh

Untrained my first run was a marathon and I fueled it on wisky
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>>37363594
If you think that's some boisterous braggy remark you really have to reevaluate what kind of a easygoing on yourself pussy you are.


Any man, be it not a fat sack of shit - can run 10k.
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>>37363563
My first ever run was 20k after heart surgery, two packs a day and being 300lbs
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Why does it feel like all the lactic acid are in my ankles? Like, they get stiff as fuck.
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Anyone else do barefoot / vibrams running? I'm working on my distance atm and did a 10k yesterday.

Calves are a bit tight today but I'm considering trying a short run to see if it helps.
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Gonna pick up running on my rest days Bois.

Someone post the original C25k please?

How fast do I run? Do I track my heart rate?

Thanks guys. Will give updates Tuesday.
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>>37363610
This.
When you first start running you see 10k as a sort of grail. Do a few 5k's and you easily do a 10k as long as you pace yourself properly.
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>>37363894
How many barefoot/vibram runners you see during (ultra)marathons.

There's your answer. Wear shoes you hipster.
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>>37363918

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml

I looked around for a few, and this is the one that makes the more sense. I'd also add a 5 minute walk at the end of every workout as well.

Run at a comfortable pace, basically that you feel that you can talk without gasping for air every phrase.

I don't think you need to track your heartrate yet, but keeping it on the moderate zone (145-155 for me) should be ok.

Good luck anon :)
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>>37363918
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>>37352337
Ok guys, exams are almost over, and I can get back to lifting then. But I've been telling myself I'll start cardio for months, and haven't done it more than once every few weeks.

I wanna run a 5k, or even a 10k some time at the end of this year.

Should I go with c25k? Or is there a better app out there?

Lifting is priority, and I'm bulking right now, but I'm willing to spend 3 nights a week doing some form of cardio. Can even take it up to 4, if it'll help.
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>>37364305
With shoes is obviously easier so anyone who wants to hit the highest distance / best time will wear shoes on that day. This doesn't prove Vibrams useless. They're for training, not for competition.

Analogy: You also don't see anyone powerlifting without powerlifter shoes. And yet powerlifters can benefit from training without shoes or with different shoes.

For the record, I'm skeptical about doing ALL your training in Vibrams.
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>>37364838
>.gif
Kill yourself please
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>>37364973
C25k is a good start if you haven't been running lately. If you feel that it is too basic, you can always skip a few workouts until you feel you are at a good level.
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>>37357192
>I know I got significantly faster since I started doing that, instead of going at goal pace every run
How does that work? I mean how does running, say, 10k at a comfortable speed improve your times more than going all out every time?
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I run on Tuesdays (when I do my intervals and tempos), Friday (6 miles, no speedwork), and Saturday (long distance 12-20 mies) run. The Friday and Saturday is part of my cumulative fatigue training.
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>>37365997
Someone more knowledgeable than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but here is how I understand it.

The general idea is to make your body used to running. So running at an easy pace allows you to run for longer, which means an increased mileage per week.

Since you are running at an easy pace, your muscles recover faster. On the other hand, if you run at goal pace every time, you're damaging your muscles faster than they can recover (efficiently), and you end up in a plateau after a few weeks.

The thing about all this, is that you start noticing that your "comfortable pace" slowly gets faster and faster, which means that when you're in a race situation, you'll be able to push yourself faster as well.
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>>37366186
Correct since your vo2max has went up and your muscles have adapted to the beatinngs.
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>>37356796
The docs tested my meniscus if it was torn but all the tests were negative.
I have a sort of pulsating pain though.

If I was gonna take a wild guess, only the MCL is partially torn. But considering there is no swelling or bleeding, it should be fairly minor and heal out within a few weeks.
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>>37352337
How do I stop my underwear from riding up my taint when running?
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>>37366865
don't wear any
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>>37361548

Those Brooks have a Goretex liner, that's what the GTX stands for. They'll be waterproof but won't breath well. Go with the Asics, or the Brooks Cascadia (non-GTX) or the Adrenaline ASR.
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>>37361599

Running is like lifting in that it only fucks up your joints if you do it with bad form. The exact same arguments apply.
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What routine can i do while i'm trying to get better at running, preferably calisthenics? Also how can i avoid shin splints, bought new shoes but still hurts to run, will it get better if i run over grass instead of concrete?
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>>37365997

For a detailed explanation from both a practical programming and exercise physiology perspective, read Daniels' Running Formula, preferably third edition or later.

The short version is that the physiological systems that allow you to run faster 5ks and 10ks respond to different types of stimuli. Paces faster and slower than, say, 5k pace allow you to stimulate your body this way. Your ability to clear lactic acid from your body during a race, for example, is improved with running at around half marathon race pace. Your top speed is improved by sprinting. So you do a variety of paces and distances to maximize your fitness. Think of it this way; you would train differently if you wanted to hit 10 reps at one plate on the bench vs 1 rep and 185. There's some crossover there in terms of what you'd be doing, but they'd require different training.
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>>37367240

Grass is a better surface to run on than concrete, yes. Just watch for uneven ground so you don't twist and ankle.
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>>37367270
>>37366186
Thanks for the advice anons, I already planned on doing some sprints and uphill to increase my speed, I guess I should also do slower but longer runs, I already started plateauing on my 10ks and 5ks.
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>>37363563
>>37363622
lol you dumbfucks

There is a difference of running as a skeleton and someone with an extra 70 pounds on them.

The largest I have been is 265lbs when I played football. Nose Tackle. I have always fuckin hated running even now when I weigh 180lbs. I look like a twig compared to before because 180lbs on my body type is fuckin nothing.

Some people just do not have a runners body. When I lift and train I just get huge which makes running even harder. People with skeleton bodies are natural runners.
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>>37354619
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Just reached My goal of 10k in 30 min. I Will never make it annons
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>>37361023
Nigga you need different shoes
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>>37361417
Not the anon you replied too but I usually pick a hottie to run behind at 5 and 10ks. I just focus on her hot ass running and then when I am finished I go home and jerk off like crazy to it.
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>>37361599
>killing your gains
Don't care about. If I did, I'd lift more often.

>fucking your joints
http://www.runnersworld.com/injury-treatment/osteoarthritis-in-runners
http://www.everydayhealth.com/news/what-joint-docs-say-about-running/
http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134861448/put-those-shoes-on-running-wont-kill-your-knees
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1948208,00.html
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/25/why-runners-dont-get-knee-arthritis/?_r=0
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/blogs/on-fitness/2008/08/12/3-myths--and-1-truth--about-running-and-your-health

tl;dr--running strengthens your knees. Just don't be a jackass about it, go slow, make sure you have good form, and don't fucking ego-run as it leads to injuries just like ego-lifting.
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>>37367407
That's an awfull lot of words to say "but not for us manlets".
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>>37361599
because I like it
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>>37357273
You realise by giving yourself no rest days you will never Improve.

Just an injury waiting to happen
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>do 5k run at night
>3.5k in, spot some asshole getting into my path out of nowhere, about 100m ahead of me
>pick up the pace to outrun this old looking bastard
>get to about 10m from him
>it's actually a cute girl
>almost sprint past her for the patriarchy

only the 4th time I'm doing 5k but last time was 32:45 and this one was 30:40, this is much more fun than running 2k, 2k is fucking dogshit you gotta go fast and everything hurts.
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>>37370035
Not in the case of running no. It's perfectly fine to run every day as long as you don't go all out every day. I am running 6 days a week for the past 5 years and on the free day I lift (legs). I feel better that I ever did
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>tfw new shoes gave me a morale boost that shaved off 30 seconds off my 1k time
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Ran 4,6km last week in 19:30, speed is not too far from 1k speed (~4:00), so I guess I need some more speedwork. Should for example 4x1000m intervals be good or should i focus on sprints?
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>>37370514
4x800m would be better I think. Also, your long run should be at least a 15k
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>>37370514
It depends on your goal. For example if you want to do a 5k in 20 min flat you could train to run 1000x5 repetition in 3:30 each for example. You can apply this to a lot of shorter distances. If your goal race is a 5k (which is run at vo2max) you want to train for vo2max, that means km or mile reps (basically longer intervals of around 5 min). But you should mix it up. Do 400, 1000 reps, do mile tempos or 20 min tempos etc.
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>>37370221

Everything should hurt for a 5k, you're not pushing hard enough.
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Did my first 5k event the other day and no one was running. Way too many people with their kids just walking.

Next time I'll just sign up for a half marathon.
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>>37352337
Anyone have advice for a flat footed anon? I have orthotics but I'm wondering if my form should be any different from the norm?
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>>37373255

I have no advice. I was blessed with normal arches and a neutral gait.
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How do I prevent cramps beneath my rib cage area when running? Could this be due to eating <1 hour before?
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>>37352337

usually friday night or saturday morning. I hate long runs so I try to get it out of the way as soon as I have enough time (not a work-night). If I wait til Sunday I usually just end up skipping it.
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Started running about 2 weeks ago Iv'e been running about 3 miles steady every morning waking up at 5am, hopefully I'll transition over to 5 miles every morning in the upcoming weeks. Iv'e set goals to train towards a triathlon, so far got a pool available now just scouting around for a cheap road bike to train on.

All of this has made me realize why people hate cardio on this board, been lifting for 3 years and it is the most taxing thing on my CNS to do right now, I cannot recall a time before where I would be completely drenched in sweat.
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>>37373767
yes you would want to wait minimum of an hour and a half to two hours after eating anything that can be considered a meal.
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>>37357274
I take all the hills hard on normal runs because I'd just get bored otherwise. Usually a big confidence boost desu
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>>37361363
It all depends on how your body operates at different temperatures.

For wearing warmer clothes I proritize hands>upper body>head>legs
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Any recommended programs out there for guys who can already run? I'm way past c25k stuff

Current 2 mile - 14:00
Goals :
2 mile - 11:00
5 miles - 35:00
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>>37374344
increase your mileage, run fast a couple days a week. beyond that, you could look into interval training i guess, but youre really not at a high enough level to warrant such training. mileage is the most important thing.
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>>37374538
Thanks m8. What kind of mileage should I be working towards?
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>>37374744
idk. i assume you lift because everyone on /fit/ lifts, so i doubt you want to run 6 days a week. but if running is your goto workout, then 25-35 mpw with a maximum of two slow days per week should give great results
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>>37374773
Its not my focus but I'd like it to be. My goals are definitely cardiovascularly focused and I don't need to lift much more than I'm currently lifting.
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>>37372490
Sign in for a real 5k. My town has a competitive 5k, where I got a 22m run, and still got in the bottom half of the runners. Good times
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>>37373255
>flat footed

Yeah just run. Stop making excuses. Your time will only be marginally slower than someone's with normal pronation, and only on 10k+ races.
I have flat feet and look: >>37370284. You can do it, mang.
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>>37374344
https://kat.cr/daniels-running-formula-3rd-edition-2014-by-jack-daniels-dr-soc-t11973825.html
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>>37374344

for marathon distance.

increase aggregate weekly mileage by 10% every week by adding Ks on the long sessions, then gradually all sessions after a couple weeks.

eg:

M: Short (6k)
T: Long (11k)
W: Long(8k)
T: Rest
F: Short (6k)
S: Longest (15k)
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>>37370221
Good progress tbqh, after a month you'll be hitting 24 minute 5k's and your progress will start to really slow.
Thats when it's time to add sprints and longer runs, interval training will help with speed and add a 10k+ run once a week for better endurance training too.
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Anyone else run the London 10k marathon yesterday?
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>>37378655
that's not a marathon you autist that's a 10k

It's like saying look at that thin fatass
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>>37368475

10k in 30 minutes would get you a scholarship at most American colleges and universities. Did you mean 5k, or 40 minutes?
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>>37352337
Ay lads. /plg/ here, I kind of like running and kind of hate it, haven't done any in a couple months. How would you go about incorporating some running into a 3x/wk full body lifting program? I lift pretty consistently late afternoons and early evenings, volume spread pretty evenly between the days.

Not trying to win any marathons here, strength is still definitely my priority, just trying to get in shape to finish a 5 or 10k without embarassing myself.
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>>37360654
Long wool underwear works good as a base layer. Maybe some of those compression shirts that are marketed as cold gear work too, but I wouldn't expect them to be very cheap.

>>37360970
Depends on how far you are into SS (how fatigued you are the day after), and how seriously you take your lifting. I do 3-5 kilometer runs on rest days just to stay well rounded, but if squatting four plates in as short time as possible is your biggest ambition right now, you might want to tone it down.
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>>37377484
>>37378224
Thanks guys

Do y'all prefer to run a route in the street or go to s track?
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>>37378997
Your best bet would be a longer run on Sunday and a couple of shorter ones spread out during the week. See for yourself if running on offdays is better than running after a workout, since it's all personal preference
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>>37379419
That's more or less what I was thinking, a longer cruiser one day and one or two shorter, faster ones. I think it'll have to be off days, lift Mon PM, run Tue AM for example.
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>>37379367
In terms of enjoyment, a route is better for me. There is a trail-like path that goes along the river in my city. Beats the track any day,
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I do a leg day upper body day split switching out whichever day is dominant for a week.

Use to just run 2 miles ever monday tuesday and friday but now i jsut do it on leg day. Upper body i suppliment the cardio with crunches and pushups.

Shit sucks
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>>37362429
This.
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>>37362826
I'm guessing his shoes are chafing.
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>>37379367
Both man. The fun part about running is you can run anywhere
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Just moved to a new Area that has a large lake that i've started to walk around, the reason i walk is because after running for 10-15 minutes my shins start to cramp up and i can't continue, i have really tight hamstrings aswell so i've started to foam roll and stretch both.

Does anyone know how long roughly it'll take for my shins not to cramp up anymore?
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>>37361548
got the brooks adrenaline on the left recently.
reason was because I can actually wear them outside for casual shit like going shopping without looking like a retard. if thats your thing, go with the brooks.
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i'm a high school cross country/track girl and now I wanna get into lifting because without practice everyday im afraid ill get skinny fat and just wanna try it out to be toned anywhere else besides my legs for once
any advice on where to start?
5k PR: 21:34
1500 PR: 5:42
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Ran 2 miles today in 13:05

Is it possible to get any better without hurting myself?
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>>37361599
>good luck with that in your 40's
bruh my dad is in his 50's and can out run the fuck out of me.
https://www.athlinks.com/Athletes/46161118

My dad is literally my motivation for working out. If I git gud, I might be able to do a triathlon with him and keep up. Also started running a month ago haven't had any leg pains and I've never felt better. TY /fit/
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>>37382821
>Running General
>Asks lifting advice
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>>37382821
>TONED

When will people stop perpetuating this memeword?
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Good running shoes for people with overpronation issues?

I've heard Nike Lunarglides have good pronation support, and they're pretty cheap at my local outlet mall.
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Who's /fitbit/ here?

Inb4 'you're slow' yeah this is a couch25k workout (running/walking intervals).

I like it because it gives me data to evaluate my performance on, just like when I lift.
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live by the beach in norfolk, uk

i usually do 5k 2/3 days a week but the weather has been absolutely dreadful and i hate running in 30 mph winds and rain. i wanna train for a 10k because i feel like i'm comfortable with distances between 3-4 miles
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>>37383614
Nigga I ran around in Cromer during my weekend visit and it was fucking shit with sea mist and gloom, just nut up and get on with it.
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>>37383636

i've been trying. i run for around 2 miles or 15 mins and then i'm like yo this fucking sucks
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>>37360105
Just keep running and it will get easier over time.
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>>37383669
Go with some kind of running app that logs your progress so you have something to work against, instead of just going out the front door with no mission.

If you have the money I'd recommend using a tracker like fitbit or garmin or whatever, gamification nigga.
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>>37383709

yeah i have a fitbit charge, i've had it for a while. i think you're right in that i should harness it more. i think i want to set my step count goals per run because what i do is just look at distance and then go "yeah ok" and give in
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>>37361023
your shoes are killing you son get a good running pair
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>>37382432

I have the same problem I believe there shin splints
Mutherfuckers hurt
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>>37382821

Do 6 days of running per week with a long run, a relaxed tempo or fartlek, and either a hill sprint or very short track session each week. Long run should be 20-25 percent of your weekly miles. Relaxed tempo should be 5k pace plus one minute per mile. Do a simple lifting program with high weight and low reps a la Starting Strength after your run on those two workout days. Examples can be found in the sticky. Eat lots of food, drink lots of water, but stick to simple stuff (meat, nuts, fruits, veggies, potatoes, etc.) but don't become a social outcast to do so.

Do that and you come out of summer both toned and ready for XC season.
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>>37352337
Disappointing asses.
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How often should you change running shoes? I've had mine since November, I've run a shit ton since then, and now my feet are starting to hurt. Is it time for a new pair?
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>pulled both quads by breaking into a sprint without sufficiently warming up (apparently)
>have not been able to walk normally for 6 days
>cannot do any leg days at the gym until condition improves

Right one is actually almost ok, left one is still a piece of shit until I've been walking for several paces.
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>>37386399

Lifespan for crappy shoes is 200-300 miles before they stop absorbing shock. Good ones will go for 400-600. Once you get above $100 or so you're paying for style and cushiness (which isn't the same as shock absorption). The Nike Dart, Pegasus, and Vomero for example cost $65, $110, and $140 respectively. The Pegasus and Vomero will both last far longer than the Dart, but the Vomero won't last longer than the Pegasus (though many people will say it feels better on the foot).
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>>37377280
I just wanted to know if I should be changing up my form to account for my feet. Literally when did I let on that I don't run?
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I run every day. Got a 10K coming up in 2 weeks that I'm hoping to win. Currently clocking 35-36 minutes.
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My legs our of proportion compared to the rest of my physique ( 5x5strength program victim). Would doing a 5K two times a week be sufficient to hold on to any gains while simply focusing on upper body at the gym?
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>>37388084

running does very little to help with leg strength, so no I doubt that would keep your gains by itself
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>>37387874
Excellent time anon! For how long have you been running?
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>>37386399
I change them around 300-400 miles. I still use them for walking though
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