http://www.usdoctor.com/testone.htm
>the average testosterone level in men today is 300 lower than in 1940s
/fit/ what is to blame for this? pollution? medication in our water? cultural shifts causing physiological changes? are we less active? could it have just been a sampling error, perhaps they only sampled military men vs today's total male average?
my money is on the jews and feminists, im sensing some fuckery is afoot
op here i meant 300 ng/dl lower today. the average in 1940s was 700. pls no bully
Why the fuck are people always blaming jews for everything
The world is more comfy
/thread
>>37348746
its tradition!
>>37348746
it's just a prank bro...
>>37348681
That doesn't state how they found testosterone levels in the 1940's; because of this, I can only assume that testosterone checks back in the 40's could be highly inaccurate.
>>37348681
my guess
-sedentary lifestyle
-pollution and feminine hormones in the water, i actually have a PhD friend in biochemistry, her thesis is about that, fucking fishs are changing sexes as we speak.
could be pesticides in our food, estrogen everywhere, traditional foundations of masculinity are being criticized and being deemed harmful.
maybe the onset of birth control meant women could fuck alphas when they are in there 20s, then settle down with some low-test rich nerd in her 30s to actually have children. maybe, also because of birth control, alphas relized they could get more pussy if they never settled down and having sex no longer equalled getting someone pregnant. so they never did. just kept fucking new whores.
>>37348681
>>37348690
mine is 860 ng/dL so idgaf. low test guys are cute anyway
Xenoestrogens. Duh.
>>37348839
the average test levels are lower. I assume because you're on /fit/ you lift, and probably have a higher test than the average man today.
had you been born in the 1940s, your test would have been higher.
enjoy your shitty gainz while my grandpa was getting twice as big in half the time
>>37348746
Jew detected. Shoo!
>>37348681
LMAO @ low test cucks
>not being on doctor prescribed TRT
>ISHYGDDT
>>37348746
Usually it's because it's easier to blame a scapegoat than to admit your own shortcomings or do a serious analysis of the world's economy/western culture.
>>37348681
Almost certainly due to the obesity crisis.
Being overweight or obese causes significant derangement of sex hormone levels for both men and women.
>>37348746
Oh anon...
>>37348817
I remember reading about that happening to frogs when I was in AP environmental science a few years back.
>>37349415
You are talking to much god damn sense on this board.
>>37349288
B r e h s . . .
>>37348746
holdover traditional nativist and christian cultural antisemitism plus the fact that the left is trying to destroy western civilization and culture and jews are very prominent on that side of things. of course jews being a tiny, high achieving minority they become disproportionately prominent in all sorts of things, including anti-left stuff. basically the left is the True Enemy and for a bunch of historical reasons and other shit Jews are overrepresented there.
>>37348746
Because the jews hate us and they do everything in their power, short of direct war to destroy us. They have their hand in nearly everything, from porn, to destruction of family roles, abortion, feminism, womans vote etc.
Knowing of their tricks makes it so that their involvement becomes rather a surprise. They meddling is the norm.
>>37348681
>>37348746
Because even if you try to block reality, almost everything that is harmful to society is owned by Jewish people.
>>37351892
>>37351908
You guys realize that Christianity literally is just a Judaism shill religion, right?
If you want to fix this first you have to reject the Christian establisment that has taken over the West. The Christian church is controlled by the Jews no matter how much they may pretend otherwise.
Xenoestrogen in food, water, soaps and a general war on men and masculinity starting at a young age. Welcome to Western civilisation 21st century.
0==8 Gas the wives!
>>37348746
bcz 6 millions was not enough
>>37351908
>>37351892
>porn (decreases love, test)
>media (like telling you to drink that soda, good goym)
>soros (arab spring, femen)
>medical industry (give your rowdy kids some pills you filthy goym)
> feminism, sjwism and other garbage (to decrease male desire to find a mate, while making the female masculine)
>fat acceptance
>anti war, anti imperialism. Egalitarianism that destroys old masculine gateways.
and they generally help prosecuting traditional things, like the christian bakery not wanting to make fag cakes.
jews are to blame for most of the nu male problems.
>>37348681
Diet change, probably
>>37351945
>believing in love
lmao are you literally retarded
Love was made up by Jewish advertising companies to get you to buy valentines day shit for your gf
>>37351939
Not really. The issue why a lot of Jews are doing this is because they literally think they're the chosen people, we're also talking about the zionost not your average jew in Israel. Christianity is, at leasthe biblically, supposed to be about loving your neighbor; Judaism is not so kind and on top of that most globalist jews are ethnically jewish but they don't really believe in it.
>tfw agree with you guys but actually have some Jewish genes in me on my mom's side
>tfw will never be a beautiful pure Aryan god
She's not Jewish by religion or anything, but she does have some Jewish ethnicity.
fuark
what do
>>37348746
SHUT IT DOWN
>>37351968
Why do conservative Christian retards always support Israel then?
why are so many Christians disgusting fat lardasses with no regard for physical fitness or eating properly
Why are Christians always ranting about how much they hate Muslims, but they would never dare say anything bad about Jews
Why do they literally believe in a Jewish religion and reject the old European ways as paganism or "Satanism"
>>37348746
the jews that run the world put estrogen in the food/water
look at a average 14yo chick now compared to 10 years ago, I've seen these hoes with double Ds & ass for days on some Kylie Jenner shit, while a average 14yo boy looks thin/feminine & just overall small compared now
>tfw picking up sister from school & you noticed all the girls are bigger than the guys now
>>37348681
If you wanna boost your test to upper normal level ,just take clomid like 12.5 mg per day. It is not roids and you will not get mad gains, but that upper normal level puts me in right place mentally. If you are paranoid about estro effects ( which are non at this low level ) have some estro blocker on your side, My levels where like 500 ng/dL and now are just over 1000 ng/dL. Been doing this for year and it is cheap as hell.
>>37352043
take it easy hitler
>>37352043
You're retarded, it's common knowledge that girls go through puberty at a much earlier age
It's not a rare sight for girls to be taller/more teenage looking than boys around the age of of 12-14
>>37351905
top kek
>>37352142
>It's not a rare sight for girls to be taller/more teenage looking than boys around the age of of 12-14
Now, yes
>>37351978
there's no such thing as jewish ethnicity you do realize that
>>37352172
Uh.. yes there is, several in fact
The original israeli ethnicity doesn't exist anymore but ashkenazi sure as hell does
>>37352142
this is half true, what that anon said hold some truth
i see a lot of 14 years old who look like 20 nowadays compared to when i was at that age
>>37352172
What do you mean
Evolution. Feminisation. End of war, end of agression. Decreasing of level of test as a result.
>>37352177
askhenazi are basically freaking euros who are jewish if i have to sum it up
there's a fine line between caucasian and other ethnicities, and jews trying to make it out as if they have their own ethnicities
>>37352197
Ashkenazi is a long line of like greeks/armenians and turks mixing iirc
it is its own ethnicity
>>37352197
Then why do Jews have features that distinguish them from Europeans
>curly hair
>big nose
>sloped forhead
>tfw I inherited all of these from my mom
fuckk, seriously what can I even do about this
I had to shave my head because I didn't know what else to do with my jewfro
>>37352043
>the jews that run the world put estrogen in the food/water
"The" food/water? What food/water? All food/water? EVERYWHERE? Thats ainple then, you can run tests to prove this theory correct, until then ita just you saying it.
>look at a average 14yo chick now compared to 10 years ago, I've seen these hoes with double Ds & ass for days on some Kylie Jenner shit
Puberty is linked to weight. Females are getting more food and eating more, leading to puberty earlier.
>>37352113
Where can you get your bloodwork done?
I dont knkw how high my test is and I doubt Iwill be taking supplements but hey it would be nice to know.
Also vitamin d defincency can lead to lower test levels.
T. Duchtman
Okay so we all know there is a problem, now how do we fight it?
How do we make sure our sons don't end up indoctrinated cucks into the cult of feminism?
>>37352308
>tfw you are aware of the problem but it's too late for you
how can you fight the problem when genetically you are the problem
>>37352308
Pin 'em with roids when they grow up
>>37352315
Its not genetics, its the environment, and we can fix it. Kill feminism, stop using plastic, stop polluting and stop letting chemicals into the drinking water
>>37348681
low fat diets are encouraged for everyone not just people with imminent heart risks ,no smoking,no physical labour,driving everywhere,probably stuff in food too
>>37348746
It's a time honored tradition.
>economy gone bad? Jews
>social degeneracy? Jews
>rape? Jews
Never fails. You'll find something.
>>37351905
All of them look jewish as fuck,whiny bitches
>>37348681
Reduction of physical labour due to industrialisation.
>>37348681
Hmm.
>1946
>WWII just ended
>millions of men who fought are coming home
>all able bodied men recquired to serve in the military
>2010s
>good amount of men are fat and lazy
>diet composed of mostly processed foods
>have to be motivated just to go outside
>>37352359
B-but muh economy!
>>37352471
This
You know what raises testosterone? Being chock full of American pride and bloodlust for dem Nazis
10 years ago, I predicted that men in 2016 will be extremely tall, with almost no muscle mass and will show an unnatural vanity and narcisissm - together with all kinds of psychological illnesses.
I was, of course, completely right. People here in Germany average around 6'4" in height now while being extremely skinnyfat at the same time (ie, a rounded belly but 18" thighs). They have no drive, they are complete cowards and they spend their time styling themselves and being as peaceful and meek as possible.
Please read Glubb's "The Fate of Empires" for an explanation. It's a short essay. We are basically fucked. Our culture's spark of vitality is completely burnt out.
>>37352564
being tall is good though
>>37352564
please off yourself
>>37352607
All cultures that have died featured men much taller than their eventual invaders. Height is correlated with lowered testosterone.
Hence why oxen are taller/bigger than bulls and castrates (the guys that were castrated to sing better in the past) were generally enormously tall. And let's not forget Klinefelter's:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelter_syndrome
>Klinefelter syndrome or Klinefelter's syndrome (KS) (/ˈklaJnfɛltər/) also known as 47,XXY or XXY, is the set of symptoms that result from two or more X chromosomes in males.[1] The primary feature is sterility.[1] Often symptoms may be subtle and many people do not realize they are affected. Sometimes symptoms are more prominent and may include weaker muscles, greater height, poor coordination, less body hair, smaller genitals, breast growth, and less interest in sex.[2] Often it is only at puberty that these symptoms are noticed.[3] >Intelligence is usually normal; however, reading difficulties and problems with speech are more common. Symptoms are typically more severe if three or more X chromosomes are present.[2]
Klinefelter guys are super tall, weak cowards with no interest in sex.
You say height is good. But height = less testosterone.
>>37352641
>>37352564
lmao it's broscience shit like this that makes me keep coming back
>>37352677
Ask any farmer what happens to animals that get castrated before puberty.
>>37352641
>this is how manlets defend rationalize their failure
"Testosterone levels influence your height. The Medical News reports that testosterone deficiency in teenage boys can stunt growth. A study in the New England Journal of Medicine indicates that testosterone treatment can stimulate height growth. The study's researchers conclude that low doses of testosterone can stimulate height increases in adolescent boys with delayed growth and development."
manlets confirmed low test
>>37352677
You sound insecure. Are you?
>>37352641
then why are girls shorter than guys
>>37352696
I knew that was coming, but I'm 6'2". It's a laughable notion that testosterone would make you taller when everyone can compare oxen and bulls, spayed and unspayed cats, castrated and not castrated dogs, etc.
It's always the same: No balls before puberty = greater height.
It's also telling how you completely ignore the rest: Less muscle mass, feminine mentality, etc.
I guess I hit a little close to home?
>>37352713
Because they are girls, not guys. Are you dum-dum?
>>37348746
the typical influential jew has a clear tendency towards becoming as wealthy as possible with no regards for others, except perhaps other jews. they have historically always done this, and this combined with their belief that they are truly gods chosen people and therefore superior to every other group rubbed, and still does rub a lot of people the wrong way. that's why they've been kicked out of various kingdoms and countries dozens and dozens of times.
>>37348681
>>37352456
This.
Because men used to work hard and eat meat without shitload antibiotics and veggies/fruits without pesticide.
>>37352736
I'd love to be able to do that
Just maintain my own farm up in Yukon or something, grow my own shit and make my own power
Sadly only few can afford that kind of life.
>>37352728
But if lower testosterone makes you taller, why aren't girls taller than guys
>>37352721
There's more than one hormone in the body.
Testosterone is not the only hormone related to growth, and using increased height as a proof of low testosterone is a bit of a throw.
Anyway, I'm arguing with your reasoning -- it's not effective.
http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/23/why-the-dutch-are-so-tall/
Next time, use studies to argue, rather than sillyness:
https://www.endocrine.org/news-room/press-release-archives/2006/testosterone_lvls_in_men_decline
but also, do not act as if a single study is proof
here's a tl;dr:
The average levels of the male hormone dropped by 1 percent a year, Dr. Thomas Travison and colleagues from the New England Research Institutes in Watertown, Massachusetts, found. This means that, for example, a 65-year-old man in 2002 would have testosterone levels 15 percent lower than those of a 65-year-old in 1987. This also means that a greater proportion of men in 2002 would have had below-normal testosterone levels than in 1987.
“The entire population is shifting somewhat downward we think,” Travison told Reuters Health. “We’re counting on other studies to confirm this.”
Travison and his team analyzed data from the Massachusetts Male Aging Study, a long-term investigation of aging in about 1,700 Boston-area men. Data from the men were collected for three time intervals: 1987-1989, 1995-1997, and 2002-2004.
***
The researchers observed a speedier decline in average testosterone levels than would have been expected with aging alone.
***
It’s likely that some sort of environmental exposure is responsible for the testosterone decline, Travison said, although he said attempting to explain what this might be based on the current findings would be “pure conjecture.”
Unfortunately this seems to be the only study on it, so it may be the case that only bostonians are losing testosterone, we'll have to wait and see for later studies.
>>37352471
>dumb, uneducated statement
>edgy facebook picture
Kill yourself
>>37352564
>10 years
>enough time for any noticeable change in physical attributes of the population
Babies born at the time aren't even in secondary school. Enjoying that confirmation bias?
>>37352736
>implying chemicals are bad because muh artificalness
Enjoy your shit load of diseases and vastly decreased agricultural output. Just the Haber process that produces ammonium fertiliser alone is responsible for half the world's food base
>>37348681
>>37351673
>>37351892
>>37351908
>>37351939
>>37351945
>>37351965
>>37351968
>>37352043
>>37352733
>2016
>still falling for the JOOZ DEED EET meme
/pol/ fuck off my board
>>37352471
I refuse to believe that you downloaded that picture off facebook
>>37348862
>had you been born in the 1940s, your test would have been higher.
this is a complete misunderstanding of statistics and science.
people like you ruin online scientific debate
>>37352934
Lol no u fuck off
>>37352213
You aren't European. Either kill yourself, or embrace your kikeness
>>37348746
Because they're over represented in the upper echelons of politics, business, banking and the media. If there was some kind of agenda going on its logical to assume that the Jews are at the vet least aware of it and allowing it to happen, if not outright promoting it themselves.
>>37348746
Jews are culturally capitalist and egotist. Their sense of tribalism will lead them to help each others and disregard the "gentiles". They are contemptful and greedy.
>>37353031
Maybe they're good at what they do? If high up Jews are pulling up other Jews, how did they get there in the first place?
>>37348746
>>37353030
Why did my dad have to marry a kike slut. God fucking damn it
why couldn't he marry a beautiful Scandinavian goddess
Why do I have to suffer because my dad is a cuck. this is such bullshit.
>>37352692
I asked my friend who works on his dad's farm and he had no idea what you were talking about.
>>37352877
>diseases got stronger and immune to the current chemical compound
>LETS MAKE STRONGER CHEMICAL COMPOUND TO KILL ALL THIS SHIT
>ok
A friend inherited his great-grandfathers house with nice looking stone walled water well. Back in those days it meant everything, and it was cold water all the time. He did one water test in local town - water was ok, so no harmful bacterias like E.Coli and shit. But he said to his family,wait a bit with drinking, let me test it again. So he got the sample to his sister,his sister to her friend who is a Chemical Goddess in company she is working for. Chemical Goddess calls - "FFS don't drink that water! It has so many pesticides that you should not even water your garden with it! I cant even guess how many yeas will take for all that to disintegrate..." So my friend thought about it, his relatives never used any pesticides so how the fuck... Answer; the fields that are own by private company and are at least 500 meters from that water well - they are spraying everything that moves on those fields with godknowswhat for years and years now. But those chemicals still managed to mess up the water,either by air or by groundwater.
Anyway, its in our food, its in our water so good luck /fit/izens and good luck to your natural testosterone!
>>37352934
>muh antisemitism
fuck off my board, kike
>>37348817
This. Also more people are fat and fat lowers test.
>>37348862
GRANDPA is in a NURSING HOME fucking GILFS while YOU waste time in the GYM with your INFERIOR TEST LEVELS.
What other studies are there on this?
I've only ever found the one that was done in boston.
I call it bullshit, no way in hell testosterone levels have fallen with almost 50 % in that small time span. Bullshiiiiiiiet.
>>37353716
It's all based on one (as far as I can tell) study on 1000ish men in Boston. The first tests were in 1987, not the 40s.
Context: Age-specific estimates of mean testosterone (T) concentrations appear to vary by year of observation and by birth cohort, and estimates of longitudinal declines in T typically outstrip cross-sectional decreases. These observations motivate a hypothesis of a population-level decrease in T over calendar time, independent of chronological aging.
Objective: The goal of this study was to establish the magnitude of population-level changes in serum T concentrations and the degree to which they are explained by secular changes in relative weight and other factors.
Design: We describe a prospective cohort study of health and endocrine functioning in randomly selected men of age 45–79 yr. We provide three data collection waves: baseline (T1: 1987–1999) and two follow-ups (T2: 1995–1997, T3: 2002–2004).
Setting: This was an observational study of randomly selected men residing in greater Boston, Massachusetts.
Participants: Data obtained from 1374, 906, and 489 men at T1, T2, and T3, respectively, totaling 2769 observations taken on 1532 men.
Main Outcome Measures: The main outcome measures were serum total T and calculated bioavailable T.
Results: We observe a substantial age-independent decline in T that does not appear to be attributable to observed changes in explanatory factors, including health and lifestyle characteristics such as smoking and obesity. The estimated population-level declines are greater in magnitude than the cross-sectional declines in T typically associated with age.
Conclusions: These results indicate that recent years have seen a substantial, and as yet unrecognized, age-independent population-level decrease in T in American men, potentially attributable to birth cohort differences or to health or environmental effects not captured in observed data.
>>37353582
kek
>>37353336
Except the alternative is letting those pests and diseases in your food. You take for granted that your crops aren't swarmed by locusts and caterpillars. Look up locust swarms in third world countries where they can't afford pesticides.
>>37353582
These get better and better every time
>>37348746
So what do we do to increase our testosterone levels /fit/?
>>37348746
Mein Kampf
>>37353899
>it's a /pol/ takes every religious text literally quote
Why don't you start with yourself?
>Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword
>For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter in law against her mother in law
>"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill,"
>>37354139
Most of /pol/ isn't Christian, you utter retard.
>>37354154
Have you been to /pol/ mate
I'm pretty sure they aren't Buddhist.
>>37352165
It's always been that way, retard, the more complex a life form is, the more time it takes for it to attain full maturity, and human males are genetically more complex than human females.
>>37354178
>males are more complex than females
The Y chromosome is 59 million base pairs while the X chromosome is 159 million.
>>37354175
>Have you been to /pol/ mate
have you
>>37348681
>2016
>not injecting yourself with atleast 500mg of testosterone per week
It's like you want to stay small and weak
>>37354246
And retards have a whole extra chromosome, but they are considered simpler
>>37352934
Feck off, 4chan is a right wing forum and there's nothing you beta leftists can do about it
>>37354342
i can fap with my left hand
>>37354342
>im a leftist because i don't blame xenoestrogen on jews
kek
>>37352564
The average German male is 5' 10" to 5' 11". Not fucking 6' 4".
>>37348817
>Fucking this
It's all those god damn chemicals they're pumping into the and they're also Turing all, the frogs gay
Luckily there just so happens to be a water filter that can remove those exact chemicals right here at store.infowars.com/-Propur-Water-Filtration_c_53.html
>>37352564
dont worry kamarad new germans will cover you
>>37348817
Don't drink unfiltered water.
>>37351939
You do realize that Jews didn't think too highly of Jesus, right? No, you have it all wrong. Christianity restored the focus of the religion on God and away from the self-absorbed lawmakers that dominated pre-Jesus times.
>>37351965
Look you retard strong fuck, the word "Love" is far reaching. In other languages, they have 6 or 7 words for Love to our one. If you think all forms of love are made up, you might be the dumbest fucking person I've come across in my life.
>>37348817
is bottled water ok ? I drink only tap water dammit
>>37354581
Please refere to the politically correct term "tanned Germans"
>>37355235
Bottled water is basically untested tap water so no
>>37354773
Why are you even interested in worshipping the Jewish god in the first place
This shit has taken over the west and basically wiped out the traditional European way of life.
>>37355315
so what the fuck do I have to drink ?
>>37355257
but thats racist term because its implying that they are different from old Germans. Btw dont worry if things get bad in Germany we can let you resettle Sudety again or something
>>37352187
>end of war
lmao, what?
People in the west eat more and are less active
Everything else in this thread is fucking nonsense.
>>37355436
Only drink redpilled water. Also, wear a gas mask -- too many exoestrogens in the air.
>>37348681
Two things
1. Men today are less active physically
2. Men today are rarely in the sun and often have a vitamin D deficiency.
Really these are the two biggest factors.
In the early 1900s, young boys were often working on farms all day long. In the sun and constantly moving.
>>37355485
All of this is based on one study of about 1500 Americans between the late 80s and early 00s as well.
>>37352934
i literally said it's not THE JOOZ you fucking moron.
>>37354301
>>37354246
>>37354178
What the fuck?
Is this american education at work?
>>37348746
Because it's always their fault? Weird question
>>37355436
Filtered tap water, don't worry too much about it anon
>all these xenoestrogens
>no oestogren
Y'all almost took the redpill. Birth control hormones are largely excreted unprocessed and that does not get out of even AlexJones filters. Whore pills make lady piss into an environmental hazard that is neglected.
>>37352934
This. /pol/tards leave.
>>37348681
SJWs.
>>37353716
>>37353797
Another vector that is tied to all of this is obesity/overweightness. The decrease of test is well documented with those people.
>>37354094
Decrease bodyfat (it increases estrogen)
Increase muscle mass (it increases test)
Dont eat sugars and this guide
How to block Xenoestrogens and rid estrogen dominance
Adopt a regiment of aromatase inhibitors
Note: Aromatase is the enzyme in your body that produces estrogen by taking estrogenuous compounds and turning it into estrogen:
Immediately ingest sources of indole 3 carbinol and DIM. You can obtain these from cruciferous vegetables or jewgle indole 3 carbinol for supplements that contain it. Too lazy?
http://www.lifeextension.com/vitamins-supplements/item01468/triple-action-cruciferous-vegetable-extract#panelSupplements
Read the ingredients list and plan on basing that around your next grocery shopping. Or just find that somewhere, buy it, or order it. There are other safe and natural forms of aromatase inhibition. Look them up at your own convenience.
Fun fact: Nicotine is a powerful aromatase inhibitor. It's also a stimulant. This is why the jews had the prototypical feminist adopt smoking and then soon after tried banning it. Smoking anything is bad but finding good safe nicotine sources is easy. Nasal snuff (no menthol), organic-nicotine vaping (without propolyne glycol and only organic vegetable glycerin added), and nicotine gum (depends on the brand) is safe.
Purge excess estrogens
Calcium D-glucarate. This one is harder to get in foods but you can jewgle that for food sources. If you don't mind pills and tablets, find it in supplement form.
Begin building testosterone
Zinc and vitamin d3 a re your friends. They're essential. Zinc is heavily present in meats. Vitamin d3 comes from sunlight. Draw your own conclusions from there. Because you have blocked aromatase, your body will not convert testosterone (at least not heavily) into estrogen like it normally would. You will begin replacing that much needed testosterone and shed curves, weight, and so on.
>>37358233
Give me a tldr
>>37358303
fuck you, there is no tl;dr.
>>37358233
Adding to you dear brother
ZINC
Zinc citrate is approximately 34% zinc by weight. For a dose of 50mg elemental zinc, take 146 mg zinc citrate.
Zinc sulfate is approximately 22% zinc by weight. For a dose of 50mg elemental zinc, take 220 mg zinc sulfate.
Zinc gluconate is approximately 13% zinc by weight. For a dose of 50mg elemental zinc, take 385 mg zinc gluconate.
Zinc monomethionine is approximately 21% zinc by weight. For a dose of 50mg elemental zinc, take 238 mg zinc monomethionine.
Zinc’s intestinal uptake is hindered by other minerals, including Calcium, Magnesium, and Iron, since they all use the same transporter.
>>37358233
I agree with parts of this. But remember, don't be afraid of phytoestrogens: A 2010 meta-analysis of fifteen placebo-controlled studies said that "neither soy foods nor isoflavone supplements alter measures of bioavailable testosterone concentrations in men." Furthermore, isoflavone supplementation has no effect on sperm concentration, count or motility, and it leads to no observable changes in testicular or ejaculate volume.
Xenos are bad though
>>37348791
Blood level faggot.
ng/dl indicates blood level.
>>37348791
They didn't check them in the 40s.
>>37358477
wat, what is the science behind these different zinc types? Also almost seems like a suicide thing, too much zinc past 50mg can keel you. How do I know that this is not just some /b/tard thing to mess with us?
>>37358579
lolwut
>>37354558
I have that filter and its pretty good
>>37358721
What's your point?
The meta-analysis had shown it had no effect on testosterone or sperm count.
A lot of Asian men have high testosterone levels when they're old, and they eat plenty of Soy.
>>37358670
"In "Orthomolecular Medicine for Everyone", Dr Hoffer writes: No known diseases are associated with above-normal zinc levels but more than 2 g (2,000 mg) per day can be harmful. Fortunately, there is no clinical need for such large doses. The largest dose used clinically was 220 mg, taken three times per day, for arthritis. At this dose, it may cause diarrhea"
>>37351965
Valentines day is a pagan holiday bastardized by the kites to sell you bullshit to collect more of your shekels
>>37358781
>Taking too much zinc can cause vomiting, nausea, loss of appetite, diarrhea, headaches and abdominal cramps, according to ODS. Adults should take in no more than 40 mg zinc daily. Taking in excessive amounts, such as 4 g zinc gluconate, which equals 570 mg elemental zinc, can lead to severe vomiting within 30 minutes. Zinc overdose can lead to kidney failure that will cause death, according to ACS.
>>37351905
God. These are the type of faggots you find in downtown Seattle drinking Starbucks on their macs complaining about the 1% and how colleges should be free
>>37352043
It's pollution due to birth control pills
>>37358826
Nobody's gonna have 500mg of elemental zinc lmao
>>37348681
>tfw xenoandrogens aren't as popular as Zoroastrians
>>37351968
All goyim are unclean and only exist to serve Jews and shall be treated as dogs and enslaved.
That's what the zionists believe.
>>37352014
Because they're the cucks that believe Jews are inherently good and entitled to something because they misread the fucking bible.
>>37352172
Kike detected
You fail to notice how one can only be considered ethnically Jewish if their mother was a jew, who is only considered Jewish if her mother was the same.
It's an old Jewish bloodline tradition that has been practiced since the dawn of kikes. So yes, you can be ethnically jewish, hence the common traits of curly dark hair (jew fro), large noses, the beady eyes, and sociopathic nature.
Every ethnic jew I've met presents the curly hair, beady eyes, and large nose, even if they're blonde or redheaded the tight curls in their hair remain present, and every one had exhibited behavior indicative of an inflated self worth and treated others as less than equal, even in elementary school.
>>37348746
Fuck off
>>37358877
Why do you need more than 40mg of zinc anyhow? Going through these types of zinc, I can see that they are not really that much directed towards better test. So where did you pull that data for these things to be beneficial?
>>37348746
Because it's always their fault?
>>37352213
Expose the NWO and the Jewish establishment for who they are. Bring more attention to the JIDF which still exists, and to the disconcerting Jewish dominance of Mainstream Media ownership, large bank ownership, and political agendas being pushed since the 50's
>>37358911
You don't.
I was just saying that "anything over 50mg" won't kill you.
>>37358944
>he thinks it's the Jews who are pulling the strings
Good Chap ;)
>>37352359
Which leads to epigenetics and persistent pass down of flaws
>>37352450
Because thereally is a disturbing link between jews and these things. It's fucking scary. Your average person who's a jew isn't the problem it's the fucking zionizts that own EVERYTHING
>>37352552
>>37352471
God dammed right anons. Look in any infantry unit at the men who actually enjoy their job.
>>37352564
>Fate of Empires
What's up, brother? Ready to take part in the rise of fascism?
>>37358721
What's yours cling point? The abstract he posted said that phytoestrogens are harmless, so what does showing their concentrations prove? Dumbass faggot
>>37359110
From what I understand it can even work like dummy estrogen where it take the receptors but does not contribute.
It probably has to do with the fact that people are fatter and nobody does fucking cardio anymore. The measurement is in ng/dL.
Your measurements are going to be a shit if you have high blood pressure and nothing is flowing properly.
>>37352178
Increased caloric content and accessibility as well as some epigenetics going on and probably social psychological factors --> earlier puberty (AGS is also occuring sooner in males too)
As for lower T in guys? Lower physical activity. Poorer diets. As simple as that.
Look at anybody who does moderate exercise and eats a fairly good diet and you'll find very good T levels. I'm a Biologist doing a PhD in molecular genetics, I had T levels of 1000+ ng/dl 2 years ago (am 22 now, I have been lifting since 16, I blast and cruise now, but 1 year ago I was natty.)
>>37359199
Also, xenoestrogens are stored in fat, if you don't ever burn fat, that shits gonna stay
Are testosterone levels results in blood tests, or are they a different kind of test one must take?
Allow me to expand on the ZINC topic in here.
http://examine.com/supplements/Zinc/
>>37358233
Diindoylymethane (DIM) is a component of
>Indole-3-carbinol (I3C)
found in members of the Brassica family. Most notably broccoli, kale, and cauliflower.
It has potent effects on estrogen metabolism and is able to keep the body relatively balanced (by preventing either drastic increases or decreases in estrogen). In small amounts, it can both inhibit the aromatase enzyme (and prevent conversion of testosterone into estrogen) and it can act on more potent forms of estrogen and convert them into less potent forms; this conversion reduces the overall effects of estrogen in the body. However, taking too much DIM at once can actually induce the aromatase enzyme and act in the opposite manner and increase estrogen synthesis.
DIM also exerts numerous anti-carcinogenic (anti-cancer) effects in the body and is one of the reasons this vegetable family is seen as healthy.
http://examine.com/supplements/Diindolylmethane/
>>37354139
Clearly a kike. Can we make him participate in "the running of the jew"
>>37354342
4 Chan is a Chinky image board faggoat
Lack of vitamin D. People go outside less
>>37348681
Explains the male feminists, gays and trannies
Did anyone actually read that page?
>The normal range of testosterone is reported as 350- 1200ng/dl. Studies in the 1940's showed the average testosterone level to be at 700 ng/dl, 300 ng/dl higher than for men today.
He just disproved himself in the same sentence.
350-1200 ng/dL is a range, a rather large one, and guess what is exactly in the middle of that range? 775 ng/dL.
So the median today by this retard's own numbers is higher than the average in the 1940's (700 ng/dL).
If you're cherry-picking your numbers you're quack.
And to the rest of the thread: learn to fucking read.
>>37348746
>>>/pol/
6 months and you'll come around
>>37352142
In a perfect world 14 year olds would NOT look like this. There is something in the water, in the food, in the air, wherever, causing this, and it must be stopped.
>>37348839
>no homo
