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Cutting down alcohol a lot (been lifting for 8 months made decent
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Cutting down alcohol a lot (been lifting for 8 months made decent gainz) but need to reduce bf%.
Do you make better gainz without alcohol or does alcohol simply put on more fat.
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What the fuck do you think, OP
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>>37260040

Alcohol is just empty calories m8
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Alcohol fucks with your test. Say goodbye to your gainz
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>>37260052
I know you'd lose more fat, but in terms of muscle gain I dunno.
>>37260053
Yeah but do you gain less muscle though?
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>>37260053
What does that even mean
All calories can be used for energy can they not?
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>>37260062
But I've been making good gainz consistently.
So if that's true I'd be making really fucking good gainz without it.
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>>37260062
>Alcohol fucks with your test

Link to study?
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>>37260079
op here. alcohol is high in sugar that is just going to go to fat. I do a lot of cardio (actually enjoy it). But even so I'm not pretending my current diet is great.
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>>37260090
But you can use that fat for energy
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>>37260085
op again.
I too would like to see something less bro-science about this.
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>>37260074

Alcohol decreases testosterone and increases estrogen, so yes it will fuck with your gains

Causes dehydration too

>>37260079

Empty calories just means they have little to no nutritional value except for energy
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>>37260079
"empty" calories means calories with no other nutritional value in terms of macros and micros

ie eating the same amount of calories of dark green veges vs alcohol, with the veges you get all the other good shit that comes in the same amount of calories
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>>37260062
you could always just inject yourself with more test.
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>>37260079
Empty calories means there's no nutritional benefit beyond the energy the food provides.

>>37260082
You made good gainz because you're a newfriend. Yes, you'll make better gainz without it, however the diminishing returns on your lifting will come much quicker if you continue to drink

>>37260085
http://pubs.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/arh25-4/282-287.htm
>Research with animals has consistently demonstrated an association between both acute (i.e., one time, one occasion) and chronic (i.e., long-term) alcohol consumption and low testosterone.

>>37260090
Alcohol is it's own macronutrient on top of the sugar already found in the drinks
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>>37260122
>animals
kek
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>>37260145
>Most studies of alcohol's effects on male reproduction have been conducted in rats because the rat model mimics the human male reproductive system.
Read the whole article, nigger
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>>37260040
alcohol is going limit the liver. It considers alcohol, a defcon1 situation. so instead of using its resources towards adaptogenic responses, its forced deal with the alcohol and adapt later.
If you're working out and drinking its like slamming your car into reverse while driving.
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>>37260162
>rats
yeah no this is typical masturbation not groundbreaking research.
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>>37260182

>delusional alcoholic who will cling to anything to disprove science because he wants to drink guilt free, like a fatty eating food all day
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>>37260182
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11912073
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/894528
There's 2 done with humans. It doesn't have to be groundbreaking research, it's research that leads to the conclusion
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>>37260195
>alcoholic
And yet I still have more gainz then you.
Literally lmaoing at your life.
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>>37260117
Yeah, but if you roid just to keep up your alcohol habit, you're a certified faggot
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>>37260040
read the sticky
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>>37260517
Am I though? Still making more gains than you bb ;)
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