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Rippletits confirmed for supporting Bernie Sanders in latest Podcast.

Should i still do SS?
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Why does /pol/ always have to be right?
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>>37218634
he has a podcast?!?!?!
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>>37218647
Source
https://youtu.be/wA-PlWjWoqA
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>>37218634

for all poltards complain about how easily-triggered SJWs are, it is surprising to repeatedly see how they are literally incapable of interacting in any kind of positive way with someone who holds a dissenting opinion

you dont have to agree with the guy's political opinions to learn strength training from him, holy shit.
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>>37218728
Then why are all lefties weak bitches?
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>>37218745

If only there was some kind of photographical evidence of a world-renowned strength coach and ex-Texas powerlifting champion wearing a left wing T-shirt to hand...

alas, I cannot find any such evidence to stump your watertight assumption.
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>>37218728
It's a meme you dip.

/pol/ yards don't mob around shutting down rallies and campus events, don't even attempt to compare the two.
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>>37218774
The shirt is making fun of Bernie you retards
Do you think rip supports Stalin an Mao?
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>>37218774
Quit memeing and show me a single leftwing acolyte who is not DYEL or a cheating fraud.
Compare Donald trump or schwarzenegger to Clinton or Obama.
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Literally cannot tell who is trolling and who just failed to get the joke.
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>Bernie shirt
>gun on table
Wew
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>>37218812
YOU'RE a joke.
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he supports trump tho you retards, the shirt is satire
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>>37218822
bernie isn't anti-gun

every single gun that mark owns he would still be able to own if bernie had his way
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>>37218812
ok... it's my time to shine

If i wanted to hear a joke i would have asked your 1RMs


Did i do it right guise?
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>>37218812
>literally
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>>37218792

Only because hardcore rightwing nationalism isnt as publically acceptable as leftwing simpering is. You know full well that rightwing conservative twats are some of the nosiest and most interfering people around.

Personally I hate all political extremists from both sides of the spectrum, but whatever.

>>37218807

tada

also i think its pretty funny that you think Donald Trump isn't DYEL, hes pudgy af i think
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>>37218677
hahaha
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>>37218869
Great argument retard. Never heard that one before.
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>>37218634
Bernie isn't a communist.... What the fuck why is America so stupid; I don't even like the guy and I still understand his basic political stance
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>>37218634
How can you wear that shirt unironically?
That's like wearing a Hitler T-Shirt
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>>37218896

>wow, everywhere i go people tell me the same argument
>i wonder if i should reassess my worldview and ease into a happier and more productive lifestyle?
>nah, clearly the fact that loads of people have made this point inexplicably makes said point invalid for poorly defined reasons that I can substitute for with a funny image!

surely having heard this argument before gives it weight?
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>>37218804
This.
The shirt pretty much means
"Bernie is a filthy communist"
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>>37218908
>wear that shirt unironically?
>unironically

He has a fucking gun on the fucking table, you stupid piece of shit.
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>>37218903
Americans consider communist everything that isn't 100% deregulated free market
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>>37218728
>>37218634
>>37218774

Perhaps you didn't watch the video, but just so you know, he admits the shirt is a joke, and he bought it to support "Liberty Maniacs", a right-wing company. Go to their site, it's full of stuff mocking Hillary/Burnie.
He's also gone on the record as a libertarian, and has worn an Atlas Shrugged shirt.

>>37218728
What you said isn't untrue though.
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No, it will only work for cucks.

If you are muslim, catholic, or orthodox then it might still work for you. Because your soul (and therefore the muscles in your body) are more resilient towards modern degeneracy.

The modern leftist opinions will instill atrophy into every fibre of your being.
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>>37218903
gommunist detegded
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>>37218928
>Memes are true because they are repeated often

Kill yourself
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>>37218634
>being a Bernie supporter is bad

When did this meme start?
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>>37218947
>Atlas Shrugged

Literally 16 year old edgelord-tier book.
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>>37218961
NOT AN ARGUMENT
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>>37218961

Thats not what I'm saying. I am saying that it seems that multiple seperate people have shared with you a line of reasoning, but that you have completely ignored it just because multiple people have suggested it to you.

Which seems a little like deliberately martyring yourself by trying to invent a warped worldview full of the things you hate so you can feel like you are "enlightened" compared to the majority and boost your selfesteem. Thats just a guess though.

Also, you are still throwing out the point for no reason.
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>>37218807
>Donald trump or schwarzenegger
>Donald trump
>not fat
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>>37218999
That's called husbando mode
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>>37218896
not an argument
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I hate you guys.
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>>37218986
>retyped your weak ass argument to mock it
>you agree, revealing that I have successfully shown you how dumb your logic was

Good show kid.
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a-are we going to talk about lifting?
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>>37219015
ONE DOLLAR
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>>37219022

so is this your first day on 4chan or do you just not know how the green arrows work yet
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>>37219022
heh you shown that kid *nazi salutes as a single tear comes to my eye*
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>>37218999
Mining that dadbod
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>>37219028

its more fun to poke the poltard desu
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>>37219028
Shhh
Only shitty Trump/Bernie shitty memes now
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Being an american must suck horse dick

Lets see
>cuck stereotypical socialist jew
>Lying and manipulative old fart
>le wall meme man

You are fucked


Not halal duudes
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>>37218807
Sully, the ER doctor who's also a Starting Strength coach and runs their scientific literature review group, is pretty left wing. He and Rippetoe give each other shit about politics all the time.
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>>37218903

most Americans believe that they'll one day be Trump while voting against their own interests or the betterment of society. Any involvement of the government is seen as intrusion into their lives meanwhile their roads are shit and their education system is a fucking disgrace, but it's okay because guns and believe they pay less tax despite them paying more than about everywhere but Scandinavia
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>>37219022
Just memeing f a m
gtk rwn
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>>37218947
This board must be full of autists because I took a quick look at the shirt and knew it was obvious satire.
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Rippetoe is shit. If anything this is proof not to trust him with fitness.html either
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>>37219057

i am always amazed by the fact that a country so obsessed with democracy can have what is effectively a two-party system

like, how
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https://youtu.be/xwbC_JytpjI
You retards
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>>37219028
get the fuck out
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>>37219047
o-okay senpai
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>>37219075
Democracy is a judeo-bolshevist meme
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>>37218903
Americans are fucking dumb. I got into an argument with a guy on twitter who literally rambled for paragraphs about Bernie is a communist and then 100 other people chimed in supporting this.

They literally think he's gonna control EVERYTHING
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>>37218728
>He's taking fitness advice from an obese old man
>Who is a LITERAL BERNIE SUPPORTER
>And a communist
>He is still rationalizing his choice
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>>37218634
NO. what a cuck
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Has anyone even watched the video? It's fucking great.
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>>37219104

Democracy is an atheismo-illuminati scheme, IMO

man's law supercedes god's law
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>>37218869
/pol/ isn't one person, or very extreme.

The left has made not wanting shitty immigrants or gun ownership extreme over time.
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>>37219075
Game theory. Given the way we elect presidents, an election with three strong candidates would most likely result in the candidate least like the others winning, so the incentive is for the two most like each other to form a single party.
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>>37219012
>>37219037

>mfw it turns out that /pol/ hates mexicans more than fatties

I always wondered
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>>37219231
Mexicans are literally the fattest people in the world
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>>37218864
Literally.
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>>37218634
seems like the guy who'll support trump instead
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>>37218677
i fucking love rip
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>>37218642
Fuck it im going back to /pol i miss them
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>>37219231
>>37219246

It's impossible to "defeat" mexicans.

They're way too embedded in our society. Trump is fighting a war that was lost during the 80's.
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>>37219320
maria is greek, not mexican.
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>>37219320
Illegals =\= Mexicans
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>>37219030
I've been on 4chan since 2007... honestly I don't give a fuck about the 'traditions' of proper green arrow use.
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Maybe you missed all the horrible communists on his t-shirt
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>>37219363

so it is your first day, right

thx for clearing that up
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>>37219358

then why build wall next to mexico?
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Leftist Scooby vs Mark 'kill a kike' Rippetoe in the ring.
Who wins?
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>>37219365
>MLK
>bad
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>>37218745
Don't confuse left wing with limp liberals; not everyone on the left is obsessed with idpol.

>tfw lifting to crush the skulls of the bourgeois
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>>37218981

a long time ago when the trump memesters came in full force
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>>37219376
You spend a couple months lurking and then try to fit in by doing faggy shit like this. In another few years you won't give a shit anymore, if you're still even here, I guarantee it.
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>>37219377
To stop people from coming in illegally you retard. Nobody's trying to ban Mexican immigration
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>>37219377
Retard?
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>>37219063

another 8 years thrown in the trash because everyone deluded themselves (again) into thinking that if they dont vote for bernie they can be that one special guy that gets everything in life!!! and becomes super rich because he worked sooooo hard!! and BELEIVED in himself xDDDxdDxdXDDxXDD
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>>37219385
You're arguing with /pol/.
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>>37219106

im pretty sure this country is gonna die over the long run because americans are too stupid to realize that their autistic republican ideals of no healthcare so if you break a leg youre fucked, dont make sense anymore in todays society
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>>37219438
>Nobody's trying to ban Mexican immigration

Speak for yourself.
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>>37219456
>>37219385
Martin Luther King is not on the t-shirt tho..
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>>37219475
Okay fine, Trump's platform is not banning Mexican immigration.
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>>37219385
MLK does not appear on the shirt so Im going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is a very clever joke about how the new MLK memorial was carved in China and kind of looks like Mao Zedong.
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>>37218999
how can he take care of his country if he can't even take care of hit body fat
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>>37218851
>bernie isn't anti-gun
Yes he is, and you are wrong. He has stated multiple times he wants to ban guns. Please shut the fuck up and jump off a cliff.

Also both of those guns are pieces of shit.
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>>37218807
Martin O'Malley

Also Trump is dyel as fuck, that dumpy turd has never touched a weight in his life.

On the plus side, it looks like you're retarded.
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>>37218981
Since he has been in government for 20 fucking years and has yet to do anything of value. But then again that is the best kind of government employee.
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>>37218634

you guys do know that rippletoe is a homosexual? r-right?
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>>37218903

Name one actual Communist thing that Bernie would NOT support. Pro tip, you can't.
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>>37219542

you're LITERALLY MAKING UP SHIT

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/13/hillary-clinton/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-voted-against-brady/

get the fuck off of my board /pol/ no one wants your cancerous shit here

ill repeat TAKE YOUR AUTISM ELSEWHERE

THERE IS A BOARD CALLED /pol/ WHERE YOU CAN PLACE YOUR MISGUIDED AUTISM AND OTHERS WILL LAUD YOU FOR IT
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>>37219562
>you guys do know that rippletoe is a homosexual? r-right?

physical culture is replete with old gay men. the gym was the only "safe space" for qweers back in the 70s and 80s.

yes, i knew rip was gay. i'm surprised more people aren't aware of this.
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>>37219562

rip's homosexuality is an open secret among the cognicenti of wichita falls
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>>37218851

False. Democrats DO want to ban all guns. If you don't agree, you aren't listening to what they are saying.

They know they have to do it one step at a time. The public will never go for a full repeal of the Second Amendment. But rest assured, there will not ever, ever, ever be a time when the Democrat party isn't trying to push some new gun law. They will not ever get to a point where they say, "okay, that's good, guns are sufficiently controlled."
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>>37219581
detention camps, secret police etc

Bernie is a center-left market social democrat
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>>37218745
I'm not weak, even by /fit/ standards and I'm for bernie. hate hillary though. left leaning independent. do you think that these sweeping generalizations have any basis in reality?
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>>37218903
>>37219106
>>37219468
>non-Americans come on a website that's 90% American and think they're opinions matter
cute
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>>37219649
strong slippery slope
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>>37218851
>bernie isn't anti-gun

From his own fucking website

>Bernie believes assault weapons, as well as magazines holding more than ten bullets, should be banned nationwide.

>Bernie has voted in favor of a nationwide ban on assault weapons, a nationwide ban on high-capacity magazines of over ten rounds, and nationwide expanded background checks that address unsafe loopholes.

He's as anti-gun as every other totalitarian liberal faggot.
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>>37219754
Do you honestly think most frequenters of /pol/ have real world experience after high school?
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>>37218869
>le rational fencesitter
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There are people on this board RIGHT NOW, who didn't realize the shirt is satire.
It's got Stalin and Mao on it and you think someone running for president would merchandize that?
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>>37218634
Triggered much OP?
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>>37219063
Our education system is a disgrace because of government interference.
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>>37219103

>those horrible knees

What in the actual fuck
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>>37219908
It seems right wing faggots succeeded in gimping it enough to make you stupid enough to believe that.
Class cuck.
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How will Bernie pay for his free shit once the rich GTFO and the middle class isn't able to pick up their taxload?
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>>37219966

The middle class will be the new rich. And thus, the matrix will cycle in dynamic equilibrium, each time purifying the upper class.

We don't need the rich. They can't exist without our permission.
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>>37219966
>rich
>pay their taxload

lol, damn son you're retarded.
you've been cucked
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>>37219609
YOU GET OFF THE INTERNET FAGGOT!

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Bernie_Sanders_Gun_Control.htm

>Quoting politifact
Fucking die Bernie shill. TAKE YOUR SOCIALISM AND YOUR FUCKING MUH FREE COLLEGE AND JAM IT INTO THE FUCKING ASS OF YOUR AIDS INFECTED BOI PUSSY AND LEAVE NO GENETIC TRACES OF YOUR EXISTANCE FOR THE FUTURE GENERATIONS TO BE WEIGHED DOWN BY THE DEAD WEIGHT OF YOUR GENES!
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>>37220071
>using facts
>DIE SHILL

you seem like a logical rational person
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>>37218774

Did you even look at the shirt or the website it comes from you fucking mong?

The whole website is just pro-Trump shit and t-shirts making fun of Bernie.
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>>37219320
>trump hates brown people
Nice meme
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>Bernie is my comrade

Obvious satire to make fun of Bernie..
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>>37219381
Rip wins.

Scooby would try whining to rips face and sending a swarm of dyel fanboys, but rip would just use a 12ga and Swiss cheese him.
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This is what I dont get about American politics. Why is it so black and white? Why is everyone so fucking shocked when I am pro Free Market and essentially a capitalist, but I also dont oppose gay marriage and I am pro choice.

Lifting related: cutting out carbs more and my bodyfat is melting off but my lifts are stalling like fuck lad. God damn it.
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>>37219438
Why do americans think a wall is going to stop illegal immigrants?
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>>37220258
You must not live in a heavily populated area if lolbertarianism illicits shock.
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>>37220598

I live in Scotland desu. But even here, not just Americans Ive talked to, are all fucking socialists. Ever since the independence referendum everyone has decided they're anti business. Thanks SNP. Christ.
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>>37218851
>>37219609
>Supports semi-auto ban
>supports mag ban
>supports expanding background checks
>Supports banning private gun sales (The "Gun Show Loophole")
>F rating from NRA.

About as anti-gun as you can get. Bernieshills are the worst kind of liars.
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>>37220746

>Ever since the independence referendum everyone has decided they're anti business. Thanks SNP.

that wouldn't be the same party who were going to cut corporation tax to almost nothing then?
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REDDIT HATES HIM
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>>37221076
I am now a #ScoobMissile
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>>37221006

Yeah but everyone just blindly supports their equality based Scandinavian model without even realising they are fucking the country up. Also SNP want huge taxes now.
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>>37221156

They've made some poor decisions, like the corroboration thing, the council tax, the trams off the top of my head. They've improved a lot of things but, I would generally say public services are at the best they've been in my lifetime. They're okay, not great but definitely not fucking the country up.

They're by far the best Holyrood government we've had though. I didn't vote for anyone this time. Even though I wouldn't vote SNP the rest are a fucking train wreck comparatively.
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>>37219908
Yes, government interference by right wingers trying to destroy public education so it could be privatized and monetized.
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>>37220109
>you seem like a logical rational person
YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!!!!

I am just tired of Bernie and Hilldawg supporters spouting bullshit and trying to get away with it. If your candidate is antigun, just fucking own it. They are either lying or wishing for them to be something they are not, which is either dishonest or delusional.
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>>37218677
On smoking:
Guys putting any cylindrical objects in your mouth and sucking on it is a problem.

Hahaha love Rip
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>>37218634
He can talk shit about Bernie all he wants but the fact remains that a North Korean 56kg female olympic weightlifter can high-bar back squat more than his best squat-morning (low-bar back squat).


GOMAD = GO BALD AND GET CANCER

Rippetoe is a retard.
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>>37218634
Rip is pretty libertarian last I checked.
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>>37221370

Lmao, SNP split n to everything is more money at it, such as they throw muh nurses at everything whilst local health services are cut and at breaking point, but hide behind muh more nurses. They've made an utter mess of a previously excellent education system that's so bad teachers themselves are beginning to rebel against it. They flip flop on everything every year too.

And as things get worse they pull out a second referendum card to distract everyone from their errors that theor army of voting drones will always be oblivious to.

Sage because not fitness
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>>37218677
his burly old man voice is fantastic
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>>37218634
Theres only one uestion that matters for this.

Is that a double stack bersa on the table?
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>>37221431
gotta love that deeply, deeply closeted man
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>>37218869
>right wing is worse even though they don't actually do anything

here's your (you)
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>>37218677
Is riptoe from arizona?
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I don't care what political party he follows. He is and always has been a fucking moron.
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>>37222151
No, Texas.
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>>37222174

yeah I wish they could hold a conversation without just memeing a bunch of kneejerk nonsense
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>>37218634
That's an anti-bernie shirt you fucking idiot.

Rip is an old Texan, and as such is, shockingly, right wing as fuck.
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>>37222222
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>>37222228

He's not right wing, he's a center-left libertarian.
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>>37222260
>left libertarian
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>>37222260
Libertarians love to pretend they're centrists, but the reality is they're just right wingers who aren't religious.
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>>37222222
IT'S BEAUTIFUL
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>>37222222

>six 2s in a row

What is this even fucking called?!
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>>37222222
these are a lot of repeating numbers
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>>37222285
>>37222282

He's pretty liberal to be honest. Just not progressive, and hates PC culture.
People think he's anti gay/women/black/mexicans but that's literally describing his closest friends.
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>>37220260
Because it has worked in other places? Look at your wall in your homeland you kike, illegal Egyptian immigration plummeted after Israel built a wall.
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>>37222303
>that file name
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>>37222306
A Twix
Or just a 222222 GET
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>>37222282
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>>37219028
welcome to /fit/
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>>37222306
>>37223217
sextuples
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>>37221675
>KKK members are closet niggers
Love your logic, man.
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I almost got triggered until I realised the shirt was a joke.

Rippetoe is a sick cunt. A true mad man.

LOLing at people in this thread who think Bernie isn't a communist. Actually read something about socialism and you'll realise that it's just a building block of communism.

>b-b-but what's wrong with communism???

It doesn't work faggots. It doesn't fucking work.
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Surprising. Got the impression he was conservative.
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>>37224164
Why not just a Twix? This is a board full of fatties or recovering fatties.
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>>37224721
Yeah. It's one of those things that sounds good on paper, but is complete shit when put into practice. There will always be people with more power than others, and they'll always find a way to stay on top. "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."
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>>37222222
congratulations on those digits
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>>37222222
fucking hell man calm down
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>>37225232
>tfw your birman bro won't ever wake you up at nigh, puke on the carpet and cover your clothes with white hairs
I miss him so much.
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>>37225287
That cats eyes are beautiful! He looks like he's a little shit though. And looks like one of those cats that you would need to get shaved or else they'll walk around the house with dingleberries stuck on their ass/pants.
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>>37218634
Rippletits: good for when you want a 19minute explanation on how to do a imple exercise spoken by a man who sounds like a slow colonel sanders who keeps making himself seem smart by naming the anatomy as he dribbles shit
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>Starting Socialism
>Great Oats Marxism Anti Dollar
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>>37225297
Birmans have a normal frame but females can be fairly small.
They have a long coat, so it's better to brush them at least once every two days or every day during moulting period if you don't want to have hairs everywhere.
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>>37221495

awrite mate, if that's the way you say it is that's how it is
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>>37222222
witnessed
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>>37218807

Donald Trump is an unlifting sack of drooping fat who only got rich off of daddy's money leveraged with government intervention.

Of course, he IS a Big Government Democrat, so I guess it fits that he'd be an utter pussy.
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>>37222331

The only thing he's remotely liberal on is the drug war. Like any Libertarian, he's opposed to it.

Pretty much everything else that fits into a right/left dichotomy, he leans right on. Like any Libertarian.
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>>37225330
I meant "little shit" like the kind of little shit that likes to swipe at you/bite/kick/knock stuff over/etc. Nice to know, though. How are they for allergies? I'm allergic to almost all cats/dogs/ anything with long hair, saliva, and dander. There are a few exceptions, though. I'm fine with my moms cat even though he sheds constantly and has some really dry skin patches so there's dander all over.
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>>37218804
Actually, he probably does. Bern victims aren't very smart.
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>>37225658
He's a tuxedo half Maine Coon if that helps.
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>>37222222
Pretty gud, have a (you)
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What Bernie supporters seem to forget is, you can't force rich people to pay taxes. The panama papers and all the other shit over the years proves this. The ones who'll get fucked by the social programs most, will be the middleclass. Everyone will just be slightly above the poverty line then.
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>>37225743
>taxing the rich is pointless because they won't pay
That's retarded. The top 1% in California pay 45% of their income taxes.
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>>37225743
the panama papers have been leaked in an american attempt to disarm major foreign tax havens and boost their own, like delaware and shit so they can keep the business at home
Not like I expected you guys to know it, all I need to judge your knowledge about politics is doing ctrl+f for the word ''cuck'' in ANY thread about politics.
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>>37218634
I thought he was an ad that ripped on both Trump an Bernie...
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>>37225683
Not really, it seems each domestic breed somehow have a personnality but all are easy going.
A cat can be agressive and fearful if something went wrong during the first days (mother, weaning, etc.) but it's unusual.

Allergy is caused by a brotein if I remember well.
Some breeds produces more of it than others, hair length isn't very relevant.
Siberian cats, Blue Russians, Balinese, Korat and Savannah are supposed to be low allergen breeds, having them neutered helps.
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>>37219833

>90%

more like 38% of 4chans visitors are american.. how does it feel to be a minority?
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>debating politics like y'all making a difference or will end up changing eachothers opinions
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>>37219658
>FEMA
>CIA

Try again.
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Based Rippe.
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it's two new yorkers... one is batshit and the other is delusional

we are gonna lose either way
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>>37226542
>y'all

Spot the nigger/hipster.
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>>37219068
Me too, but the funny thing is that there are people who like the association between Bernie and the OG Communists.
He *did* spend his honeymoon in literal Soviet Russia...
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>>37218642
I found this absolutely hilarious.
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>>37218822
I can walk by Bernie's house legally with my concealed or visible gun and no permit all day loooooong.
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>>37218677
I'd like to see Rippletits call Harley Race a pussy, then. That fake, chickenshit mark would get his shit kicked in.
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>>37225766

>That's retarded. The top 1% in California pay 45% of their income taxes.

How many of that 1% take nominal salaries, but instead are provided perks which are taxed at a different rate? Did you know that things like company stock options are only taxed based on capital gains, which run far, far below the tax rate for high earned income. If a company does poorly, then losses can be written off lowering the effective tax rate of a person substantially. Wow, the 1% is paying the top tax rate on only 5% of his actual income, good job!

Why don't we also think about this for a second? If we raise taxes on high earners and corporations, what happens to jobs? You add further incentive to outsource. Manufacturing and such have already been outsourced. If you ever talked to Dell/Microsoft support since the 90's you'd know that technician level jobs have also moved.

Clinton has stated that she wants more H1b visas, which effectively would outsource more advanced technical jobs by bringing in lower paid foreign workers. Disney just did this by replacing long-time IT workers, who had to train their own Indian replacements otherwise they wouldn't receive severance.

Moving a business costs money, but there is a point where it becomes more feasible to move it than pay higher rates. If you don't believe me, look at the explosion of business growth in Ireland, which is very "business friendly," as well as 3rd world countries.
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>>37224721
>LOLing at people in this thread who think Bernie isn't a communist. Actually read something about socialism and you'll realise that it's just a building block of communism.

how do you even come up with this

>LOLing at people in this thread who think people who eat food aren't obese. Actually read something about eating and you'll realise that it's just a building block of obesity.
>insert in place of eating and obesity: drinking and alcoholism, or wheels and a car, bricks and house etc.
pretty much what you said
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