So, it's a well known fact that there are all kinds of shills on 4chan (posters who get paid to essentially advertise products or popularize opinions anonymously). It's gotten fairly obvious on certain boards what these shills are pushing.
The question is this: are there shills on /fit/? It seems to me that given how scummy and scammy the fitness industry is in general, there ought to be a shilling presence here.
This is quite possibly the best nude picture in the history of the internet
Tbh i have never felt like i've been shilled on any board. Pls give us an example
>>37083540
Kinobody shills in here for sure. Other than that, I can't really think about other brands being obviously pushed in here.
>>37083745
It is
>>37083540
>those hamstrings
yeah big time liam rosen shills all over the place, mods really need to start doing something about it baka desu senpai
>>37083540
>full frontal feminism
>tanlines
>>37083782
can we get sol invictus banned first
>>37083540
The High test are Feminist shills. Trying to brainwash /fit/ guys into liking chubby women.
>>37083540
>legs noticeably thicker than torso
Hnnnnnnnnnnnnnng
>>37083540
I am worried how much it bothers me that most of those books are pleb-tier.
Not really a shill since I got a good deal and it was effective, but there was one guy about 6 months ago that would post about a Canadian health supplements company he was setting up.
I kinda wonder what happened to him and I hope he's doing well. Dude was on the level as far as I could tell and I liked his product.
As for other shills, idk. Can't imagine shills would succeed on a shit posing environment so why would anyone bother shilling here.
namefag yolo posts jb in /fraud/ to keep them bumped
then when newfags asks for sources he asks for their email to get them in touch with "a friend"
has happened in multiple threads
it's most likely him or a friend who gives him a cut
>>37083800
i'm more worried about how pleb-tier those books are
Mark Rippetoe and his Starting Strength church
>>37083800
>>37083860
>hating on alice
>>37083872
>encouraging people to download Rip's book for free is shilling
>>37083768
>Kinobody
This is the one im 100% sure with
>>37083540
>How to tell if your cat is plotting to kill you
KEK
>>37083540
>le oatmeal
Into le trash xDDD
>>37083800
>Nineteen Eighty Four
>pleb tier
I can get you dismiss books not designed for your gender but atleast look at all of them before flipping your shit
>>37083745
the perfect female physique!
>>37084352
Do you understand what the word "most" means, motherfucker?
>>37083768
The functional patterns guy (sells some retarded crossfit-ty shit) also posted here
>>37083540
> it's a well known fact that there are all kinds of shills on 4chan
Yeah I bet companies are really scrambling to scam you out of your autismbux.
>>37083540
>She will never sit on your face
>>37084433
yes. it means 'all without exeption', motherfucker.
>>37083789
Calm down, assblasted cuck.
Vegans shill the fuck out of this board.
>>37083765
Visit /g/
>>37083540
>ON brand supplements related thread EVERY SINGLE DAY with a pic attached
I'm 100% sure they're shills. There's just no way from different people
>>37085128
Whats wrong with ON? I love their stuff
>>37083768
>>37083941
>Kinobody
What is he trying to sell?
>>37085242
Just because a brand makes great products, doesn't mean they can't be shilling.
the HEIGHT, FACE, FRAME guy shills this board daily
>>37085323
meal plans and programms
>>37083768
God I hate Kinobody.
Perfect example of a guy who is inherently beta but tries so hard to seem alpha.
But I can still see the beta in his eyes.
>>37085387
Bad Trolling/Spamming is not the same as shilling, you retard.
The vegan shitposters are 100% shills, though I think they do it for free.
>>37085242
You even shill on Sundays?
We don't really have shills as much as weak willed individuals that specifically shit on the fitness industry. /fraud/ and /dnp/ generals.
As for specific shilling, no one is pushing diets or pills.. protein powder is just loved in general, as is pre-workout.
Dunno, man.
>>37085443
>protein powder is just loved in general, as is pre-workout.
Most of the time I'm getting the opposite impression. Every time protein powder is mentioned you get 5 replies saying "just eat your calories" "it's just wasted money" "egg whites are better" "just drink coffee" and other replies in that manner.
>>37085521
Well there's the people who are all about getting it out of food, but there's a wide benefit from whey and the powder. You get that dissent but no one is pushing any brands.
In their defense, you can get it out of food but for those of /fit/ who don't earn a lot, your best concentrated dose is in a bucket of powder which they fail to realize. It's easier to just assume everyone earns as much as they do.
>>37085443
>no one is pushing diets
We have multiple vegan shitpost threads daily. Every couple of days we'll have a paleo thread.
>>37083540
That's a guy, right?
>>37085242
Nothing wrong with their product. But the shilling is too obvious
Anyone who browses /fit/ everyday like me should know about this. It's just typical
>attach 1 ON brand protein/creatine/bcaa pic
>hey guys! Does this work?
>hey guys? What do you think of ...?
>hey guys! Your favourite ...?
I mean, you can have different people asking this once a while. But every fucking day? Every fuckihg thread using the samr format???? A retard can figure out what's going on
You know what I'm talking about, right? /fit/
Product shills? Probably not, at least not many.
Youtube channel shilling, on the other hand, is absolutely rampant.
>>37085657
I think you're right, but jeez, how much do you browse /fit/ every day in order to even see these threads all the time. Usually they get 2 replies and die.
>>37085610
Well I meant fad diets like atkins or liquid diet bullshit. Our biggest are keto, veganism and sometimes paleo which is more of a lifestyle thing I guess so I didn't chalk them up.
>>37085242
ON Vanilla Icecream protein powder tastes like utter shit.
Since Vanilla is my goto flavour, i can´t stand this. I have no clue about ON´s French Vanilla, but i´m afraid of giving it a try.
>>37085777
Oh yeah, I forgot keto too. I think those largely being lifestyle choices makes the shills even more dedicated, since its almost religious to them. Not so much with keto since that's mainly filled with fatties doing their first cut, but the paleo and vegan nutters especially.
>>37083540
I must ask, sauce?
Whey
Jeff Seid
Kinobody
To name a few off the top of my head
>>37083789
>daily reminder that sol aka tomato is a 19 year old virgin that lives at home in Texas with his mommy. Ignore any fitness or social advice from him.
>>37085824
Easy to ignore people like that shilling for a lifestyle. They're basically the jehova's witnesses of the board.
'Sure, i'll take your packet. Now I'm gonna close the door. Bye'
>>37085850
Add in latsbrah and vegan stains. It's so blatant that every thread about them was posted by them, and half the damage control or praising comments are from them too.
>>37085720
I only browse during my job break time. They just happened to shill at that time everyday
>>37085850
>whey
no
>>37083540
everyone assumes there's a shill around every corner so people get called out for being shills so often it's unlikely there are any actual shills because they would get found out immediately
>>37085923
>nice try cunt
l've never actually considered someone would advertise here like that.. "suprised o-face"
>>37083920
i'll hate on anyone with shit taste in books
>ywn sniff that top book
>>37083540
Do you know what's worse than the occasional paid post on 4chan? It's the shitshow of shilling accusations on boards like /pol/ and /x/ that derail every fucking thread. Mind you, both of those are magnets for people with a tenuous grasp on reality – maybe it's different on other boards.
Shill all you want; I'm capable of making up my own mind, but don't turn every thread into a discussion about whether someone's shilling – that's fucking tiresome.
>>37085959
define '''''good''''' and '''''bad''''' taste
>>37085992
This.
/pol/ is more paranoid about "shills" than any other place on the internet. It's honestly impressive what an insane echo chamber they've created just by accusing anyone who disagrees with the board consensus of being a shill.
I've been accused of shilling simply for asking if anyone had any experience with a particular product. Does that count?
>>37086171
It's a literal safe space, akin to tumblr, except instead of calling you shitlord or white male cis scum when you disagree, you get called JIDF, shitskin, mudslime, shill, or leftist. They're so terrified of any even remotely dissenting opinions that they just screech buzzwords and spam shit until it goes away and they can go back to the comfortable fantasy they've invented. It's honestly embarrassing, and I'm always amazed when people proudly proclaim to come from /pol/.
>>37086184
Nah, that's just naivete and believing any 'product' is worth something
For a while planet fitness and mcdonalds had shills here. And it worked 4 mcdonalds. I got a bunch of mcdoubles.
The worst shilling is from fraud. Guys get so upset when a new source comes up or someone mentions they use something other than what they sell.
>>37085992
>>37086171
>>37086202
Just because you get insulted when people don't agree doesn't make it a "safe space". You can say whatever you want but if you can't back it up you'll be dismissed. It's called "politically incorrect" for a reason.
bernouts are somehow surprised that a board that detests jewish communism hates their candidate.
>>37083540
soylent faggots are the worst. They are too common and their product is shit
>>37083804
>why would anyone bother shilling here
Where there are eyeballs, there are shills.
There are likely FAR more lurkers here than you might think, and the anonymous nature is conducive to shilling.
If the marketers don't care about being called a nigger or a faggot here or there, why wouldn't they?
>>37085916
Meant ON whey obviously.And you're blind if you don't see it
egg meat and dairy industry shills everywhere here
>>37083765
Did you just type Tbh as T B H
>>37086506
test
desu senpai
>>37083540
Rich piana writes about 28% of the posts on /fit/
>>37083540
>tfw will never fuck and impregnate such a perfect body and raise the child coming from that perfect body
>>37086591
I knew impregnation was a fetish, but raising it? Cmon now...
>>37086640
kek
>>37085850
Whey is constantly getting shat on. I just started eatingit and feel like shit because of you fags
>>37083745
Anyone ever notice the feminism book?
>>37085875
> It's so blatant that every thread about them was posted by them
Yhea all of those threads that shit on them are totally shill threads.
Since none if you are identifying the OP girl pic, talk about this outstanding product. No shills.
>>37086770
We all probably do. But nobody cares about some made up ideology when there is a real naked body like that in front of you
>>37083540
this girl looks like some italian broad i banged a while ago
nice memories, thank you OP
I have the full set, but you'd be disappointed.
>>37086958
go ahead
>>37083540
>The Joy Luck Club
>Full Frontal Feminism
>The Kite Runner
>The Bell Jar
>Eat Pray Love
Do people actually read this shit or do they just stack them and sit on them?
>>37086958
Ugly face? :(
>>37086958
just post it you cruel son of a bitch
>>37086898
>Banned and not for Human Consumption (Gives Unfair Advantage In Human Sports)
I love how that's listed as a positive
>>37087184
How is it not though?
>>37083920
So the grill in OPs pic is named Alice, anything more especific to help find sauce or moar pics?
>>37087229
She's not. Alice in wonderland is one of the books.
>>37087196
You would imagine that if it's banned it would cause you to fail a drug test
>>37086958
I remember I saw the set a few months ago and was also disappointed but idgaf, hook me up
>>37087261
But the disclaimer is there. So if you compete in whatever tested shit you don't take it. Or stop taking it at the right time.
>>37087300
good point
I just realized that this is being sold as a real product, I honestly thought it was just a meme picture. wow
>>37087370
No, EBay search, I buy them in 3 pack. Make offer, don't pay full price. It metabolizes how your body uses carbs, calories and proteins. Basically, your muscle eats it as fuel rather than spring it as fat. You become 16 again.
>>37087472
Why would I waste my money on that garbage and give up my natty card just for a small boost? I'd rather just take a low dose of test.
There was an entire thread on here couple of months ago that was just a guy that allegedly worked at McDonald's fielding questions. Not surprisingly, working for Micky's is actually totally not bad, quality control is hugely important to them, and they do their best to keep employees happy, rested, and well-compensated.
You can sell a job just like any other product,and boost your public image at the same time.
>>37087539
Well when you get beyond your prime, about to turn 30, get less sleep, work more hours, your SARM or test won't give you the boost that this will. Cardarine was made to prevent and fight obesity. Also provide your body with more energy from your food to go beyond your previous rep.
baka desu senpai
>>37083745
Nah
Smh Tbh Senpai
I'm kind of doubtful this happens desu. I think kinobody and Jeff seid are successful enough to not need to come shill on this weaboo Nike sb forum, they're just obviously successful and big idols in the fitness community so they're bound to be talked about, but oh lord the second you bring them up it's "muh shill joff pls go", like some people actually take that meme seriously and think he's here. He's not you fucktards, it's a meme. You really think a rich Chad with a nearly perfect body is gonna spend his time here or be able to relate w us even? Fuck no, he's fucking bitches, making money, focusing on business, partying, networking, etc.
I need to get off 4chan Jesus fuck
>>37087646
Joff doesn't really sell anything. But greg is a massive cunt and isn't really that big. He sells overpriced shit, so he needs every channel to boost his sales.
>>37087646
You can't change your character, my man.
>>37087095
You guys can't google for shit can ya.
>>37086202
>says the jew
>>37087584
god damn it, you sold me on this.
I'm gonna have to give it a try at some point in the future now. I'm 18 right now and I dont think I need anything besides my pwo. I also dont have the cash right now.
I think I might have just been a victim of some serious shilling right now but fuck it.
>>37087692
>>37087584
>tfw 25
am i done with my prime? just recently started lifting
>>37087674
That's why you exist, stfu and post more. Do it for booty loving Jesus.
>>37087674
Looks like it. I get no relevant results, just different sets of random pics.
>>37087703
Nooooo you're in your prime. You don't need it. You need weed.
>>37087703
nah, I think after 30 is when your'e out of your prime like he said.
>>37087084
You never actually see face
She's just kinda average with nice angles and poses
>>37087749
Looks way above average so far
>>37087674
jesus
just post it man
>>37087722
no thanks
>>37087729
so just 5 more years?
well...shit
>>37087749
Is she german by any chance?
>>37085557
Not just money, sometimes it's useful for hitting goals which you wont get through normal food. Which is what I have to do today.
Also time constraints.
Find her. http://junnnktank.com/femmeperdue/ she is an anonymous nude photographer, dat ass.
>>37087794
>http://junnnktank.com/femmeperdue/
LITERALLY 10/10
>>37087709
Booty Jesus should learn to say "please"
http://im9.eu/album/femme-perdue/full-images
>>37087814
>http://im9.eu/album/femme-perdue/full-images
>armpit hair
DROPPED
Kodiak Cakes did a few days back, but other than that and Kinobody I don't see a lot
>>37087844
Grow the fuck up, Timmy
>>37083540
Steroid sellers are shilling a lot here.
>That guy is definitely on roids
>That is not possible natty
etc.
>>37087674
pls someone tell me who this woman is. she's amazing
i would like to be her slave and send her weekly tributes
>>37084655
no vegans making points which you cannot refute so you resort to calling it shilling.
A BORARD BASED ON HEALTH AND FITNESS WILL OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT AVOIDING UNETHICAL FOODS WHICH CLEARLY ARE LINKED TO CV DISEASE ;)
>>37085413
>shills
>do it for free
you have no idea what a shill is
>>37086898
>human sports
rich?..is that you
>>37087844
where the fuck can you see armpit hair in any of these pics?
Optimum Nutrition shills here from time to time
>>37088935
>UNETHICAL FOODS
Your precious vegan crap is certainly grown using slaughter house products as fertilizer. Yes, even "organic" stuff.
>>37089097
so how does that now justify you slicing animals throats open when there is no need to do so?
vegan crap like plant food is needed for human health, therefore justification is there, athough farming practices do need to improve
do you even basic ethics?
>>37089178
>when there is no need to do so?
Clearly there is.
Also, I find your arrogance repulsive.
>>37089213
but there isnt, for most people. Unless you are in a tribe
No arrogance, just stating facts. Even if i was arrogant and you didnt like it (reflection on you not me) then how does that justify you killing animals when alt are easily available?
>>37089232
There is. Animals eat other animals. That is the natural order of things. There is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
And stop dodging the fact that you're not even eating animals, you're just using their corpses to fertilize your "ethical" crops.
>>37089254
appeal to nature fallacy. Please dont base your ethics on other wild animals who NEED to eat corpses
I didnt dodge it, i responded to that above.
>>37089254
a lion eating an animal does not justify you killing animals the same way as a lion raping a female lion does not justify you raping a female human.
Im so sick of hearing
LIONS DOE from fully grown adults.
>>37089391
It's not a fallacy. It's a fact. There's that arrogance we talked about.
>>37089406
No, it doesn't justify anything. My need to eat justifies my killing of my food just fine on its own.
>>37089406
Vegans. They'll literally compare eating meat to rape. Tranny tier mentally ill, almost.
>>37083540
>How to tell if your cat is plotting to kill you
She's a qt pi.
>>37089406
I'm sick of hearing adults being little bitchy crybabies about the reality of the world.
Pretty and cute animals die so that others can live. Deal with it.
>>37084655
I actually haven't seen much vegans on this board, to be frank.
>>37083540
There was crossfit kettlebell shilling for Dan the other day. There's youtube shilling.
ON
Fatgripz
Soylent
>>37089474
doesnt justify you killing animals when there is no need to do so.
>>37089441
if you actually read you will see i used an example of why you should not base behaviour on what wild animals do. You are obviously american to be so thick.
also animals are raped in these industries.
>>37089417
you have no need to eat animals
>>37089441
No, they compare dairy to rape because they inseminate the cow you fucking idiot
>>37089411
You appealed to nature because you think it supports your point, that is an appeal to nature fallacy. I also explained why it is a fallacy. But go ahead ignore facts because your ego wont let you admit you are wrong, then project that arrogance onto others.
>>37089042
this fucking thread is shilling the buffdudes, have seen this exact same post several other times
>>37089474
> im a man and alfa bcus i kill and cause suffering without justificatioon
if you are against this then you are a crybaby hahahaha i actually have nothing to sY SO IM GNA PRETEND TO BE A MAN
none of what you said refutes the post you was responding to.
>>37085824
See, that's not "shilling" though. That's just some retard that is happy with his lifestyle and can't shut up about it.
Shilling would be is if he mentioned how he lost 50 lbs in 3 months on keto but neglected to say what it is, how to do it, and so on, and then included a link to a book/blog.
>>37089615
I'm going to go murder a deer because of your post. If I find a baby and mother I'm killing both.
I hope you're happy.
>>37084566
0/10 troll 11/10 retard
>>37089634
Literally no one cares, whiny baby.
>Wahhh I can't comprehend that people make different choices than me wahhhh poor animals
Lmfao at your pathetic life
>>37089786
>>37089705
>i have no valid argument the posts
The vegan mafia pays me 2¢ every time a v3g4ngains or nutriti0nf4cts video gets a monetized view
I told them I was sick of this life, they threatened to murder all of my beans
>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again
Pls kill me
>>37089786
>people should just accept me for being morally repugnant
>>37089615
Your continued use of items that need oil costs more lives then me fishing for dinner.
Unless you're going to go live in the forests in a handbuilt hut and grow your own food, you are not actually doing anything except trading one costly destructive animal killing thing for another costly destructive animal killing thing.
>>37090044
>eating animals, literally fulfilling life's cycle
>morally repugnant
kek
>>37090161
not true and even if it was then this does not justify you slicing animal throats for no justifiable reason.
1 wrong doing does not justify another, this argument is a fallacy.
>>37090191
>not thinking murder is wrong
>murderer is just literally fulfilling life's cycle
r-right guise?
>>37090254
Murder does not apply in the same way between humans and animals. If you think murder applies exactly the same for a fellow human than a random animal, I'm sorry to hear that.
Even then, murder is everywhere in nature, I'm sorry this bothers you.
>>37090283
so why is it not justfied to kill a human for trivial reasons but it is justfied to kill non humans for trivial reasons.
Use your words rather than saying hurr durr humans are different
>>37090245
Actually it does. I need fish to live.
You do not need even half of the things that use crude oil, nor do you need your computer. You don't even need the clothes that you are wearing that uses oil byproducts.
I reiterate. A person who has a farm in the middle of nowhere and rings a chickens neck and fishes for dinner costs fewer lives, and is even helping life, then you a person who only eats veg.
>>37090319
Because they're our species
You're supposed to take care of your own since they take care of you
>>37090319
Because we're different you fucking retard. It's your own species. It's not the same if you run over some random animal than a fellow human.
It boggles my mind that this has to be explained to some adults.
I have so much disgust for people like you. Putting a squirrel's life on the same level as your mother's.
Do you break down, cry, and feel sick for weeks if you accidentally crush a bug, you hypocrite?
>>37090378
you do not need fish to live
i do need my computer for work. For you to argue that i should go and be a hermit is dumb
You are not justifying killing animals you are just red herring me so we can argue about other factors, such as hurr durr you drive a car you dont need a car.
>>37090387
>>37090389
where did i put a squirrels life on the same level you inbred cunt? CAN YOU FUCKING READ, WHERE THE FUCK DID I EVEN SAY THAT?
Humans have more moral value but how the fuck does that justify killing animals
its basic ethics for fucks sake, and im have to explain basic ethics to adults.
Me accidentally stepping on a bug does not justify me killing animals for a burger.
>>37090387
so how does that mean its justified to kill animals for trivial reasons?
![633[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/d2vBntq.gif "633[1].gif")
>>37090378
>inform all my vegetarian/vegan friends about the farming process and how much it affects wild life
>pest control, pesticides, overall polution for added effect
>they obviously have no idea how any of this works and they legitimaly, unironically believe that no life form dies from their lifestyle in any way, shape or form
>mfw I see how they slowly conect dots and realize they basically cause the same thing they abhor
>>37090462
>thinking the fact that pesticides and animal deaths occur harvesting food essential for health that this justifies systematically and deliberately killing animals in the billions when there is no need to do so
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
![products-made-from-cattle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ru5JXCB.jpg "products-made-from-cattle[1].jpg")
>>37090434
>all this butthurt
>Me accidentally stepping on a bug does not justify me killing animals for a burger.
But killing them in the process of farming so you can't delude yourself into thinking you don't cause the death of other life forms because you don't directly eat them and as a result act morally superior is, right?
Btw, we have become so efficient at using the animals whole whenever we kill them to eat, that we make a lot of shit from them.
I take it that you don't use literally a single thing from pic related, right?
>>37090462
i bet you literally did that retarded laugh after ay, because your reasoning here is retarded
>>37090460
Eating isn't trivial
>>37090434
So what's your thoughts on owning pets?
i.e Do you think it is ethical to own and mutilate (neuter) a dog for your own satisfaction?
If you're against animals being someones property then that's fair.
>>37090480
>killing an animal and eating it, while making use it whole as best as efficiently possible (>>37090489) is not justified because feels
>killing them as collateral for this other activity that provides food while discarding all the murdered animals as trash (you can call them pests so you don't feel as bad about it) is justified
>>37090493
Let me guess, you identified with the person that's being mocked in the green text, right?
I would invite you to my farm so you can hang out with the hunters that are hired to take out all kinds of vermin. You would love it.
>>37090489
1. what does that picture prove?
>cant stop all suffering so dont bother doing anything
2. I never ever fucking said i think i dont cause the death of other life forms. Yet again a retarded corpse muncher making things up.
I know animals doe to make veg, this is an argument on farming practice not the ethics of eating carrots. This fact does not justify slicing a cows throat for a burger when alt are easily available.
3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
plenty of vegan options for these things anyway. Deffo will be in the future... the fact i drive a car does not justify me killing animals for a burger
>>37090513
>you actually think you are in a survival situation and have no other options than to eat animals
>>37090489
i dont pay people to kill animals for a burger, you do. Sorry but that does make me more ethical
>>37090520
no its not justfied because you need to justify causing harm and killing sentient beings you fucking moron...but go ahead keep using "feels" and thinking that nullifys this obvious point.
Yes it is justified as we need to eat plants. No i wont call them pests, im not a mental weakling like you.
Why does that fact justify killing animals for a burger?
>>37090520
>my farm
>thread about shilling
literal anti vegan shill, you profit of the death of animals
THIS IS THE ONLY VIDEO NEEDED TO REFUTE CORPSE MUNCHERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
/THREAD
>>37090518
Can you answer this >>37090518 plz
Genuinely curious?
>>37090607 meant for >>37090564
>>37090518
im not against owning dogs and cats at all, especially dogs, we have a very special bond with them. I love dogs.
>>37090524
>1. what does that picture prove?
We use the animals we kill in the meat industry to their fullest. Can't really think of a way of killing to survive being more justified than that.
You, on the other hand? The animals that are killed for your food are discarded.
'cant stop all suffering so dont bother doing anything' indeed.
> retarded corpse muncher
LOL! Is that supposed to make me feel bad or insulted? If that's the case, I eat the animal that I kill.
You kill animals, yet don't eat them. Yeah, I'd rather be a 'corpse muncher'.
>plenty of vegan options for these things anyway. Deffo will be in the future... the fact i drive a car does not justify me killing animals for a burger
If you use a single one of those in the list, you support the meat industry.
>>you actually think you are in a survival situation and have no other options than to eat animals
You don't seem to understand. There's no way to eat something that didn't cause the death of animals. Why is it that hard to understand?
>i dont pay people to kill animals for a burger, you do. Sorry but that does make me more ethical
You pay people to harvest your food. Those people are forced to kill animals so they actually have something to harvest in the first place. There's no difference. Actually there is, you get to delude yourself into thinking that your way of life doesn't cause death.
>Yes it is justified as we need to eat plants
Do we? You can survive on meat alone if you want. Why is your option more morally superior than meat, if both have to kill to produce?
>literal anti vegan shill, you profit of the death of animals
You people are hilarious.
I don't understand if you're clinically retarded, but crops are situated in farms. You animal cucks are making my family rich with your fad.
And do believe me, we kill A LOT of animals. You are so high up your morally superior mountain, that you will never accept it. We kill a fuckload of animals so that you get your veggies.
>>37090637
Isn't that a bit contradictory though? What role would a pet have other than personal selfish gain?
Other than that cats for one are incredibly hard to feed vegan foods, so feeding them would still involve you contributing to the death of animals.
Then there is neutering, how is deciding whether an animal has it's balls or not ethical?
FYI, I'm not trying to nitpick I'm just genuinely curious. Please don't get mad.
>>37083745
If it wasn't for the stack of medicore books
>>37090638
1. you are not killing to survive. Using a corpse doe not justify killing
2. No its just saying you eat corpses... fuck me, you are thick
3. Again, its unrealitic for me to not use a fucking tyre, that in no way refutes the question i have asked numerous times. Justify killing animals when there is no need to do so, when alternative food is avail...but ofc you will keep changing the subject and using fallacys like hypocrisy.
3. iT ISNT AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT FFS ... literal fucking retard, im saying it is not justified to kill animals to eat them or for any other trivial reasons. Its really not a hard concept.
4. Ive never ever said it does not, at this point is clear you have trouble reading or holding information, JUST BECAUSE ANIMALS ARE KILLED TO HARVEST FOOD THAT IS NEEDED FOR HUMANS DOES NOT JUSTIFY KILLING ANIMALS/OTHER ANIMALS.
yes you need plants to be healthy, you can live off just meat but you will lack so much, i cant believe a person on a fitness board does not know this
Fucking hell how many times do you wanna say things that ive never said, i know veggie harvest causes death, ffs you are so fucking stupid. Thats probably why you are a farmer.
Nothing you wrote justifies killing animals for food when alt are easily available.
>>37090679
no role, the same way i dont have a gf for a role. We enjoy eachothers company.
So just let your cat get its own food, they dont need humans.
Not sure where i stand on neutering desu, and i know you aren't mate
The thing is: shilling shouldn't be a problem because you shouldn't be buying anything that isn't real foods in a grocery store OR roids because it's the only thing that actually works.
>inb4 muh lifting shoes/straps/wraps/whatever
you odn't need any of that shit to look good
>inb4 >lifting to look good
kys
>mfw i see DYEL faggots with 300+$ worth of gear at the gym
>>37090714
i made typos cus of how mad you got me you twat
>>37089057
It also happens to be the best tasting whey, so maybe, just maybe, people here endorse it without compensation from the ON people.
But, what do I know. Doctors hate me, and I found 1 quick trick for getting hot girls and ripped and a huge dick and a yacht in a fucking Caribbean.
>>37086313
>proving my point
>>37090714
>Nothing you wrote justifies killing animals for food when alt are easily available.
>killing animals for food when alt are easily available.
>when alt are easily available.
Those easily available alternatives kill animals too. Like I said like 10 times already.
There's no alternative, in our world or reality, that isn't possible by NOT killing animals.
I know you fucks are mentally ill, but damn.
>Thats probably why you are a farmer.
It makes my day better and my dick rock hard how butthurt and triggered you are. Even better if I managed to make you cry.
Whatever, just don't stop buying what I'm selling, you'll help me retire before I'm 30. THANK YOU BRO.
>>37090730
>no role, the same way i dont have a gf for a role. We enjoy eachothers company
But your gf can leave you whenever she wants, your pet cannot. Do you think if a dog had the intellectual capacity of a human it would want to be owned?
>So just let your cat get its own food, they dont need humans.
It's still a similar situation to other pets, they only exist to fulfill a role of being owned. Although a cat can fuck off whenever it pleases.
>Not sure where i stand on neutering desu
That's fair
I think people should critic their own beliefs and much as anyone else's.
>>37090714
You realize that farmers clear cut trees to establish farms and kill animals to protect their crops right? Being vegan isn't morally right when your lifestyle still depends upon the destruction of the environment and death of animals
>>37088947
>an accomplice of a hawker, gambler, or swindler who acts as an enthusiastic customer to entice or encourage others.
Sounds like a vegan poster to me. Nowhere do I see that they need to be paid to count.
>>37090773
you are fucking thick
ive acknowledged that they do but that does NOT justify slicing animals throats for a burger.
>hurr durr your mentally ill even tho im saying i can slice animals throats because animals are killed during veggie harvest
This is like me saying, i can kill humans because cars contribute to human death so therefore its justified.
Yeah all the farmers here are poor as fuck, so whatever obvious lie
and im not triggered, none of what you wrote justfies farming animals to eat them
>>37090818
>slicing animals throats for a burger is BAD
>sniping them, gassing them, poisoning them, crushing them, etc for my plants is A OKAY though
>Yeah all the farmers here are poor as fuck
Why would I give a fuck if you're from some shithole?
>>37090776
my dog loves me and does not want to leave though, and i wouldnt say i OWN my dog, any more than i own my loved ones
>>37090777
So how does that justify farming animals? all of our lifestyle depends upon the death of other things, that does not mean it justified to do anything you want.
>>37090852
yes it is because we NEED plant food (justification). How can you not understand such a basic concept?
>>37090591
good to see nobody has watched this, all to beta to actually see the fact you are wrong
>id rather be ignorant than admit im wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
>>37090863
We don't. We don't die if we don't eat plant food.
>>37090852
mate your point has been refuted numerous times now just stop, you are making us look bad.
>>37090886
plant food is needed for human health.
>we should just eat bread because we dont NEED anything else to survive
is that next up?
Your argument is weak, plant food is needed for human health, corpses are not. End of conversation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueqDkY3aNAY
>>37090912
Do you die if you don't eat plant food?
No.
Did you just move the goalposts?
Yes.
>>37090893
>making us look bad
>us
>I don't know what the fuck to respond to that, what can I do? Oh, I know lol!
Pathetic.
>>37090853
>my dog loves me and does not want to leave though, and i wouldnt say i OWN my dog, any more than i own my loved ones
I would say you own it, you decide when it eats, what it eats, where it shits, what time you take it for a walk, whether or not it has balls, etc. It lives to fill a personal role in a humans life, how is that not ownership?
As to the love, I've no doubt it loves you, dogs are social animals they hunt/live in packs in the wild; wouldn't the ethically correct position be to not interfere with how they are in nature?
I'm not asking you to kick you dog out, desu I couldn't careless how you live you life but I think veganism and pets aren't really compatible.
>>37090948
>im gonna deny plant food is not needed for human health because you can survive on 2 apples a day
Your point about animals getting killed during other harvesting practices has been dismantled at least 5 times now. 1 more time...It in no way justifies farming animals and the argument itself is a logical fallacy. Not that you even understand what a fallacy is, or what type of fallacy it is.
>>37090400
I am justified in killing animals because I need food to live.
You are not justified in claiming that eating animals is immoral while using and owning most of the things you have that directly and indirectly cause the death and pollution of the very animals you say I shouldn't eat in the first place.
You are a hypocrite and a jerk.
>>37090972
i dont do any of those things but nice assumption
so now you have got to a point where you are denying the obvious love that are between some dogs and humans..because wolves hunt in packs???
Me looking after an animal which i have a loving relationship with is compatible with me not eating animals
>>37091007
>>37091007
you do not need to eat animals to live so your point is invalid
Eating animals is immoral, because you are directly killing it for no justified reason. Me living in 2016 and driving an ambulance does not justify me slicing an animals throat for a burger
also last time im responding to you
just take 1 min to read this, it isnt long.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
>>37089889
That was my first post in the thread. You're just that annoying that it made me want to murder a deer for spite
>>37091007
>if you use technology then you are a hypocrite it you dont kill animals
>if you use technology then you are a hypocrite if you dont support slavery
both are used for things in your everyday life, so get off your moral high-rise if you are against slavery
>>37091059
>i have nothing to say so im gonna call you annoying and make immature threats of killing a deer
>>37091079
And eating meat is an everyday thing in life. We need food more than we need computers
>>37091007
>you are not justified in claiming that child labour is immoral while using most of the things you have the directly and indirectly fund these things
can you now see how stupid you have been sounding for the past hour?
>>37091100
so you directly fund animal death and slave labour by eating meat, not indirectly, but directly.
>>37091015
>i dont do any of those things but nice assumption
So you let your dog shit in the house? You don't use a leash when you walk it? You don't choose what it eats or when? etc
Come on, you dictate what it does; don't kid yourself.
>so now you have got to a point where you are denying the obvious love that are between some dogs and humans..because wolves hunt in packs???
Where am I denying the "love". So let me ask you this then, is it ethical to snatch a puppy from it's mother or pack just for the sack of companionship?
>>37091141
my dog goes outside to shit, i dont use a leash, yeah i choose what it eats, but how is that bad? I will choose what my future child will eat as well...
yes it is.
>>37091132
Yes.
You directly fund human slavery and child labor by using computers?
>>37091093
I have lots to say. Isdue is I don't want to jump into a retarded argument. Unlike you vegan pussies, I actually do things.
Also
>threat
No. This is what you vegan faggots caused by shilling on a "call out shills" thread. I resized this in tinypic purely so I could show evidence which is unlike anything a vegan could do
>>37091155
>I will choose what my future child will eat as well...
You do up to a point as would a puppy in the wild, however once a child becomes an young adult it has the freedom to choose how and what it does in it's life. A domesticated dogs does not.
>yes it is.
Seriously you think taking a child from a mother for your own personal plaything is ethical?
At the end of the day your assumption on whether or not is happy is relative to your perspective. Dogs in the wild do not seek human ownership, pets on the other hand know no different. How is that fair?
>>37091051
So, what do you, living in 2016 and driving an ambulance, eat that justifies the death of animals?
Who the fuck do you think forces that 4 scoops shit? It's Rich Piana advertising his real food products I tell you who. Fucking mutant shitposting here day after day
>>37083745
Somebody should Photoshop the books to more acceptable titles. Any suggestions brehs?
>>37083920
Now now, nobody singled out Alice. I think the hate is more directed at the fact that most of the books are either predictable classics (Lolita, 1984) or recent critical darlings (Kite Runner, Pi). It comes across as contrived and pretentious - somebody deliberately chose that selection with the aim of impressing easily impressed litfag wannabes and its painfully obvious. That feminist book is the icing on the rage cake.
>>37091485
Infinite Jest
>>37083804
that guy bought banner ad space for a few months so it's not really shilling if he's being openly paying for the ad space.
>>37084540
You'd be very surprised to learn how much actually goes on. /v/ has had some pretty infamous instances like The Old Republic.
>>37085676
>Youtube channel shilling, on the other hand, is absolutely rampant.
This x100000000
Scooby is hands down the most obvious, those buff guys or whatever were pretty bad. The vegan alien looking guy is pretty bad too.
Scooby has made tens of thousands of dollars in youtube money just from the gullible morons he managed to get from here
>>37091551
omfg yassss I was thinking this the entire time.
>>37091263
nice. I'm going to try for a moose next year but if it doesn't work out i'll just take my buck+supplemental does
>>37091107
I don't understand. You are stating that me eating a fish is bad because I'm killing an animal and that is somehow equal to me condoning child slavery.
And you are also indirectly condoning child slavery.
Is..is that what you're saying?
>>37086437
>Meant ON whey obviously
who is the shill now
but really a meme =/= a shill
>>37091743
Never bagged a moose myself but my buddy did. Really good ground meat and steaks. I need to just carry a gun around just in case I think.
Deer is basically jerky, sausage and backstraps. Still good but no moose
