give me evidence that porn and jacking off is bad for you. I don't believe it. I've jacked off 1-3 times a day, to porn, since I hit puberty and i still
>can get hard around regular girls
>don't have insane expectations of girls to do porno shit
>don't have erectile dysfunction (except for this one time a girl's pussy was so smelly I couldn't get hard)
>can have normal conversations with girls
what the fuck is the point?
>>37064020
There is no point. It's a meme.
>>37064020
You're the exception, not the rule.
>>37064020
It's a stupid meme that guys with low/no test think will fix their fucked up lives
>>37064020
It's like starving dogs to make them more aggressive. People realize their sex life isn't satisfactory so they grow the balls to move on. Or to lurk the night clubs for easy sloots. It's mildly physiological but mostly just mentality. Worth it if you fap all day erry day because your a sad cunt, like binge eating.
>>37064020
I'm on no-porn because I started watching weird porn, the kinda porn that wouldn’t just be embarrassing if found out
>>37064114
>It's like starving dogs to make them more aggressive.
Exactly
It'll just make you want to go out and get the puss, because you crave it more than ever.
>>37064174
I'm wondering how many are looking for that kinda shit just because the usual just doesn't cut it
>>37064020
I notice that generally I'm more productive. ADHD here. Basically, I never actually do no fap, but just paying attention to trends, often I'll just not bare for a couple weeks and not notice, then suddenly I'll get more productive and wonder why. I'll realize I'm bate free and just be like, Oh, that could be why.
Generally if I bate once during a really productive week, I can maintain productivity, but after twice I start to dip back into mindless procrastination and generally being shitty.
Never had any ED though. Sex is definitely better if it's been awhile cause I'm more into it.
>>37064241
hmm interesting. I'm struggling with ADHD right now and I refuse to go back on medication. Maybe I'll try it out for that, but I notice about 6 days in my balls hurt like a motherfucker. Should I just jerk off once a week?
>>37064114
>>37064204
So it's for sexually frustrated retards to turn into full on rapists, got it.
>>37064020
time is a big one in my experience
if you do nofap and noporn, you gain more time than just the time you actually spend fapping. looking at threads to save pictures, thinking of times to do it, going to your room/bathroom for privacy just to fap, etc.
for me it did definitely help with ED, but I understand that not everyone gets ED from porn, so nbd if that wont affect you
you'll notice that it feels like you have 2-3 more hours in a day. you'll sit around and not know what the fuck to do, because you'd usually be fapping. helps with being more productive, going to gym, cooking, reading, games, friends, anything really. of course it's not some amazing cure to your entire life, but I found it to be a good help when it comes to good habits n shit
I initially tried it because everybody who's against nofap is generally pretty defensive and insane, like when a vegan tries to explain to you why you're a bad person. it just makes me think fuck dude, calm down. if these people are confident that fapping isn't bad for them, they wouldn't go around yelling at everyone saying it's a meme. they'd just be ok with it, I think. I don't know I could be wrong fuck me
>>37064336
If you're horny then beat off or have sex.
Just don't fap out of boredom or lack of anything better to do.
>>37064070
Basically this
FAs think that nofap will transform them into James-Bond-type suave alpha fuckers
>>37064020
I jerk off up to 11 times a day and watch porn practically the entire day. I'm trying to break my addiction.
>>37064204
>It'll just make you want to go out and get the puss, because you crave it more than ever.
But I want pussy after I wank anyway, wanting it more won't really change anything. Nofap will just make sexual frustration worse.
Idk. But I havent fapped in 4 days and I had a dream last night I peeled the panties off this bitch and fucked her doggystyle.
Fapping is cool, just avoid fapping to porn, because you might start turning yourself into a voyeur dude, only obtaining boners when you see a dude fucking a woman, and not women themselves.
>>37064540
You are a slave to your sexual frustration because you fap bitch. If you do Nofal theres a chance to dominate that part of your energy. Some get it, some are too far gone. Doomed to stay pigs dribbling cum and looking with lustful eyes at the prize around them..
Fuck it tho, do what you want.
>jack-off: don't want to pursue relationships
>don't jack-off: still don't want to pursue relationships
It's pretty cool.
>>37064525
>>37064336
Psych fag here. I've just started no fap and personally i think its indicative of a comorbid depression with either adhd or just in general. ADHD is an extremely impulsive "disorder" that looks for an instant hit of dopamine. This is because the neurotransmitterss in the brain leak dopamine (im paraphrasing so its easier to understand before some ruler and pencil anon white knights his way into the conversation) so there is LESS general dopamine hitting when its supposed to. This is why people with adhd have trouble with literally anything you can get addicted to. gambling = dopamine food = dopamine weed = dopamine etc etc.
tldr If you're fapping a lot its probs cause you arent happy (physical lack of dopamine) and maybe mentally too as a form of stress relief (obvs stressful having adhd)
>>37064666
forgot to mention the power of ASSOCIATION. you associate these lifestyle habits as problematic so when you stop it has a relieving affect. This is why more autistic/psychopathic spectrum anons rail in and go hurr durr i fap 20 times a day and it doesnt matter. Because they don't have the inner turmoil of emotions associated with adhd spectrum disorders. So yes it does work for some. No it doesnt matter to others. My life has gotten significantly better since i stopped but its also from lifting and changing my whole life-style. Association is key.
>>37064448
I agree with this, in my experience on my longest noporn nofap streak (only 39 days) the extra time you gain and the satisfation of achieving something hard was the main benefit. Also felt like i had more energy in the gym.
If you've got it in your head that your porn and fap habits, frequency and content you fap to is shameful then abstinence can definitely lead to some sort of improvment, physical, mental or otherwise.
That's not to say there's anything wrong with fapping and porn though, the amount of cult/religious idiots i've had to argue with on r/nofap was frustrating. The fact is the vast majority of the population can fap and watch porn to their heart's content with 0 negatives. there's no evidence fapping directly causes any addiction or change in the brain or behaviour at all. Nofap is just a fun challenge to do.
Most people who feel the need to do it are depressed, anxious, feeling shameful etc and feel that a change is what they need as a catalist for further longterm change and improvement.
Will NoFap help my PE or just make it worse?
>>37064020
I have noticed that I have trouble lifting well if I have sex before I go to the gym. Just talking about the morning of, night before is fine. Had to explain it to the wife in detail. Still not sure if it is mental or physical, but there is some difference.
>>37064602
I only fap to women. Only solo or lesbian. Never guy and girl. Is that OK?
>>37064666
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2_Mn-qRKjA
>>37064448
Shit youre right i spend a good hour tryna find the right one before i can settle down
>>37064666
>>37064722
so how do I return to receiving normal amounts of dopamine like you mentioned? I literally cannot derive joy from anything unless it's something more extreme (impulsive traveling, unprotected sex, sex with multiple partners, taking steroids, drug abuse, etc.)
It helps with my acne
>>37064020
More like this pic plz
>>37064020
>what the fuck is the point?
there is none obviously. Its just the american le sex is bad propaganda leaking through.
>>37064020
it's a meme as old as time itself, making athletes abstain from sex for a day or two before an event.
>>37064020
most of the time when I have the guts to talk to grills I am either drunk as fuck or on drugs
unfortunately both kill boners so most of the time it results in making out heavily and 3 or 4 days of awkward texting
Every time I start nofap I notice increased confidence after about a week, and it feels completely natural, not like I'm talking myself up to feel confident or thinking about things that make me not confident.
After about 10 days I notice body hair starts getting 'swarthy'...arm on my arms and legs gets thicker, kinda more curly.
I've never gone more than 3 weeks though, and then I beat off and start beating off everyday once again and turn into a sack of shit.
The people say theres no point, or its a meme are the people who can't do it, and thus are addicted to beating off and are escapists or indulge fantasy so it affects their reality.
When those people say its stupid, this is just a comping mechanism to justify their addiction to beating off.
>>37066527
On the other hand, there's myriad papers and sources that prove it's completely pointless and the only research that says it works is full of circular references from evangelical pastors who claim to be psychologists but have no credentials.
>>37066527
you're mixing apples and boats
what you think of is porn vs reality
>>37066572
>>37066591
>addicted to masturbation
>>37064666
did you really need a degree to come to the conclusion that masturbating is done as a type of relief and distraction? you're fucking retarded then.
>nofap
Literally a meme. I can't believe people actually do it.
You could fap every day and there should be zero side effects.
>>37066621
Actually, if you read the OP, he references some common things that /nofap/ snake oil imbibers claim it helps; specifically he mentions no expectation of women to seem like porn, no difficulty in getting or maintaining erections with a woman, no difficulty talking to girls.
You, or else the original post to which I replied, said that people who fap let it "affect their reality". Unless you were talking about something other than the above effects, then OP is proof that you can fap and still function. Of course it's done as some sort of relief, and as for a distraction, that's a matter of perspective. Sex is also a form of relief, and potentially a distraction.
You're conflating masturbating habitually with a masturbation addiction. I don't deny that there's such a thing as masturbation addiction. But not everybody who masturbates habitually is addicted. Thinking that you cannot do things in moderation is dangerous, it's the sort of thinking alcoholics do. In short, you're ridiculous, and wrong, because you're projecting your own addiction on people who are able to masturbate without letting it control their lives.
>>37066624
>masturbation addict
>>37066694
coping masturabation addict
>>37065422
you gay or something faggot?
i cant stand when people pretend like sexual response isnt a highly conditioned thing. if you spend the majority of your time jacking off to images on the computer, of course it will effect how you normally interact with women.
even if not in a blatant way it will in some subtle subconcious way. your brain literally comes to expect that your orgasm will come from computer images of sex and not women.
you can choose when you are aroused. sexual response is highly suggestible but people somehow act like there is no way to go back from their fetish. if you stopped jacking off to it you might realize without the orgasm associated with your tranny/scat/anal vore/gay fetish is actually not even a real thing.
they just teach people that there should be no sexual discipline and then wonder why all these deviate behaviors pop up? the less you are fixated on sex the less you will overall care and your brain will come down to earth and see things the way they were meant to be. instead they have everyone fixate on it like babies and dont know why they act the way they do.
>>37064020
It's a meme pushed by Christian fundamentalists. Yes, it's retarded.
>>37066867
Or people have brains and realize that porn and real women are two different things lmao
>tfw starting to fap to pictures of girls' faces or regularly clothed girls
Heading down a dangerous path
>>37064039
this
>>37064020
It's just placebo bullshit.
I didn't start taking nofap seriously until I started to think about the overwhelming malice, venom, and downright anger on display in so many of these "nofap is a meme" posts.
The kind of rage and disdain that people post about nofap with is not the posture of healthy skepticism. It positively oozes with insecurity and neurosis. It's just downright strange for people to feel such a need to justify stroking their own cocks to other people on the internet. This isn't behavior that goes along with a healthy habit. This is behavior that brings back memories of convincing people that they need to go to rehab.
It's just strange. Common sense dictates that it SHOULDN'T be a big deal, that it's just jacking off and watching porn and "everybody does it" so it really shouldn't be a problem. But all the signs in people's responses to this nofap trend check all the boxes and raise all the red flags for self-destructive and neurotic behavior, so now I have no idea what on Earth is actually going on here.
Lately I've been just telling myself I don't care about girls, and I'm starting to believe it. Haven't been with someone in 5 years and I don't think I'm capable of a normal relationship, so my end goal is to become asexual/autosexual. Then just hold out until virtual reality tech gets there.
Just do it for a week. Nothing to lose, and if it turns out that there really is no difference, you'll know for sure and be able to stop making these retarded threads. Personally, I feel a huge difference in confidence and social skills.
>Two weaks on no fap/porn
>acne begins to disappear
>more free time
>2/3 of the time wanting watch porn and fap
When I stop gapping I notice more confidence and energy, people even treat me better
Even when it's not me consciously trying to not fap
>>37067257
Can atest that it helps the acne. Not sure why the fuck it works tho because i still have sex and I'm ejaculating 1x/2x weekly.
>>37067121
Me too family, we're gonna make it
Is it ok if my girlfriend jerks me off?
or does that count as fapping
>>37067121
then why do you still have that picture saved?
>>37067469
having sex is still fine
>>37067471
Hey I still think girls are hot.
>>37067523
just seems pointless to tempt yourself if you're planning on being asexual or whatever
>>37067469
Nofap is really about quitting porn.
>>37067543
I'm not going to quit fapping, just not going to actively pursue or care about women.
>>37064020
Congratulations, you're a normal well-adjusted member of society.
>>37067583
Ah, good luck with that then
>>37064020
You can call me a bitch weak faggot pussy or whatever, but I legitimately don't feel like doing anything after I fap. I become content with sleeping/staying in bed all day. I would get nothing done and my energy levels become really low. After a bit I start to feel depressed and wonder about where my day went.
It's not a meme for me at least, it helped me alot.
>>37066990
I've never seen any overt rage about nofap, usually only casual dismissal. But either way, I think the response-angryness of the general internet populace against any kind of trend is more of an indicator of how popular/pushy the trend is perceived at, not an indicator for the subject matters merit or de-merit either way.
>>37064020
Nofap is silly, noporn is healthy for your mind.
>>37064020
>Why is everyone on no fap/no porn
not true. it's only reditors living their meme
>>37066624
This is false.
>>37068306
This.
>>37064020
http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/how-porn-is-messing-with-your-manhood/
Because science
I think the best way to do it fapping once or twice a week using either your imagination or some pics of high test sloots. The over stimulation of watching BLACKED videos fucks with your brain. You are literally transported to someone's house where a nigger is fucking a girl and you are sitting there waxing your carrot to it.
It is gay as fuck and you are officially KEKED
>>37064039
>>37064070
>>37064114
>>37066161
>>37066185
>>37066624
>>37066888
>>37066967
>>37066990
>>37068393
Here's a summation written by researchers linking to a bunch of recent studies on the sensitization, depression and overall negative psychological effects of porn viewing.
>>37069263
http://www.skeptic.com/reading_room/how-porn-is-messing-with-your-manhood/
It's not a meme.
Overstimulating your brain with sexual simulations negatively effects your ability to process, appreciate and be aroused by real world sexual attraction and activity.
I would have expected that people ostensibly onboard with moderation in nutrition, exercise and health would understand the dangers of excess in any form especially things involving sexuality and brain function.
>>37069354
thank you for this
>>37069390
I lift while looking at high test women on instagram, now I feel that if Im not watching a high test woman I cant lift with the same strenght
It's fucking hard to quit porn when you have no life. I work and lift, but I still have too much time on my hands. What do other no-lifers do with all that free time you'd usually use to fap?
>>37069390
This has worked to my advantage at times but I will admit that sometimes watching pr0n has made me question why I don't have a hotter girlfriend
The plus is that I can fuck her for eternity with blowing my load if I've been watching porn a lot recently
if I don't jackoff I feel sluggish all fucking day. I jack off usually an hour before the gym and it feels amazing.
>>37069411
No problem. Remember, no one is perfect so if you "relapse" just keep trucking.
I've done long bouts of no fap and eventually I find myself just surfing the web cheating and looking at pics of girls... huge time waster... also my cum literally turns yellow and my prostate aches... it doesn't seem healthy
Reducing your fapping and not using porn seems to be the best. Ever since no porn I've started having dreams where I actually interact with girls/ hook up with them. I swear that wasn't happening as frequently when I was watching porn.
Plus, you just feel a little mentally cleaner. There isn't some nasty dirty shit that you look at and hide from everyone else.
All in all the approach I outlined leaves you satisfied enough that you don't make a fool of yourself and marry a fatty just to get your rocks off, yet leaves you with a healthy sexual appetite and a cleaner psyche.
>>37064020
No point imo. If i dont fap everyday and i get laid i cant last very long. I take my daily wank and fuck like a beast for hours during sex. Also get erections even after 10 shots. It just starts to hurt.
>>37066990
Yeah, fucking 5 star post. Stay strong brah
>>37066990
>>37069390
These posts especially that link were very eye opening. I'm going for it. Just deleted 20 gigs of porn and well over 500 bookmarks and it felt like a huge weight was lifted. The weird sense of emotional loss makes me realize this shits unhealthy, I shouldn't have an emotional/sexual attachment to digital representations of sex.
I'm gonna make it.
>>37064020
It helps break porn addiction. But you need to not watch porn as well. Also it resets sort of, if you jack of a lot you get shits orgasms, but after a while off it it gets better.
>>37070255
We're making it together bud
also check'd
I've been fapping three times a day for the past week. Guess I'll make it like once a week, more fun and bigger loads.
>>37070255
>Read two posts on 4chan and one OP-ED article
>Suddenly moved to make a life changing decision.
Top kek
Porn is fine, you'll notice that pretty much all the studies cite "sex addiction" and generally refer to people who consume huge amounts of porn and masturbate near constantly. Obviously if you overdo it then it's gonna fuck with you, you can say that about everything really. There's no huge benefit to abstaining completley, same as there's no huge benefit to masturbating frequently. Just don't fixate on it and you'll be fine.
Saying that fapping is detrimental to your health is like saying cake is detrimental to your health, it's only really a problem in excess.
>>37070667
>this much denial
afraid to give up your precious porn stash?
You are literally beating off to someone fucking a woman in front of you. That is GAY AS FUCK anon.
>>37070595
Why do you care about the size of your loads when fapping?
>>37069390
>Overstimulating your brain with sexual simulations negatively effects your ability to process, appreciate and be aroused by real world sexual attraction and activity.
That last part would imply that you can get ED from watching too much porn. A few recent studies have shown that there is no such danger.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jsm.12853/abstract
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sm2.58/full
>>37070734
Because I like to shoot far. Also it gets the boi puss hot when you can cum a lot
>>37070747
>In Study 1, only the relationship between pornography use and ED among Croatian men was statistically significant (χ2[2]=18.76, P<0.01). The association was small and inconsistent. Compared with infrequent use of pornography, moderate but not high frequency of pornography use increased the odds of reporting ED (adjusted odds ratio=0.53, P<0.01). In Study 2, no significant associations both between either the frequency or the recent dynamics of pornography use and male sexual dysfunctions were observed.
>Croatians
>implying the risks to humans is relevant to experiments on slavs
You can show me a study showing porn doesn't effect mollusks and it all mean exactly the same to me
The thing no fap does is it builds tremendous willpower. Improved willpower improves your self esteem, helps you set boundaries, makes you have a better sense of self.
Think about it, you're setting a goal, that is really fucking hard, you're literally imposing your will over your genetic impulses, and when you achieve it of course you have better interactions with women and do better in life, you're building willpower, and a lot of the losers who get a lot out of no fap are losers because they have really poor impulse control & willpower.
You could get the benefits with no fap from anything though, cut out sugar, go to the gym, whatever. If you're a forever alone 20 something virgin you don't have the reference experiences and the self worth to lead a fulfilling life, if you did you wouldn't be a 20 something virgin. No fap is a way to build yourself back up so you can lead a fulfilling life, but if your life is already fulfilling, it's not going to do shit obviously.
On nofap for 10 days because in hostel. It's a meme
>>37064020
Fapping is pretty useless
Can we get some ages?
As a youngfag nofap didn't help. As an oldfag I'd have to say it has more benefits.
More anger = more training
More semen = more demon
When I get pussy on no fap I destroy it, if I've been fapping it's much less full on.
>>37069390
Sure, watching too much porn is going to mess you up sexually.
It's a meme when it comes to testosterone levels though.
>Go on nofap
>Feel real good for about a week
>Start losing sexual urges
>From then on I pretty much live without a sexuality
I don't think I'll be doing this a third time desu.
theres no healthy reason to look at porn and beat off
there are possible negatives of watching porn/beating off
there is no logic in defending the habit of beating off to porn, therefore, the only people who defend beating off to porn or attacking those that say beating off to porn is potentially unhealthy are addicted to porn and prove the point that porn is unhealthy
>>37073633
/thread
>>37064020
Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/chastity
See what people claim there
It's what people claim no fap gives you without putting your dick into a box
>>37064020
>>37064039
This. It#s a retarded meme. People want to feel like special snowflakes, too, that's all.
>>37069390
>Overstimulating your brain with sexual simulations negatively effects your ability to process, appreciate and be aroused by real world sexual attraction and activity.
So you don't cum immediately?
Sounds good.
>>37073735
sometimes i cum early but thats a compliment to the girl and never being a problem. because...
if i like the girl i can just cum for a second time and third and so on, and its very rare having only 1 condom.
>>37064020
>Why is everyone on no fap/no porn
because they're stupid and gullible.
honestly nofap does the opposite for me. I don't jack off and then I get hornier when I see hot girls in the gym, but then I remember I'm ugly af and can't do anything about. how to improve social skills?
>>37064020
I have porn/fap induced ed and need nofap to fix myself. Its not a meme bro, its very fucking real. You're one of the lucky ones or maybe your not as far gone as I am yet
>>37064020
I stopped watching porn because there's like a 99% chance that the girl in its is in worse shape than me/uglier. Even when you manage to find one that's not a whale, she's either coke whore rail thin with no ass or has a gut that juggles when he pounds her, fucking disgusting either way. I'm better porn than most of what's out there, so I find it useless for the most part.
>>37070255
>500 bookmarks
>tfw over 1000 bookmarks of solo girls, sorted in categories and marked timestamp of climax
getting rid of it. Will try abstain at least till August. 3 months ain't that long, might as well just to see its effects.
>>37070667
So what if he decides to improve after reading a couple of 4chan posts?
>life changing decisions
He's not deploying to Afghanistan jesus fuck.
I will never ever get people who are AGAINST NoFap, like, is this some kind of fetish to make sure others masturbate or what? "Hurr durr you guys should fap because it feels good, come on, jerk that asparagus and lemme see it, oh yeah just like that, good, and remember- nofap is bad for you because I said so."
>>37070667
shoo shoo gains goblin
>>37073981
lol i thought i was addicted because i always think about sex but holy shit i'm gonna make it senpai
>>37074007
gl brah. We'll gonna make it.
>>37064020
>>37067121
>>37067583
You were standing at the edge of a cliff, but you made a step forward.
>>37074025
we're*
I've read somewhere before that nofap doesn't increase testosterone but makes some kind of receptors more sensitive to the testosterone that you do have which is responsible for all of the positive effects that people say they get. Can someone who knows what they're talking about confirm/deny this.
>>37074071
yes
also ejaculating releases shitty hormones in men like estrogen and testosterone production from ejaculating gets taxed and burnt out if you are beating off a couple times a week
>>37069390
Gary Wilson is literally a USA Christian sexual repressed closet faggot who thinks porn made him gay and wants to protect America's fragile youth from the same fate.
No fap is a meme, no porn is actually useful if you're having ED issues. Fapping is the same thing as sex and nobody is against sex.
>>37064020
because these retarded assholes find ways to overcomplicate very basic things like lifting hard, eating healthy food, dating, having sex, and beating off, and showering
they can take simple tasks that literally anyone can do and turn them into fucking potato quest
>>37074226
Do you have any studies to show this? I think we need to set up a page of proofs so people like this guy >>37074345 stop dismissing it as a meme and actually look into it.
>>37074365
I'm pretty sure most of the problems people think they have from jacking off actually come from jacking off to porn. Either way I'm not addicted to either
>>37064020
For me, porn was always just too accessible and easy. I've got an addictive personality, and I can get hooked on anything that doesn't feel like crap. So with porn, I was always escalating, always looking for a new fetish, and never actually satisfied with real sex. I definitely feel that I lost a lot of my ability to actually connect with a romantic partner because I was always looking at girls as holes to fuck. Porn and real girls kinda merged mentally for me, and I burned a lot of bridges and got into trouble. Not saying that it wouldn't have happened without porn, but as with just about anything too easy I was always chasing that elusive bliss point. It's like eating fast food. You can't say "no fast food" because obviously a cheeseburger isn't going to kill anybody. But at some point you realize that you're downing 5 McDoubles and you feel like shit because you're always going for ecstasy instead of real substance. So no porn for me because I know myself. Maybe you're different and can regulate, but a lot of people can't.
>>37074314
Source
>>37074562
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive
Guys, hear me out please, I will be as clear as I can be, this is for your own good:
The problem is not masturbating. Not when you're horny, at least.
The true unhealthy behaviour is watching too much porn, which desensitize you and break your normal response to real life sex stimulus. And it usually comes together with another bad habit, which is masturbating out of boredom and not because you're very horny.
The lazy way out is by doing noporn+nofap, and this creates another problem: By doing no fap, you weaken your pelvic floor muscles, drastically decrease blood flow in your penis, get super sensitive to stimulus and decrease prostate health (by never ejaculating), which all results in less frequent erections, weak erections, smaller penis size and cumming in 1 second. You certainly don't want that, so avoid no fap. Completely drop this stupid idea right now.
What is the best way to improve this? Cut off porn and masturbate as often as you'd feel like doing it (by being horny, not by being bored), just using your imagination. Imagine that RL girl, imagine you going to bed with her, taking her clothes off, and so on, where YOU are participating in first person, not just watching like a weird voyeur.
So, if you seriously want to improve your sex life: quit porn, don't do nofap, boost your imagination, masturbate when horny.
Two more things that also help sex life a lot:
- Aerobic conditioning makes your dick better, seriously, do your cardio
- Get rid of your performance anxiety, actually BELIEVE that you can do it and everything is fine with yourself
I hope you guys take my advice, I genuinely want to help you feel better.
>>37074767
>What is the best way to improve this? Cut off porn and masturbate as often as you'd feel like doing it
The only meme worse than no fap is no porn. Fuck outta here you faggot
This page is filled with all sorts of shit, and THIS is what you strike down on? Personal lifestyle choices are just that, personal. Besides, If the threads created now aren't satisfactory, then why in the world don't you just make a thread which covers whatever pseudo- workout theories you need to discuss? Is thinking for yourself really this fucking difficult?
>>37074767
>- Get rid of your performance anxiety, actually BELIEVE that you can do it and everything is fine with yourself
how do i make myself believe that? i'm dating my first gf and we've tried to have sex multiple times and i can get hard while kissing but when it comes to PIV my dick just dies
>>37069390
man i just want to read some unbiased literature on the topic and not Gary fucking Wilson.
>>37074890
The times you failed are making you very uncomfortable for sure, all you need is one or two sucessful fucking sessions then it will be alright.
You don't have physical problems, that's for sure, as you get hard with stimulus, but anxiety is murdering your erections.
Dude, she is your gf, not a random girl. You like/love each other. Just get comfortable, ease into it. Completely FORGET your dick and getting an erection, get naked with her and shift your focus to enjoying each other. Talk, kiss, rub, and in no time you will be sticking your dick inside her.
>>37074890
>>37075263
Oh, I forgot to mention, it happened on my first time too. I was hard all the time, but when I got her naked it felt so unbeliavable that my dick didn't work.
We stayed naked in bed for quite long, and at some point when I hugged her from behind my dick went hard while caressing and kissing her. I'm not saying you should do the same, I'm saying "don't focus on getting hard, set your mind to enjoy the experience".
>>37064020
I'm doing it,day 22 and it feels gr8
>>37064020
Idk what these people are on about man. I started beatin my meat like 3 times a day last week and it just made me WAY hornier.
>>37067480
thanks doc good to know!
kys
>>37075312
>>37075263
thanks dude
>>37074044
>>37064020
Its not bad for you in itself, but can become a severe addiction that fucks you up. If you masturbate normally a few times a day to porn, thats normal. Yet it can still be an addictive behavior and you would benefit from stopping it.
In my case, for the past several years literally all the time I was at home was spent on the computer, and much of that involved fapping- resulting in like 4 hours of egging and cumming several times a day at my worst. What made me finally stop is that I had pain in the perenium muscles when ejaculating, and the area still feels swollen 3 weeks later, and uncomfortable when I get an erection. There is also a constant dull ticklish feeling by my bladder I can sense is related. I had prostate and urine checked, and am a virgin, so can assume its a muscle and nerve problem, most likely a result of the constant abuse of my sex drive for several years.
>>37064020
>>can get hard around regular girls
>>don't have insane expectations of girls to do porno shit
>>don't have erectile dysfunction (except for this one time a girl's pussy was so smelly I couldn't get hard)
>>can have normal conversations with girls
Same. It actually feels good that I can still look at porn and not even get hard now, but get a raging boner from seeing nice ass in real life.
>>37064020
I don't know about the "testosterone" gains, i think those are a meme.
However, I think not watching porn has a healthy effect on your mind. I stopped watching porn and masturbating little over a year ago and I seem to enjoy sex with my wife a lot more since then.
Yo first off, if porn messes up the way you view the world then you should also avoid drugs cause that shit will fuckin make all you weak fucks develop some form of psychotic disorder.
Everyone i know that has a normal job, family, goes on trips, enjoys going out and socializing, etc. still watch porn and jack off.
You guys are just virgins hoping for anything to help you get with some girl. But this isn't going to help you at all.
>>37075957
Who left Tyrones' cage open?
>>37075911
I beat off constantly and I still enjoy sex with your wife
>>37075979
Good comeback buddy, If you can guess where I live we could see if you're really the man you say you are, or that you're the insecure little shitposting virgin that has been such a dissapointment to his parents.
Anyways, enjoy your fapping, the next time you're gonna see any pussy is when they allow cats in your retirement home
>>37075977
My names Tyrone and I came here to fuck somebodies wife, long dick style
>>37075911
>However, I think not watching porn has a healthy effect on your mind. I stopped watching porn and masturbating little over a year ago and I seem to enjoy sex with my wife a lot more since then.
Might be so for you. Although married to a fantastic and very sexual woman I fap occasionally and I do this for two reasons. First of all I hate to wake up in the morning and feeling/seeing/smelling the remains of a nocturnal emission in my shorts. And second I do have a rather strong sex drive that is not satisfied by my wife and I do not want to cheat or fuck a prostitute – which is legal where I live – on a regular basis. Still enjoying sex with my wife.
A nigger said on national radio "I don't touch myself, we don't do that, it's a white thing"
So I stopped fapping
I'm not white nor black but that's insulting
Something hasn't sat well in my head since a few years back in regards to porn. Unless I'm viewing pure lesbian stuff, I'm sitting there watching another man have sex with a woman in front of me.
It just made me feel like I was some beta orbiting monkey in a tree, watching the alpha impregnate all the females.
Now I just jerk off once every week or two weeks when the mood really grabs me if I don't get laid in that time frame, but I don't watch porn. Feels so much better, something correct about it.
>>37076008
*disappointment
just from your spelling, I'm guessing subsidized housing with a ramp for her
>>37069862
i do the same thing but with regular porn. i can't lift for shit without watching it, not even anything extreme.
>>37071491
when I did nofap I ended up barebacking with a slampig and caught something, never again
>>37070715
I don't give a single fuck how gay my porn is, I'm bi. So it's, like, whatever turns me on, man.
I somewhere between a hundred and two hundred images, no IRL pics because I'm that kind of a degenerate, and I probably prune that every few months. Fuck, I could probably trim that down to ten if I really wanted to, since there are weeks where I'll go where I'll only really look at a few of them, but I like the idea of having variety and it's good for refrence if I feel like doing some anatomical drawing.. I also have some erotica tucked away that I'll refrence too if I feel like edging.
I masturbate maybe once a day, or maybe once every few days just so I don't have to think about sex because otherwise I have an obnoxiously high libido. That being said I'm probably more of a sex addict than the average person, but I don't really think I have a huge problem.
>>37076704
I did this too, i was first stopped with the porn because i was disgusted by it and myself obviously.
But now even fapping reguarly makes me feel bad too, because then i think
>im too much of a beta to get a girl to fuck me, so i need my dirty hand to do the job.
>>37074599
This faggot, in different article, challenges renowned psychologist Dr. Zimbardo (everyone knows Stanford prison experiment - that's Zimbardo's work). He's probably in denial himself, lol.
>>37064020
For me I'm on 'no porn' or occasional pron.
I kept marathoning my fap sessions so I would go for hours and keep edging/stopping and then finding a new video to watch.
It was just taking too much time up and I wasnt recovering after workouts as fast.
Now I just fap and get it over with to completion without edging.
I feel better overall.
>>37064020
> Just because something is a problem for me that means it isn't a problem for anyone else
No Fap/No Porn helped me tremendously.
Before No Fap:
> Weak erections
> Performance anxiety/ED
> No confidence to approach girls
> Lethargic all the time (fapping makes me sleepy, and I would fap during the day)
During No Fap
> Stronger erections
> INCREDIBLY intense orgasms
> Overcame anxiety
> Energetic all the time
After No Fap
> No longer use masturbation as a means of procrastination
> No longer use masturbation as a substitute for sex/way so indulge my (former) social anxiety
> No more performance anxiety
I'm not on No Fap anymore but I'm glad for the three months I took to do it.
>>37077728
>Incredibly intense orgasms
I can confirm this so much, it doesnt happen always but sometimes it feels better than sex itself.
>>37070884
>only no fapped 10 days
>hurr it's a meme 8-)
I am about to approach day 90 and I am finally starting to feel what this "meme" is all about. I had crippling social anxiety when fapping twice a day and I could not even keep eye contact with a girl for more than 2 seconds (not even my girlfriend at the time honestly dont even remember her eye color). I now can have a calm relaxed conversation with a stranger. I can actually feel my dick again, no more numb dick (probably the best benefit). I actually have 20 times more control when I have sex and full on diamond boners. I am a better listener and the freetime from not edging 2 hours a day is amazing. Anyone who denies nofap being non beneficial has never stopped jacking off for more than a week since puberty. You are fapping to porn on a daily basis and you are in complete denial. Try 3 months, it's rough, it takes willpower but it will improve your life. Take your hand off your dick and don't visit NSFW boards/sights, it's that simple.
I've been doing NO FAP quite regularly since I broke up with my ex. In the past (while in a relationship), the effects of No Fap were pretty powerful and my libido was through the roof. But the past couple times I have tried it since being single, I haven't even had an increase in my libido. My dick just feels weak and flaccid.
>>37077728
intense orgasms when having sex?
When I first got with my GF I had a bit of ED, by that I mean it took me a few minutes to get hard and that was embarrassing. I literally had to think of porn sometimes to make me erect and that was an obvious warning sign. Though past the 2 week mark I was able to get hard naturally because my perception of sex changed and I get hard whenever I get the "it's go time" signals.
Not only that but now when I fap I tend to think about the real world sexual encounters I had instead of looking at porn since it's easier to put myself in the shoes of something that I actually did.
It may just be me but the porn causing ED thing was only temporary and went away pretty quickly. By the 2nd week I got hard and came 4 times within 2.5 hours.
>>37077850
Yeah no shit. How else would he be coming during No Fap?
>>37064666
>Psych fag here. I've just started no fap and personally i think its indicative of a comorbid depression with either adhd or just in general. ADHD is an extremely impulsive "disorder" that looks for an instant hit of dopamine. This is because the neurotransmitterss in the brain leak dopamine (im paraphrasing so its easier to understand before some ruler and pencil anon white knights his way into the conversation) so there is LESS general dopamine hitting when its supposed to. This is why people with adhd have trouble with literally anything you can get addicted to. gambling = dopamine food = dopamine weed = dopamine etc etc.
>Psych major trying science
Doing it in moderate is okay. The problem is when people jack off to porn multiple times a day every single day. You become desensitized fairly quick, which is why many being to venture into specific fetishes. I have started to watch amateur porn because it's more realistic.
>>37078575
>psych major
>science
pick one
>>37070255
I understand having 20 gigs of porn, but, 500 bookmarks?! 500 different sites you use for porn. My god.
>>37067121
Why?
>>37064336
Give me your script nigga. I can't afford insurance after my parents died.
>>37064453
That's my whole problem
>>37078891
not that guy but it was probably just 500 videos, so probably like 5-10 sites.
>>37064357
Good job on totally missing the point you faggot. Maybe stop jerking off in your mums basement and eventually you'll develop the social skills to talk to women.
>>37073633
that's basically the end of it.
/thread
>>37069390
No one study covers everything. Low test betas are hardest effected by this.
For me and I think for everyone else that doesn't have a real porn addiction (like if ur jerking off 6 times a day you need to just STOP) I realized I just needed to stop watching certain porn.
I stopped watching cuckold porn, interracial porn which made me feel bad. I focus on putting myself in the scene now when I jerk off instead of being a spectator. This is how you should use porn without being a faggot.
When I watched some teen get fucked i'd pretend it was my gf. Now I watch and pretend its someone elses, or she is single and I picked her up.
When I watched a milf get fucked I'd pretend it was my mom. Now I fantasize about fucking my friend's mom instead (not an actual irl friend, just a generic friend that I made up)
I just stopped watching interracial porn because the different skin color made it too difficult to place myself into the scene with the girl, thus leading to me cucking myself. Don't do that shit, stop watching BLACKED etc.
I'm pretty sure all that garbage had a subconscious effect on me without me knowing because I feel better and have more energy, I noticed my outlook overall in life isn't as bleak as it used to be.
