How do you get 2/3/4/5 without being a fatass or roids?
time
>>36975899
workout and diet
genetics
>>36975899
Lifting for more than 1 year.
what does 2/3/4/5 physique look like family?
>>36975984
I have 1.5/3/4.5/6 at6'2 and 200lbs and honestly i look like shit, so shit no one believes my stats if i show a picture
>>36975899
... You don't.
2pl8 ohp is unpossible at a lean bodyfat, unless you are goddamn 8 feet tall.
>>36976103
>This feeling
>75kg OHP
>160kg Squat
>120kg Bench
>220kg DL
I put a picture up on a CBT and ended up crying at the comments.
>>36975899
5/3/1 and slow bulk on di pasquale's anabolic diet. Google it.
>>36976273
5/3/1 a shit.
>>36976103
You must show us
>>36976214
And you too
>>36975899
2/3/4/5 isn't the next step up from 1/2/3/4
You're doubling your The Press while only increasing the DL by 25%
Better goal would be 1.5/2.75/4.5/6
>>36976322
Dude what?
1plate is 60kg and 2plate is 100kg
>>36976349
No, you're doubling the numbers
>>36976370
>>36976444
>I was proven wrong so I'll accuse him of trolling lol!
You have to go back
2/3/4/5 is not the logical step up from 1/2/3/4
>>36975899
I assume murican pl8s
so in superior units that's 102kg OHP, 143kg bench, 183.5kg squat, 224.5kg dead
definitely possible natty even without good genetics but it will take several years of serious training to hit all of them
>>36975899
you dont really need roids for 3/4 of those lifts.
2pl8 ohp is arguable, that will be the HARDEST to achieve out of all of those. if you can reach a 2pl8 strict ohp natty then that's incredible..
People who can ohp 2pl8 (strict) usually have 360-400 lb bench
If you can ohp 225 but bench "only" 315 it means your pecs are a weakpoint (symmetrically looking)
Also, realistic short term (6-8 months) goals after 1/2/3/4 would be 1.5/2.75/4/5
>>36976322
wtf are you talking about? 1pl8 is 135 and 2pl8 is 225...that does not equal 270lbs(135x2)
>>36975906
This but dedication is a must. I've met guys that barely bench 1.5pl8 that have been lifting for 2+ years
Working out for more than 2 months is a good start.
>>36975899
With HEIGHT
FACE
FEAME
>>36976572
>1234 in 6 months
>realistic
>>36975899
4 pl8 squat is average among strength circles. For people in the 181 class
>>36975899
i got 3/4/5/6 in 6 months?? do you even lift?
>>36976847
>do you even lift?
my max squat is 325, and I've torn my meniscus and MCL playing college football, and had to get surgery on both, so my legs are lacking. I know girls mire most places I go, I've litterally been at a party just talking to my friends and girls just comes up and pulls me to the side a starts making out with me. This has happened twice, I fucked both of them probably only saying 20 words to them. A girl literally pulled over once and asked me if I needed a ride. I said "yea" hopped in, and after about 5 mins of talking she asked me if I wanted to come over to her place, and I ended up fucking her. Trust me, girls mire everywhere I go. So yeah, I guess you could say I lift.
>>36976308
>You must show us
I did in February and you all fucking laughed at my gyno.
So fuck you.
>>36975899
everything except the ohp
>>36976759
>Reading comprehension
UHHH... DEY ARE LEEFTING DA HEEVY WAITS! DUHHHHH...
>>36976125
Bollocks. I know a guy who can OHP 100kg for one rep and he is lean. I think natty too, just naturally athletic/strong build and has done sports while life. Me myself, I have only OHPd 70kg for 5 reps at 100kg BW and being far from lean.
run a strength program. and no you dont have to get fat to do that you can stay skelly if you want to
>>36976867
None of this happened
>>36976125
Lel
Nope
>>36976370
>>36977064
Oh really, why can you do it?
If so post proof, and body so we know you are lean.
Know someone who can and is lean?
100% chance he is /fraud/
Most guys riding bikes lie about that shit
I managed 2/3/4/5 natty in 2.5 years and I'm not that fat
>>36977074
>tfw this accurately describes my black boyfriend
...it is a shameful, hollow feel
>>36976467
>proven wrong
Dude what?
2pl8 is 2x 20kilo plates on each side of th bar
Are you high?
Cheeky reminder that Klokov has done 3.75/5/7.5/8 while being lean and aesthetic and without roiding. All about dedication.
>>36976273
If you slow bulk on this diet will you still gain fat?
>>36977170
>without roiding
>>36977170
>klokov
>natty
Nice joke, mang.
>>36977118
>not that fat
Which is why you don't post pics, right shitty-titty jelly-belly?
>>36977263
If you gain weight, you gain fat. (Except roids. Roids are magic)
End of.
>>36977170
>without roiding
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>36977170
>without roiding
>>36976759
>2016
>having shit reading comprehension
>>36976572
>going from 225lbs to 292.5lbs bench in 6 months
What the fuck are you taking?
>>36976759
I got 1/2/3/4 as 1rm in 6 months on a shit program (SL). So... What's not realistic about it? You being a weakling?
how long did it take you guys to reach 1/2/3/4?
>>36977827
I'll let you know when I get there. I need deadlift and OHP
>>36976214
>I put a picture up on a CBT and ended up crying at the comments.
aw we're sorry anon, here have a doggo
>now post your body you whore
>>36977170
>without roiding
o sweet summer child
>>36975899
I wish this 1/2/3/4, 2/3/4/5 meme would end. It doesn't scale like that.
>>36979348
i'll give you the 1/2/3/4
But ignoring ohp 3/4/5 is pretty close, the squat is a little bit easier but 3 plate bench and 5 plate dead are basically the equal of each other.
Im about 10kg off 3/4/5 hoping to hit 4 plate squat and 5 plate dead at meet in 2 weeks.
>mfw I can do 1/2/2.5/?
>mfw I fucked around and never trained legs
>mfw lower back injury can't dead without paralyzing myself
>>36975899
if you don't achieve 2/3/4/5 within 1.5 years of lifting natty, holy shit you're the worst lifter in history, just fucking stop. ANYONE can easily achieve 2/3/4/5 within a year of lifting
>>36979409
>literally no body achieves this
>everyone is the worst lifter in history
go to bed anon
>>36976444
He didn't say doubling the weight so he didn't lie. And the point he made is accurate.
>>36979420
DYEL spotted
1/2/3/4 means 5x5 or 1rm?
>>36979409
I hit 3/4/5/6 with 3 months of p90x. This anon is right.
>>36979688
20 reps
Find a good program like 531 or TM, etc. and count your calories so your surplus is within 500 or so. Note your fat gain and find the sweet spot.
>>36979775
This. Literal 9-year-olds can 1/2/3/4 at 1rm.
what does this 2/3/4/5 shit mean? Havent been here in a while.
>>36976890
>/fit/ is one person
who the fuck cares what a bunch of people who have said they lift less than you think
>>36979847
2pl8 The Press 3pl8 Bench Press 4pl8 Squat 5pl8 Deadlift
I can do those lifts except the OHP.
I've only gotten to 210 lbs.
>>36979912
Nice 18% bodyfat
>>36979923
Fuck man, don't remind me. I've been letting myself go on ben and jerry's.
>>36979942
That was kinda harsh senpai, you're stronger than me anyway
Don't know if you're a powerlifter or some shit but you'd be pretty shredded
>>36977144
Do you ratio?
Fucking tard
>>36977170
>russian weightlifter with tiny testicles
>without roiding
2/3/4/5 ratio is shit, you can't just increase everything by 1 plate or your OHP will become god mode very quickly while your other lifts are just normal.
I'm at 2 / 4 / 5.75 / 6.5
>>36975899
If you don't hit those lifts within a year you're doing something seriously wrong or you have horrible genetics. Just eat and lift big that's it
>>36981548
>Without being a fatass
>Eat big
PICK ONE
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>>36975899
I have 2/3/4/5 at 210lbs natty, been lifting for 5 or 6 years
You have to have pretty terrible genetics to not hit 1/2/3/4 within 6-8 months of lifting
>>36982262
Fuck off with your shit memes fag scum dyel show body and stats go ahead fag
>>36981548
KOT
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Everyone with average genetics can get 4 pl8 squat and 5 p8 dead without being fat. Some people won't be able to get 3 pl8 bench. Take Isley from /plg/, very aesthetic dude, but had to make himself fat to get a 3 pl8 bench
>>36982304
Not him but i got 1/2.5/4/5.5 in 7 months at low body fat. 6ft 83kg
>>36982389
He probably could've done it if he was ever willing to stop and consider that maybe his form was the issue.
