Do most girls think abs are unattractive on a guy?
girls want guys who are goal oriented, smart, confident, and fun to be around.
Gym, money, looks is all irrelevant.
I've seen the hottest girls with the most beta looking guys everywhere. They're everywhere. Even these 10/10 celebs have beta boyfriends.
>>36761667
Girl here, no i like the look of abs, it looks healthy, active, dynamic, strong... i dont even know when i fucked the last guy without visible abs...
You fat fuck should stop thinking about what girls want and focus on getting visible abs you greasy bastard.
>>36761667
What a retarded question
Just having abs might not be enough to attract them, but there is no way having abs on top of everything else couldn't only help you
>>36761667
Depends how defined they are.
10-15% bodyfat abs yes
<5% bodyfat no
>>36761667
Are you fucking serious? Abs are the most important thing for a girl. You might be 6'3, 240lb juggernaut with 1700 total but girls won't consider you fit unless your abs are visible.
>>36761679
Why the fuck are you even here semen demon
>>36761674
>goal oriented, smart, confident, and fun to be around.
>Beta
Pick 1
anybody likes a nice stomach, having abs will never be "unattractive".
>>36761667
Femanon here.
I don't give a shit if you look like Bertrand fucking Russel; if you bring a sixpack me and my bffs will suck you dry
>>36761667
In general girl like abs IF they are on a guy they like.
It is an easy characteristic to pick to get affirmation from your group, opposed to "I like anon his big anime figurine collection"
>>36761698
>abs above 10% bf
Nigga I'm at 12% bf and I have a little gut.
>inb4 muh high test
Don't meme yourself.
I just ate cereal. FUCK. No abs for me for another week
>>36761951
I'm not good with bodyfats. Girls like natty abs. Anything that looks photoshopped is overkill and will only impress men. However, shredded abs might give you more confidence, and confidence is more attractive than anything.
I have come across a number of girls that claim to genuinely prefer chubby men. Are they just bullshitting? For what reason?
>>36761977
Because insecurity.
>>36761977
I'd call bullshit
Honestly used to be the same way until I actually fucked a chubby dude. No thanks. I will say I find chubby men to be nice eye candy theyre cute to look at but then again not really especially when theyre naked so yeaaah I'm gonna go with no
>mfw boyfriend is chubbyfat
>>36761987
I suspected this, but are they really willing to fuck gross chubbos just because they're insecure around ripped studs?
Or do they just say this in public and then fuck studs?
>>36761667
hahahah no
>>36762002
Can confirm from numerous sources that it is true.
Most females get insecure when you beat them at "their" game.
Females want to be the better looking one of the pair, hence they rarely pick a better looking man.
>>36762035
>Females want to be the better looking one of the pair, hence they rarely pick a better looking man.
I don't believe this. Women will date the best overall man possible.
>>36762048
>best overall man possible
you said it yourself already, best OVERALL, looks wise he will rarely be better looking.
He can make more money, be smarter, work harder and so on but not looks
>>36761723
I can't, making decisions is hard and scary. Leave me alone with my videogames.
>>36762035
>>36762048
>>36762070
Egh maybe I'm a minority but I'm shallow as fuck and overall want a guy that looks better than me like idk why but I just like being with a guy who looks better than me where I can look at him and be like "damn the fuck is he doing with me" like I've dated guys who were a straight 8 or 9 and I'm a 6 , 7 at best and I loved it. Although there is a part of me that is insecure like why would an attractive guy want me but at the same time having an attractive guy severly boosts my ego. Right now I'm with a guy and I think I look better than him and it's cool, knowing that I look better than him and that guys probably look at him like hoed he pull that and how he gets jealous when other guys hit one feels good. But still, ID prefer him to be the better looking one in the relationship
>>36761674
Why not both, you weakling?
>>36761667
No. But bad genetics is unattractive, like that guys ab insertions.
>>36761977
Because they hit rock bottom when you stand in front of them, a greek god straight outta olympus and theyre literally just pudgy bags of soft trash
>>36761679
>Girl here
>>36762106
>Right now I'm with a guy and I think I look better than him and it's cool
See? Sure everyone prefers an attractive partner, but as you said yourself, you dont have a problem with him , even though you are out of his "league".
>>36761667
Always remember, when girls say "abs are gross" or "i don't like big muscular guys" or "compensating for small benis :DD"
It's almost always because they realise that whoever you're talking about looks better than them and feel insecure about it so they're pre-emptively 'rejecting' them to save face and maintain the illusion of the upper hand because they feel threatened or don't want to look like a slut by publicly drooling
Remember the Dadbod.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQlIPOTbuH8
>>36761667
WTF tis wrong with you ?
leave this board forever
>just bee yourself
I just don't understand how someone can be so stupid. Personality doesn't mean SHIT in terms of SEXUAL attraction.
In terms of raw, sexual LUST? It's literally all looks. If you don't have GENETICALLY GIVEN LOOKS (meaning HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME) then you are FUCKED!
And as for "autism", complete bullshit. Chad can be the biggest shy sperglord and girls will ADORE him because of his LOOKS, they'll just think he's "mysterious". Fucking LOL at thinking game even exists.
Face it. While you try to improve your game or personality, she'll be dreaming about (and probably visiting) Chad.
>tfw you're on bed with a girl on top of you and she's rubbing herself all over your chest and abs while biting her lips
i'm not gonna lie this is one of the reasons why I cycle
>>36762001
I'd had sex with a fat nerdy guy with inverted nipples and an emo twink with washboard abs. All my arousal comes from how I feel about the person, seriously. I've been offered to be sugared by douchebags in sports cars but I'm not interested in running off with some random because of what looks superficially nice. My current bf is a lanky skinnyfat with a receded jaw and neckbeard but I don't care because I love him.
If I saw a guy like the OP pic I'd say that's nice...I guess? I mean good for them if they hit their goals but I just do not lust after or notice men as potential partners unless there is an emotional connection.
I kind of feel insulted by the notion of just dropping everything and fucking a random guy I don't know just because he has some musculature visible I don't usually see on people. I'm not a vending machine.
Abs are ok I suppose. But so is just a flat stomach, or a beer gut. If I'm crazy in love with you my idea of what is hypothetically hot goes out the window.
It's not that I don't attract ripped gymbros on the street, or I can't 'get' them, I just hate the idea of a relationship being about 'aquiring' a person as a trophy or propositioning strangers because you assume they are as superficial as you are.
How many of you get your 10/10 then complain about how annoying and vapid they are?
If a guy I already like is ripped then it's ok, but there is something a bit creepy about a human body feeling harder than usual and seeing some underlying structures through the skin
>>36761679
>i dont even know when i fucked the last guy without visible abs
How do you determine whether they have visible abs before taking them home or do you leave/kick them out when they take of their shirts and no abs are visible
>>36762436
remember to never take advice from roasties. Roasties will always say something, then do something else.
>>36761679
written by a guy who spents all his time in the gym, nice try mate
>>36761720
My ex-boyfriend browsed /fit/ so i was reading and after a while i started posting.
>>36762160
EPIC
>>36762456
You can see it on the face of the person, in like 90% of the cases if the guy has visible cheekbones and just that overall lean look he has abs.
Also i touch the guy before taking him home... usually i just touch his belly while joking arround.. if he doesent have abs he can fuck right off.
>>36762489
thanks Im close to making it and this keeps me going
video somwhat realted I dont count my lifts in pl8 I count it in how many kylie's i could lift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVk9Qwr8nVA
>>36762489
Same goes for women who doesn't have a perfect hip/waist ratio for me, and some big but not saggy tits. They need to fuck off. I only got time for 10/10's, okay 8/10 if I'm really drunk and horny.
>>36762456
Its not a chick...
>>36762398
>FACE, HEIGHT, and FRAME capitalised
I MISSED YOU FHF GUY
>>36762532
and there aren't really three kylie's hanging on the cable when i do chest flys but it works for me
>>36761674
A guy to date and a guy to fuck are really not the same thing for women.
A guy with a body like OPs can wear a plain white T-Shirt and work in a grocery store and still get a girl like Pic related to go home with them (or even have her cheat on her 250k+ a year goal oriented boyfriend).
>>36762436
>Meanwhile in reality: Pic Related
Emotional connection IS physical attraction for women. They all think they're special snowflakes who got with their guy because they connect, when in reality they connect because she thinks he's hot.
At least us guys admit we're shallow.
>Have okay muscle mass
>Get fucking sick of the slow progress after noob gains
>Put on some fat
>Muscles look bigger
>Girls can't tell the difference
Women tend to thing fat people are strong just because they're big too. Abs don't matter very much, OP. You should avoid having too much of a gut, though.
>>36762604
lifting guys often become connoisseurs of the details in the male physique you cant expect someone who is not that obsessed to be as discerning as you are
>>36761951
>Nigga I'm at 12% bf and I have a little gut.
protip: you're not 12%
>>36762595
This. Bitches are so stupid it hurts to think about it. They have absolutely no concept of morality or companionship. Women cant be friends with men, or other women, they are too fucked in the head
>>36762552
Height, Face Frame sounds more smooth.
Let him be the HFF guy.
And yes i missed him too.
>>36761667
Girl here.
I don't. Abs are sexy as fuck and I'm disappointed with dudes who don't have them.
>>36762638
an actual voice of reason itt
I don't see why everyone lifts for girls. When I look in a mirror I want to see a living trophy of my own hard work and dedication to training. If girls like it too then cool but ultimately its for me.
>>36762734
>an actual voice of reason itt
yeah i'm the guy who counts his lifts in kylie's
my barcurl is 1 kylie holding 2 watermelons under her arm
>>36762770
Kylie Jenner?
>>36762779
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPwtJ89jes4
They say they do but in reality it just makes them insecure.
>>36762770
I stand corrected... I think.
>>36762817
my deadlift is kylie holding a full grown emperor penguin
>>36762862
Do you count the bar?
>>36762869
no bc i don't really care about the weight just about how many extra kylie's i can get onto the bar.
>>36762788
>Superior Kylie, and also Dubs
A man of exquisite taste I see
>>36761667
Some girls have this weird delusion that you can't cuddle muscular guys or guys with abs because they're hard
>>36762489
JUDY I KNOW THATS YOU WHY DO YOU HAVE TO COME ON HERE AND TALK ABOUT FUCKING OTHER PEOPLE HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME WE'VE ONLY BEEN BROKEN UP FOR 2 MONTHS IM SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE ABS YOU FUCKING WHORE I COULDNT HELP IT I WAS BULKING BUT ITS NOT LIKE YOUD KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ALL YOU EAT IS COCK
>>36763245
fuck off steven, also stop calling me late night on weekends when your fat lonely ass is sad, i dont care anymore.
I rather spend my time with chad.
>>36761674
Well gym/money/looks aren't irrelevant. They're the icing on the cake. If you don't have the cake nobody is going to eat straight icing.
>>36761679
Hint: Wearing girl's clothes doesn't mean you're a girl.
>>36763475
Maybe fat chicks would
>>36762489
youre a horrible bitch, the reason I'm go nuts for losing ab definition in the winter. The reason I can't bulk properly.
>mfw I used to have abs but then fell for the bulking meme
Ive only gained 10lbs on this bulk but I've lost all trace of my abs. Pls tell me its going to be alright /fit/
>>36761667
What are you, retarded homie?
>>36762398
>HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME
I love you man
I don't like very low bodyfat on men. I don't like them fat either though. Tfw no strong hairy bearmode bf
>>36762524
>and some big but not saggy tits
Same here. Any kind of weird looks tits and girls goes into the trash. Most of the other body imperfections I can tolerate though
>>36761951
you're not 12% if you don't have visible abs jackass
>>36761674
>goal oriented,
How are you getting a good figure w/o being goal oriented?
>>36761667
that dude has some seriously fucked up tits
>>36765030
how fucking fast did you bulk?
>>36765324
Not true, people carry fat differently. And abs barely become visible at 12% for most people. Bitch.
>>36761674
>looks are irrelevant
Wot
>>36762436
>How many of you get your 10/10 then complain about how annoying and vapid they are?
I thought this was true, until I started dating a girl for her personality.
Turns out people who arent vain are usually lazy as fuck and unmotivated
>>36766762
its been about 3 months so a little less than a pound a week. Started carb-loading and not being as strict with the diet, plus eating 4k calories a day. I also stopped doing cardio. I have a pinch of fucking fat now Im so mad.
>>36766883
It all makes sense now....
I am 5'11, 180 lbs skinny fat. I am a highly skilled performing musician and I've gotten 8/10s in the past.
I seriously look like shit with my clothes off. I also know other straight up fat slobs who are amazing at their art/music who get extremely hot women. Can anybody explain the psychology here? I want to know so I can further take advantage of it, or prepare for any potential dangers in this dynamic.
