What's better for gaining muscle mass/strength, ICF 5x5 (3x a week with 3 days rest 1 day cardio) or doing a modified SL 5x5 where you do 3x8 compounds 3 times a week for 30-40 minutes, then do Biceps,triceps shoulders and back on "rest days" for 40-60 minutes and one day full rest?
Why would you ever do a routine created by Jason Blaha? He's a fucking nutcase.
>>36701461
so staying with my current shitty routine is better?
>>36701461
dont listen to this guy. ICF is a perfectly fine routine. I agree that Blaha himself is a conceited prick, but ICF isnt shit.
>>36701414
PPLX
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>>36701675
ICF is shit. It's just SL (a shit program) with too many accessories chucked on.
Do SS, and add accessories depending on what you want to work on. Have small traps? Add on Shrugs 3x12.
>>36701972
>icf is just shit ss with accessories
>instead do ss with accessories
full retard
also
>telling some newfuck to do whatever accessories they want for whatever reps/sets
yeah, then they'll be back here in 3 months with 'guys i did 5x12 situps but i can't see my abs'
>>36701972
lol wtf is this shit you're spewing out?
>>36702011
ICF has way too much volume for a beginner, being both 5x5 and chucking on too many additions.
SS+Accessory is good enough for a noob.
>>36701414
SS+GOMAD.
>>36701414
How do i transition to ICF 5x5 from my Modified SL? do i just go cold turkey and change it tomorrow?
>>36702399
yes
PPLXULX
>>36702164
I disagree it's too much volume, but if you really feel that way why don't you suggest an alternate ss with accessories program for them to use because new guys definitely don't know what to pick that's the point.
And until you do pick an alternative to suggest you can shut the fuck up because you're derailing a thread about routines into another fucking thread about blahas disgusting body. Jesus get off his dick already.
>>36702538
Ok ty bb
altered icf
A:
squats - 5x5
bench press - 5x5
bent over row - 5x5
shrugs - 3x10
tricep extension - 3x10
alternating bicep curls - 3x10
incline curls - 3x10
lateral raises - 3x10
hyperextension - 3x10
abs ( leg raises) - 3 x failure
B:
front squat - 3x8
overhead press - 5x5
deadlift - 5-3-1
bent over row - 5x5
close grip bench press - 3x8
alternating bicep curls - 3x10
incline curls - 3x10
abs ( leg raises) - 3 x failure
monday - A
wednesday - B
friday - A
saturday - B
>>36703098
Seems like a pretty decent routine, might give it a try.
I switched to this and its been lots of fun
>>36703205
A split is fine when your use great like pic related
>>36703205
Is this what we call a bro split?
>>36703232
Did you mean to say use gear? How is this different intensity than a ppl? That's common even for nattys.
