wtf is wrong with me?
>lifting for 2+ years, got stuck at a plataeu about 1 year ago
>stuck at about 13%BF, it wont go down, ive tried everything:
>250calorie deficit, 500, 1000, crash diet for weeks
>cardio once a week all the way to running for 30 mins 5 days a week
>lifts also stalled especially bench, 180lbs, if I up the calories my lifts dont go up but my fat does
tried GSLP, 4 day upper lower, even a brosplit, NOTHING works
>try cutting again and I go down to 13% again and get stuck
seriously, wtf am I doing wrong?
>>36633914
Start roiding.
>>36633973
actually, I tried...
gains went up and I did lean out but the sides werent worth it, also, shutting myself down wasnt worth it. PCT with clomid and nolva for 5 weeks and I felt fine but I lost all gains
either you're low test or you're retarded, which is it?
>>36633983
Sounds like youre half assing it and stupid
>>36633983
Shutting yourself down? Did you really only use orals?
>>36633999
trips confirms both
>>36634008
im really giving everything I'm considering picking up something else like bicycling or something because lifting while still looking like shit while giving it my everything really tears on me
>>36634035
nope, 750 test e for 12 weeks and 3 weeks sdrol at 30mg ED
>>36633914
>stuck at about 13%BF, it wont go down, ive tried everything
So your weight goes down but your BF stays the same? You need to retain more muscle. Or your weight just won't drop? In that case you're a fatty with no willpower.
> running for 30 mins 5 days a week
"Excessive" cardio inhibits gains, this is common knowledge.
> lifts also stalled
Bad way to look at it. Glass half full vs half empty. You didn't stall, you maintained your lifts on a cut.
You probably just need more patience. Natty gains are extremely slow after 2-3 years.
>>36633914
Reverse diet
>>36634110
>So your weight goes down but your BF stays the same?
weight goes down, fat does not.
>Excessive" cardio inhibits gains, this is common knowledge.
yes but it should make me lose fat since I've been in caloric defecits several times
>You probably just need more patience. Natty gains are extremely slow after 2-3 years.
180lbs bench and 220squat is shit tier after 2 years. I really dont know what to do any more
>>36634124
>tried it as well as recomping, shit doesnt work I tell you
you got trolled by /fit/ into thinking anybody can get a good body/strength natty. this board is full of DYELs still making noobgains who think those noobgains go on forever and therefore you can be natty, 12% bf and bench 2pl8 for reps. just deal with the reality which is that the natty potential of most people is pathetic.
>>36634245
I really refuse to belive this is true, it cant be :/
>>36634245
although you might be right, probably gonna start bicycling or something because this is making me insane
>>36634245
Im natty. If you honestly think i don't look good you have a terrible case of body dysmorphia.
>>36634252
Strongest dude I ever met, 19 years old just outta HS, plays football, completely natty. easily DLs 500, squats 400+ for reps. I've seen him bench about 350.
That said, I'm almost exactly like the OP. I don't take training as seriously as him. Not even close.
>>36634307
what do you bench?
>>36634307
I spent way more time looking at this picture than I should, lol.
>>36634310
yeah seen those ppl as well, its crazy but all I want is to get sub10% without DNP.
>>36633914
God DAMN that's a rare pepe.
>>36634333
if endurance running isn't doing it, try sprints?
>>36634367
I guess I can try it but if a total of 2.5 hours running at a decent pace, 11km/hour isnt cutting it, I doubt sprints will :(
>>36633914
you spend too much time shitposting instead of training
pic related
>>36634331
Bench 235x5
I also OHP my body weight (165lbs, I'm a sprinter not a bodybuilder) for triples and dip 2pl8 for 8 reps. My front squats are up to 235 for triples too. I've been lifting weights for ten years though. My last relationship ruined my gains but I'm back to my peak and a fuck ton more cut then my previous lifting prime.
>>36634333
Thanks. That must mean I'm doing a good job :P
>>36634397
I guess lol
so what is your routine and diet?
>>36634245
The truest post ever written on fit.
>>36634149
I don't mean to be insulting, but is it possible that you are just retarded? I'm 2.5 months in with a 265x5 squat and a 165x5 bench. Most women would be stronger than you given a year. Stop constantly throwing away your muscle in order to cut BF, dummy.
