Why in fuck hell do you not do intermittent fasting?
because its a meme
why the fuck would I starve myself
Because I don't really know what it is or why I should be doing it.
>>36620837
You're not starving yourself, you ignoramus.
>>36620838
So you can have a body like in the op
>>36620797
just counting calories works fine for me
I'm not on steroids.
/thread.
if you are not on gear, intermittent fasting will ruin your life, and eat away all of your gains
yes, you can lose bodyfat by doing it will eat away muscle
his physique is jersey shore tier
i'll pass
>>36621033
This.
Only steroid users can benefit from it.
>>36621033
This.
You're a faggot OP.
>>36621033
>>36621054
>>36621066
>>36620992
You all sound pretty confident, but you're not actually saying anything. Does anybody here who actually knows something about IF have an opinion?
>>36621092
>OP samefaggoting because he's too Iazy to do research
Nah, you're a faggot OP.
>>36621092
You're a faggot, OP.
This is coming from someone who's been IF'ing for 2 years.
>>36621054
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>>36621119
IF is bad for gains IS A MEME,fags.
Unless you're talking about 20+ hours fast,there is nothing wrong with 16 hours fast.
>>36621334
Keep samefagging this desperate thread OP, you've aIready had your ass handed to you.
>>36621349
Not even OP actually.All I see ITT is 2 fags trying to convince OP there is anything wrong with IF when everyone on the internet recommends it for cutting.I guess it's just a huge conspiracy by roiders to make natties lose their gains amiright???
READ THE FUCKING STICKY.
Just fucking do it, you uneducated ape, for real. Don't ask shit questions like this and try to back it up cuz it will hurt your pride or some other shit.
Take 10 motherfucking minutes of your worthless life and read the motherfucking text.
Yes, I mad, fuck fasting and fuck you too.
>>36620797
Guide on how to IF:
>skip breakfast
>repeat
why does it need a special name
>>36621415
cringe-worthy post desu baka senpai
how important is the 8 hour window?
i can do the 16 since its essentially just 2x4 hours without food.
But im going crazy with 8 hours of absolutely no food. Its easy mode when i can eat something small inbetween. not adding more calories, just shifting obviously.
>>36620797
That pic looks so shopped...
>intermittent fasting
>not permanent fasting
pleb
>>36620837
>starving in 16 hours
top kek, fattie.
>>36621600
It's everything. If you eat in those 16 hours, it's not fasting. That simple.
Just schedule your eating better. Are you eating right before you go to sleep? Kinda dumb, isn't it.
>>36621662
talking about the 8 hour window m8. You cant schedule around not eating for 8 hours... unless you eat in those 8 hours.
>>36621689
You sure as fuck can. If you stop eating 3 hours before bed, then it's only a 5 hour window when you wake up.
>>36621706
dude.
after those 5 hours i eat right? so AFTER that, AFTER my first meal. there are 8 hours. 8 hours of no food. i want to eat something in that and not have such a big breakfast.
so i still have this magical 16 hours fasting, but not the (irrelevant?) 8 hours.
>>36621773
OP you're a fucking idiot and this thread is as retarded as you.
>>36621773
What the actual fuck are you even saying at this point. you fast 16 hours, then eat 8.
>>36621809
dude. Forget it you dont understand.
I only eat between 12:00 and 20:00. What's so difficult about that?
>>36621826
Are you forgetting that we sleep? You only really actively fast for 8 hours, because the other 8 is spent sleeping. 8x2 = 16. Voila.
I was considering doing it BUT training fasted can apparently make your body break down muscles tissue to get the necessary glycogen to fuel the workout and I lift pretty heavy with plenty of sets.I won't take BCAAs so fuck it....
>>36621835
I fast 18 hours every day by default. The fact that I can get away with only 16 is a fucking joke. People are so food obsessed it's ridiculous.
>lTT: The dumbest posts on /fit/
Fasting any less than 4 days is a waste. Your body doesn't even burn through all your blood sugar for about 2 days. Most people don't even go into ketosis and start burning fat reserves until day three.
I have water fasted for 14 days before. I know better than any of you fags.
>>36621969
http://www.psy-journal.com/article/S0165-1781(12)00815-3/abstract brain related
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24440038 obesity, hypertension, asthma.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095528630400261X cardio health
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3106288/ more brain
http://jap.physiology.org/content/99/6/2128 insulin
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC329619/ growth hormone
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2622429/ brain aging
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/04/130426115456.htm cardio and potential diabetes.
>>36621969
>l have water fasted for 14 days before. l know better than any of you fags.
Your bait is weak fag.
This whoIe thread is stupidity
>>36622038
Congrats on knowing how to post links that I will never read.
>>36621471
I do IF and honestly this guy has a point.
>>36622085
Should know better than think anyone on /fit/ was actually interested in fitness and science.
Shit thread.
Here is what happens when you fast.
Day 1-2: Your body burns all remaining blood sugar.
Day 2-3: Your body burns through all the glycogen in your liver and muscles. No you don't lose muscle tissue, just the glycogen stored in it. Your muscles may look smaller, but that is just the missing glycogen. Glycogen is mostly water, so your body is losing a lot of water, which all comes back when you start eating again.
Day 3-4: Your body converting stored fat into ketone bodies for use as energy, which is about half as efficient as energy from food, which is why you get headaches and are lethargic.
You don't actually start losing body fat and purging/cleansing until about day 3-4. So essentially, anything less than a week fast is pretty much a waste of time.
>>36622130
I have done it multiple times. I ACTUALLY KNOW what it will do to my body because I have done it. I don't need to read 4 articles that some random faggot posted to an anonymous internet board.
>>36620797
Why the fuck won't you just call it skipping breakfast?
>>36622148
>You don't actually start losing body fat and purging/cleansing until about day 3-4. So essentially, anything less than a week fast is pretty much a waste of time.
That's way too simply put. Your digestive system gets a rest during small term fasts and your cells repair during that time.
>>36622164
>eat before bed
>skip breakfast
>eat 3-4 hours later
Not quite 16 hours, is it =)
>>36621092
Seems like a good way to lose weight. You will have muscle loss if you aren't eating for a long period of time.
>>36622191
16 hours is not long enough for any muscle loss to happen.
I am. I find dieting pretty easy. Maybe cos I'm on meds that potentially can fuck with appetite but cutting is way better than bulking for me. I've lost 7lb in 2 weeks.
>>36622310
Amphetamines are great amiright?
>>36622176
>Eat dinner at 8:30pm
>Skip breakfast
>Eat lunch at 1pm
Looks about 16 hours to me.
>>36621349
PIs fix your keyboard
>>36622038
Lol I'm not gonna read that shit dyel fuck off
>>36621033
Not sure if I'm correct or not here but how brah, energy system goes carbs - fats - protein (muscle), and you have to be on some iron man, triathlon shit to dip into your protein storages for energy. I don't really know that much about IF but I'm pretty sure if you're hitting your macro requirements you shouldn't be losing muscle. Correct me if I'm wrong
>>36623719
You got your ass beat by a 12 year old. Fuck off.
>>36623719
The human body is so bad at using protein for energy that a pure protein diet kills within a few weeks.
There is no reason for the human body to use protein as energy, even while it is "starving" when there are ample stores of fats available.
>>36623753
?
do it if it fits your daily life.
its a preference thing, not an end all be all
>>36620797
But I do. It's great for working around my schedule since I only need to prepare one meal per day and can spend the rest of the day studying, working out, or fucking around.
As for the other benefits, I don't know (studies have not shown anything definitive), and I don't care. It's convenient, and it seems to work in my uncontrolled anecdotal situation.
>>36623761
Therefore IF would be pretty effective right?
>>36623766
http://m.tmz.com/#article/2016/03/23/katt-williams-minor-fight-video/
>>36623799
Fuck lol just realised you were talking about Katt, top fucking kek tho
>>36623796
Yeah, I'm cool with IF.
>>36623796
>OP is fucking retarded: the thread
How desperate are you to samefag so much hoIy shit.
>>36623831
No I'm just not being a fucking sperg m8
Just another way to create a deficit.
Full-blown ketosis is NOT a requirement for fat loss and can actually indirectly hurt your fat loss in the long run (rT3, rT4 production, and lowered T-levels just to name a few of the possible issues).
The same results of IF can be achieved simply by creating and running a net deficit for an extended period of time.
The only advantage IF has over eating when the fuck ever you want is that it has the potential to change your body's caloric partitioning.
>>36621471
P much. Gym bro talked to me about how he wanted to start it and I thought about it for a sec. I don't like eating breakfast so I end up IF by accident.
Because im using roids plus dnp soon, all fat no muscle loss gonna look hawt for summer.
>"b-b-ut muh natty card!"
Stay mad poor/moralfags
Because there is no way in hell I'm going to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger or rich piana by not eating, the opposite, I should be eating MORE. name one bodybuilder who does this shit (not some internet bodybuilder, I mean a real, professional competitive bodybuilder)
>>36620868
That physique is not in the least impressive, I've seen better Facebook and MySpace ripped selfies.
>>36621533
Nah mate, he's right as fuck.
IF is amazing. This is why I don't take fit seriously and only come here for dank maymays
>>36622176
it is, you dumb faggot
Hey guys, it's GREG HERE from KINOBODY and I'm just taking a brisk stroll outside my mansion.
>>36620797
IF cured my cancer, brought my parents back fron the dead, and increased by test levels significantly, best diet on the face of the earth.
i do and i love it
have binge eating disorder and even when i binge i gain nothing
>>36621773
Are you fucking high? Your feeding window is 8 hours. You fast for 16. What the fuck are you talking about "not eating for 8 hours"?
>>36621862
Think about it logically, the whole point of intermittent fasting is to gain muscle WHILE staying lean, legit it's all about body composition. Why would your body break down something it is using essentially to survive. It's illogical. Intermittent fasting increases insulin sensitivity and working out fasted does the same, so when you have your big feast, all of the calories will go to muscle growth instead of fat stores. Try it for a while and don't believe what every article says. Try the damn thing for a few weeks and check your progress, if it works great. If it doesn't then stop it. I've been intermittent fasting for 6 months and I lost fat and gained muscle. Just make sure you use other tools like carb and calorie cycling for maximum effect.
>>36622148
You do lose fat if you are on a caloric deficit you dumb fuck seriously fasting for more than a day is absolutely retarded. Everyone wants a quick way to lose fat and end up doing stupid things. IF is supposed to make getting into a caloric deficit easier AND making more of those calories go to your muscle cells and growth instead of fat stores.
>>36620797
I do.
Works really well. Not on steroids. Shredded 10 pounds in 3 weeks.
>>36621471
This a million times this.
In a few weeks you adjust and feel fine without it.
It's so much easier to deal with calories when only eating two meals a day.
I like it. First two weeks were rough but now its no problem.
Black coffee is nice to take while I'm working and fasting for an energy boost and appetite suppressant. Not necessary though.
I wish I had done it sooner.
I do some halfass fasting when cutting since I'd rather eat at least one meal a day like I do when I bulk instead of eating a bunch of little meals.
Shake in the morning, 1200 calorie meal, shake at night, puts me around 1600 cals and I'm good to go.
I will say it's giving me different results than before though since my last cut eating small meals my lifts went down but with this one my lifts have continued to go up, albeit at about half the rate of a bulk. I eat my huge meal like 2 hours before I work out so that may be why, I don't fucking know.
>>36621471
this, only tryhards say they're "doing IF".
I'm cutting right now- all I do differently is skip lunch and have a protein shake at night. Big fucking deal, I don't need to name my newfound diet
>>36625528
you're like that guy who reads classic literature and claims that "it's nothing special" because you don't realize that shit was seminal when it came out. Back when IF became a thing the previous paradigm was eating all the fucking time; people would be told to get up in the night and drink whey.
That being said, the value of IF from a body comp standpoint is adherence to your overall macros so if you don't like skipping breakfast don't do it. Health wise who the fuck knows.
Your body has the ability to synthesize new muscle all day long, why deny it the opportunity because you can't be assed to eat at maintenance.
