Anyone else feels crippling depression on rest days? I have always suffered from depression, but on the rest days its so unbearable. I don't have the strength even to get out of my house. All I'm thinking about is suicide, and how ugly this life is. The only reason I wont kill myself is because I don't want to make the 2-3 people who care about me sad, and I also don't want to waste those gains I have worked so hard for
I don't think I'll make it brehs
>>36580789
are you doing anything about the depression? therapists, antidepressants/lexapro, anything? its cool if you aint. but I've had a similar situation the past couple of years, and in my case, well, getting help has fucking helped.
you're gonna make it
>>36580806
Nope, nothing at all. I'm afraid meds will fuck me up even more
>>36580850
Don't bother with meds yet. Drink water, take vitamin D and b, and St johns wort. Start creating small goals to get yourself actually doing something.
Realizing that existing can be better than unexisting
>>36580789
Same here OP. Feeling depressed on rest days. I've been experimenting with cardio on rest days and it seems to help.
You are getting addicted to endorphins you produce when exercising OP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobiological_effects_of_physical_exercise#Short-term_effects
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endorphins
Just keep working hard bruh. Work harder than anyone you know and get shit done. When people see someone working hard (especially when they are in pain) that makes people want to work hard because they respect anyone that actually puts effort into what they do. I feel you man.
I've wanted to kill myself since I was a child. I've had a shitty upbringing and the world is tough to live in. Even now as I type this I fight thoughts of how easy it would be to just not be here. Life very unforgiving, but if you make it through this, you can do anything.
Immerse yourself in what you love and nothing else will matter. Share your love with the world. Put all your effort into everything you do in your day to day. Bit by bit you become stronger and shit gets easier. I recently had one of the shittiest months of my life and at a certain point it became so bad I didn't think it could get worse and from there I could only go forward. Everything started to get better because I was at my lowest point. I do believe we all have to hit rock bottom at some point to truly complete the evolution of ourselves. You can either stay there or climb out of it.
Do yo thang, anon! Don't stop!
>>36580850
if you go to a university or something, look up its mental health clinic and go see a therapist. most have one you can see for free a few times. that's what I did. don't be afraid to tell them you don't want medicine, that you want a more holistic approach, etc.
im obviously biased because this shit saved me, but when I went to see someone regularly, it finally made me notice that something was fucking wrong. It'll make you notice that "depression" is a thing, and you'll slowly become convinced that it's not just some shitty thoughts.
its cool to not want medicine, brah. but you're fighting a fight in your head that you don't know is happening. depression fucking sucks, and you pretty much have to win that "fight" every day, but you won't until you believe it's actually there.
idk bro fuck me probably getting too deep on fucking /fit/. depression just hits home
>>36580890
Endorphins aren't actually endorphins, they're cannabinoids
Yes, and this is why I brosplit.
>>36580985
What's a brosplit?
>>36580789
>SociaIIy retarded bIogging
>Non fit posting
>Saged, repoted
>>36580789
Yup.
I fucked up my last semester and now I'm on probation. I started the second semester pretty well, but the depression is getting to me again. I had 3 test last week and I think I failed all of them. Also I hate my major (accounting) the only reason why I picked it was because it's better than going into marketing or business admin.
I'm also feeling a lot more lonely. I go to a new school now and I don't know anyone here. I haven't really made any friends because I suck at socializing and connecting with people.
The little friends I have now are fading away from my life. I'm guessing in the next few years I will have 0 friends to be with.
Also no gf makes me feel like a fucking sad cunt. I tend to pretty much "fall in love" with any girl that shows me attention now, but I never act on it because I know she will say no. ffs I fell in love with a lesbian classmate whos in a ldr.
My life is a mess sometimes lifting doesn't even take the pain away most of the time. But yeah rest days are a lot more brutal
but you know I haven't killed myself yet, so I guess I'm "stronger" than most people.
>>36580789
ow would you feel if your GF said "im so glad we don't have to have sex every time we meet, with (ex's name) I felt like we had to have sex every time" when you guys only had sex once a month ago in the 2 months you guys been romantically talking
>>36583171
Man, I stopped caring about sex long ago
When you go your whole life without having friends after childhood and without so much as holding the hand of someone of the opposite sex, after a certain point you just hope that someone will notice you exist and then not mistake you for a potential serial killer.
Trying to get /fit/ hasn't helped with that last part
Do yoga on your rest days. Flexibility is important.
>>36583575
Trying to get fit won't help. Getting fit will.
>>36580789
75% of the day i think about all the bullshit i had to listen from my dad, all the drama, all the shouting, all the "i have the money you shut up", all the fearfull thinking...
god i really want him to die. i feel like he totally held me emotionally so crippled my whole life that i wasnt been able to acomplish sth in my life because of it.
i hate this, i wish i could erase any memory of him in my brain and start my life all over again.
>>36583629
You're being a pussy. A lot of people have rough childhoods. That's shit is behind you now, you're not a kid anymore, and now you are the only one responsible for your actions and your future.
Stop making excuses.
>>36580789
This may sound fedoratier bullshit but I just thought this out so bear with me:
In earlier days of humanity, a much larger population had to fight for survival every day.
These days it's different since living is not a constant struggle for survival. Maybe that is why humans start to make up stuff like this, to create something that they can conquer.
Maybe that's why there is depression in the minds of some people.
Think of it this way: This is the same obstacle that you have to conquer in order to survive. Fighting off the crippling depression and pushing away all those negative thoughts that try to tell you that you are not happy and not worthy of happiness.
Maybe, if you find something to conquer other than these feelings, you may find that they will disappear.
I think that is why lifting helped me overcome this.
>>36582160
That hits home man. You sound like me a year ago.
Literally the only reason why I dont kill myself is because my sister will have a big birthday party soon and I don't want to ruin it for her
>>36583726
nah dude you're onto something here
No time to be depressed when you're fighting for your life. Also making goals, no matter how small, and accomplishing them, is a positive feedback loop that propels your life forward.
>>36580789
>>36580789
I'm thinking about suicide constantly these days. My younger brothers suicide 50 weeks ago. I hate myself so much, because I wasn't a good enough brother and he didn't feel like he could talk with me. Talk to those people who love you Anon, doesn't matter if it's only two or three. My grandpop says he'd rather have four quarters than a hundred pennies.
Don't kill yourself, you're gonna make it
>>36580789
this is why I switched to PPL, only one a week
although I start getting the crippling depression at night too (I lift before work)
>>36583726
Depression is such a common thing today because the modern lifestyle and society has drifted so far from human nature.
Men want to fight, build, and explore. The only outlet for those urges today is business and video games, and both are a sterilized version.
>>36582109
>thinking fitness is just limited to muscles
>not making mental and emotional gains
It's like you don't even want to become empathetically swole
>>36583770
What happened with your brother? If you don't mind talking about it.
i lost almost all my motivation for workingout after switching to ppl from ss
is it possible to do ppl with a pxpxlxp instead of pplxppl?
>>36580884
Warning to anyone taking this anon's advice.
Taking St. John's Wort in countries that don't regulate it's distribution is risky and could lead to cataracts. Do your research before you decide to try it.
t. Anon whose eyes almost got fucked irreparably
>>36583765
>>36583784
Exactly my thoughts. This helped me, but maybe my own was not a real full blown depression.
>>36580884
Vitamin D is essential.
Vitamin B is too, but you've gotta look into a good source. Most B-complex supps have shitty ratios of the various B vitamins.
St Johns Wort is a good one, but you need to make sure you're getting it from a good source, and also be aware of other medicines and supplements that it interacts with. A lot of recreational drugs will be more dangerous.
Magnesium supplements can help with anxiety, and zinc supplements can help with anxiety and testosterone if you're deficient in it. And if you masturbate often, you probably are.
neet life and depressed here, how do i get a real life
i just escape with video games which makes me angry and no joy anyway
>>36583629
I know some people who think like this. Thinking that their childhood determines everything in their life.
Please don't be like those people. You can be better than your father.
>>36583875
I was first diagnosed with depression and middle school and have had it to varying degrees ever since.
That shit is for real. Men need an outlet for their masculine energy that's not just porn or video games. Taking up a physical hobby like woodworking or mechanics helps, and learning and practicing wilderness survival skills is good. Learning to fight, in a legitimate fighting gym like boxing works wonders for depression, as does (obviously) lifting and other forms of physical fitness.
>>36583732
Hows your life now?
>>36580789
Go ride a motorcycle on a windy road ya whiny fuck.
>>36583801
>emphatically swole
Kekked.
>>36580789
>tfw rest day, you're at your house waiting to go to work but in the mean time start going insane cause you can't think of anything to do
the bane of my existence is doing nothing
Well I never told any of the following shit to anyone but here it is.
About a year ago I lost my girlfriend, truely the love of my life. She’s muslim, I’m not, her parents found out about our relationship and wanted me dead. Had to stop going to college and had to stop working out for my own safety. Lost all of my friends and Spiraled into a deep depression. But eventually I crawled back up, no idea how I did it. Started working out again and went back to college, I was doing good.
Some time went by and everything was fine, untilI I started to get more and more tired. Tiredness eventually became fatigue. Fatigue to such a degree I started hoping I wouldn’t wake up the next morning. I had mono about two years ago so I wasn’t a stranger to this feeling. This time was different though. Recently I started developing more symptoms. Symptoms that point to either a badly damaged/failing liver or livercancer. Blood tests and other tests are currently being done, but it doesn’t look good.
The last couple of weeks depression has set back in. Worse than before. I haven’t talked to anyone besides doctors and my parents in weeks and the fatigue is draining me emotionally and physically. I would kill myself but I’m too tired to even do that. Ah well, with how things are looking with my liver, I’ll be done soon anyway.
>>36583950
Spiraling downwards, almost near rock bottom. Maybe I'll kill myself or live on the streets, I don't know.
>>36584005
Damn bro sorry to hear that.
Whats your major? Also why are all muslim people so hostile?
hurrr we muslime
we superior religion
you no muslime
i kill you
>>36583801
>>36583981
I enjoy that it's easy to misread as "emphatically swole".
>>36580890
>I've been experimenting with cardio on rest days
seriously, cardio is basically a cure for depression
read that again: cardio is actually a cure for depression
Clean something.
Like, just do some chores around the house.
Or get a plant maybe? Now is a good time of year to start a garden.
Depression and anxiety are the worst when the mind is left to wander, so find things to fill up your off days. Even if it's super gay, just do it. Find something you're as enthusiastic about as lifting. Find something you can earn every day.
>>36584087
Seconding that.
I recently came forward as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, and the common treatment for all that baggage (Anxiety, depression, PTSD etc) is 30-40 minutes of cardio, 3-6 days a week.
It took a really long time before I took that advice, but I've been running for about 2 months now, and it has literally changed my life.
>>36584060
Sports and exercise nutrition.
Yeah I know, I used to be pretty open minded about them before shit went down.
>>36584005
>truely the love of my life
>other people say you shouldn't be with her
>doing what they want
Are you for real? I too, have met the love of my life. I know the feeling, trust me. I've been with her for almost 5 years now. And there is no way some stupid situation like that could make me make that decision to leave her.
She either wasn't "the one" and therefor isn't a big deal. Or she was but you're just a fucking pussy and let her go at the first sign of trouble.
Aint nobody gonna call you daddy if you do what their daddy tells you. Lol.
Solution:
Don't have rest days.
M Upper
T Lower
W Cardio
T Upper
F Lower
S Cardio
S Cardio
problem solved
>>36584144
Try getting stabbed and receiving multiple death threats. She can't do anything either cause they'll kill her too. You know honour killing.
>>36584170
Try calling the poli-
Oh sorry, I momentarily forgot that they'd arrest you for being a racist instead
>>36584186
I actually did. They told me to not press charges because it would only escalate things. Wonderful world isn't it?
>>36584067
Actually I meant to type empathetically but emphatically came first in my phone.
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Posted this on /fa/ before but whatever.
After years of NEETing (3 to be precise) I noticed I'm going bald as fuck.
I'm only 24.
I have a hard time making gains and looking good, fairly big ears, scar on my forehead and worst of all a weak jaw/chin.
This has devastated my confidence and imagine of myself and I honestly feel like dying.
Finasteride can't fix something this bad.
Also yes I'm aware I was obviously ugly before I went bald, but this just makes it all seem worse.
Fucking was depressed already and this destroyed everything, I want to die.
>>36580789
never cared about dick size much, but now i feel tiny and i'm constantly insecure
kill me
>>36584698
Shave and roid, as for your chin and your ears you can get surgery
everything has a solution anon, except for death
>>36580850
youre right meds willfuc you up even more. Find hobbies beside lifting. Give your life meaning stop being a sad kunt breh
>>36584720
Stop watching so much porn and have sex with strangers every now and then
>>36580789
Started taking therapy for myself, sadly the bloodwork I need is still not done.
That said, I am still trying
>>36584762
I could probably get a transplant if I wanted to do ear/chin surgery.
I'll never do roids nor surgery.
>>36580789
This is why you buy a barbell and some weights to have at home, and also get on a brosplit.
No such thing as rest days. You can always do something. Practice clean and jerks, do arms for the 3rd time this week lel.
i feel crippling depression EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY
WHY CANT I FUCKING DIE IN MY SLEEP GOD DAMN IT
>fall for the cutting meme
>making great progess 2.5months
>because of this not seeing friends or drinking
>get a new job
>buddies wanna celebrate
>miss one meal, have a few drinks
>come into the gym two weeks later
>literally 20lbs off every compound, and struggling...
WHAT THE FUCK
>>36584926
two days*
Do cardio and meditation in combination with each other on your off days. At least 30 minutes each. Thank me in 2 months, it will help immensely.
>>36584861
Why not? You are already balding so, no worries on that side, and why would you not want to change yourself? if you're not willing to go in surgery, you don't hate yourself that much
That's how i do every big change in my life
I look at myself, and i HATE so much who i am at that moment that i completely do something about it
You are a conformist with a self pity complex anon, hate yourself enough to change
Start doing PPLPPLx
>broke up with gf
>videogames arent fun anymore, only play when friends are online and they never are
>spent most of my time with gf
>dont know what to do with myself now
>thanks to my workout routine, i get to kill 1.5 hours a day and its productive
>got into cooking as well
>body is looking better than ever
>cutting so lifts are stalled but thats ok for now
>gonna look so fuckin good at the beach
Also get a tinder. as long as you have a few good pics that arent selfies, you can match with at least one girl. Talk to her and up your game even if it doesnt lead anywhere.
>>36584975
I could get a hair transplants for price it'll take me to get my ears fixed, I've never even heard of chin/jaw surgery but that sounds expensive and pretty fucking weird to me too.
Roids, sure, maybe eventually, but all the surgery seems like shit advice.
>>36584926
>>36584944
No way could you have lost that much strength in only 2 days, try again in a couple of days, eat and sleep well in the meantime
>>36580789
I have the same senpai
Just don't take rest days, lift the weights instead of the feels, they're lighter desu
>>36585079
thanks lad i hope im just having a bad day
>>36584762
Well you have to find your confidence from some source other than your hair or jawline. Whatever you do don't be mopey. Smile, people will like you based on who you are not some bullshit uncontrollable superficial standard. Your friends and family wont care theyd love you even if you were a gargoyle(which you're not) Be a good person above all else and good things will happen for you. As for the NEET life start something tomorrow. Find something you would enjoy doing and start gaining experience in any way you can, volunteer, take shitty paid low end jobs in your field of choice. You're not getting any closer to the life of your dreams by sitting around being miserable. Might as well be miserable while making money and padding your resume. We're all gonna make it.
>>36580954
the problem is that I have no idea what I really want to do. what I "love" to do
>>36580789
>i don't want the 2-3 people who care about me sad
you have no reason to be depressed
>>36583880
what benefits will I have from vitD?
I got a test and have 12 ng/ml instead of >30
My test levels are normal at 595
Am now on vitD pills, what should I expect? (25000IU once a week)
>>36584005
are you german?
>>36585486
Try different stuff, just sitting at home while working nine to five every day wont get you anywhere. You have to physically get out there and try stuff, not just reading about it on the internet
I don't really feel depressed due to lifting, but I do feel like an absolute loser that could fall into depression at any point
>Final semester of college
>Questionable whether I can graduate because I might fail a course
>Fucking communications degree
>No internships, no connections, no social media, no prospects
>Haven't had friends since freshman year of high school (and that's being generous)
>No gf ever, kv, etc
>Can barely afford anything
>Have an okay job for a student, but a shitty boss
>Can't do anything about any of this because I'll most likely move after graduating, so I won't have any time to get anything done or enjoy anything unless I fail the class and don't graduate, which I can't afford
All I got is my lifts, really
>Can't get over oneitis
>Find out my friendships were all a lie
>Ex GF chose them over me
>Recently told her shes a shit person over text for lying to me
>All of my exes have lied to me
>Winter is ending so I can't be comfy any more
>Don't feel like I can get confidence until I move out
>Failing college because no confidence
>Not enough money to move out
>I don't even have it that bad I'm just alone and hate myself
>Stuck in a loop of failure
>No foreseeable way to end loop
YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP DUDES HAHAHAHAHA
Been seeing a therapist and been on an antidepressant about a year now. 7 months sober and a lot better than I was...but the past couple weeks I feel like I'm slipping back.
Fuck me, /fit/. Is this all life is gonna be? Treading water and trying to fight my depressed, anxious, addicted brain every step of the way? Thinking about suicide again, it's troubling, but I don't wanna talk to anyone about it cause I'm afraid of a psych lockup.
how do you guys find out your gf is lying about serious shit? i've caught my gf lying but its always about retarded shit i don't actually care about
>>36587185
find a new gf.
fuck liars
Same happens to me when exams end or gym closed for several days, its all about the meaning that you give, try to redirect yourself to another point of view doing different kind of things, you need depression, just accept it, depression is good for growing up! Meds are useless
>>36587164
It only gets easier if you do the homework.
Not OP but what's the consensus on antidepressants I have problems with chronic depression and I just want to know if they help at all or not.
