Pick any single form of martial art or fighting form to instantly be a Master of.
I think I would pick Aikido
Side topic. Do certain body types and strengths make you more effective in one type over another?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdX5IP7lOE
MMA.
Although it'll be easier if I just became Conor Mcgregor.
>>36537198
body types can greatly affect certain things that you excel at yeah, although usually it's more styles within the martial art you're taking. simple examples would be lanky sticks that keep people on the outside w/ jabs, push kicks, etc, vs a shorter powerhouse guy who're more infighters working short hooks, uppers, clinch, etc. i'm really oversimplifiying this btw so that no fanatics call me out.
>>36537393
you should get your chromosomes looked at
>>36537198
Savate.
>>36537198
>Side topic
think: sports
>>36537198
jiu jits and boxing
>>36537198
Judo so i can go to the olympics.
>>36537393
And get your ass beaten by Mexicans?
>>36537198
Aikido is dumb and doesn't work tho
>>36537198
#1 - Krav Maga
#2 - BJJ
#3 - Something that involves snapping people's shit up in close combat, bone breaking, joint snapping, etc
Akido is a bullshit martial art that has no practical use.
>>36538416
Aikido works but only if you're already a bad ass. It's not something you can start out with - it's something you do when you've already got a striking and a grappling martial art under your belt, you're tired of sparring, and just want to chill. The techniques are solid, all joint manipulation, but because you never spar you can't build that fighting spirit.
>>36537198
Muay Thai
sambo
>>36538468
I know /fit/ hates rogan, but he's usually pretty spot on when he talks martial arts and he's pretty right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIBi_lszsg
Why are aikido guys always weedy white dudes who look like they've never been punched in the face?
>>36538468
basically true of all eastern martial arts. theres a bit too much philosophy and not enough groundwork and fundamentals and generally just being a kick ass tough son of a bitch.
sparring and strength/cardio/drill training are the most important things in learning to fight
>>36538459
That's what I thought - but it's one of those martial arts that allow you to fuck shit up when you become a master. I don't know how to explain it exactly... But you wouldn't fear anyone who only knows striking arts
My Uncle is a master in Yellow Bamboo and I've trained with him before but not to any great extent. Very powerful form of combat that has practically no counter once you've mastered it. Video for reference:
http://youtu.be/WhnvETs4F6Q
So yeah I'd go with that because it's basically unstoppable.
>>36538544
Not really mane, a karate guy or a wing chun guy could kick my ass but I don't see an aikido master even winning a bar fight against big o'l bill
>>36538556
none of those are any good in competitive mertial arts
>>36538571
There's quite a few mma guys with karate backgrounds who use karate techniques fairly effectively in MMA. Look at Lyoto Machida. And karate guys are at least trained to punch and kick hard, which is effective in most fighting situations.
Wing chun maybe not so effective against trained fighters, but I'd say a small, asian wing chun master would be able to beat up a drunk 6' 200lb dude in a bar easy.
Aikido on the other hand...
>>36537198
>Aikido
I literally dont have a meme face for this
Aikido is fucing useless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIBi_lszsg
>>36538540
>Why are aikido guys always weedy white dudes who look like they've never been punched in the face?
Because there is absolutely no sparring in Aikido. They look like they've never been hit in the face because they've never actually been hit in the face.
Aikido is more of a philosophy/martial-art-meditation hybrid than an actual martial art. I had the chance to train under a dude who had been special ops for years, competed in Olympic judo, then went onto aikido after he settled down in the states. That dude could fuck shit up - not because of Aikido, but because he lived the life of a soldier for decades.
The thing about Aikido is it's just a combination of judo and jiu jitsu with an emphasis on joint locks wrapped up in a philosophy of pacifism. It's basically all about maneuvering out of the way of a punch, getting leverage on your opponent, and using that to take them down. The problem is, because you never spar, you never receive a real punch. You can't train with real punches because if something goes wrong someone is going to break an arm. If you ever get in a real fight, because you've never trained against someone throwing a live punch, you don't know how to use it.
It is effective at what it does though. I came from high-school heavy-weight wrestling to Aikido, was a big dude at the time - 6'3" 260 ~20% body-fat. The sensei had me training with black belts (damn those pants were sick as fuck) and those dudes could roll. I still remember getting tossed around like nothing by some 5'2" Russian chick who I had at least 150 pounds on.
zui quan
>>36538459
>>36538416
Aikido isn't like most other martial arts. I do Jujutsu, Karate, Aikido and some weapon stuff. Karate, or basically any striking art, lets you be able to fight reasonably well in 6 months or so of committed training. Grappling I'd say takes a little longer to get a feeling for taking balance.
Then there's Aikido over here with, as O sensei put it, "no techniques and infinite techniques". It's not trying to teach you a defence to a punch or a grab- it's trying to teach you a method of movement and how to have a harmonious relationship with your attacker's attacks.
I think of it like a theorem in Math/Physics. You present a whole bunch of specific examples until you get an idea of how something works in general. Once you understand the general application, you don't need to be rooted into anything specific.
>>36538840
Man, O'Sensei was a bad-ass. My only regret is not sticking it out for more than a year. Never earned the right to wear those sick pants, brah.
>>36538545
Except it doesn't because it doesn't work at all.
Anyone who knows how to fight will wreck your shit in seconds if all you have is akido.
>>36538840
> no techniques and infinite techniques
Is just another way of saying "This is crap", it's the kind of flowery language used by con artists to sound deep and profound. Akido doesn't work, period.
> It's not trying to teach you a defence to a punch or a grab
Which is exactly why it sucks, you're seriously trying to argue the benefits of a fighting style that doesn't teach you how to fight. It's like trying to learn to play baseball without ever picking up a bat, you might be the worlds greatest expert on the perfect arc to swing a bat in to hit the ball for maximum distance, but that doesn't help when you actually swing at something.
>>36538863
I'm not sure if you understood my point or what aikido teaches, so I'll try to reiterate.
Aikido has a base syllabus of specific techniques employing 6 base wrist locks and some throws from static and dynamic grabs and attacks. A good school and good teacher makes sure that the offensive side is with intent- otherwise the aikido is shit.
You learn a bunch of specific defensive techniques, but the idea isn't to teach you "this is how you defend against x" it's to show you how to add force to their force in order to throw and or break people. Once you have down a bunch of specific examples of how to do this, you don't need to adhere to a technique to be able to throw someone.
I'd agree most aikido is terrible, but look up the daito ryu guys (the precursor of aikido) and some of the more traditional aikido guys (andres cognard has some pretty crazy good technique) and you'll see people with a clue.
>>36538905
> I'm not sure if you understood my point or what aikido teaches
> He didn't agree with me
> He must not have understood
I fully understood what you said, you're just wrong. Aikido is full of shit.
> employing 6 base wrist locks and some throws from static and dynamic grabs and attacks.
And I've seen dozens of aikdo demonstrations. It's all just some weedy fucker holding a persons wrist (Basically after the wrist has been offered to him) and then twirls around while the other dude throws himself to the ground. Then they post it up on youtube and go
"OH MY GOD SO EFFECTIVE"
It doesn't work in the real world. People do not hand you their wrists, people will not allow you to just walk around while holding their wrist and people will not just stand there while you hold their wrist.
That's why it's not effective, real fighting techniques are about imposing your will on someone else and forcing them to submit to you. I'm a wrestler. I don't need someone to hand me their wrist and I don't need them to throw themselves on the ground for me. If I get in a fight I'll pick you up by your leg and physically use my body to force you to the ground, then mount you and choke you out. And unless you know what you're doing or are insanely strong there's not much you can do.
But if an aikido guy ever actually manages to get a hold of my wrist (Doubtful) do you know what I'm going to do? Either hit him with a stiff upppercut or straight with my other hand, or clinch with him and force him to the ground.
What I won't do is what you see everyone in an "Aikido effectiveness demonstration" doing, which is absolutely fucking nothing and just let this dude walk around holding my hand.
>>36538945
Again, I advise you to look at Daito Ryu if you have any interest in seeing the practical root of Aikido. Daito Ryu was used to kill people on and off battle fields, it's samurai grappling. The main difference between the two is that Daito Ryu sets up for wrist locks and throws with striking- something that is absent in the vast majority of Aikido practice.
Again, most Aikido is bullshit. They're (mostly) the psuedo intellectual hipsters of the martial arts community preaching peace and dancing in hakama. I've done Aikido for about 7 years and trained with a few hundred people and most of them couldn't apply technique to save their life.
Then you have someone good throw your ass across a room and you see the application.
That being said, I'd probably use Karate/Jujutsu over Aikido in an actual self defence scenario but the neat thing about Aikido is that it makes you better at every other martial art you do: if you learn how to flow with something it's not that hard to make someone collide with their full forward momentum into a fist- or do the same into a throw.
It's late so I'm getting sorta rambley so in summation: I mostly agree with you, and if you've already felt good technique and seen non shitty people performing it then you're more than entitled to your opinion. If you haven't though I hope that you're willing to be open and check it out.
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>>36538598
Oh Lyoto Machida, you mean the guy who started boxing and doing BJJ at 16? The guy who has trained at established MMA gyms for decades?
Right the karate guy.
>>36538540
Why does /fit/ hate Joe Rogan?
>>36538833
noice
>>36538554
kek
>>36538863
I've known a lot of fighters in eastern martial arts and you've got a point on this one. Nobody really specialises in aikido, it always seems to be used as a compliment to mote aggressive and practical arts. My old instructor used to fuck me up with some aikido bullshit though, it really helped him get a lot of power out of his skinny body.
>>36537198
Krav Maga
>>36537198
Bjj
>>36537393
>master of mixed martial arts
>Conor
>motherfucking
>McGregor
The Irishman has hands like a mother fucker I'll give him that and his jiu jitsu isn't even bad but he isn't fucking Jesus Christ people get your shit together. And neither is Nate Diaz tbqh neither of them will ever be top 10 at 170 simply because its not their best fit. Nick was good at 170 but Nates def 155 and Conors left hand has only been used against midgets as of late. I can definitely see him knocking bitches out at 155 and maybe even mid tier 170 but he's not going to ever be a championship contender when he goes above 155.
>>36538420
>falling for the krabby jew meme
>>36537393
>pick and single form of martial art
>says MMA
>Mixed Martial Arts
>Autism
anything that holds up in a brawl. so either wrestling or boxing.
>>36537306
qigong isn't really a martial art though. it's more a active variation of meditation.
still, if it counts i'd pick qigong too.
>all these guys defending bullshido martial arts like aikido/wing chun/karate
i wish to see a bullshido practicer get his teeth knocked out by some random dude that lifts and throws wild punches one day
one day it will happen...
i cant wait brehs
>>36541871
There is a video on YT of some skinny bullshido guy beating up a 6'5" Tyrone. Not shilling, i dont know much about that martial art, just saying.
>>36539893
I agree Krav didn't stop the holocaust Am I right?
But it is really shit.
>>36537198
Shorin Ryu Karate
Bagua Zhang for those meditation gains.
marksmanship
>>36538554
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>36537198
JKD, because it uses the useful bits from virtually all martial arts and is very adaptable.
>>36542075
I AM ETHAN BRADBERRY
