>tfw even Arnolds body doens't look that impressive anymore
I need to go look at pictures of fat people.
Go to tumblr then.
>>36436748
fuck /fit/
"we are all gonna make it bros"
no fuck that stupid meme. You already made it anon. by going to the gym and trying to better yourself, you made it. By trying to be fit and eating a healthier diet, you made it.
>oh but zyzz
plenty of dudes here where I live look better (florida), granted they take roids but so did zyzz, arnold and every other lying "model".
Be happy with where you are but strive to improve. that is what is important.
>>36436853
Keep in mind that we are on the anime/brony website
>>36436873
you are right man.
>>36436903
Generally, only few here look like they lift. It's easy to post here anonymously, unlike on bb.com for example, where you've your profile.
>>36436853
where in Florida? florida bro here
>>36436951
Does not matter if they don't look like they lift, at least in my eyes. I respect skinny DYELs for trying.
>>36437003
Ft. Lauderdale man
>>36437036
That's the people telling everyone how much protein to eat etc.
>>36437046
delray beach here, i hear everyone goes there to party/club
>>36436951
a lot of BB profiles look like they don't lift. lots of no avi users on the misc
>>36437056
Ehh most are not like that. It just a confirmation bias my friend. Don't paint with a broad brush
>>36437063
basically man. Its great if you got money unlike me haha
>>36437149
lol yea no money here either, im heading down there sunday for a Death Metal show at revoluition tho, should be brutal
>>36437195
have fun brother. Enjoy your time here
>>36436748
fuck you
>>36436748
You have a mental disorder. His physique continues to inspire me and I don't even want to be that big. I wish modern bodybuilding still emphasized aesthetics like this. He seriously looked like he stepped off Mount Olympus. Truly a gorgeous man.
>>36437149
Great attitude, man. I love seeing DYELs and fatties working hard and using good form. Seeing others' dedication stokes the fire within.
>>36436748
And SJW says society creates unrealist bodies for women, lol, most of them just have to diet to achieve those bodies.
Poor OP think a guy that took training, diet and roids to 100% isn't that impressive anymore.
We are so fucked, no wonder guys like Rich Piana are doing crazy roid cycle.
>>36436748
>>36438844
> We are all gonna make it brah
You know whats fucked up? We made it already but our body dysmorphia blind us from that.
I'm natty, probally made 90% of the gains I can ever make, look better than 90% of the world and still think I'm not good enough.
Fucking fake natties are to blame for this.
Its the whole: If you don't have 17 inches at 8 body fat you are lazy
>>36438889
I meant 17 inches arms
>>36436748
desu that pic isnt his prime.
>>36436853
Zyzz was a movement, a revolution you retard
It had little to do with him, besides the fact that we are all gonna make it
>>36438916
>"Zyzz was a movement, a revolution"
Besides the obvious fact that you have an extra chromosome, a revolution of what? "Aesthetics" achieved by roids? A revolution of achieving a body basically unachievable by natural means? You are a faggot.
>>36438889
>17 inches
Is that what it takes to satisfy her?
>>36436853
A-anon
>>36438916
Zyzz is the physical manifestation of a gymcel. He was a hungry skeleton who roided his way to an early death.
>>36438967
Not the guy you're replying to here, but yes. Fucking yes.
Just because he used steroids didn't mean he didn't achieve something.
Sorry your stupid American brain can't accept that.
I'm guessing you would have given Christopher Columbus shit.
"How you getting there?" "Boat." "Ohh cheating, swim ya cunt."
>>36439035
>2016
>still believing Zyzz died of steroid use not a heart condition
>being this American and brainwashed
I'm guessing the hypocrisy of the "Just Say No" campaign still works on you stupid fucks.
>>36438967
You are fucking retarded, go back to fucking reddit you dumb faggot, jesus christ, where you sad kunts crawl out off
>>36439060
Did I say he didn't achieve anything? He did. He had a nice body. He put the time and effort but he would not have been anything without the roids. You miss the point you fucking moron. The fact that the "Zyzz revolution" basically put out a body unachievable by natural means as a beacon of perfection is dumb and the guy was a moron and dug his grave. This board is called /fit/ you fucking dipshit. He had a nice body that he worked hard for and use roids with but he was a weak and unfit cunt.
>>36439070
>hurr durr congenital heart defect
>steroids and his massive recreational drug use didn't exacerbate the issue
Buy a rope
>>36439083
Sorry for being honest about your pathetic idol faggot
>>36439091
I'll admit he dug his own grave by using recreational drugs, fat loss drugs (allegedly), partying like an animal and hitting a sauna when he knew a heart condition ran in his family.
But anyone with half a braincell knows that he took roids, and getting a body like his, while not impossible natty, is very hard without being on gear.
I just despise this idiotic and moronic attitude that you Yanks have had drilled into you, that steroid use is somehow "cheating" or "wrong".
The guy wasn't a pro athlete, he was just after a nice body, and he got it by using gear. There are many like him, and to suggest that people are somehow in the wrong by choosing to go down that route, is just moronic and fascist.
It's like saying I'm in the wrong because we both chose to go from NYC to LA, but I chose to fly and you chose to take the bus.
>>36439146
Lol I take roids bud. I just don't think that roided bodies should be put on a pedestal. My father takes roids. Roids are not a bad thing. but idolizing a weak mental bitch that had a nice body shouldn't be encouraged. Natural bodies should be encouraged.
>>36438911
yeah that pic looks small as fuck
>>36439227
people just don't know how fucking big prime arnold was, they only saw the moviestar arnold where he was down like 50 lbs
>>36439173
Fair enough, but why do you think taking roids makes you "weak" mentally?
Do you and your father consider yourselves weak mentally? I certainly wouldn't say you are.
I think as long as people know roids are how/why a guy got the body he has, there's no problem idolising it.
Plenty of people idolise Arnold (and rightly so) and he didn't die in a sauna in his early 20s, he became one of the world's biggest movie stars and Governor of California, and he took roids to get where he did.
I see no problem with idolising that.
>>36439227
>>36439256
this desu
watch him in that hercules shit and compare it to his older movies. he's like half the size
>>36439258
Not him, but imo he wasn't weak mentally because of taking roids, but because he looked small and was literally weak for roiding as much as he did, and he took shit tons of drugs because he didn't want to or know how to put in work. Like, running 500 mg test doesn't necessarily make you weak, but the dude relied on test, tren, deca, clen, you name it, and he wasn't even THAT impressive for all he did. He just solely relied on drugs rather than learning the process, how to cut natty w a good diet, how to apply proper programming, and he apparently didn't know research how to maintain his health throughout all of this, and as a result he ded
>>36439258
I didn't mean Zyzz was mentally weak due to his steroids but that he was mentally weak in general. And yeah my father is a fan of Arnold and so am I (I actually did idolize him and one of the main reasons I chose to use gear) and Arnold is by no means mentally weak. I just really disagree with the Zyzz "movement" and young kids believing that they can achieve that body without some help and not knowing that fact. But yeah I agree. I also have no problem with athletes using PEDs. Without PEDs they were top tier athletes but when others start using them, you need the boost as well. Also, people don't go to baseball to see soft hits, they go for home runs and shit. People hate PEDs but love what they do. I rambled but I think you get my point. Cheers anon
>>36436748
When he won Mr. O he literally had more muscle and less bodyfat than it is possible for a human male to have without doing large amounts of drugs for several years
he has a pig valve in his heart because of it and would be dead had that tech not been invented just a few years before he needed it
It's like a porn star with size GGG tits who cant clap her hands, and a girl saying those boobs don't seem big anymore
>>36436853
>By trying to be fit and eating a healthier diet, you made it.
lol no
"making it" means to achieve your dreams even if it literally kills you no matter what
"making it" does not mean "i tried to eat right for a few weeks and wandered around the gym"
every fat loser has done that
>>36439414
>I didn't mean Zyzz was mentally weak due to his steroids but that he was mentally weak in general.
he was in college, had one of the best bodies on earth due to being a 90lb videogame player and deciding to do whatever it took to be a big muscle guy, it was his goal and he achieved it, tried to motivate other people and was in the process of starting a fitness business when he died
he was fucking 22, meaning almost all the shit we remember him doing he did when he was 19-21
if a weak person did all that by his late teenage years please tell me what he should have been doing if he were strong
>>36439414
Yeah I get your point, and I mostly agree.
What I'd say about Zyzz though, as with any drug user in fact, is that its a private property issue. By taking gear, or even doing shit loads of coke and fuck knows what else in Thailand, he was only harming himself. If that makes him mentally weak in your view, that's fair enough.
As a former DYEL skelly who has made some good gains naturally, I'm going to take gear at some point, and I'd be lying if I said I wasn't doing it to get a Zyzz type body. Yeah, I get he wasn't *that* impressive in the grand scheme of things, but I'd rather do a mild blast, keep working out hard, eating right, but still enjoy myself. I'm by no means a user of recreational drugs (but that's largely down to hypochondria) but I go to Ibiza a lot with my job, and enjoy looking good on the beach, rather than the skinny, white as fucking snow faggot I looked like before. I want to balance having a good time with looking good. I don't want to spend my entire waking life thinking about my body and never so much as touching a beer "in case it ruins my gainz!". The whole thing would have been pointless otherwise.
>>36439697
>missing the point
lol no
>>36439733
>he was a teenager
>it was all okay because he made incredible transformation from a dyel to one "best bodies on earth"
no he was weak. he had a congenital heart defect and played with fire by taking recreational drugs and steroids when he could have been okay. He didn't do his research and chose the shortcut which most likely lead to his death at 22. He was a mentally weak child. He also denied using steroids which is what is the most incredible part of this.
>take my protein powder
>watch my videos
>I dont do steroids
Even Arnold admitted to using them. I see him as being no better than the snake oil merchants of youtube like Mike Chang and all those other faggots taking advantage of those who don't know better.
>>36439769
>What I'd say about Zyzz though, as with any drug user in fact, is that its a private property issue.
the only way to look like he did was to take drugs
if your goal is to drive 200mph are you weak for using a car and not doing it "naturally" are you to be mocked if you happen to die in that car for your cowardly weakness by fat guys in armchairs?
doing what it takes to achieve your goals, and accepting the risks does not make you weak
the argument makes no sense
>>36439769
Thats fine anon. I use gear and I don't blame you for wanting to take it. I meant he was mentally weak for playing with drugs when he had a condition that was ultimately fatal. But have fun at the beach
>>36439769
>hit post before I finished....
I think that's why people admire Zyzz - he didn't just become a gym-rat who did nothing but work out, eat, and prepare for competitions.
While I admire the guys who are massive (both literally and figuratively) in the body building world, most guys don't aspire to that. People like Ronnie or Piana lived to stand on that stage, their entire lives were dedicated to being the biggest guy in the fucking world.
People like Zyzz on the other hand just wanted to be the biggest guy in the room, and that was enough.
Most guys want to look good, and have fun in life and Zyzz embodied that.
>>36439782
>no he was weak. he had a congenital heart defect
bro his mom just said that because she didn't want to list all the drugs he had in his system
you know who else had a "congenital heart defect" in exactly the same area of the heart most often damaged by roid abuse and had to have a pig valve installed to save his life in a risky surgery?
arnie
funny how that works out isn't it
>denied using roids
but no, he didn't
>shortcut
that's like saying a car is a "shortcut" to learning to run 50mph
there is no natural way to do what he did, he saw that, knew the risks and did it anyway
i bet you think anyone who dies trying to climb a mountain or achieve a dangerous thing is a weak cheating child coward
>>36439782
>>take my protein powder
>>watch my videos
>>I dont do steroids
>Even Arnold admitted to using them.
Arnie was NOTORIOUS for lying about roids, he claimed natty until the fucking 80s, for like 20 years (his physical prime) and sold all these books with programs no natty person could progress on (too much volume, he would have you do shit like bench 4x a week in multiple sets per day)
while at the same time going around to schools and telling kids to lift hard and eat right to look like him and point blank lying about the roids
look it up you don't know the history
arnie was a troll and zyzz was imitating his early persona
>>36437046
fuck I used to live in ft. lauderdale, I lived in Broward County. I miss that shit so much, I'm in Tallahassee now
>>36439798
>People like Zyzz on the other hand just wanted to be the biggest guy in the room, and that was enough.
not really, he was only 22 when he died and had bulked up to like 270lbs
he was planning on and in the process of leaving humanity behind
>>36439821
>his family had a history of heart disease
>Arnie was a fucking idiot for doing that then
>But he actually did deny using roids
>Here you again with your transportation analogies that make absolutely no fucking sense.
Im done with you. Keep thinking Zyzz is a god. best of luck to you
>>36439845
Yeah Arnie was a cunt and then admitted to it. He also couldn't admit it to during his competing years. He was a cunt.
>>36439885
>Im done with you. Keep thinking Zyzz is a god. best of luck to you
i think no such thing, you called him a weak child and that is not a fair assessment for someone who had achieved what he did
hell just being in college and trying to start a business probably is sufficient defense against being charged with being a weak child
when someone does what they want and achieves someone and another person calls him weak child for doing so
that's what is known as "jelly"
enjoy ur jelly
PS zyzz did not deny using roids, he admitted to it but could not yell it from the rooftops as it was a crime
arnie flat out denied and wrote books about how to get as big as him .... for natties
>>36436748
>>36439854
he was 215-220lbs at max, arnold on these pictures
>>36439282
>>36439256
>>36439227
is around 250-260lbs offseason weight with the same height, and has more muscles in his back than zyzz does in his whole body
>>36440004
Do you have that image without the text?
>>36440081
i agree, but you have not seen the last photos before he died, he was going full bodybuilder mode and there was a conversation about him saying girls liked him better when he was smaller. such as in pic related (and i think people remember him like this mostly)
cont
>>36440178
cont.
however he was even bigger than this when he dieed i just can't find the photo, he said he was going to keep getting bigger, and he was, at the size in this photo i would say you have left aesthetics behind and he was several pounds heavier when he died, he tried to bulk in secret and then cut and then be public again, he always did that
but he was in no way "im happy to be beach body guy", he was on a bulk that contributed to his death, not maintaining muscle
btw here is 22yo arnold, the same age zyzz died
>>36440204
arnie was better at doing the proper amount of drugs and not getting stupid with it than anyone of that era
note that when the photo you posted was taken arnie was claiming natty and invited to the white house to talk about how hard work and never doing drugs can pay off
warped an entire generation of wannabe fit guys into thinking they personally were lazy or had bad genes because the followed arnies published routines and did not make gains
>>36439112
Well, is roonie or arnie dead yet? Or are there any roidheads on /fraud/ dead yet?
No? Shut the fuck up, you know nothing.
>>36440491
>completely missing the point
>probably does not understand what CONGENITAL means
>not understanding that Ronnie and Arnie probably knew what the fuck they were doing
>Zyzz did shit like coke
You are retarded. Please stfu and consider reevaluating the choices you have made in life.
>>36440105
Literally googled "conquer without the text".
You're supposed to be the future of this planet.
>>36440593
>>probably does not understand what CONGENITAL means
it means "i fucked up my body with drugs but want to say it was just a random coinciden that I hurt the one organ in the most common way roids hurt that organ, but, it was genetic"
it's exactly like 500lb people being fat all their lives and saying genetics made their knees go bad
Bo Jackson did not wear out and then shatter his hip playing football and baseball at the same time and beating his body like a rented mule
it was genetic, it just happened
>>36441113
You actually still do not understand what it means. Look it up.
>>36436853
do people on /fit/ actually think zyzz looked good
im out of shape and when i see guys like that i think "i could take him in a fight"
like nothing but aesthetics and no real strength. he had no pecs at all for instance
>>36441179
Zyzz looked aesthetic as fuck. Post an example of what you think looks good.
>>36439733
not overdosing on drugs and using steroids.
it frankly sickens me that there's a culture of using steroids here. i'd put a bullet in every single persons head who uses them
fuck cheaters.
![71e0d8b699b95797ef03426e1f886860[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/pXCMcJK.jpg "71e0d8b699b95797ef03426e1f886860[1].jpg")
>>36441187
it's not that he didn't look good, it's that his variety of looking good makes me think of weakness, not strength. tiny waist and shit like that.
>>36441222
People lift for different reasons. I lift to look aesthetic not for strength, strength is a side benefit to be honest.
I respect the bear bros, I hope they do me the same favour.
>>36441239
>I lift to look aesthetic not for strength
can't respect girl logic from a man. sorry.
>>36441159
i do
it's a cover up word for drug damage that means "it was not drugs i swear"
like if your dad jumps off a building to commit suicide after going broke with bad investments and you say "he slipped while working on the roof"
i am very aware of what a "lie" is
>>36441198
>it frankly sickens me that there's a culture of using steroids here.
birth control for women is a steroid, literally, it is a hormone that prevents them from producing an egg every month
are they "cheating" nature?
at what game is a random gym guy "cheating"?
if i sign a contract with you saying i won't put helium in footballs, then I do, that's cheating
if I just feel like putting helium in footballs and kicking them around my own yard for lulz, that's not cheating
not complex
>>36441222
>it's not that he didn't look good, it's that his variety of looking good makes me think of weakness,
you sure do think about zyzz's body a lot for someone who claims to not like him
you could just stop worrying about his waist, it wasn't hurting you
>>36441263
Fair enough man. No real skin off my back to be honest, I'm there to meet my goals and I do so.
>>36441263
>can't respect girl logic from a man. sorry.
i see where you are coming from but the fact is nobody on earth gives a fuck who you do and do not respect
but i am sure what makes you a real man is posting on 4chan about the specifics of what you like and don't like about the body of a half naked man you will never meet and how his body makes you feel
>>36436748
food hormones m8
Arnie at his peak was literally perfect. Every girl's dream.
Really intelligent, driven, rich- even before fame from his construction company- handsome and ripped.
>>36439854
>up to like 270 lbs
I hope you're not referring to zyzz, because zyzz was 220 BEFORE he died at 12-13% bodyfat and looking notably bigger (though softer) than in his popularity peak.
Zyzz was around 190 lbs in >>36440178
>>36440762
>doesn't know Google searches are heavily personalized and depend on your previous searches
>tries to school other people
>>36439227
>>36439256
>>36439282
Yeah when arnie was big he was fucking huge. and yet he didn't look nearly as ridiculous as current Mr. olympia contenders. Like... everything in that insane mass seems somehow in proportion, controlled. He's not just a leaky, bulbous mutant
>>36436853
y-you too
