What's the best of the intermediate routines in the sticky?
>Bill Starr's Linear 5x5
>Jim Wendler's 5/3/1
>Joe DeFranco's Built Like A Badass
>The Texas Method
>being an intermediate
>not knowing which one is best for your goals and body type
I have bad news OP
>>36323511
What the fuck happened in pic related.
>>36323539
Scott Mendelson tore his pec trying to hit a world record bench
>>36323539
>he doesn't know about creatine poisoning
>>36323539
He blew a gasket
>>36323527
I'm not a weighlifting coach or sports scientist. I've just lifted long enough to not have a linear progression anymore.
>>36323632
neither is anyone else here. This place is literally just for posting jerkoff pics in CBT threads.
>>36323597
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>>36323597
ebin maymay dude XD
>>36323805
Shut the heck off dude or I'll shut it for you
>>36323597
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>>36323597
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>>36323527
This, exactly.
>>36323632
If you were truly an intermediate, you would already know your strengths and weaknesses and would know which routine (rather, system) to go with.
That said, if you truly are not making linear progress (I'm of the belief you're just bored or want to be more advanced than you actually are) go with The Texas Method. Weekly progression is better than monthly.
>>36323597
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>>36323597
Joke's on you, my mother already died from breast cancer.
Newfag: the Thread.
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>>36323511
Tbh now that I am more experienced I feel like a Westside style template is best for intermediates
What I mean is, rotating a main movement and building strength in it for a few blocks and then switching. Also incorporating strongman movements like tire flips, farmers walks, atlas stones, sled pushes and drags
This builds a broad general strength and musculature which is what I now feel like is most important for intermediates
Look up massthetics to learn about how they do Westside, that's how I would do it and then do some strongman stuff twice a week
>>36323597
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>>36323511
I like Texas method, but your diet has to be immaculate because the program is not enough volume to compensate.
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>>36325117
You have just proven that you don't know a thing about Texas Method.
>>36325262
Yeah urright I'm just making shit up.
>>36323597
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>>36324603
Literally nobody defines "intermediate lifter" that way.
I'm going to do ICF5x5 until I reach 1/2/3/45
then I'll do Madcow for a while
then a bodybuilding routine based on Texas Method template
Recovery well fatty. Fuck you VG
>>36325425
I'm not using it as a definition, dumbass, I simply stated he should be able to figure out what to do at this point. The fact he is considering 5/3/1 means he isn't.
>>36323597
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intermediate lifter = someone who can no longer progress linearly on the main lifts every workout
the actual numbers are irrelevant
>>36325425
not him but id say an intermediate lifter should be repping 225 and deadlifting atleast 405 at 165-170 lbs. that scale goes up if you weigh more.
>>36325433
>45 plate diddly
Wew lad
>>36325433
45x bw deadlift? :O
>>36325323
Acceptance is the first step.
>>36325454
Exactly
>>36323597
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>>36325459
no.
an intermediate is simply someone for whom simple linear bi-weekly progression doesn't work anymore.
stats have nothing to do with it.
>>36323597
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>>36323511
I ran Bill starr's (madcow actually) made good gains.
>Would recommend /10
>>36323597
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>>36325723
>Hello orangutano
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>>36325723
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>>36325667
Intermediate routines are designed for weekly progression. SS is daily (or every workout) and advanced (5/3/1) are designed for monthly progression.
Doing madcows or 5/3/1 too early inhibits gains.
>>36325723
hello orungutano
>>36323597
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>>36325723
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>>36325723
hello orungutano
Ello
>>36323597
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>>36325459
>>36325425
>>36325667
this anon knows what he is talking about.
Im at 1/2/3/3.5 now but I had to switch to madcow to get here.
I know a guy who got to a 4pl8 squat and 5 pl8 deadlift before he hopped on any intermediate programming.
Stats have nothing to do with it, all about progression.
>>36323597
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>>36325919
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>>36325723
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>>36325723
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>>36323597
this one isn't even about fitness
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>>36325723
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>>36323597
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>>36323539
nerve gas
>>36323511
>5/3/1
>intermediate program
Can we please stop with this meme? 5/3/1 is for old dudes and advanced lifters who can't progress faster than monthly. Going from a beginner program like SS right to 5/3/1 is leaving a lot of gainz on the table
>>36323597
>implying she didn't already have it
>implying she didn't kick it's ass
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>>36323712
Lol no. The majority of people in cbts have been lifting for less than 8 months.
>>36323597
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>>36325723
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>>36325723
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>>36325723
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>>36323539
This is what a torn pec looks like bro. I apologize for my idiot homies that replied before me.
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>>36328895
I'm literally doing 5/3/1 with a novice deadlift am I am currently STALLING. fuck my genetics, right?
reason might also be my diet. I'm currently recompositioning. should I just cut and bulk senpai?
really need you help plz
>>36329376
>cottage cheese lumps / 10
>>36329570
Both your technique and recovery are shit
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Kek thread derailed sorry op ask again in another thread
hello orungutano
>>36323843
Kek
>>36323511
Texas Method. You just need to know how to adjust it to suit your needs, because that's what intermediate's have to do.
>>36323511
running candito 6 week program
>>36323597
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>>36323561
Lmfao
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>>36323632
Dont bother these faggots, they are clearly arrogant dyels with no clue who like to e-stating and shit.
Doing 5/3/1 myself. It's great, flexible and gives you a lot of gains. Give it try.
>>36323597
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>>36323511
>candito 6 week program
JOE DEFRANCO'S BUILT LIKE A BADASS?
wtf is that?
>>36323597
jokes on you. my mom already died of breast cancer
>>36323597
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>>36325723
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>>36323597
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>>36323597
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>hide shitposts
>over half the thread gone
You dumb fucking newfags you only try to slide actual shit threads like attention whoring or blatant shilling. Not when people are try to have a fucking discussion.
Anyway, I'm doing the Texas Method. Works well for squats at least. Having trouble with bench.
>>36331982
>shilling the TM meme
>>36332040
I didn't say it was the best. In fact I even said bench wasn't working for me.
Can you not spend 5 seconds without calling something a meme?
>>36332142
This is /fit/, what do you expect?
>>36323597
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>>36329570
The thing about 5/3/1 for novice lifters is that there isn't enough volume to cause enough muscle damage to initiate repair/recovery whatever you want to call it. It works for advanced lifters because the weight they are using is so heavy it fucks your shit up.
>>36332155
It wasn't this bad.
>>36332276
TM is still a shitty meme.
>>36323597
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>>36325509
>I can 1/2/3/4 bw insted 1/2/3/4 plox
Anon pls
>>36332229
Just, don't. You don't understand anything.
>>36331982
Try using Justin Lascek's changes for powerlifting (Bench every volume / intensity day, press medium on light day)
>>36330483
I concur
>>36328895
As an old dude who is a coach and advanced lifter, I second this.
This is pretty easy folks, do this:
SS, then TM, then 5/3/1
>>36323511
I've been on Bill Starr for about 10 weeks now. Gainz have been good this far and things have been progressing nicely. You do have to know how to tweak it to fit you a bit, but it is a good routine overall.
>>36333933
I don't really see the difference between SS and TM other than easing up on the squats on wednesday and doing a single max 5RM on wednesday.
I mean other than those points, there are basically identical, does the low volume/high intensity on friday really makes such a difference in gains?
>>36334059
On SS progression is thrice a week, while progression on TM is once a week.
>>36334059
>>36334322
This.
Also, too many people approach TM like it is a cut and dry template. It isn't. This is explained in PP and Justin Lascek broke down various tweaks very nicely in his ebooks, which, unfortunately, are way fucking over-priced.
