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So we all agree that running is MUCH harder than lifting, right?
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So we all agree that running is MUCH harder than lifting, right?
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>>35934863
Yeah.
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>>35934863
No, it just sucks more.
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>>35934863
yeah
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>>35934863
Yes. Anyone denying is a delusional fatty.
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>>35934863
Yep. Doesn't mean you shouldn't lift though. Do both.
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harder, but easier
nothing simpler than just starting running and increasing speed / time each week
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>>35934863
Literally everybody can run

Only a few people can lift actually heavy ass weights

Additionally runner faggots are always extremely egotistical and puffed up about their gay ass "hobby"
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>>35935153
You mean simpler right?

Because harder but easier is a textbook contradiction, man.
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>>35935169
Literally everybody can lift

Only a few people can run actual distance and speed

Additionally lifter faggots are always extremely egoistical and puffed up about their gay ass "hobby"
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>>35935153


>>harder but easier

I totally agree. Most people don't seem to comprehend that lifting is just heavier but lighter while running instead is faster but slower.
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>>35935190
Nice
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Running is harder, but another question is, which is more rewarding?

I am DYEL, but running really improved my overall health already, the pros of gains are slower to appear.

Even when they appear, I still think I'll be more proud of the running, and benefit more from it over time.
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>>35935203
Yea.. I can see why people would have a hard time comprehending that.
I do... think I get what you mean though.
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>>35935169
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>>35935190
Outstanding.
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>>35935203
muh nigga
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running is mentally harder, lifting is physically harder
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>>35935382
Is running as much mentally harder as lifting is physically harder? Or more? Or less?
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>>35935629
Running probally, since we are way more limited by our strength than by our mind

A strong mind knows no limits, hence why you see longdistance runners run till they piss blood which is their kidneys failing
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>>35934863
lol, it depends who you are. I know many runners who can't stick to lifting because they just don't enjoy it... I personally hate running so I bike.
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>>35935169
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>>35934863
evert hear the term "run yourself right into the grave " fuck running
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Lifting is more hard difficult. Keeping the small muscles in your arms conditioned through lifting heavy weights with lot of reps is more difficult then getting your big ass leg muscles condition for running. Since FIT is mostly normal dyel fags they'll say running out of spite xD of dedicated athletes with routines.
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always funny when a guy who lifts sounds like he's breathing through a straw after a flight of stairs
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>>35934863
Varies wildly with how good someone is at both activities. A good runner will think running is harder than lifting because they bust ass to hit good times, but thinks lifting is a joke because they never do anything but fuck around with baby weights, and a good lifter works hard to hit huge weights, but shuffles along slowly as a "run" and therefore thinks the activity is a joke.

Some people will think of it the other way around, too (I'm good at X and bad at Y, so X must be easier than Y) failing to recognize how much more time and effort they put into one over the other.
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>doing couch to 5k
>pushing through the times
>finally do 20 min non stop run or some shit
>friend offers to run with
>speeds ahead of me instantly
>was running with a snails pace the entire time
fuck running
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>>35935791
>doing ss
>pushing through the workouts
>finally squat 1pl8 3x5 or some shit
>friend offers to lift with
>lifts more than me instantly
>was lifting withbaby weight the entire time
fuck lifting
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>>35934863
I'd say so.
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for me, running is easier.
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>>35934863
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>>35934863
You feeling bad that someone outlifted you or something op?
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>>35935169
>mile 2
>OMG I CAN'T GO ANOTHER MILE!!!
Typical powerlifter.
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>>35934863
its about the mentality. i can always lift even if i feel like shit (mentally not physically) or have woken up an hour ago. But when it comes to running i have to get really pumped to do this. Its way harder for me
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>>35934863

All shitposting aside i'd probably say lifting is a tad bit harder, you have to nail form, make precise calculations for weight/volume and recovery as well to progress and make actual good gains.

If any serious runners have any input pls tell
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>>35935969
It's exactly the opposite for me.
I look forward to running like a fucking dog, but lifting is a chore I do because it's necessary to reach my goals.
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>>35934863
at least you can always keep progressing in running

you're gonna hit your natty limit in 5 years tops, and most of your gains are gonna be in the first 2

the only reason running sucks is because i want to do it outside and it's always freezing and/or raining where i live
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Heavy power lifters would say yes.

Skellies would day no.
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>>35936041
Running works exactly the same way.
You need to be on point with your pace to progress, and you need to nail form (and keep it from breaking down when you're fatigued).
Long distance runners need to calculate max weekly distance for their training level to avoid injuries.
You have to make a training plan that involves several different distances at varying pace, and keep track of all of it. And everything is affected by temperature, weather, wind...
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ive been running competitively since 8th grade
cross country and track since my dad ran and it was our thing together
lifting is easier to progress at but harder to do every day
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>>35936041

it really depends. i don't think we can compare olympic weightlifting to ultramarathons - i think everyone would say an ultramarathon is much more challenging (if anyone's done any serious distance running). on the other hand, lifting 1,000+ pounds is also an impossible feat - and no runner would claim it is easy.

excluding the extremes - which is tougher on average? it depends on the person and their basic strengths/weaknesses. i think after having run and lifted for years, running is easier: i can do it at the drop of a hat and i can do it for hours, usually improving my time/form as i go along. with lifting, progress is much slower and takes much more out of me. it's also boring after about 2 hours.
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>>35936090
>at least you can always keep progressing in running
Only in long distances. Speed is the first thing to go with age. You're not gonna get any faster after college.
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>>35934863

any idiot can run
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>>35936131
not really.
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>>35936123
>>35936108

If /fit/ were to post constructively as these replies, everyone here would actually have gains
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running makes my lungs hurt
and my legs too
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It's really hard when you start, but once you get used to it you'll be fine
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>>35934863
Both is totally easy, you just have to be smart about it. If you wanna go somewhere, think about the way! Sometimes It's better to get there by car or by bike. Having a break from time to time helps, too. Same goes for lifting: Usually you can just split up the weight in to several pieces. Especially weight lifting equipment id made in a way that you can handle plates and so on separately. If a weight is really heavy and you can't split it into pieces why not ask a friend to help you?
In conclusion I have to say you are all really stupid if you have problems with weight or distances.
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>tfw shin splints
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>>35934863
It depends on what you have trained.
If you train running it is easier for you.
If you train lifting it is easier for you.

For me running is easier, I just like it more.
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>>35934863
I mean yeah. Personally, it's the thing I dread the most when I walk into the gym.
That treadmill, mocking me, judging me...
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I run like 45 miles a week and lifting is definitely harder for me
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>>35935942
>at 100kg squat
>OMG I CANT ADD ANOTHER 200kg
Typical runner.
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>>35937421
Any tips for a new runner?
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>>35936126
It depends on when you start. I have seen studies showing that you will continue to improve for about 10 years after you start.

If your 10 years are coming to an end at the end of college, then you are perfectly correct, you are unlikely to get much faster. And distance that you are running, 100m, 200m, 800m are a your mans sport. Marathon records seem to be set by the guys in their late 30's

So if you start at 30, you will likely continue to get faster into your 40's, and this probably holds true as very few people take up 100m events in their 30's
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>>35934863

Running is fucking bullshit. The whole time I'm running all I'm thinking about is how I could just stop running since I hate it so much. I'm pretty much just forcing myself to keep going because health. Everyone else I know gets runners high or whatever and they only stop when they get too tired. I don't get tired I just hate it.
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>>35936074
The thing about running is I can run and thats it, running is over, that exercise is over, and I move on with my day. Weightlifting is, okay i've finished lifting, now lets hit our macros/protein/eat more, now lets sleep, now lets get more groceries, planning drinking nights.
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>>35937448
Get a good pair of shoes that have stability (brooks Ravenna have always done the trick for me). Do a dynamic warm up before the run and static stretching after the run. Eat fruit right after you run. Don't ramp up your mileage quickly if you're just starting out. Check out "VO2MaxProductions" in YouTube he's got a lot of good videos about running
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>>35937521
>The whole time I'm running all I'm thinking about is how I could just stop running since I hate it so much.
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>>35937522
Sounds like you want to progress on lifting, but progress on running doesn't matter.
If you want to run faster for longer, you need to eat right, sleep enough and cut out drinking, too.
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I think that running is more mental than physical. IK it sounds retarded but think about it, if on his first try lifting someone maxed out at 180 bench, he is definitely not benching 225 on his 3rd try. But someone that runs a mile in 10 minuets his first try can shave a good 4 minuets off of that if he really pushes himself


My friend would always run a mile at around 8:30.. One day I made a bet with him that he couldn't get 5:30... He ran the mile in 5:28 then collapsed on the floor. What I am saying is he could not have done the same with lifting. If you can't pull 500 pounds you can't pull 500 pounds.
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>>35937047
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>runfags think they're better than everyone
>they don't realize their knees are being actually murdered with every mile
>my topkek will be too much when I tap dance around their skinny crippled ass in 15-20 years
Look at the physiology of a human. We weren't made for long distance, that's why we developed shoulders for throwing and projectile weapons, and also why sprinters are god tier fitness. We're made for a short burst of speed, toss your spear/projectile, and you get the kill and you eat that night.
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>>35937876
lol we are better than you
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>>35937693
The only thing you're saying is that people usually don't run at 100% effort (cause it hurts like hell) while people usually lift at 100% effort (cause it doesn't).
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>>35937544
>eat fruit after you run

What if I'm cutting?
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>>35937876
Medium distance is GOAT.

5k-10k is literally the sweet spot. Any more than that and you could be looking at running for fucking hours. I love lifting (and running) and all, but even if it weren't for the negative effects of training for too long, I wouldn't wanna be in the gym for >2 hours.
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Our connective tissue can't handle constant use, especially not the impact of your foot hitting the ground with all your weight over and over and over again for miles, and especially not every day for years. You all are crippling yourselves and acting like an asshole peacock about it. You will all make surgeons and doctors an assload of money in your lifetimes if you keep this up. Have fun with your medical bills and wheelchairs down the line. You'll call me an idiot now, but won't learn until it happens to you.
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>>35937919
Ya I was going to type that at the end... but I didn't
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>>35934863
>we all agree that running is MUCH harder than lifting, right?

No.

Jogging is easy. Working out at the gym is easy.

Training to race is hard. Training to compete in powerlifting or weightlifting is hard.

Most people on /fit/ don't compete at anything, though, so this will probably be a silly argument :)
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>>35937876
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/new_scientist/2013/06/daniel_lieberman_long_distance_running_we_evolved_endurance_and_dislike.html
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>>35937944
I'd rather run for 20 years and limp for the rest of my life than not run.
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>>35937876
>that's why we developed shoulders for throwing and projectile weapons
Please never say that again, you're dumb as dogshit.
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>>35937924
Fruit is good for you in moderation.
Just don't be a retard and drink fruit juice.
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>>35937944
This.

No one denies that early humans were superb long distance runners but ffs they didn't do it every day. And even if they did we have no way of knowing if they didn't deal with long term injuries later in life (if they even lived long enough).

Lifting 3-4 days a week and doing either swimming or running (fuck cycling) on the off days and 1-2 days rest is literally the best lifestyle for a human as far as fitness is concerned desu.
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>>35937944
Bullshit. Bad form is what will put an end to your running, in much the same way that bad form will put an end to your lifting.

If you keep working on maintaining good form, you will lift and run until you die.
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>>35937983
>even if they did we have no way of knowing if they didn't deal with long term injuries later in life (if they even lived long enough).

A long life span is not necessary for success of a species.

As long as connective tissue held together past our mid 20's to early 30's, we were winning the food chain.
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>I run every day guys
>check out my gainz
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>>35938110
>I run every day guys
>check out my gainz

Ashton wishes to have a word with you.
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Yeah, you're pretty much right. Taking it deep in the ass, all dry and raw is pretty difficult compared to doing the ass pounding yourself.
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>>35938110
>If I lift just a little more, I'll finally look good.
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Question for runfags. I started working on my 5k times and got to 20:30 after like a week and a half. I'd try for time every other day and just jog 4 mikes in between days. Now my hip hurts when I run hard after mile 2. I took a week off and only did eliptical for low impact but then I got back on the treadmill and shit still hurts after mile 2. What gives? I'm 22, 6'2" 190lbs not some oldfatfuck.
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>>35938162
Powerlifters are literally the bottom of the lifting barrel. There's no element of physical beauty like in bodybuilding and the lifts are boring as fuck compared to the olympic lifts.

>oh look he did a half squat and came back up
>oh look he bounced that bar off his arched back and fat stomach
>oh look he dragged the bar up to his hip

>implying you'll ever see anything this exciting in powerlifting
https://youtu.be/B-nlhZ0RR4A?t=48
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>>35938213
Also
>inb4 Dan Green

That manlet is literally the only saving grace in powerlifting.
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>>35938206
>What gives?
You were "racing" every 2nd day. You need to let your hip heal, then maybe save the racing for once every couple weeks.

>>35938213
>There's no element of physical beauty like in bodybuilding
Why lift at all? Just watch some gay porn and be done with it. Save the money on protein powder and all, lol.
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>>35938245
Let me put it like this.

Assuming someone knows jack shit about lifting, they would find the Olympia interesting due to sheer otherworldliness of it and they would find olympic lifting interesting because of the exciting element of explosive power intrinsic to the snatch and C&J.

Whereas this is considered the cream of the powerlifting crop: A fat man shaking uncontrollably as he drags a bar up his shins seemingly in slow motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95Yi9HcQ7s

Not to mention olympic weightlifters are better powerlifters than powerlifters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0L7E_5Qac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThtoUec2vQQ
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Fuck yes.
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Running is hard as first, but if you're just doing distance it gets a little easier over time. Like it took me forever to get up to 3-4 miles. but adding distance after that was easy. As long as I stay fueled and hydrated I feel like I could run forever, want to do a few ultras eventually.
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>>35935203
I contain multitudes.

Singular multitudes.
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With lifting, you reach a weight where you can't physically lift anymore without injuring your muscle. With running, if your legs are in decent shape you can run until you die. So I guess lifting has an objective ceiling which is based off of muscle mass and total weight? Not sure if it makes it harder or what but I think it's interesting.
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>>35935969
I think it's because running, especially longer distances, is mostly mental. If you don't feel like running it's extremely difficult to actually do it.
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>>35934863
Yes.
Just like how math is much harder than science.
Playing an instrument is much harder than singing.
Drinking is much harder than eating.
Inhaling is much harder than exhaling.
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>>35938206
Sometimes the hip locks into some weird position as the muscles fatigue. If it's one sided pain it could be leg muscles and the hip tilt will sort of follow one leg as it moves. If it's neither it's more likely a trunk muscle like your abs and is like pelvic tilt in general.

This is pretty common in people running on their own. Runners with coaches do more stretches and drills like duck walking and high knees. Rest it and do more warm up and drills and things as you build up again.
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>>35937437
WTH are you talking about? A lot of distance runners squat. It's literally the nest form of crosstraining for runners. 100kg is easy mode for me.
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>>35938500
This t.b.h. familiga.

I'm a liftfag but even I have to admit that that final set of squats or deadlifts is a walk in the park (mentally) compared to that last 100m in the freezing cold. Don't forger that at the end of the day, most of the time you spend in a gym session IS resting - the time your muscles are actually under tension is only a fraction. With running it is non-stop.

Maybe olympic weightlifting or strongman are the only ones that come close to the mental fortitude required.
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>>35937601
It might be more than I am better at running and upping distance or speed is a lot easier for me so I generally dont have to try as hard. Lifting I feel like everything needs to be perfect for me to even improve. 6'5'' Skelly
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>>35938357
>Let me put it like this.
No. Let me.

>Assuming someone knows jack shit about lifting, they would find the Olympia interesting
Like yourself? I agree! Bodybuilding is like watching Ms. America. Oiled up whores for all to enjoy :)

>this is considered the cream of the powerlifting crop
Nope. Eddie Hall is an admirable beast, but that is not powerlifting.

>olympic weightlifters are better powerlifters than powerlifters.
Not unless they step on the competition platform. I would hope they are some of the best though. Oly weightlifters are often chosen near birth with the right leverages and genetics to become the best oly strength athletes. Powerlifting is more "hobby-ish".

No need to be so decisive, though. Just lift and have fun. And go for a run. It might help you with your frustration.
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>>35938598
A lot of top runners can squat 2 pl8, but many don't go much beyond that.
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>>35938691
>Bodybuilding is like watching Ms. America. Oiled up whores for all to enjoy :)
It is a freakshow but that doesn't mean it isn't interesting and funnily enough more 'mainstream' than powerlifting, which was my original point.

>Eddie Hall is an admirable beast, but that is not powerlifting.
I'm curious: Why not?

>Not unless they step on the competition platform.
Sure, none of them would be winning any meets any time soon, but I would personally be more interested to watch Lu Xiaojun perform a technically perfect squat than Lillebridge putting up twice the weight with the bare minimum of depth.

I'm just saying that powerlifting is the most banal branch of lifting. Those who practise it love it and good for them but for those of us who only look in on the sport casually, the shameful practices of the various federations (like atrocious squat depth judging) and the inherently boring to watch lifts will always hold it back.

>It might help you with your frustration.
>the only reason someone doesn't like what I like is because they're frustrated
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>>35938835
TL:DR

Do what you like. It's all a hobby. Enjoy. You want to watch sweaty guys flexing? Go ahead. If I want to watch sweaty fat guys lifting? Good too. It does. Not. Matter. Just hobbies, pal.

>That being said, running is fun, so don't spend a whole life missing out :)
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>>35935849
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>running
>lifting
>hard
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>>35937468
Sprints are the best running event. It's essential oly lifting in that it plyometric power. Distance running is gay and stupid. It serves a purpose for health, but no more than 20 minutes. If you really want health, do a fast 800m and a mile tops. I used to sprint 400m in 49 seconds in hs and that had me in best shape for lungs and heart.

just look at marathon runners vs sprinters. who looks healthier? Runners actually fuck up their hearts with too low of bpm.

tldr; sprints are lifting of running world
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>>35939048
>I used to sprint 400m in 49 seconds in hs

Let me guess, was that a relay split? Lmao.
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>>35935203
cheeky cunt
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At amateur levels both are easy. I can run, you can run, but I'm sure an expert runner would make me look like a faggot. At expert levels, both are hard. I can lift, you can lift, but an expert lifter would make me look like a pussy. You can't fucking compare apples to oranges.
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>>35935169
found the powerlifter
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>>35935184
This
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Both running and lifting are easy to make initial progress in. Both of them you can linearly progress for a good while, with a short running distance 5km.

I've pulled 500lbs in a powerlifting meet which was the hardest lift I've ever done. I've ran a 5km in 25 minutes as well. The deadlift was definitely harder than the 5km run.

>>35939048
>just look at marathon runners vs sprinters. who looks healthier?

There's a great chance of you fucking your shit up during a sprint than there is during a marathon.
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>>35939619
>I've pulled 500lbs in a powerlifting meet which was the hardest lift I've ever done.
That's great for a lift.

>I've ran a 5km in 25 minutes as well.
That's abysmally weak for a run.

>The deadlift was definitely harder than the 5km run.
Well, yeah. Your deadlift was strong and your run was weak. What's your point?
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>>35935169
Everything u just said applies to lifters too.
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>>35938206
stretching, correct running form etc are all fundamental to running w/o injuries, you gave too little info

but in general you dont wanty to 'try for time' more often than 1-2 weeks for 5k, fe marathoners, even amateur, run usually only two marathons a year - spring one and autumn one bc its so damaging to your muscles

also 20:30 5k is a great time!
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Harder but also worse. Like there is no point wasting your time on long distance running unless you enjoy it.
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>>35935666
this
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running is good for auschwitz transformations
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I feel running is more exhausting, while lifting is more challenging.

One requires a sustained skillset, the other is more explosive.
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running is for skinny fags
powerlifters are beta unaesthetic
bodybuilders are ugly
strongmen = alpha male + do cardio
honorable mention - boxers = alpha
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I used to be a long distance runner, i've since moved to gym.

Lifting is a joke in comparison.
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/thread
p.s. when you piss of that lion, don't rely on your long distance jogging
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>>35934863
you should try rowing if you want hard.
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>>35942164
The big black body 2bh
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>>35935190
No, increasing cardiovascular capacity and conditioning is significantly easier than increasing strength and muscle mass
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>>35934863
>run/jog/walk 5km
>puffed out for a few minutes then more or less okay again

>started SS yesterday, Squats, bench and dead lifts
>legs and chest feel like fucking jelly, sensitive and sore as fuck
>still tender and sensitive a day later and still walking around like a fucking limp robot


yeah naa. but seriously /fit/ how do I ease the pain?
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>>35942406
by killing your self you filthy weaboo beta
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>>35942423
ugghhh don't you know? even when on /fit/ you're still in a weeb naibourhood
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>>35942406
U just have to keep going, the pain will eventually fade
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>>35942406
>run/jog/walk 5km
Try actually running an actual distance.
See how "more or less okay again" you are after 10k in 40 minutes.
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>>35942406
>how do I ease the pain?
Get a massage or foam roll, sauna might also help.
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>>35934863
Nope. Insomniac here.

I cam still force myself to do cardio after a night where i didn't sleep. It's not necessarioy dangerous; just frustrating.

Lifting after not sleeping well? Definitely more dangerous. Not only are your strength levels sapped, but there's the concentration element as well.

Once you get past intermediate on your lifting stats and lift for strength, you have to be "on" or it's going to be a bad session. For cardio, you can just fight through it.

If you don't have sleeping problems, maybe my points are a non issue.
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>>35942406
How do you post a blank picture?
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>>35942475
>fatasfatass
>been jogging 5k's every Saturday for about a month
>tfw only jog at a slow as fuck pace, but consistently

How am I doing m8s? I'm 6'4 and about 128kgs.
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>>35938835

>Eddie Hall is an admirable beast, but that is not powerlifting.
>>I'm curious: Why not?
Eddie Hall, as far as know, does not compete in Squat.
Powerlifting is the squat, bench press and deadlift. Olympic weightlifting is the snatch and the clean & jerk. Strongman is a variety of events such as atlas stones, farmer's walk, log clean and press, carrying/loading medley.
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>>35942537
>5k in 40 minutes
Dude, that's just barely above brisk walking pace.
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>>35942537
>How am I doing m8s?
I can hear your knees creaking from here. Take up something like swimming until you lose enough weight to not kill your joints
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>>35942560
True, I've never suffered from shin splints.
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>>35942559
Yeah, I know. I'm way slow. I can keep it up for a while though.
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>>35942475
This right here

When you leave intermediate lifting behind you need to have a 100% otherwise it's a wasted session
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>>35942537
You are better off just walking uphill, or on a treadmill with maximum incline. Running while obese can set the stage for joint problems later on. In extreme cases several micro bone fractures of the shins and feet from the high impact.
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>>35935203
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>>35937876
>humans literally are made for long distance
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>>35942435

Fucking delusional weebs man
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>>35934863

Yes its harder because its fucking boring and pointless. Its always the same boring shit.
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>>35942537
Dude, really, stay motivated. But please lose som weight before running. With 130 kg, you are torturing your joints with every step you take. Do something like cycling, or swimming, until you have lost a considerable ammount of weight. Your joints will thank you.

Also, for progress, running once a week is not enough.
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>>35935203
I had the same revelation about running when I could finally go as far as get do look more than like, honestly.
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>>35942926
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Running is easier if you've run before.

Lifting is easier if you've lifted before.

If you've done neither they both feel impossible.
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>>35943410
lmao bitter ass virgini

TLDR but I bet it was some sob story about your mom getting dick or your wife's son

just take the L cucklet
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>>35937958
Underrated post.
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Lifting requires more discipline but running itself is harder whilst doing it.

Running is 90% mental. Lifting is mainly physical.
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>>35935190
>If i run now nobody could catch me
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>>35943686
>>Running is 90% mental.
That's why competitive sprinters doesn't train much and just tries really hard at a race right? Or could it be that you just don't know what you're talking about?
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>>35935752
>not lifting hard
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>>35943706
You don't understand what I said or meant. Endurance running is mainly a mental game, sure you need to train but it comes down to being able to mentally push on.
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>>35934863
biking is superior to running in just about every way. running consistently is just gonna wear on your joints and fuck your shit up in the long run.
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>>35943686
>Lifting requires more discipline
>Running is 90% mental
goddamn you're fucking retarded
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>>35943759
>Endurance running is mainly a mental game, sure you need to train but it comes down to being able to mentally push on.
Sure there is a mental aspect to it but those who are in the top are those that train the hardest, to say that it's 90% a mental game is to shit on the hard work they put in.
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>>35943759
You can mentally push on at a 10 minute mile pace.
If you want to go at a pace that lets you compete, you need to train hard.
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>>35943779
Lifting does require more discipline (meal prep etc), the actual act of running is more mental than the act of lifting. I don't expect you to agree but you're retarded if you don't understand what I am suggesting.

>>35943792
>>35943815
Of course training will give you a big edge in anything you do. I'm simply saying that in terms of actually competing and for the average person, running requires much more of a mental effort to push on than lifting does.
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>>35943856
>Lifting does require more discipline (meal prep etc)
Now you're just confusing your difference in in-depth knowledge between lifting and running for an accurate description of reality.
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>>35943856
Dude we understand you.
You're just wrong. I do both. I need to psych myself a lot more to get through my lifting routine than to finish my runs, cause I like running more and have done it for longer.
You like lifting more so it's the other way around.

Running requires as much discipline regarding nutrition and training if you want to progress instead of just maintaining at an average level.

You're comparing serious lifters with joggers, but joggers are much closer to curlbros.
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>>35943878
no confusions friend :^)
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Lifting is physically more difficult
Running is mentally more difficult
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>>35943921
yeah, nah. But you've never ran long-distance anyway so
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>>35943910
I see your point. I'm just speaking from my own personal experience. I don't ever plan on competing in running, only do it for sports/function etc.

I've been lifting for about double the time that I've been running so for me personally running is more difficult. So long as I can run 6 miles in a decent time and keep my mile under 6 minutes I'm happy. I personally think I enjoy running more though, something is more satisfying about pushing through when your body is telling you to stop.
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>>35943921
To progress in lifting, you need to train at least 3x1h per week, and you take a few minutes break after a few seconds of exertion.
To progress in running, you need to train at least 3x1h per week, but you don't take any breaks in between.

How is lifting more difficult physically?
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>>35934863
Yup totally. Anyone who disagrees has never done proper long distance running. By far the most torturous exercise. Weightlifting is popular now because its generally quite easy and fun to do. That being said it is a skill and getting v strong is something that takes adherence and intelligence, probably more so than any kinddof running.

tldr. Running way tougher, not necessarily more difficult in some ways
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>>35934863
no

running is low intensity while lifting is high intensity

lifting requires more concentration because it is technically more challenging
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I mean the only people who would argue lifting is harder are those who dont do anything else.

Lifting is as easy as it gets when it comes to fitness, that's why its so popular. Crossfit is harder, boxing, thaiboxing, mma , wrestling is all much harder. And running for sure is much harder.
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>>35944157
I've played a lot of different sports and would say lifting is probably the easiest. combat sports are definitely the hardest imo.
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>>35942537
>jog at a slow as fuck pace, but consistently

Dude consider even slower pace, your Heart Rate is on zyzz-in-sauna level
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they're both hard in different ways

running is mostly a mental battle once you get form down
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>>35935169
I this bait?

The vast majority of trained individuals cannot run a sub 5 mile. Almost any non-fatty can quickly progress to a 6:30 mile in about a year but actual competitive sprint or endurance running requires talent, coaching, or both.
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>>35938922
nigga like gtfo I can lead a solid 13a, climbing is hard, but not hard as running or lifting.
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>>35935730
>more hard difficult.
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>>35937047
FUCKING
THIS
How can I fix this?...
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>>35947648
Run with better form.
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>>35935153
Running is more injury prone.
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>>35947768
According to who?
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>>35937958
THIS
H
I
S

I am a runner, who is in college xc/track. I have plans to run a 50-mile trail race next summer (which is harder than anything most people on /fit/ will ever do). I have the utmost respect for other athletes and competitive lifters, whose disciplines require different strengths and skills. But the average gymbro is a fucking joke. Yes, you are all bigger than me. No, I am not impressed. No, you do not work harder than me.
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>mfw I run among trees on a sunny day, pumping fresh air into my lungs. Feels good to be free.

Meanwhile, lifters are sweating next to other smelly roiders, envious of their gains and trying to impress orange tanned Stacies.
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>>35934863
It's more boring, not harder
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So many rustled jimmies.

It depends on the individual and what you're trying to do. I'm a runner, my body and mind have always found it easier to do.

Lifting progress is slow and the process is more daunting.

Does that mean running is easier? For me, but i've been running for longer so take that for what its worth.

Its good for your heart and longevity life. If you think its bad for your joints you're doing it wrong. Similar to how lifting will fuck you up if you don't do it correctly.
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>>35935710
No. where the fuck did you ever hear that?
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I honestly find running to be really fucking boring.

I mean, I still do it, it's just really boring.

Don't give me that 'runners high' mumbo jumbo, I get it, but the 'high' I get from lifting weights is magnitudes better.

Honestly, I think Swimming is the superior cardio-sport.
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Swimming is harder than running tbqhwymf
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>>35947777
Running related injury: 10 injuries por 1000 hours.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24287220
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>>35948066
I think sprinting/intervalls is as fun as lifting, but longer monotone jogging is not my thing eithr.
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Lifting is hard and rewarding, it's enjoyable.
Cardio is stressful and sucks, you do it to not die.
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>>35948191
>>>35947777
>Running related injury: 10 injuries por 1000 hours.
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24287220

191 person sample size. Severity of the injury? Not a very convincing study there.
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>>35934863
Sprinting is.

Running isn't shit.
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>>35943761
>biking is superior
Except when you burst a tire bombing a hill and cripple yourself. Happened to a cyclist near me.
With biking and cycling, you have to shell out cash every few weeks for new tires or else risk dying. Running doesn't have this problem.
>b-but just don't ride fast
Might as well ride a unicycle then.
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>>35935969
this
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>>35938130
>implying he's just running
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/running-addicts-warned-not-to-try-anything-pleasant-2015051998401
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Serious question how much cardio should I do if I'm lifting 6 days a weak for an hour and a half? Currently cutting.
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Depends how much you way desu
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>>35934863
why the fuck would i wanna run?
everyone who's gotten into running needed hip replacement surgeries by the time they were 50
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>>35948828
natty or nah?
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>>35936123
Training for the Zumbro 100 mile right now. On target to break 24 hours if I don't fuck up more than five times. I want to join the 1000lb club, and for me that will he harder than finishing. Shit's hard, man. Ultrarunning, you just have to plan your food and keep putting one foot in front of the other.
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>>35948828
Natty, but going into my 3rd month of ec stack. I just wanna be like 12% bf already.
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>>35934863
Running is much harder when you're lifting
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>>35937876
Literally the most retarded post I've seen today.
This have to be bait.
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>>35934863
Eventually running gets easier.
Unless your going for PR's for competiton, running plateaus in difficulty.
Lifting is hard everytime. If it's not your not doing it right.
When people run they tend to stagnate, hell, I remember reading this article about a guy who ran 8 miles a day for over 7 years just for exercise. Tell me he didn't just zone out on his daily mobile meditation.
Look at a top tier runner, it's a skeleton.
Top tier lifter not so much.
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>>35935209
I definitely like running more. I did boxing for a bit but I didn't stick to it. Nothing beats the feeling of a summer night run.
https://www.nightnationrun.com
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For me it kind of depends what kind of running I'm doing.

I could run 5 miles at a steady pace and upon stopping I wouldn't feel out of breath, my legs would just be kinda tired. This is easier than lifting.

If I'm running up and down a football field at full tilt repeatedly I will feel fairly fucked and contemplate ending my life. This is harder than lifting.

Bear in mind though that I haven't moved any sick out of weight yet, I haven't even hit the 1,2,3,4 on my lifts yet so I don't know the level of difficulty on a truly heavy lift.
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>>35937047
:( I have shin splints at the moment
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>>35947648
Maybe it's your shoes and also ice it on and off for 10 minutes
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>>35950458
everything plataeus in difficulty. lifting is hard everytime because you can lift hard from 5 minutes of physical exertion on one body part, running requires runs ranging from easy to difficult. you used an example of a guy not knowing what he is doing, running the same distance everyday is retarded. doing ss everyday is retarded much less for years. what matters about what the body looks like, what relevance is there? smolov is easier than 400 repeats reeeeee fuck you
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>>35934863
Not really. Just requires more time. I'd rather burn calories while I sleep.
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>>35937582
>pic

Totally agree. A lot of times when I run I just want to stop and it's only half way through my normal run. It's not till after the 4th mile I'm on cruise control.
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>>35935203
no way, running is definitely slow through fast if you go long and short. meanwhile lifting isnt even lighter until much much heavier.
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>>35935190
ayy lmao
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>>35934863
Can we all agree that string is much longer than yarn?
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>>35939838

I did just start running about a month or so ago. So I don't have solid foundations yet. I hope to get to 20 minutes in a few months
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>>35937958
You have to realise that /fit consists of 90% basement dwellers or former fatties who never in their lives have done anything remotely sportive and really think lifting and running are hard.
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Also its laughable that I used to come to /fit for some lifting advice but didn't realise that these are the very same people who think "running" is hard.
>Running
>Hard
Pick ..... I don't even
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>>35935169
found the obese powerlifter
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>>35935190
This is more accurate than>>35935169
How many instagram hashtags are about jogging and how many about #beastmode
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>>35954165

I run 10km in 43 minutes and I still feel slow as hell
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