>bread as the biggest diet staple
Is this a meme?
this is the most optimal triangle breh for high test
>>35701075
>listening to the FDA's old pyramid that even they don't preach anymore
Most grains contain phytotoxins and are metabolically stressing. White rice, table sugar, honey, syrups, potatoes, fruits and fruit juices are much better.
>>35701092
>diet soda
>no potatoes
>no beans
Some of this was on point, but the rest is on dat dere broscience
>>35701075
this is old as fuck
>>35701075
Been a meme since 1990 breh
>tfw memorized the food pyramid since childhood
>tfw always finish my bowl of rice
>tfw childhood obesity no matter how hard I play basketball
>>35701075
Yes
>>35701075
As it's original definition yes
>>35701075
you need carbs, maybe not you personally, but i digress
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/12/081211112014.htm
fructose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRVXz0ft5s
>>35701092
think you mean low test, keto drops both insulin and igf-1 which stimulate test synthesis and secretion
Mediterranean diet is the most solid diet plan.
>high protein
>high monounsaturated fat
>high complex carbs
>>35704196
>Grains (mostly whole)
Literally the staple of Italian diet is pasta, and it's not made from whole wheat.
>>35704214
there is whole grain pasta available.
>>35701241
Assuming you get plenty of water in a day, why is diet soda bad? (gut bacteria studies?)
>>35704216
Lucky Charms are whole grain too
>>35701092
>Falling for the keto meme
Enjoy you heart attack
>>35704253
Enjoy being a fat fuck.
>>35704216
Yes, it's available.
But Italians don't eat it.
IMO calling a diet "mediterranean" doesn't make sense if it isn't what people there actually eat.
>>35704238
Fuck studies. Just try drinking a lot of it every day for a week, then replace it with water for a week.
You'll notice the difference. Diet soda is fucking poison.
>>35704268
this is what ketards actually believe
>>35704268
>You're either on keto or you're fat
>>35701181
>hurr
>>35701075
Oats bra, oats.
>>35701092
I saw the keto meme start from nothing more than a few posts on reddit and now it's a major thing and arguably bigger than the atkins diet.
It blows my fucking mind that people fall for it. I'm diabetic and so I learned the dangers and problems of ketosis and why I should always avoid it more than a decade ago. Yet people are making up a diet and throwing "caveman" memes at it with the name "keto" so people think it's actually based on valid science. It isn't. Ketosis is damaging, destructive and ultimately bad, attempting to generate it with diet is nothing short of retarded unless you're epileptic and REALLY understand what you're doing.
Fortunately 99% of people on a keto diet will never reach ketosis, but they're still put themselves at the same risks as an atkins diet would.
Wholegrains are not evil.
Sugars are not evil and exist in most of the foods you eat.
Wholegrain breads are fucking great for you, including rye.
Most root vegetable are great, especially beetroot which is jam packed with sugar.
Dairy has some conflicting issues to consider depending on what you want your body to do, but is also very good for you from the right sources (Kefir, yoghurts, cottage creams, sour creams, plant milks, etc)
Legumes and beans are great for you.
In short, keto diets are at best stupid and pointless and at worst dangerous as fuck.
and while I'm posting in this thread, following an image on the internet or on a poster for what to base your diet on is ridiculous and equally stupid. Base what you eat on what's good for you and what your body needs instead, the information is out there.
>>35704214
>Literally the staple of Italian diet is pasta, and it's not made from whole wheat.
Don't talk nonsense. Almost all the pasta I ate in Italy was multigrain or wholegrain. They, and the med, eat a lot less refined carbs than the rest of the world. Don't spout shit.
![whole-grain-bread-1497850[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wh0Jdhx.jpg "whole-grain-bread-1497850[1].jpg")
>>35701075
It's meant to be whole grain bread, not white bread. That's been a diet staple for people for hundreds of years.
>>35707645
You. I like you.
>>35704196
This, with a few modifications
http://nutritionfacts.org/video/improving-on-the-mediterranean-diet/
I don't know if you could say the med diet is inherently high protein though. There's not much meat, not much dairy, mostly whole grains and vegetables
>>35707674
Nice b8 Burgerm8
>>35701181
>>35704152
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