Is taking steroids for being "shredded" the manchildness of the fitness world?
I think it's obvious.
Better watch them kidney's though
How shit is that bicep vein lol worst bi vein genetics ever
Ive thought about it because of how much gains i lose when i get stupid shredded
>>35415067
Post yours if yours are even visible
>roiding to look like a bag of smashed arseholes
>>35414986
I fucking love JM
>>35414986
>roids
>has the worlds smallest shoulders
literally fucking how
how?!?
how is that possible?
>>35416458
>>35416402
JM pls go.
we all know it's you
you literally never leave this board.
About what % of roid gains do you retain when you are finished your first cycle and dont cycle again?
>>35416462
He doesn't look like he lifts at all if not flexing with a pump under perfect top-down lightning.
>>35416470
not JM at all hes hilarious and all you DYEL fags get crazy jelly and insecure whenever he and MasTest troll you
It's an embarrassment how many people roid, they think they understand what they are doing but they are going to face a landslide of complications as they get older
What is heart wrenching is seeing people literally trolled into taking roids from the roid general on here.
It's understandable in the sense of athletes taking roids for a competitive edge, but taking it for pure aesthetics? It's fucking beyond me. I also really believe people who are natural and big from lifting for a few years just look better than that of someone with a roided up look.
>>35416492
Most if you eat decent and you havent blown past your natty limit (which is damn near impossible first cycle)
>>35416519
hes probably offcycle or bulkmode, so what?
>>35416492
>and dont cycle again?
lmao then why bother
>>35416559
>big from lifting for a few years
>landslide of complications as they get older
Top kek you natty idiot.
real JM checking in
what's going on here bitches?
>>35416577
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/anabolic-steroid-abuse/what-are-health-consequences-steroid-abuse
http://www.alphanet.org/faqs/q-what-are-the-side-effects-of-long-term-steroid-use/
http://medshadow.org/steroids/steroids-resources/
http://www.cesar.umd.edu/cesar/drugs/steroids.asp
I'll wait for your response which will include a screencap of someone on 4chan saying that roids are good for you and have no negative effects long term
>>35414986
If you aren't a professional athlete, then yes. It's what people do when they were not able to succeed with their career/relationships/skills etc.
>>35416519
and yet i would make you look like a twink bitch if you were next to me in that pic
>>35416551
>being jelly of some sad autists that take roids just to post pictures of themselves online
if they were winning BB comps i'd understand, but looking like a literal veiny chode just to shitpost?
What kind of roids does scooby take?
>>35416577
>>35416614
Lol gg anon.
>>35416607
Some mirin and some skelly twigs being jelly thats all
>>35416648
Hi JM! Are you aesthetic enough for a white girl yet?
>>35416627
you mad
>>35416663
I aint jm, but yes is the answer
>>35416664
I really do feel sorry for you
>>35416676
>all posts 1 minute apart
Fucking lol
>>35416607
Pfft, you think blocking out your face will stop us from finding out what you really look like? Think again chum.
>>35414986
trying to build an impressive physique without roids is being an ignorant child
>>35416713
>mad jm gets mires
Stay mad skelly
>>35416614
>>35416646
>drug abuse
>When taken for prolonged periods, they can turn off steroid production by the adrenal glands and/or turn off the signal to make steroids by the pituitary gland, and can cause increased appetite, weight gain, deposition of fat in specific locations (widow’s hump, moon faces), loss of calcium from bone, accentuation or appearance of diabetes, cataracts, accentuation or appearance of high blood pressure, avascular necrosis of bone (death of bone due to loss of blood supply), increased susceptibility to infection, appearance of infection caused by organisms that normally don’t lead to infection (opportunistic infection), activation of dormant infections (such as TB), development of so-called steroid psychosis, steroid myopathy (loss of muscle tissue and muscle strength), ulcers of the stomach and duodenum, poor wound healing, low potassium, bruising, thinning of skin, changes in menstrual cycle, acne, hair growth, anxiety, and insomnia.
Fucking LOL
>http://medshadow.org/steroids/steroids-resources/
Literally nothing there matters or is true for the normal user
>Liver disease or liver cancer
>Development of breasts
>Shrinking of the testicles
All preventable
You guys are scared little pussies, thats all it comes down to.
>>35416783
totally bro you're right, disregard research from universities and government studies; clearly our boys on /fit/ and the roid general know better. roiding is perfectly healthy!
>>35416614
>drugabuse.gov
>.gov
Kek. That wouldn't happen to be the same government that banned them, right?
>>35416783
Even if it didn't Harm you the roid look is fucking disgusting
>Not lifting for 5 years and giving it your all and reaching your natty max
>not going for at least 1-2 cycles to smash that max and look good as fuck
I haven't even cycled yet, but if you aren't going to roid to get that fucking A++ physique and pull some mad pussy, what's the fucking point of lifting?
>>35416813
I never said perfectly healthy faggot... anything can be terrible for you if you're an idiot.
One of the longterm "risks" was AIDS. Fucking AIDS.
>durrr quick bro, lemme use your needle
Idiots deserve problems
>>35416607
mirin
You guys do realize that someone just has to save the pictures of JM that always gets posted and put in JM in the name field then you can pretend to be him.
At least MasTest uses a tripcode.
>>35416891
>still believes JM exists
Do u also do decline bench?
>>35414986
>Competition at the clubs
>Competing to take home a greasy stupid club slut
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>35416891
That would never work
>>35416921
>>35416909
I do it politely.
Mirin hard
>>35414986
>making it
>using illegal drugs because you cant make it alone
is this even a question?
>>35416957
>Mirin
>Not sucking dick desu senpai
>>35416664
Do you take the measuring tape with you to clubs? Does that get all the pussi-i wet? Taking notes here, pls respond
>>35416519
hahahah he looks like a fucking dad bod
>>35414986
Lmao let people do what they want man, if they want to roid because they dont find natty physiques impressive let them roid, they arent harming you, and same goes for the roiding guys, if natties find their progress good enough there's no reason so try and convince them to do steroids by saying "lol stay small you natty faggot"
>>35414986
I honestly don't care about steroids. I mean, it is a little childish to use gear just for pure aesthetics. But, as I said before, I don't really care.
What I do care about it is when roiders make it seem as if roids are the only option and/or roiders who look over the dangers.
One of my family members has almost always been on roids since I can remember. He was always angry and pissed off. He'd often give people the finger on the road for things he caused, and he would cause scenes when cursing people out in public (sometimes cursing me out). He always had negative things to say about everyone he met. Also when he was off cycles, he'd always be crying. He also deluded himself into thinking that literally every dude with a good physique was on roids, and that he himself had a good one. He also expected the males in the family to go on roids once they reached the age, and would subtly hint that they are pussies if they didn't.
Witnessing firsthand the effects of roids on the psyche eternally turned me off to them.
>>35416664
its sad that you had to roid to get 18 inch biceps
>>35414986
NO DELTS NEVER WILL BE BOSS FOR LIFE MODE
10 YEARS OF SHIT AND DRUGS WERE HIS SALVATION..HAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT A FAGGOT
>>35414986
let's be real the body is great. They fact of the matter is that there's still a manchild behind that exterior that hasn't developed mentally through the years the same as someone who actually spent the time to do that shit naturally.
>inb4 but i wanna be leeeaan
intermittent fasting nigga.
>>35416844
>>35416822
excellent retort to every one of those sources bro
>>35416607
What's wrong with his delts?
They look fine to me.
This whole thread
>>35416607
Is that an abbo?
>>35417336
Sorry forgot trip
I lifted natty for 4 and a half years. The thing I ALWAYS hated hearing especially on forums was how natural training was a joke. I defended it to the end
However now after jumping on I can see why everyone says it was a joke, it really can't compare at all. If I had the knowledge I do now and went back in time I would start roiding after year one desu.
>>35417366
Elaborate because I feel like roids are a joke too unless you're a professional. Do you have a career?
>>35417390
In bodybuilding? Of course not lol. But like many people here I wanted a sickass looking body. Fantasized about being big lean im fucking zyzz brah ect. and all that good stuff and I knew deep down that you really can't look like that unless you're genetic elite or take roids. I trashed on roids hard just like most people in this thread are doing but once getting on you realize they're not a big deal at all.
xd
>>35417432
Meh I have more important aspects in my life than looking shredded brah. Still lift though. It's just a hobby.
Isn't it apparent most roiders have severe body disorders and are extremely narcissistic. Sounds pretty manchildish to me. If you're a top tier athlete being payed millions of dollars to entertain people with crazy athleticism, then fuark yeah, /fraud/ away.
>>35414986
>Is taking steroids for being "shredded" the manchildness of the fitness world?
Why would it be? The goal is looking good, there are objectively easier ways to achieve it. I can also be dangerous, but it doesn't make it the manchildness of the fitness world.
>>35414986
steroids are for guys with small dick syndrome
on the bright side, it makes their balls small to match their dick.
>>35417515
Brah I understand completely. On the flip side, something I hate that happens on a lot of steroid forums is some people talk about how lifting natural is a waste of time and you can only build a good body by juicing up ect. A lot of them are delusional and think it's either roids or don't lift at all. Keep at it man!
>>35417562
>"I can also be dangerous"
It can also be dangerous.
>>35417576
Rich, plz go.
>>35416607
Where are your delts bro?
>>35416635
10,000 cc fresh semen daily
>>35417576
There are so many awesome guys who take steroids. World Record holders, the guy who wrote your favorite book, god like physiques, etc... are all on steroids. Eric Spotto, Ed Coan, Kirk Kowalski, Louiee Simmons, probably Jim Wendler, Matt Kroc (even though he's not a men anymore), Mark Bell, Scott Mendelssohn, and I think even Mark Rippertoe got some gear back in the days.
>>35417583
I understand the using steroids will obviously give you a WAY better physique, but like you said, the people that think there is no point in lifting without using steroids and convincing everyone to take drugs is just a bit ridiculous to me. I know i'll never look as good as you but if my goal is just to look a bit better for normal people (not body builders) i dont see why i should be teased at staying natty.
>>35417366
You have any pictures at your "natty max" vs now by any chance? It seems interesting to see some differences between whats attainable and what isnt!
>>35417671
and?
enjoy your premature death.
I hear steroids did good things for all those wrestlers dying at the age of 50.
>>35417671
There's no probably about Wendler. He hasn't come out yelling that he was on gear, but when it comes up he's dropped it into the conversation as no big deal.
>>35417583
Yeah there are so many trolls on here and some people are just kids asking for advice.
>>35416402
JM pls
>>35417676
How do you want to look just a bit better if you could achieve greatness? Your main concern might be the side effects and I understand, but there are no moral values that would hold people from using drugs to enhance their physique if they want too, unless they are lying about it so they can sell products or win competitions. Steroids enhance performance, so do helmets in a football match.
>>35417671
>I think even Mark Rippertoe got some gear back in the days
Yeah probably.
>>35417755
That isn't him though.
Pls stop posting this picture people.
Rip's never even really done alot of bicep work.
>>35417694
Drinking alcohol? Enjoy possibly dying in a car accident. Sitting in a chair? Enjoy your possibly fucking up your posture. Steroids can possibly kill, but multivitamins can possibly kill you as well. Most anabolic steroids get a bad reputation because they're illegal and are often times misused.
>>35417820
ok.
you know more than doctors. and people using steroids for long periods of time are not dying.
have fun.
>>35416664
i have 17inch fatceps
>>35417741
I know that, and im agreeing with you, there's nothing wrong with doing steroids if its your kind of thing then go for it, but its just that getting a super shredded or great /fit/ standard body isnt really a goal for me, and i've been barley lifting a year, I want to lift naturally just to see whats possible and what isnt, its more of a personal goal and as beta as it sounds, yes perhaps i want a better body since i use to be really unfit and i wanted better luck with women, i respect roiders and have no problem with them, I'm obviously not trying to argue, it's just there is no REAL reason for me to use it at this time.
>>35417755
That's not him, that picture is not Mark Rippertoe. I don't know much about him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he admitted that he took some test injections back in his days.
>>35416519
>taking roids
>still looking like shit
this amuses me
>>35417882
roid abusers all get a fat gut
>>35417846
Doctors don't actually say that. The government doesn't allow tests with anabolic steroids. Also, if wrestlers are dying because of steroids, I know a guy who's actually treating his HIV with anabolic steroids. Michael Mooney, Google his name.
>>35417934
He's treating some of the symptoms of HIV with anabolics. He's not actually treating the underlying condition.
Fuck all of you. You're all just jelly of my 18 inch bis you fucking permavirgins.
>>35417971
So what? He has prolonged his time.
>>35418119
No, he hasn't (although he probably has improved his quality of life during much of that time). The muscle wastage isn't what kills you with HIV - its the immune damage and anabolics do not help that.
>>35418148
Anabolic steroids do more than just increasing work capacity and building muscle. He's taking testosterone, I guess, so it have probably improved his imune system.
>>35417690
Please this.
>>35418051
roids are for faggots who want a shortcut.
>>35417755
>that's roger estep!
>>35416622
Maybe you should lift as well as roid?
>>35414986
he looks like a kangaroo
>>35417798
>>35417875
>le epic that isn't mark Rippetoe may may
>>35418969
When did it become a meme? Are people ironically using it so other people say it's not Rippertoe.
>>35418969
k i l l
y o u r s e l f
>>35416837
Because there is more to life than "pulling some mad pussy". Health for example
>>35416837
Living healthier?
Are there seriously people who only lift for pussy? That's really fucking sad.
its literally
all
face
and
height.
>>35419042
Learn to google dyel.
>>35419284
It's all bodyfat
You can be of average height with low enough bodyfat and you still get the same halo effect
>>35419326
no it's not rofl.
it's 100% face and height
bodyfat is just a footnote.
do you actually think girls are like
> oh yeah becky anon was really ugly until he got to 7.3222222% bodyfat and then he got really hot.
nobody cares unless you're fat or cut as fuck i.e. full 6 pack.
if you aren't born handsome & tall you can fuck with your bodyfat + muscles all you want but it wont ever make a difference.
>>35419339
Shh, let the manlets play.
>>35419339
Your bodyfat level basically determines your facial aesthetics
You will improve your overall attractiveness several points by lowering your bodyfat
>>35419373
.. no it doesn't .. at all.
i'm actually perplexed you think bodyfat has that much of an influence on facial aesthetics.
i'm not even sure how this meme got started.
facial aesthetics is 100% genetics + not being obese.
you can accentuate your bone structure by being leaner, but you're still handsome even if you're not low bodyfat.
>>35417846
>you know more than doctors
Tip top kek.
>trusting someone because they have an expensive piece of paper
I could sell you my shit and you'd buy it without blinking.
>>35416402
JM pls
>>35419339
>saying it's all face and height
>average population of /fit/ user base is 6ft+
>most common threads are tfwnogf and how getting shredded will fix all their problems
Think harder.
>>35419552
> face and height
> face
> and
> height
> F A C E
its like you try to be dumb my niga baka desu senpai
>>35419398
you're the special kind of retard that doesn't know he's a retard
>>35419561
think you meant to reply to >>35419373
it's ok though.
or are you actually trying to argue body fat is more important than BONE STRUCTURE for FACIAL AESTHETICS.
lmao.
>>35419552
So you legitimately think, getting a "good body" will make up for ugly face? lmao We arent talking about going from fat to fit, we are talking about someone who isnt too fat, isnt too skinny, who could never get girls before, and now got some what of a decent body. You REALLY think they are gonna pull that much more pussy?
