Why does nobody on /fit run?
The CDC says you should be running 75 minutes a week at least.
http://www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/adults/
kills gains
>run 5 miles daily
>work ectremely physical job
>chainsmoke cigarettes, weed, and drink daily
Such is life
running is shit for your knees
cycling is better
>>35384802
>chainsmoke cigarettes, weed, and drink daily
why are you even here you enormous faggot?
>>35384783
I run 30 miles a week m8y I don't know what you're talking about
>>35384817
Enjoy your hemorrhoids
>>35384783
They only use running/jogging as an example, they're not saying you need to *run* 75 mins a week, you just need 75 mins of "vigorous-intensity aerobic activity". Which means you could run, but you could also swim, cycle, jump rope, dance, do circuit training, whatever else.
speaking of running, haven't seen endorphin in a while. did he run himself into the grave?
>>35384817
I don't want erectile dysfunction. I bought a split seat but I'm still iffy about riding a lot of miles.
>>35384848
OP here,
Yes, /fit seems to be anti-cardio in general though.
So I'm currently doing ss and I'm planning on starting c25k. Is this a good idea
>>35384861
Cardio kills gains
>mfw
>>35384881
And failing to do cardio is a good way to die young...
>>35384817
Humans are animals that evolved the ability to run long distances to follow their prey. Running is only bad for your knees if you run incorrectly.
>>35384861
Ya got me there. Personally, I do cardio everyday of the week (not fat, I just really like it). /fit/ hates cardio because they think it genuinely destroys muscle mass and it'll cut down their 1000+ calorie surplus, thus resulting in less gains. All it takes is one person that thinks more cals = more gains indefinitely, and more physical activity = less cals = less gains posting frequently enough that newfags see it and think it's true. There's a lot of terrible cycles of broscience misinformation here.
I do 6 miles a week.
Nothing has gotten my calves bigger than running. Especially when you include hill climbs in the workout.
That thing about it killing gains is rubbish, your appetite will compensate and then some.
>>35384900
>Humans are animals that evolved the ability to walk long distances to follow their prey.
ftfy
Why would I waste calories on running when I could use them building muscle.
>>35384900
>Humans are animals that evolved the ability to run long distances to follow their prey
I want this meme to die. A few outliers don't make the rule.
Run three miles three times a week, and walk three miles three times a week on the other days. Working my way up to having the stamina to hopefully run a marathon. Long way to go though
does cardio actually kill gains though?
>>35384988
>cardio kills gains
I run 15miles a week and never deadlifted heavier or had moar juicy curl bro arms
>>35384988
No.
RUNNING BENEFITS
>free
>actually makes you /fit/ and healthy
>keeps you lean during a bulk
>builds calves (10x more effective than retarded ass calf raises); gives you that "toned" look
>shirtless outside=mires
>opportunity to flirt with cardio qts
>LISS is relaxing as fuck and only takes 30-45 mins
>post-cardio fap feels as good as post-squat session fap i.e. amazing
Man I'm excited to go run tomorrow morning
>>35384783
I run 20-30mins after each lifting session. And yes it's awesome for your aesthetics, health and mood.
The reasons why nobody on /fit/ runs:
>they think it kills gains, which is pure autism bullshit. Burned 500kcal on the threadmill? Eat an extra 500kcal if you're worried that much about gains
>cardio is more ''physically painful'' and boring than lifting
>they think runner's high is a myth and don't believe the mental benefits from cardio
>/fit/ doesn't have a playlist strickly for cardio in their mp3 players. I only listen to rap music. All day everyday for the last 20 years of my life. Yet... I need some sort of techno music to get me running, or anything with more energy than rap music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQZDbBGBJsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uur0g9Hb5wI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM_8PiSMpTs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et17cLufrNs
>>35384783
It's cold out and I can't afford a treadmill at this juncture. I do power masturbation instead.
>>35384783
Because as many others have said in this thread, the majority of /fit/ incorrectly believes it to be bad.
Personally, I just hate the first five minutes, but once I'm past that I can keep going for miles and miles. It helps to just shut my brain off and do it instead of thinking about it. I've been incorporating it more into my lifting days as well so I get used to just running in general.
Enjoy your fucked up knees guys
/fit/ is ignorant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiHHOL3pH-I
>>35384830
I like to workout
>>35384783
When the food pyramid is this how can anyone take the government seriously
does anyone else think elliptical machines are for pussies that need to space gallop instead of actually running like humans are supposed to?
>>35384968
it was a light jog
>>35385204
Oh yeah, how do you deal with quad dominance huh?
How weak are your hamstrings and glutes?
>>35385180
>carbs on bottom
Jeez no wonder americans are all fat
>>35385232
quit making excuses to not run faggot
>>35384783
I prefer swimming
doing 1.5-2k three days a week
Week 5d3 on couch to 5k reporting in
>>35385232
Idk what you're trying to say if you're defending actual running or the elliptical, but this is the only pic I have of my legs. My hams and glutes are tip top, I mean like I lift too ffs no imbalances but thanks
>>35384988
Cardio shows how much muscle you really have. Most on here are fat bodies. O...gains bruh im totally bulking up... No you idiots are just getting fat. Do cardio lose the body fat. You'll be surprised how little muscle most of these bulky fat dudes actually have.
>>35385269
I've been eating upwards of 3000 calories a day for the past six months. A large portion comes from grains. I weigh 160.
Why are carbs bad for a physically active person?
Not able to yet. I can only run short distances right now, but I'm working at it.
>>35385513
How short we talking?
>>35385532
About a half mile.
>>35384854
If your dick is going numb then your fit is off. Professional riders and long-time touring enthusiasts aren't just sucking it up and living with limp dicks, they're adjusting their shit properly so that it doesn't fuck them up.
>>35385072
>LISS
>only takes 30-45 mins
No wonder it's relaxing as fuck for a lazy shit like you. It's not LISS until you go beyond 2 hours.
>>35384861
>>35384904
I've been on /fit/ since '07. "Cardio kills gains" was ALWAYS a meme, and serious opinions always lauded HIIT as great for heart-health and muscle-building hormones alike.
It's true that /fit/izens in general don't really do cardio much, but that's not out of any genuine belief that it is bad. /fit/izens don't do cardio because a (serious, intense enough to actually accomplish something) cardio session takes way more commitment and will than a lifting one by a long shot to see it through. And since a /fit/izen can't really take himself seriously half-assing a workout with some sorry horseshit like 15 minutes of light jogging, the choice is *always* between either running hard sprints or just not bothering and focusing on lifting alone.
>>35384783
The cdc has its head permanently lodged up its own ass
And quite a lot of /fit/ runs, the troop was hardly successful and those that were raised quite key learned to start doing so after seeing the results of not running
>>35385594
Nigga what are you on about? Even when I ran cross country I didn't run for two fucking hours
>>35384933
>run but don't lift
>my body looks terrible, except my calves, which are sculpted and glorious
Alas.
>>35384783
I run 10k a few times a week, there is a half marathon i would like to do in the current year.
>not running
>>35384836
This is why you never manage to bulk, desu
>>35384861
That's part meme and part backlash against the over the top cardio shilling that took place for decades.
show me your 5k stats brehs
race was realy hilly with sandy ground
>>35384783
>Post on /fit about running 80-90 miles a week
>Wait for the replies to roll in telling me to enjoy my artificial knees
CDC is government. Government wants to keep you a weak docile pleb. Running is for faggots
>>35385811
Gaining weight steadily f a m it just takes time and I don't pack on fat
That's the recipe for successful permabulk, no?
>>35385875
Good point, but you've mentioned stalling progress?
>>35384988
No.
My overall caloric gain has ALWAYS increased when I added cardio into my life.
For example:
> just lifting
200 cal burn + 2500 cal intake per day
> lifting and cardio
600 cal burn + 3100 cal intake per day
I swear this is the truth, it's like the cardio stress stimulates my body to eat more, even beyond the burn of the cardio.
plus cardio burns fat. So as long as my diet is protein based, the result is a more fit and muscular body.
>>35385884
Very slowed, but that's bound to happen. I switched up my routine and will go back in 8 weeks to see if I can push it up again
>>35384988
Only if you don't eat extra calories to keep yourself in surplus
/fit/ gonna /fit/
>>35385072
>>post-cardio fap feels as good as post-squat session fap i.e. amazing
Seriously, this. What's even lovelier is that the leg stamina cardio brings makes for FANTASTIC sex.
>You do actually take advantage of your gains to fuck bitches, right, Anon?
i can run 2 miles in 13:30 just by doing strength training. there are just about no benefits to being in better condition cardio-wise so why would i run?
lately ive done HIIT once a week though to increase my work capacity and help recovery but it's not a huge, important thing.
Not doing HIIT,
Have fun ruining your knees for literally no benefit beyond run really slow for really far distances. aka useless
>>35384783
Question to the runners here
last week i did a 10km run
two days later i did a 7km run
then rested for a day and went running again but this time i had to stop after 3km because my feet were hurting so bad,
was this overtraining?
Just ran 5k for the first time lads
Not impressive by any means but it is a far cry from my former fat, smoker self
>>35385552
I started with 400m as my max , dont worry brah, youll get there eventually
Try c25k if you find yourself plateauing
>>35384977
It's true though. Long distance running is the one thing that we are best at, of all animals. There are animals which are faster, stronger etc, but no animal has that much endurance.
>>35385078
I have a rap playlists for cardio, but I agree, cardio is great overall
>>35384783
kill test, ruin joints. you should only run for competition or sometime before comp in my opinion
>>35386375
No. Really doubt you can overtrain on so little.
Describe your pain.
The sole of my right foot starts hurting real bad after 10 minutes of running, midfoot.
Is this a shoe issue? I've had this problem before when I was marching 40km a day.
>>35386460
Same shoes you wore for 40k/day they are probably dead and need replacing. Could be shoes, socks, posture...
>>35386468
I wore proper hiking boots when I was doing the 40.
I'll look into new running shoes I guess.
>>35386479
Might not be the problem. But if you have 300 miles on those running shoes and you now starts to have problem with them, that is a plausible cause.
>>35386439
run 3 times a week, 2 shorter runs (6-8km) and one long run (10+km)
Been running for 5 months now, never had this happen
Might be my shoes getting worn out tho
>start jogging
>out of breath real fast
>quick breathing from mouth
>throat starts aching in a weird way, all the way inside
>saliva forms thick jelly at my throat
>side gut starts hurting at every step
Fuck I hate running.
194cm, 95kg
>>35386488
>>35386490
Shoe recommendations? Low-ish budget
>>35386496
I use new balance but I have fucked-up feet, they are the only one I know that have large ones (4E) and high arch.
Most of the shoes are good out there.
Is running at a beach better or worse if I'm inexperienced with running? What pace?
I live next to a small one.
Fuck extended running, I can do it with 15 mins of HIIT
Find yourself a 100m track, and jog slowly to one end, then sprint back, repeat.
>>35386460
Man you got a stress fracture. Go see a doctor, seriously. I had it too and it didn't bother much but every now and then and I had exact same symptoms.
Any chance that you were in a Finnish army? Cause it sounds like so.
I run 3 times a week 7 miles which takes me an hour. Every other weekend I run a 13 miler. I'm 6' 190 pounds if that matters.
I run 3km 3 times a week (that's light recovering cardio, not an exercise really) and I do HIIT twice, one uphill running session too.
The reason why /fit/ doesn't run is cause it feels horrible before you get some proper cardio gains. For real, I used to be like that. Lifting a lot but cardio just killed me so minimized it. Started doing some serious cardio and I feel so much better nowadays, feels better than any lifting session, weirdly enough.
>>35386561
No I did it voluntarily.
I read about stress fractures, boy I really hope it's not that.
Thanks though, I'll get my foot x-rayd
>>35384783
I absolutely hate running so I've been doing some long distance walks to lose a few pounds as I'm recovering fatass. Since then I seem to have adapted and the walks take much more time to produce the result they once did and I'm thinking about picking up the pace. So here's my question, does running become more enjoyable once you force yourself through the first couple of runs? Also, would appreciate some pointers about running technique.
>>35386594
>So here's my question, does running become more enjoyable once you force yourself through the first couple of runs?
Yes, absolutely.
>>35384844
How do people handle the seat of a stationary bike? I had to do 20 minutes on one as part of gym induction and it was so uncomfortable that I havent touched it since.
>>35386565
Dumb heel striking roastie
>>35385452
> physically active
> standard American
Pick one
>>35386652
Sup maggots at I'm at 4k now at a 6 min km pace. I gotta say. Squatting heavy really helped my running as I went in with pretty good endurance I would say. Also what shoes do you guys recommend? I have some Nike reax or something like that and they have this raised heel and I think they force me to heel strike and I heard that's kinda bad. Pic related
>>35386615
>How do people handle the seat of a stationary bike?
by not being fat
>>35386666
Alot of physics working in that pic m8
>>35384783
Jacks up cortisol, shit for aesthetics
>In army
>Do PT in the morning
>Usualy a loaded march or battle PT
>Run on my lunch break
>After work drive to the gym for weights
>No gains lost
I fuck for a minimum of 120 minutes a week so I'm good on cardio
>>35384975
Eat more
>>35384866
NO.
Depending on how much running you're doing, best case scenario, you interfere with your gains a bit and won't be progressing on squats/deadlifts as quickly. Worst case scenario, you seriously injured your legs, which is what you want to avoid.
I would not run and lift heavy in the same day. Running on legs tired from squatting is dangerous and vice versa. Depending on the volume, squatting heavy 3x a week + training for running, you very likely won't be able to recover, depending on how hard you train running. I'd only do SS 2x a week and focus on running. Be careful of adding weight to the bar, you can if you can handle it. But if you don't make any progress, don't fret, although you very well may still depending on your age (you're on 4chan so I assume you're like 12, so you'll be fine, especially if you eat enough). Training 2x a week will at least maintain the gains you've made on SS.
Running feels "heavy". I'm not out of breath, I'm not fat, I lift frequently, but still it feels quite horrible. I see people running faster than me and it looks light and efortless. Does this happen to everyone or does they have this terrible feeling of wanting to quit and die as I do when I jog?
I just have this weird weak feeling in my legs when I run. I can lift pretty decent weights but running is just not working for me.
It will become pleasurable, right? Cause if there
's no prize, I'm gonna cut back long distance cardio and do HIIT only.
>>35384783
distance running is bad for you (unless you're kenyan).
you should only do interval sprints
>>35388959
>distance running is bad for you (unless you're kenyan)
>source: my ass
>starving kenyans enjoy running in the desert and it's beneficial for them
>a 40 min~1 hr run @ 12 km/h is bad
>muh HIIT and only HIIT
Sometimes I wonder why I keep returning to this fucking cesspit.
>>35384817
> running is bad for your knees
That's because everyone runs with shit technique. If you run with proper technique your muscles take all of the impact rather than your joints.
> inb4 barefoot running
don't be a faggot
>>35388959
you fucking idiotic prick.
what next? breathing is bad for you?
>>35389150
you are right about the technique part, but why do you hate bf running?
>>35386525
>Is running at a beach better or worse if I'm inexperienced with running?
It's more difficult and it won't really help you in finding a good form. It's more demanding for sure. It may be easier on joints (assuming foreshore) but then again I'm not sure if it's that good for under-trained ankles; also you're likely going to run with a permanent degree of inclination (it may vary a lot depending on your beaches) and uneven terrain/occasional rocks or less sturdy sand can turn evil.
TL;DR "It depends"
>>35389207
It's one of those faddy things that people discover and say: "Oh, the system's been fucking me over. This was the reason I couldn't get fit. I'm gonna do this!" And then they injure themselves. Barefoot running is good in principle, it teaches you proper technique, but in reality you need a little bit of protection and shock absorption on the bottom of the foot; not much, minimal running shoes are ideal. It's shit but we have lost that toughness after wearing shoes for so long. It's fine on soft surfaces but on concrete you'll fuck your feet up.
>>35389150
>running technique
>>35384783
Hard on my joints, bad back. I go for 20 mile bicycle rides instead. Used to be 30 miles but my legs are too big so trying to shrink them a bit. Bicycle Mich easier on the joints, plus you can use it to get groceries etc. If necessary
Ight lads listen up.
Long distance running is great if you already have the cardio shape for it.
However, long distance running does kill gains if you don't match your meal timing and nutrition properly.
For an average person, HIIT cardio is the best. You can burn more calories and it's more manageable. However, once you are fit enough, LISS blows HIIT out of the water. For a decent runner a 10 mile run at like a 10 minute mile pace is a relaxing experience, it's practically meditation for 45 mins. I can do that and burn 800 cals happily over doing like 15 minutes of HIIT cardio where I'm at deaths door to burn 400 cals.
For new guys, start with HIIT cardio, do it 3 times a week, then start to incorporate some LISS cardio. Learn how to properly pace, get good shoes, and learn how to run properly. Running long distance is fucking amazing guys, I can't explain to you how great it is, it's better than drugs once you can run without getting tired.
>>35389348
He's right though.
Most people who have knee problems are locking their knees intermittently.
Others who get ankle pain(very common) are heal striking.
You have to practice running with bent legs and properly flexing your foot against the ground, run softly.
There really is technique to it.
>>35389348
gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8
>>35389131
>>35389199
ya our bodies weren't made for all the distance running as much as for sprinting.
especially if you want muscle mass.
running 3-5 miles probably no big deal , but getting up toward half marathons has more wear and tear than its worth
Sprint interval > distance
>>35389365
thats interesting - switch off to LISS?
lots of sprinters seem to always have knee and joint issues tho.
but they are usually past 40.
>>35389510
Yeah ok, if you are a high level sprinter or runner who runs every day, youll have some joint issues.
Spoiler alert lads, guys who lift weights at any high level also have joint issues when they are older.
But yes, I think switch off to LISS as you get in shape.
I noticed that getting in shape with HIIT carried over.
So like my last cut, keep in mind I'm an ex fatty who never ever ran in his life, I start by doing HIIT 3 day, moderate intensity for 8 minutes and then maybe walking sometimes at night.
Then I worked up to basically HIIT 5 days per week moderate intensity.
Then I worked up to HIIIT high intensity for 15 minutes but 3 days a week and then 2 days of just walking on an incline for 30 minutes.
After 2 months of doing that, one day I was like hmm I'll run outside- ran 3 miles without stopping, never more than a mile in my life, within two weeks I was running 3.5-5 miles 3 days a week and doing HIIT 5 days a week, eventually(6 weeks) I was doing HIIT 3 days a week and running 8-15 miles per session 3 days a week and then faster 3-5 mile runs the other days.
Now im bulking and only run once every 2 weeks but still run about 5-8 miles each time without it being that much harder.
My point is that coming from HIIT I seemed like I had a lot of carry over
started running again two weeks ago to chase a cardiobunny, I'm down to 4:50 min/km now. I keep getting shin splits due to inflexible calves and heel striking, but it is getting better
>>35386375
Sounds like inappropriate foot wear or poor form.
>>35385428
>he thinks cardio exposes muscle
>he thinks cardio is needed to lose fat
>2015
>not knowing how to diet 101
Goddamn son you're fucking retarded.
>>35390605
The gods of cutting aka combat sport athletes use cardio to cut.
>>35385863
Haven't been that fast in years, unfortunately.
Most recently 21:30 on a fairly fast road race in March
>>35386395
You are so ignorant -_-
>>35386088
>runs 2 miles in 13:30 with no cardio
When I was a runner and never touched weights I ran 2 miles in 10 minutes
I stopped running and started lifting, but if I had any endurance at all I'd be unstoppable
>not becoming the unstoppable machine
>>35389427
Making shit up, and your logic doesn't follow.
>>35386395
Idiot
It's really boring
>>35391779
Doing it wrong. Pretend you're being chased by zombies.
>>35391812
I don't think I'm 12 years old enough for that
>>35391876
Sounds like you live a boring life, mate.
>>35391888
I do, I'm not going to make it worse by running
>>35391902
I can pretend to be a zombie for you if you like
>>35391762
canines such as wolves and coyotes are a perfect example of an animal that is handicapped when it comes to their endurance. We can actually sweat through our skin so we're able to run longer distances without over heating. Our aerobic capacity and physiology is unmatched where endurance is concerned.
>>35391929
bad b8 m8
>>35391959
h8 to s8 but it ain't b8 m8
>>35391971
Evn frce b8 m8
> It's getting cold, isn't it?
