Out of all the 1/2/3/4 milestones, which one was easiest/hardest for you to achieve and why?
I ask only because I hit 1pl8 ohp for 5 last night and from what I've read online, ohp is the hardest to progress on, and the deadlift is the easiest. In contrast to this, my deadlift is struggling while my bench and squat keep going up at a normal pace.
Also, are certain builds better for certain motions? I'm a manlet btw, and have always had naturally wide set shoulders.
>>35334898
Squat.
Deadlift came easy as fuck compared to the others, press came just afterwards (which is weird because I've got orang-utan arms) then bench and squat last.
A lot of that was probably form and mobility though, plus hating to squat. I've got horrible ankle flexibility and long as fuck legs so taking it from abysmal to merely terrible took way more work than it should have.
Deadlifts for me I can squat 3 pl8, bench 2pl8 press 1pl8 but the most ive ever deadlifted is 160kg x 3 and my legs were shaking and felt about to snap. Not sure whta my issue is really
>>35334898
1/2/3/4 is 1rm
>>35335013
maybe for girls
>>35335013
If that's so, then I'm probably already at 2pl8 bench. I can do 195 for 5 so I have to be really close
I personally think you really reach the 1/2/3/4 milestones once you can do 5 reps of each. 1RM is easily achieved with half assed form, whereas your form is gonna be much better in the first couple reps of a 5RM.
Its really important to not cheat on OHP.
thats the hardest thing to train people on.
>>35334898
Squat was easy. Bench was the worst.
>>35335395
tell me more about how not to cheat on OHP and what's exactly cheating here
I mean besides pushpressing because that one's pretty obvious
>>35335405
not overextending your back and soliciting your chest
>>35334898
Squat was first, deadlift was second, OHP was third, and I still haven't hit 2pl8 bench.
>tfw deadlift is 445 when bench is only 205 1rm
>tfw trex mode
>>35334898
OHP and Bench were a breeze
DL was bit of work
Squat was by far the hardest, but I think that was mostly due to bad form
Now squat already beat all the others in the plate race, hit lol4plaet last week
>>35335411
this is a bunch of bullshit
when you start getting near 2plaet you have to bend your back to support it while resting
>>35335498
if you push with an overextended back you're doing the lift wrong.
![olympic-press[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/naXyQhv.jpg "olympic-press[1].jpg")
>>35335498
What >>35335462 is talking about is the cheat The Press, aka standing benchpress
>>35335537
I'm talking about resting, you press up while straightening the spine and neck, bringing the torso and head slightly forward
When you bring it back down you can bend your back all you want for support
>>35335546
yeah, no, that was not what I was talking about
>>35335554
mb family. I think we just misunderstood each other. My point was not to arch your back while you press
>>35335570
Gotcha, yes I agree
I could OHP 1 pl8 a week or two after I started doing it. It's the only milestone I've achieved though. I recently did a 3 pl8 dead lift. I'll have a 2 pl8 bench soon I think. I will probably get the 1/2/3/4 lifts in the order they appear.
>>35335448
My 1RMs are
Squat 150 Kg
Deadlift 185 Kg
Bench 65 kg
Press 50kg.
Talk about Trex baka desu senpai chan
>>35336313
Smh desu senpai
>>35334978
Same here, I squat 180kg but deadlift only 185kg. I think It's not normal that the dl is the hardest on 4321, but I never felt consistent on my dl technique. Inb4 quarter squat -nah. I think my lower back is too weak, my hammies do all the work when I squat and I never did any accessories on my lower back.
I hit 3plate squat 1st
1 plate OHP 2nd
2 plate bench 3rd
4 plate DL last
As of special note - I hit a 3plate front squat and 2 plate power clean BEFORE 4plate deadlift.
For some reason, that move is extremely difficult for me
>>35334898
2pl8 bench was first, followed by ohp.
haven't hit squat or dl yet
i do 3/2.5/2.5/1.25 these days
>tfw 1.5/1.5/3.5/4.5
Bench just wouldnt go up, relearned form with the help of a pt and now I'm back up to 1.5 pl8. Eating like a madman so I still might reach my goal before the end of the year.
Problem was that I used my shoulders too much starting out, if my retarded brother hadn't taught me how to bench and i got an actual pt I'd be long past 2pl8.
>>35338406
Oof Jesus Crust GIRL GODDAMN. STOP NOT BEING IN MY LIFE. Stop it!
Are you talking about atg squat or bitch-parallel squat?
If we're talking about 1RM then I'm already there with OHP and bench. If 5RM then I'm a month or two away. Nowhere close to 3/4 on squat and deadlift regardless, my lower body a shit
>>35338545
bitch-parallel obviously
ohp by far
>35kg OHP
>65kg bp
>70kg squat
>100kg dl
My 3x5 stats. They're sincerely fucked.
>>35335405
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmI1P3r1w4
>>35338607
>bp almost as high as squat
wat
>>35338621
I started squatting a few months ago and been benching for several years.
I just can't progress my squat a lot, I have weak knees and when I try to go for extra weight, they keep caving in.
>>35338471
If your OHP is as much as your bench then you have to be doing the form horribly wrong.
My 5 RMs:
>OHP
62.5 kg
>BP
87.5 kg
>Squat
None due to injury, but it was my strongest lift.
>DL
Stopped caring after I stopped squatting. Easiest lift imo.
>>35334898
I found OHP to be the only one that was hard to push it in 1/2/3/4. But I'm obese so 1/2/3/4 for reps isn't impressive for me at all. I feel like OHP goes up like 5lbs a month at this point.
>>35335448
You need work on your form that's really abnormal.
>>35334898
3 pl8 squat, then 2 pl8 bench. Still just below 1 pl8 OHP (probably around 55kg, never tried 1rm tbqh) and max Dl is 160, but le coloured muscle man website tells me that's proportional
>>35338681
Oh, and:
OHP seems to progress in fast 10 kg increments between long stalls.
BP is my weakest lift and stalls a lot.
Squat was the fastest to progress and from the very beginning my strongest lift by far.
DL is nearly the same as squat but I dropped it in favour of cleans and clean pulls.
>>35338607
Do you just really hate squats and didys? I'm the complete opposite of you
All 5rm kg
> 43
> 61
> 125
> 143
Bench will be the last by a long shot. Squats are there if you count 1rm, didys is a bigger gap but I'm progressing way faster than ohp.
>>35335448
I'm the same. Are you also fat as fuck?
>>35334898
>tfw gonna hit ohp and bench before squat and deadlift probably never
>>35334898
Why the fuck do you autistic fucks use an absolute measurement for strength progression.
Use % of bodyweight.
>>35338787
Back to reddit with you.
>Bench 225
>Squat 335
>Deadlift 455
>OHP 185
I feel like this is really unbalanced, but I can't tell.
>>35338799
Gorilla detected.
I think deadlifts will hit first and OHP or squat last.
0.75/1.5/2/3.25
fucking holiday season isn't helping either
>>35338731
I just recently started doing them. I've been fucking around in the gym for quite a few years, without following any program.
Been following SS for a few months now, so my squat and dl basically came from nothing.
Can't seem to progress my bp though. I should probably eat more.
>>35338383
Why?
>>35338811
Ik lach me dood man
>>35334898
>Easiest
Deadlifts. Always had a strong back and glutes. No idea where from.
>Hardest
Squats. I'm 6'4" and have a bad hip from years of sitting a a desk for 12 hours a day (shift worker).
OHP and Bench stay relatively the same in progression.
So far at 4 plate dead, 255 squat, 275 bench, 155 OHP all 1RM.
i just started to stall recently on all my lifts except maybe DL
37.5kg ohp
55kg bp
85kg squat
102.5kg deadlift
all 5x5. never gonna make it with my 62kg bw
>>35338948
>Squats. I'm 6'4" and have a bad hip from years of sitting a a desk for 12 hours a day (shift worker).
Nice excuse. Not believable, but a solid try anyway. Your squat is shit because you lazy
5'7" @ 260lbs
OHP 160x5
Bench 225x5
Squat 280x5
Deadlift 295x5
Press was easy, then squat, then DL, then bench, but then I switch to ATG squats, which made squat the hardest.
Currently going for a 5 rep 1/2/3/4.
Shoulder press was again easy AF, currently shooting for 155. Then bench and DL tied (though I switched from touch and go DL to full stop, which slowed that) and my squat still isn't quiiiite there yet. Get 295x5 atg, but then finals hit and I haven't gotten the 300 yet.
Squat was the easiest. Then deadlift and OHP. Bench was and still is the hardest. I can hit 2pl8 for 5 but every time is just as difficult.
OHP/PC/BP/SQUAT/DL (kg): (32.5, 42.5, 40, 77.5, 80)
Why
tfw squat is 405 and deadlift 465, but bench 225 :DDDDD
Trex mode
5'11 185, lifting for 14 months.
Got a 3pl8 squat in 7 months, got a 1pl8 OHP in 8 months. got a 4pl8 deadlift in 12 months, and got a 2pl8 bench in 12 months
Now after 14 i can do:
180kg squat x4
200kg DL x1
105kg bench x5
65kg Ohp x8
>>35335405
>>35338806
Those are good lifts.
>muh ratios
Never listen to these spergs
>>35339183
>pc
Privilege check?
>>35335367
5 reps is too easy. You can't really say you're doing that weight unless it's comfortably for 3x12.
>>35338607
Not really. You're still relatively untrained, meaning your current ratios don't really matter.
I didn't start overhead pressing until I had a 120kg bench, started with 45kg for sets of 8.
So I suppose that one is gonna be the easiest.
>>35334898
2/3/4/5 is fucking hard to achieve
i'd say squat is the easier one, but anyone who can deadlift with proper form should get it faster
>>35339491
>started with 45kg for sets of 8.
wtf, how are people so strong?
i had to start with the woman's 15kg bar for sets of five...
Smith Machine Stats...
Seated OHP: 3x1 @ 200 lbs.
Bench Press: 1x1 @ 290 lbs.
Squat: 3x5 @ 290 lbs.
Deadlift: 1x1 @ 390 lbs.
I don't have any free weight stats except...
Seated OHP: 3x5 with 75 lb. dumbbells.
Bench press: 3x12 with 90 lb. dumbbells.
>>35339561
Why do you use a smith machine...?
>>35339590
Because Planet Fitness is one of the few gyms open when I get off work and I don't always have a spotter.
>>35339606
>Needing spotter for squatting
Give me a fucking break dude, sit down into a deep squat and drop the weight behind you
5-6Rep
135/235/255/335
shit squat, can't balance on left foot after injury. working hard to get to 270, then it should be gucci. full leg press 4pl8 each side 5 rep doeee.
>>35339624
I'm sure that you're really big and strong.
>>35339651
What are you talking about?
>>35339662
Just what I stated. I'm sure that you're really big and strong and I'm sure that you lift a lot. It's always the people who provide unsolicited advice that have the largest muscle and the most useful wisdom.
>>35339674
he's just informing you of how to safely bail a squat you fucking weak beta mongoloid
>>35339691
Yes and like anyone on the internet, I have access to youtube.
>>35339674
So what it comes down to is you're too afraid to learn how to bail a squat, or even squat with a normal bar at all and get all defensive and butthurt when confronted with it?
>>35339705
So whats your problem? Why do you insist on doing smith machine shit then if you know how to? What the fuck
>>35339721
Like I said in my first post, Planet Fitness is one of the few gyms open when I get off work and I don't always have a spotter (squats aren't the only lift that people do).
>>35339713
My point still stands. People who give unsolicited advice are usually very strong and knowledgeable.
>>35339734
So whats left? Bench, ohp and deadlift? Love me some deadlift and ohp spots. Benches usually have safety pins anyways, and if not bench in the squat rack.
Stay weak faggot
>>35339747
Bet you took that "lift in a smith machine" advice from someone very strong, large and aesthetic right?
>>35339513
he already had 120kg bench, and bench uses your shoulders a bit
>>35334898
My squats are so fucking shit......
At one point my OHP and squat were both at 145 pounds.
>>35340091
How...
I OHP 1.25pl8
Bench 2.5pl8
Squat 3.5pl8
But still max out at a 3.25pl8 DL... whats wrong with me /fit/?
All reps of 5
>>35340518
core/forearms
>>35340562
I think its my core... my grips fine..
>>35338948
>>35339022
fuckin roasted
>>35340518
Learn to load your hamstrings properly. I've only ever met one person whose DL was worse than his squat, even if he was lifting heavy on all of them. His problem was he wasn't loading his hammies well. His DL instantly increased linearly for awhile until it was well beyond his squat.
Try doing Romanian DLs for awhile until you get the hang of how to activate the right muscle groups throughout the movement.
>>35339606
>spotter
literally have never needed a spotter, and i lift more than you freeweight.
1 OHP
2 Bench
3 DL
4.... 2.5 pl8 front squat. dont back squat
>>35338731
Hm.. I have problems with BP.
5x5 in kg
> OHP 40kg
> BP 55kg
> Squat 80kg
> Deadlift 100kg
OHP 1pl8
Bench 2pl8
Squat 1.5pl8
DL 3pl8
All for 5 reps.
I really want to get better at squats but my knees are pretty messed up. It's probably a form issue but I dunno, my legs start to quiver if I go parallel with any more weight than 185lbs
OHP 1pl8
Bench 2pl8
Squat 1.5pl8
DL 3pl8
All for 5 reps.
I really want to get better at squats but my knees are pretty messed up. It's probably a form issue but I dunno, my legs start to quiver if I go parallel with any more weight than 185lbs
>>35342662
see a physio about your knees. I had problems with my left knee, turns out I twisted my hip when I was 8-10. I'm 22 now.
Bench was easiest, squat and OHP was hardest, deadlift was easy but harder than bench.
>>35334898
i have a 1.5 pl8 ohp yet i can only deadlift 3.5 plate. I can squat more than i can deadlift, and i can bench like 2.5 pl8. WHAT THE FUCK
>>35334898
4plaet Diddy
OHP came first
Bench and skwat about same time
Diddleslift still only 3.5 plates
I'm very upset by it
Press is easiest for me, then deads.
Bench is hardest.
I've hit more plateaus on deads, but as long as I suck it up and do the work I can slowly build my squat.
I've always had strong shoulders but a waist & hips about the same as my chest at nipple level. I'm not extremely tall or long limbed.
I tthink years of light labor and hobbies where I had to get forearm endurance have made the press and deads where I can best grip the bar & get stable.
>>35335335
You should be able to
>>35339440
Power cleans, checking my bumper plate privilege right now though
>>35339359
Rippetoe said in a video that the right motion is all right. A sort of a bounce if you will. What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnBmiBqp-AI#t=1m35s
>>35334898
I havent hit any, but i know my bench will be last. 120 for 5 ohp, 265 for 4 squat, 335 for 3 dl and wait for it... 160 for 5 bp
>>35338731
fuck i dont get this
I have
ohp 47.5
bench 70
squat 80
dl 100
I trained all lifts the same. Why is my lower body such jackshit
Is this the goal for highschool kids? Kek
2/3.5/5/6.5
>>35343100
He used to teach the strict press as well until he realized that only about 1/3 of the people at the seminars actually learnt the correct way to press which wasn't the problem with the squat, the deadlift and the bench press.
It's fine in my book, for whatever that's worth. It's a good way to incorporate a stretch reflex without making it into a push press and keeping the shoulders and tris the limiting factor in force production.
>>35334898
Bench. Long arms and had shit form for a long time, bench press technique took the longest for me to get (as well as the 2plate milestone)
Deadlift came first, long arms helped.
OHP came next. Shoulders were already pretty big from playing basketball
Squat came 3rd, squat technique was probably the easiest for meto get
Then bench was last. My bench is still pretty shit in comparison to my other lifts and I've accepted that it will always be that way.
The fucked up thing is, I have a pretty big chest and people are surprised that I don't bench more after seeing my other lifts
>>35338387
>Inb4 quarter squat
Post form check then
>>35338471
Post bench form check for help
>>35338607
>>35338644
>been benching for several years
>35kg OHP and 65kg bench
lol
>>35338948
Height is not a fucking excuse for squat. People that claim this are fucking retarded and don't understand anthropometry, I'm 6'3 and have no issues with it
>muh hip
Then do something about it. Lots of people have desk jobs
>>35339561
You don't need a spotter for anything except for bench, even then, you can bench in a rack
If you don't know the smith machine is shit, then just end it already
>>35340091
>>35340518
>>35342662
Form checks
Help us help you
Higher squat than dead very commonly means that you are not squatting to depth
>knees are pretty messed up
Elaborate, or it's just a shitty excuse
>>35334898
I'm just starting, but I can already tell squats will be the worst for me. I'm already pretty close on bench. I haven't tried but I think I could 1RM 2pl8. I'm confident I'll get there on DL and OHP. But my squats are just unbelievably weak. I struggle with 1pl8.
>tfw I can bench more than I can squat
>>35334978
If legs are shaking hamstrings may be weak
