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cheating frauds general

>assholes and elbows edition

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>>35307470
>>35306013

for gen info pls see
/r/steroids/wiki/index
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>>35313622
Roiders, realize that eventually your mental health and body image issues will eventually catch up to you and you'll either kill yourself or go crazy like Kroc did
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>>35313622
In 4 not making 100 /fraud/ threads
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In for hoes and hoe accessories
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4 breads

Fuck
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>>35313667
These are the people handing out roiding advice. lol
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>>35313667
finally down to three kek
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>>35313682
JUST SHOOT EM UP WOOOOOOOOOH.
Drugs.
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Do you cunts want to just make one god damn thread for fuck sake?
Do people not know how to delete threads?
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>>35313806
Dog you're weird af lately. #chill
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>>35313811
It's the roids. 100mg of test is allot for a guy his size.
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>>35313826
Lmao low blow
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>>35313811
I've been no different
You fuckers just won't stick to one damned thread kek

>>35313826
Cheeky bastard. Isn't it embarrassing that the manlet weighs more than you? :^)
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>>35313849
At his height, they're all low blows. lol

>>35313873
Nice. What's your weight up to?
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>>35313884
eh still bouncing around 80
gained an extra inch on my arms and body fat is going down
No shirts fit anymore and pants are all too big

It's actually kind of annoying because I don't want to spend money on clothes when I could spend it on food and gear
Or cars
Or bikes
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>>35313884
SAVAGE
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hi there
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>>35313908
Post fatter asses
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>>35313913
thats disgusting
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>>35313905
>80
Nice. At your height, that's got to look swole af. I'm just short of 90kg atm. Hoping to hit at least 100 by the end of bulking season.
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>>35313925
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>>35313925
How tall are you? Hitting 110kg natty was easy as fuck.
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>>35313908
Too cute

>>35313913
That fucking hair tho. Gross

>>35313922
To think I missed out on fucking 18-19 year olds that look like this... Only by a few years too

>>35313925
I found eating enough carbs really hard because I was "eating clean"
Once I started adding in some dirtier stuff I've been able to hit daily intake easily
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>>35313934
6'2ish. I'm used to being skelly. Bulking is hard, cutting is easy as fuck though.
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>>35313941
how old you now?
you prolly can still smash that desu
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>>35313948
Idk I guess I feel it. Lately I plateau around 265, so I just end up cutting again.
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>>35313948
THAT is a perfect ass

>>35313952
Oh I definitely can, gf is 19
But I just mean I can't get them in abundance the way I want
Not fit enough for that shit
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>>35313934
125kg. 196cm. carrying more fat than I should. bit disappointed in my progress this year. I have 18kg, prolly 8-10 fat though
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>>35313968
>Not fit enough for that shit
you look p good tho, iirc
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>>35313979
Yeah but getting bulk girls, especially them younger prettier ones, is easier when you're fakin shreddid bruh
I gotta lose probably 1kg of fat from my stomach alone before I'll be happy with my core
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>>35314046
dnp with me next winter
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>>35314055
>my pussy my choice
That's what she thinks

Definitely gonna give dnp another hit. It melted a few kilos off me last time, but I reckon next time I'll dial in the diet better to lose more.
However for the next..... 7-8 months I'll be struggling with the traditional Australian heat kek
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>>35314106
>However for the next..... 7-8 months I'll be struggling with the traditional Australian heat kek

I know
Think It's just you me and canary from the southern hemesphere.

thats why I said, dnp with me next winter.
lets do it in june?
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>>35314127
Forgot you were southern hemisphere
Fucking praying for cooler weather by June tho
It's already hotter this year, plus drought
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>>35314139
>global warming
thanks obama
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>>35314147
I fuckin knew he was behind it!

>Watching YT videos of fat people getting destroyed
That god damned video from SBS where based Julius realized that the fatties are a lost cause and need to be eradicated
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>>35314175

https://youtu.be/_ARVUy43lOQ

kek "You can't tell a fat person to lose weight because you can't tell a black person to change their skin colour"
Fatty gets rekd
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>>35313913
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>>35313622
Im not embarrased to say that i will still do her, matt krocy btw tbqh lad
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>>35314285
>Im not embarrased to say that i will still do her
you should be doe,,,
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>>35314302
I thought this place is for high test...
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>>35314333
I dont like high test
fuck that
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>>35314352
Lmao
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>>35314366
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>>35314352
>chatting with qt boyish short hair skinny girl on okc (full FL mode)
>stops responding

why live

the pain is too great
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>>35314419
>stops responding
lol dude
people have lives
she could just have had something come up

wait a few days and hit her back up again
jb8 I havent talked to in months messeged me this morning.
Said my profile picture was sexy
So thats nice
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>>35314432
but I messaged her last with a question she didn't answer

how spergy is it to then hit her up following that with something different

can't be done, just gonna call it an L and have some refeed days to feel better
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>>35314448
give it a few days dude\

supply and demand
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>>35314459
;_;

ok thanks yolo, you give me hope in a hopeless world
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>>35314468
np dude.

dont put the pussy on the pedistal

at the end of the day its just a girl
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>>35314478
im not even really the type to put it on a pedestal, I just cringe hard when I lose anything

be it money, chances with women, etc

perfection is the aim
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>Tinderella confesses love by text, at 2 am inebriated at a party
pls, where's my disney fairy tale
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>>35314504
I use to put that shit soo hig up on the pedistal when I was younger ;_;

I find that the less you care (or seem to care) the better.

>>35314509
pix of tinderella plox
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>>35314519
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>>35314519
we're all gonna make it

maybe

>>35314537
she's attractive--nothing amazing imo

gotta think that she was probably with a bunch of friends loling while sending those messages too breh
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>>35314537
nice.
really like her hair on the right pic
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bohh
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>>35314546
She's 8/10 to me. Am fan of 5'8 height, how she's not emotionally unstable and ability to not use teeth. Seriously, the rarity of women that know how to not have teeth scraping will always confuse me.

>>35314547
She let's me fuck it up all the time too
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>>35314564
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>>35314573
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I'm planning to run 500ml of test and 20mg d-bol soon. I did an oral only cycle a few years ago (was highly retarded) of turinabol (though I'm not not sure it even was that) and got slight gyno because I didn't PCT. It's not visible, but I have some lumps under my nips. What can I do to ensure they don't get larger when starting this first cycle?
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>>35314599
>500ml of test
kek

>What can I do to ensure they don't get larger when starting this first cycle?
what is ai?
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>>35314599
>500ml
RIP.

Use aromasin and go take a picture of your nipples for me right now
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>>35314568
post pic of yourself barbell brah

>>35314599
1. start at low low bodyfat
2. use pharma ai accordingly
3. if super paranoid use low rose ralox throughout cycle
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dropping from 600test/e week to a 250 cruise.
6 days since my last injection, and i feel lethargic as fuck.
should i just keep to 2 smaller injections a week?
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>>35314419
>>stops responding
I feel you, man.

Even if they aren't, I am actively feeling you right now.
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>>35314614
Then Mast will make fun of me again :(. I'm 7/10 if that's what you're wondering
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>>35314546
I do wonder if she was sharing it, 'cause she suddenly started typing short and serious messages for a bit afterwards.
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>>35314611

What's wrong with that cycle? The guys that are going to be helping me with my cycle are all ex-national level olympic lifters, one has competed internationally. This is the first cycle they do for beginners, test with a long ester and dbol.

The reason why I'm not asking them about the gyno is that I've told them I've never juiced before, though I did for like 6 weeks, but have made a ton more gains natty since then.
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>>35314656
You used ml instead of mg.
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>>35314669

Ah shit, didn't notice.
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>>35314611
>go take a picture of your nipples for me right now

Only if you're a hot chick and you'll show me yours.
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since yesterday realisations i care slightly less about baldness kek

i'm more confident now that as long as you got money you will be able to get bitches and even cuk broke guys with hair

feels like relief
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>>35314679
Yeah, your cycle is fine, you don't have to defend what you use here. We usually don't care anyway.

I'd use superdrol or anadrol instead of the dianabol due to your estrogen issues though.

>>35314701
Almost
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>>35314703
oi, got a pic with double bicep pose and legs visible? i need to see your whole body.
thanks brah
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>>35314703

Whats wrong with being able to pull off the bald/bearded look?

brah I used to constantly see the same 5'9 bald dude at the grocery store with a different hottie in his arm every time I went. Bald aint the end
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>>35314729
Why'd he keep bringing women to the grocery store
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>>35314703
and poor fuckers will see a bald rich guy and think, "I'd rather have hair than be a roided up bald millionaire"
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Whats a better way to work out asymmetries?

Because of what I think is a serratus issue one of my pecs isnt as developed as the other, not enough for someone to notice right away but enough for me to notice when I look in the mirror.

Anyway, start benching a little less weight and wait for them to even out? Or just work in an extra set of DB press with one arm pls respond
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>>35314710

The thing is the more popular steroids in my country are more likely to be legit, if I get anadrol I'm not sure it will really be anadrol or of decent quality.

I got these lumps about 1.5 years ago, on both sides and they were painful. The one on the right hand side has almost completely vanished and isn't painful. The one on the left has also shrunk significantly and it's probably 3 out 10 for pain from 8 out of 10 initially. I couldn't sleep on my chest and fucking my GF hurt my nips when our bodies rubbed, lmao. Wasn't good man, I guess that's the price you pay for stupidity.

What signs should I look out for when starting my cycle? And is there anything else I can apart from raloxifine? Which ai would be best?
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>>35314737
No idea, I thought it could be part of his usual routine before bringing them back to his place. Could be a personal trainer trying to slay too.
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>>35314729
my dad always mocks people who are bald

makes me cringe knowing i am going bald

sm h

but when i did deeply analyse his selections of targets and EVERY SINGLE TIME he just mocks bald waitors, bald bartenders, bald low class people

i never hear him say shit about bald people who make it

maybe a very careful comment but not more than that

so if you are going bald you have no choice you must make it or you are laughing stock, the target of peopels insecurities

i notice the same behavior is quite universal
wherever i worked, women would crack jokes at slapheads

but they would still worship bald managers and board members

and when sometimes a low person would make bald joke about boss then other people would laugh at him and mention the mega paychecks the bald man makes

people really have double standards for baldness depending on your status
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>>35314753
Which pec is bigger
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>>35314775

right

>>35314772
I feel like you're overthinking it dude. The only time another persons lack of hair actually comes to the forefront of my mind is when they are really young, and even then its something like "damn, that sucks".

But hey thats just me though
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>>35314772

I've never seen anyone ever take the piss out of a bald guy that's jacked/takes care of himself for simply being bald. It's always some skinny/fat bald guy.
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>>35314765
Aromasin would be best and just keep an eye out of erection issues, puffy nipples and/or oily skin.

Superdrol is legal, it'll be legit.

>>35314768
"Gotta' buy my rice before we train"
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>>35314745
actually with regard to the story of yesterday

i only told half the story, the full story makes it even more clear

>walk to restaurant with my honey
>this hoodlum from way back is sitting on some steps in the middle of the street with a glass of wine looking like a homeless degenerate
>he greets me and her (apparently they know eachother)
>asks me where i'm going
>out to eat and then night on town
>tells me i should go and eat in this burger place he works
>kek burgers? u think i take my honey to a fucking burger place?
>i tell him "maybe another time, we're going to eat fish"
>he looks somewhat butthurt, cant put my finger on it
>we move along and go to fine italian restaurant
>after meal we go to club where this dude also shows up
>greets me again says "ah eating, then dancing than fucking i see" in a sort of offensive angry way
>he's not taking off his jacket in club it's warm everyone in t shirts and skimpy dresses
>asks me if i still work out
>i'm in a fucking polo with 17" unpumped arms hanging out
>tell him yes cant you tell?
>he says
>that back in the day the difference between us was just so much bigger (total bs, i was natural twink)
>he implies he's the same size as me
>he says time goes so fast look at my beard a,d look you have almost no hair left and starts laughing real hard

this is when i realized this guy is really jellymad

he didnt take off his jacket all night and went home early with a crummy bicycle after walking around awkwardly with no bitches
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>tfw they said not to do oral only cycles
>tfw madcow1 who created that famous program sad its okay
>tfw madcow1 did lots of dianabol only cycles @ 20mg somtimes 25mg
>tfw larry scott did dianabol cycles at 15mg
>tfw john ziegler told athletes to take 15mg

fuck you all, just started dbol only cycle yesterday, 20mg a day. going to last 8 weeks. i'll report my gains after that.
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>>35314839

It's not that d-bol only cycle won't work, it's just that adding an injectable makes it work so much better.
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>>35314848
It doesn't work.
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>>35314851

I've seen guys run d-bol only and they made serious gains.
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>do you still work out?

lol...

sure there was probably a similar arm below that jacket
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time to crack the books now

gotta prepare for my examns so i can be fat paid executive like a boss

keep hating on bald people we will take our revenge and fire all people with hair one day so you can all be on crummy bicycles
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>>35314848
well... i got no money for that...

100x10mg of dbol is 100BRL
sustanon 250 here is 20BRL

doing dbol only is so much fucking cheaper it ain't even funny
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>>35314745

Lol, I'd go completely bald in a heart beat for 10 mill.
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>>35314851
>doesn't work

which is why doctors who oversaw olympian athletes gave them 15mg a day only, and a lot of old school 60s bodybuilders did dbol only cycles, right?

pic related took 15 to 20mg a day.
didn't work it seems look at that skelly
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>>35314904

Wait a bit longer, save up some money and have a better cycle. Use some test instead of the sust, it should be cheaper.
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>>35314851

Soviet athletes in the late 50s and early 60s only used orals. Clearly it worked because they wiped the floor with everyone.
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>>35314919
test is more expensive than sustanon here. also, summer is here. no reason to wait really...

cheapest 16 week sustanon cycle:
640BRL

i'd rather see more modest gains that don't scream roids and spend less.
if i gain 15lbs in 80 weeks @20mg i'll be happy enough.
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Who uses wristrollers here?
What's your routine? After a few sets I can barely do two reps, the pumps are insane.
Can I do it everyday?
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>>35314948

Do what you want to do man, but expect to feel like shit.
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>>35314851
Yes it does
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>>35314986
Stoya you messed up our deal.
I'm supposed to say it doesn't work and then you come in saying "Yeah it does, and I'll give 25% discounts to anybody wanting to prove it right now".
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>>35314973
i feel great. it's only the second day though...
dbol is known for making you feel like a god since it increases dopamine

shit feels like i'm on fucking ritalin
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>>35314991
I don't sling, dbol only is pretty great for a beginner cycle if they're on the fence about roids

>>35314995
Same, just watch Estro and take your liver supps
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Is taking about suppliers allowed on here?
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>>35315031
No.

>>35315008
By doesn't work, I meant they might as well look at their diet and they'll be better off 8 weeks post cycle.
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Question for you guys. I'm sure we all know about the natty limit but is there a limit you hit while on test? Like can you only get so big on 500mg and eventually you'll have to up the dose to grow more? Sorry if this is a stupid question it just seems like I've hit a wall at 500mg a week. Pls respond
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>>35315035
>No

that's gay
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>>35315077
Yes.

Add orals instead of increasing the dosage.
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>>35312277
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>>35315077

How many times have you ran 500mg of test?
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>>35315077
>is there a limit you hit while on test?
obviously
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>>35315080
Yeah I'll run dbol or anadrol from time to time but I always drop back down after a few weeks. My diet is perfect and I'm well past my natural limit. Would I benefit from say upping the dose to 600mg a week?
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Is there anywhere on the internet where you can discuss suppliers?
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>>35314546
>she's attractive--nothing amazing imo
>gotta think that she was probably with a bunch of friends loling while sending those messages too breh
No offense, but you sound pretty jelly af.

He's good looking, like a 8/10, so he's playing life on easy modus. It's obvious that he is good looking, because of the matches he get and what ppl say to him.

c'est la vie.
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>>35315095
Ive been blasting and cruising for about a year three months on three months cruising. but I've never gone above 500mg. Should I give my body a break and run pct?
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>>35315115

You're allowed to talk about suppliers on reddit and not 4chan, u wot m9.
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>>35314829
lmao, read all the stories. kek'd hard
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>>35315124
Im srs
check it out
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How do you blast and cruise without becoming infertile and fucking up your endo system for life?
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>>35315133
>wanting to be fertile
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>>35315133
yolo
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>>35315132

How legit is steroid source talk? I'm just vary that the reviews I'm reading are by shills luring in punters to rip off.
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>>35315143
It's pretty much the only good place
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>>35315143
>How legit is steroid source talk?
preddddy damn legit imo

lots of brahs who start of selling here go there eventually
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>>35315139

I want kids mate...
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>>35315158
I'm not /too/ clued up but its not that big a deal.
blasting hcg usually fixes sperm production.
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>>35315155

That's good. Tfw when steroids are legal to use in my country.
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>>35315177
lucky you
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600test/wk 1-15
400deca/wk 1-15
30mg db 1-4

good cycle?
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>>35314972
>>35315112
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>>35315190
yeah but if your cycling you shouldnt run deca, it stays in your body too long and will mess with your pct
use npp instead
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>>35314896

20 years later

> jm big boss millionaire ceo
> all employees bald

kek
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>>35315203
im cruising otherwise, because my natty test is nonexistant
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>>35315217
>my natty test is nonexistant

Because of roids?
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>>35315222
nahh, had my test levels checked and they were the same as a womans my age.
before i started taking test.
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>>35315155

What about eroids?
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>>35315229
nah
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>>35315229
nope

selective scamming and prolly over priced imo
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Which test is best for stable blood levels?
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>>35315338
Test U
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Is it possible to mitigate hairloss of a steroid cycle (by taking something else) if you're slowly receding or should I just say good bye to my hair?
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>>35315338
any of them, so long as you only pick one and pin according to half-life

>>35315399
some roids react positively to fina. some don't.

>>35315190
looks kinda like my cycle, but due to the crazy half-life of deca, I'm stopping it 2 weeks earlier. it kicks in late anyway. also I picked drol instead of dbol, I think drol is better, but many people disagree so dbol is fine if you want. I feel better being off of it now because it had a lot of non-estro sides, meaning there was no way for me to get rid of water retention and sore shins.
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>>35315456

>some roids react positively to fina. some don't.

Which 1ns lad?
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any way to know difference between sdrol and drol?
i think my sdrol powder is actually drol
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I've been bulking and gaining strength for the past year and eventually plan to use gear to get even bigger and stronger, but I'll cut down first to about 10 - 11% bf. However, I don't want to cut as a natty as I'll lose strength. What would be the best gear and other special supplements to use to cut and preserve/gain strength?
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I need to stop being a lazy fuck, get to the gym more, and fucking eat more. All of these things are hard as shit to manage with this fucking irregular job that just jumped into my life, having to go to interviews so I can get a non-irregular job, and the lack of money that comes with not having a regular job. I'm looking forward to next year, where I'll have a continuous, stable, ample income with my own room and will have time and money to blow on a tren cycle and eating well and working out and fucking women and sometimes dudes in privacy.

meanwhile in bitchville:
two women cancelled dates on me today. one didn't even say anything the entire day, she told me to call her to wake her up so she didn't oversleep and then she didn't respond to anything. she was going to treat me to a private hot springs room and get my rocks off, so I'm not too happy about that. I had a couple of dates yesterday though, so I like to feel like I'm still in the game. One was cute but too fat so I haven't messaged her back, the other was okay but I swear she's trying to sell me something and it seems like she wants to try to friendzone me even though she openly stated that she thinks I'm handsome and interesting and was impressed with how I completely managed to avoid trying to rope her into any sex talk like the other laowai chumps here who creep on girls online.

Better news though: this virgin chick in another city has all but asked for a delivery of D. we went from weeks of cute talk about meeting and maybe watching a movie together and cuddling, to talk about how she wants to grab my back and bite my shoulder while I'm licking her tits and fingering her, in like less than 24 hours, so as soon as I get my finances stable I'll hop on a high-speed train and grab a motel room. Also a slightly chubby but pretty cute and big-titted cougar wants to fuck me this wednesday
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>>35315500
Oh yeah, this chick said she wanted a workout partner on some facebook group, so I responded and within like 10 minutes she invited me out for a drink on her for tomorrow night because I complemented her body which she's insecure about. She does o-lifting so I wouldn't mind cleaning her snatch. So I guess I can rebound from a couple of missed dates alright.

Sorry for the blog post, but this seems to be the place to discuss pressing matters in bitchville.
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>>35315492
read the pastebin
cruise on low dose test (i think 200mg?) while cutting until 8% then start your blast and reverse diet to a bulk
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>>35315510
If you're going to blog put on a trip so I can follow the saga
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>>35315513

What will happen to my strength? And what about throwing in T3 or some other drugs to aid the process?
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>>35315510
>She does o-lifting so I wouldn't mind cleaning her snatch
lmao
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>>35315510
>cleaning her snatch

kek'd
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>>35315475
the big difference is that drol really blows you up, it's the best or second-best bulking oral, while sdrol should give you a dry cut. if you're wet right now, you can rest assured that you're on drol.

>>35315492
ignore the other dick. I'm working on a cut plan and I think I have a good idea of what to do. there's more than one way to do it, dosage and oral type depends on how you want to deal.

4-6 weeks
anavar/tbol/sdrol at regular dose
10 weeks
600mg test-e
8 weeks
500mg tren-e
OR
10 weeks
400mg tren-e
Maybe 10 weeks of clen, maybe t3/t4. I'm terrified of DNP


Not quite sure which would be best so I'm still trying to iron it out, but the consensus is that tren is the ultimate cutting injection.
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>>35315519
I've been blogging for a while. I'm the dude who always talks about bitchville and I'm on a deca/test cycle, finished my drol kickstart.
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>>35315538
yeah i got a moon face going on right now
ive even been trying to up my dose to see if i could kill my liver if it was sdrol but no luck
today i took 60mg and i feel fine
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fuark, mirin highbar squats
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>>35315510
Why are you wasting so much energy on girls?
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>>35315551
that's weird as hell. I guess it would have to be drol then, or maybe even dbol
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>>35315558
I'm mirin that lime green belt
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>>35315563
because I'm on roids you fuck
do you have severe deca dick or have you never pumped 600mg of test into your body?
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>>35315565
i dont think its dbol, would have felt the estro sides
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gave me roid rage stories
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why do drol and sdrol cause gyno if they dont mess with estro or prolactin?
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What's the gear climate like in aus at the moment?
Looking to jump on something maybe next year, maybe '17. Not really up to date with how things are here.
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>>35315575
I'm just here for stories friend
But honestly chasing girls is such a waste if you're trying to move up in life
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>>35315587
Positive feedback
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>>35313631

He was dressing up in womens clothes since he was a little kid/early teen...
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Anyone had any legit roid rage?

I get pissed when people talk to me the wrong way, what's going to happen when I'm on test, tren, and dbol?
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>>35315595
trash
only two labs pushing quality product are private

>>35315601
elaborate please?
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>>35315608
People will stop talking to you the wrong way
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>>35315577
well, I guess you're on drol, idk though, maybe sdrol can have the same sides? I've never taken it, though drol was really brutal for me

>>35315585
I don't have them, but I guess maybe it's because I'm not on that trensanity. I tend to be pretty balanced on roids.

>>35315599
If you don't know what happens to your dick when you have 600mg of test flowing through your body, you wouldn't understand. But the short of it is that I live in Taiwan and have incurable yellow fever, and I've gotten more female attention in the past month than I have at any other point in my entire life.

>>35315608
if you are prone to rage, tren will not be easy on you. for those of us who keep our cool all the time, roids change very little.
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>get insecure about not having plans with any girls
>make plans
>feel like cancelling
Why
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>>35315642
because you're driven by your fomo
also if you make the plans before masturbating, then masturbate before you leave for your plans, guess what happens
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>>35315608
Get your head sorted first, brah. You can still have muscles and be a cunt
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>>35315084
Guys can you please tell me what you think ?
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Steroids are for manlet faggots
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>>35315711
>My breasts are larger and sag a bit
Without a picture you could be fat, have gynecomastia, cancer or just odd muscular development.
Your nipples are sensitive either because there's growth or hormonal imbalance. Use an AI and letro.

As for the acne go to your dermatologist again.
How much accutane were you on? When was this?
Show a picture of the acne.
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>>35315732
>Show a picture of the acne.
kind of a weird fetish youve got there
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>>35315587
sdrol doesnt
drol does because it binds to estrogen receptors
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>>35315711
i think your dermatologist is a quack
i also think youre fat as fuck
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>>35315614
Well shit.
Shoulda known, fucken island.
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this marc lobliner is possibly the most annoying youtuber of all time

i really tried to refresh my outlook many times and thought he must not be all bad being a "ceo" and a "pro bodybuilder"

but shit man this dude has severe psychiatric issues and that's coming from JM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OaiVPn67nE

i can say with absolute certainty he suffers the following conditions

>napoleon syndrome
>small dick syndrome
>small arms syndrome
>BBC loving syndrome
>inflated sense of importance
>sense of entitlement to praise and worship
>repressed homosexuality (bbc love, chin beard,...)
>talks shit about his own wife's vagina on youtube => https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgXf7qwPzmc
>denies the extent to which his physique is built on roids (nothing wrong with that but denying it points to mental problems)
>often talks about the insignificance of his penis size on youtube instead of never mentioning it like a mentally sane small dick man


list goes on and on and on
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>>35314972
>Who uses wristrollers here?
Yes, they are really potent for forerarms. In fact; it's the beste exercise you can do for forerams.

all other excersises for forerarms are a MEME.

Do them 2 times a week 5 sets till failure. They burn like hell, because they're really effective.

See the results. Only with the wrist roller.
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>>35316170
so in otherwords he's your average run of the mill jew
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>>35316170
Did you notice how heavily he breathes after each sentence.

Bnc is safe guiyzzz
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>>35316190
>wrist roller
What weight did you start out with and reps/sets/rest time?
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the brazil chic

i told her she looks like she could be philippine, thai she looks somewhat suspect

she said her grandmother is indian so that makes her quarter indian 75% brazilian i suppose

she looks pretty nice and has natural shiny hair not those afropubes black women have

but i'm not sure what to do with her

will see what happens so far not going to abort operations yet still gotta hit that RAW NO PULLING OUT

and she seems like a freak in the bed

might help me to get over baby mama
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>>35316191
>>35316212
it's weird because he objectively "made it"

how can he have made it and still be such a mental case?

It's like he wants everybody to bow down and praise him for the efforts he made to make his own life better

that doesnt make any sense is he insane?
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>>35316229

You look like a swollen testicle.
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>>35316235
you too
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>>35316216
2,5kg is more than enough. If you can't buy one, you can make one yourself, which is relatively easy to do.

Get a;

rope
pvc pipe
2,5kg plate

pic related could be the result

exercise;

2 times a week, 5 reps till failure. Don't cheat your way down, but just roll it down really slow, keep constant tension is really important.

>>35316229
i hate that guy, i never watch his videos. He makes me very aggresive.
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>>35316309
using both hands? that doesnt sound very exercising. maybe i should give it a try
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>>35316309
on average, how much time a week do you spend exercising/lifting?
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>>35316309
Ahhh, Makiage-Kigu. Old Karate exercise. How long should the rope be, btw?
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>>35316396
Trust me, this is the best exercise for forearms. I tried most and this one is very effective. You can see the results. >>35316190

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/wrist-roller

this is a good video explaining how to do it. Seriously, do them. I love to do them, because of that sick burn you get. There is nearly not a same exercise that give such burning sensations

>>35316436
1,5 hours a day / 5 times a week.
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>>35316483
>1,5 hours a day / 5 times a week.
its like you're not even serious!

seriously though, i thought itd be higher. how long you been keeping that up for? before comps does it skyrocket to 5 hours a day or something?
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>>35316518
Why do you thought it would be higher. That's more than enough.

Big ramy trains even less.
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>>35316590
i figured the pros spent most of the day in the gym or doing some form of exercise.
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>>35316438
Just make sure it touches the ground when you hold in a 90 degree position.

>>35316710
that's bro science. I remember that dorian yates trained for 45 minutes each day.

It's the same with those bodybuilding videos were they're training so hardcore.

But irl they train really easy and controlled.
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>>35316217
Just see what happens. What do you want? a gf or just a fuck buddy?
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>>35316771

i dont think she is gf material

it sounds like she's in a routine of being a serial cheater - I know JM has a cuck history but he should probably at least aim to not be a cuck.
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did steroids make you happier

been lifting pretty seriously for a while now, tempted to start using the sterons
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>>35313622
I've never done roids or anything before, and never planned on being big enough that I'd need to.
However, I've had a few injuries and was wondering if steroids would help me recover? Specifically I've had shoulder problems and knee problems for several years. MRI on the knee came back with no tears, just some fluid buildup in the knee. Physical therapy helped both but they still haven't been 100%. I had a cortisone injection in my knee a year ago that helped, even after it wore off it was better than it was before the shot but still not 100% and still aches from time to time. I've heard some people say they used steroids to come back from injury, can I do that?
If so, any specific types/doses of steroids you'd recommend? I know basically nothing about this and don't even know where to get started. I read the wiki in the OP but that's pretty much all I know.
I'm 27, not getting any younger. I was never huge but I've lost around 15 pounds of muscle over the last few years and would really like to get back into lifting heavy again, and not worry about all these nagging injuries affecting day-to-day life.
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>>35316786
Yeah, she already has a man, not?

I think that a gf would do him good.


>>35316789
>did steroids make you happier
No they made my body dysphoria much worse.

I still think that most ppl use steroids, just for the mental part instead for the gains. I recently read a story about an anon, who was beta before but felt like a god when you uses steroids. He was now the guy he really wanted to be.
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>>35316789
Yes, but only slightly

Granted I'm only on 500 test but it hasn't drastically effected my mood other than making me somewhat more direct and aggressive (not angry) and a lot hornier

The best mood improvements come indirectly, seeing strength/mass/aesthetic improvements weekly is great. Now that I've been lifting a while I can truly appreciate the second noob gains

Although I wasn't sad or otherwise dealing with other emotional issues when I started

Don't forget to take your AI
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>>35316846
I think jerry has some knee fluid issue. using wet roids inflammed the problem or something by making the fluid build up increase.
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>>35316309

Thanks bro, just went and made one!
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>>35316789
yes, I think I have far less bipolar tendencies and make more clear, confident decisions while on the juice. sometimes I get a little bit angrier than usual, but typically my emotions are in better control than otherwise. but I feel uncomfortable if my schedule falls apart while on steroids, like I'm not doing things right. I also feel really left out if I'm not getting laid while I'm on particularly sex-drive heavy roids like dbol or drol
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>>35316879
this could be mitigated with good AI use (I go for 0.5 adex EOD to be safe) and avoiding retention asshole roids like adrol. deca+test+AI should be good for rehab functions, I use it to better my knee health and it seems to be working well despite doing heavy squats all the time.
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>>35316905
Glad i could help. Nobody have to have toothpick forerams.
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>>35316947
if i recall, jerry said it was deca that was giving him problems. which probably cant be mitigated with ai.

i dunno, i dont really fuck with that stuff
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>>35316975
do you roll it up or just down?
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>>35316975
>>35316879
>>35316858
$43 dolla no holla
Did I dew gewd?
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>>35316979
are you sure? I'm on 400mg deca and all of my water went away the second I stopped orals.
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H-hey guys can you help me? I'm coming up on the end of a 12 week 500 test e cycle (my 3rd) and I'm a bit chunky. Lifts way up now so whatever.

I'd like to start a cutting cycle around May or earlier, if my test levels will let me, so I can look halfway decent this summer.

I dont like the idea of cruising because I'm old (32) and Im afraid I wont be able to bounce back after a long cycle... I want kids some time soon.

So, how do I PCT without getting fatter/losing gains? When should I start cutting?

pls respond
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>>35317033
You should have done this research before you started roiding...
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>>35316989
Yes, this video demonstrates its very good

http://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/wrist-roller

>>35317033
I always eat the same as i did on cycle. I always gain fat on pct, because of low test levels. Just eat and train as much as you can to keep as much as possible.

It's better to gain a bit of fat and keep most of the gains then lose all of the gains and be 'shredded'. Make sure that your test levels are back online as before, before you start cutting. Otherwise you would lose all the gains. I would say approximitaly 2 monts after your pct you can cut. You can donate blood to make sure.
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>>35317066
>You can donate blood to make sure.

What do you mean? I know what donating blood is, but how does that help you when you're roiding?
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>>35317055
I know how to PCT, and my plan is to just come off and cycle again in a few months.

Im just starting to maybe consider cruising but I dont know yet. Last year I cut way too soon and lost some gains... not looking to repeat.

>>35317066
thanks senpai
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>>35317004
no im not sure. maybe jerry got confused but if its more wrong then i probably just misread what he wrote. in your situation though, stopping the orals probably stopped you being high estro
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>>35316995
you have fat feet. How did that happen?
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>>35316995
it's gud. But don't you go to a gym?

>>35317100
Then you know 100% if your natty test levels are back again after pct. You should never start cutting with low test. I always wait like 2 months after my pct.

I still amazes me that i only lost 2kg and my pct is almost done. I maybe have sick natty potential, who knows.
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>>35317142

I didn't know that they tell you your bloodwork if you donate blood, interesting.
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>>35317164
You know what i mean smartass.

*not tipped*
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>>35317164
they probably just test for diseases, iron deficiencies and blood cell counts.

you want to know your cholestrol and hormone levels then you might be better off going for a female lipid panel test from a private company
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>>35317109
drol does not aromatise, and test does
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>>35317124
Da beetus is real brah.
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Currently on my 10th week of a 250mg e4d test blast. Lifts are starting to stall (I am currently benching 100kg 5x5 , up from 75 5x5 at the beginning). No bloods or sides so far. Should I just pct or would I gain something by extending my cycle to 16 weeks? I was aiming for 120 5x5kg, but it seems that my weak ass will never achieve that.
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>>35317142
Nope.
My diddly setup is two transmissions with a steel pipe connecting them.
I have a big ass tractor tire I train with.
Might rip a calf out of a heifers vag today, too.
>I-i think my legs look decent...
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I'm a manlet faggot and someone said that steroids are specifically for me. Where do I start?
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>>35317245
less than 500mg of test a week doesnt really count as a blast lol.

it might be a bit high for a cruise dose though. maybe double the dose and do another 8 weeks
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>>35317344
figure out what you want and why. read up on google about what can help achieve that and what the downsides are.
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>>35317344
25mg of dbol every day for 4 weeks
250mg of testosterone enanthate injected into your shoulder or ass every three and a half days for 10 weeks
0.33 to 0.5mg of arimadex every two to three days
250iu of HCG every 3.5 days your last two weeks, then the next two weeks
after that, 2 weeks of 40mg tamoxifen citrate daily, followed by 2 weeks of 20mg

eat a lot, eat a huge amount of protein, and work out every day. keep eating relatively big and lifting 3-4 times a week after you go off the juice, wait 2 months before cutting.

then you're finished.
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>>35317445
>HCG for a 10 wk cycle
>only 25mg dbol a day
>no rest days

These are dumb
U are dumb
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>>35317473
>10 week test e cycle
bait
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>>35317473
>skipping HCG ever
stupid. you need it before you start PCT because your nuts will have forgotten how to react to LH, so it will be less able to utilize the benefits in LH generation from tamoxifen. every study indicates that your HPTA will be better off the better shape your nuts are in prior to PCT, so why risk not doing it.

>only 25mg dbol a day
that's the standard dose. you don't need to use more than that on your first cycle, though you can if you find you really want to

>no rest days
you rest when you need to. for me, I find 3 days on before a break is about my limit, but schedule issues put me at 4-5 days a week of lifting anyway.

>>35317503
this was what I ran my first cycle, and desu I was getting very little out of the cycle at the end.
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>>35317516
on 10 week cycle you dont really need hcg, real overkill
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>>35317516
Post CB
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>>35317516
>this was what I ran my first cycle, and desu I was getting very little out of the cycle at the end

What did you from it?

I was thinking of doing 12 week test e and then adding in 20mg of dbol for the last 6 weeks.
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>>35317516

I honestly don't even know where to start with your bullshit
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>>35317536
there's never a reason not to use HCG, so long as you dose it low and slow. if you want to run 5000ius in a week, you're retarded no matter what the length of your cycle, but even 8 weeks is long enough that your HPTA will have shut down to the point where LH response is limited. what the fuck do you actually think HCG is for?

>>35317540
do dbol at the beginning. the main point of your first cycle is to figure out how exogenous test and steroids affect your physiology, which is why it's best not to complicate things with multiple injections or orals. you run the dbol at the beginning because test e takes 2 weeks to fully kick in. this way you should have 12 weeks total of gains, including two weeks of quality initial gains while only the dbol is in effect, plus the 10 weeks where test-e is active.

>>35317541
>hurr your post is so dumb I can't point out what's wrong
if it's so full of bullshit it should be easy for you to name one or two things. why don't you just tell me how stupid HCG is like the other guy, without posting a citation either.
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>>35317582
>asking for citation showing why you don't need HCG after 10wks

Nigga where is your citation??
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>>35317344
You start by reading as much as you can about beginner cycles. Read all about the chemicals you want to put in your body
The general recommended beginner cycle is
>500mg test E a week
>have an AI on hand if you need it

That should give you a starting point to read about
>>
people's views on PCT depression, lost gains etc varies wildly from person to person. If he needs it then let him use it. he might just have shitty HPTA genetics.
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> Blasting off on Test Cyp 500mg a week back in the year of our lord, 2012
> Getting ragin' shin splints from normal walking
> Sleeping 16hours a day and still tired

What kind of bad reaction did I have?
>>
What's the ''best'' PCT?
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>>35317713
how fast did it kick in after taking the cyp?
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>>35317745
baby aspirin
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>>35317778
between the third and fourth pin.
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>>35317824
so two weeks?
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>>35317913
Yes, toward the end of the second week. Lastest until I stopped at week 5.
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Got a question. Test cyp/dbol cycle with clen. Thoughts?
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>>35317582
>you run the dbol at the beginning because test e takes 2 weeks to fully kick in. this way you should have 12 weeks total of gains

>8+2=12
right
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