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who else is home for the holidays and starting their WINTER MINI CUT
Put advice below and i could also answer any questions anons may have
Ya I have a question, who the fuck cuts during the winter?
Is that how I can ec stack in the us
>>35298850
Fat people
>>35299096
Yes, doing it right now
just picked up two boxes on the way home from the gym. gonna ec stack with I.F.
My blood pressure was 125/70, started taking hydroxycut hardcore, and blood pressure is now 145/80.... I'm wondering if I can just go into an EC stack now that the hydroxycut is gone or if I should chill and wait til my blood pressure is at a more reasonable level
>>35299274
How's it feel? Notice any side effects?
>>35298839
bronkaid or primatene?
>>35298850
Im home from uni where the food is unlimited. now that im home, cutting, i dont have to cook as much and i can get into the 14ish% range
Its win win
>>35299833
I have both, primatene is a little bit more expensive and i cant say its worth the extra few bucks desu, they both feel the same to me
>>35298839
My diet plan say 2400kcal a day,is it bad if I go below this?
Not on purpose, cant be bothered to eat more than breakfast and dinner + whey
>>35298839
>>35298839
My diet plan say 2400kcal a day,is it bad if I go below this?
Not on purpose, cant be bothered to eat more than breakfast and dinner + whey
>>35298850
Contrary to popular belief there actually IS other parts of the world besides USA.
I know it's hard to believe, but there's this places called the Southern Hemisphere where it's actually summer at the moment! I KNOW AMAZING RIGHT?!? HOW CRAZY IS THAT?!?
>>35299524
Im the real op, no side effects, stims dont really do that much for me. Its a completely safe stack as long as you dont have any prior heart conditions etc
I cant say much for results bc ive only been taking the doses for the last 2 weeks to get my body warmed up to all this.
Im now taking either 2 pills of primatene or 1 brokaid pill 3 times a day with 200mg caffeine
wow this thread is just one big dissapointment, huh?
>>35300334
>acting like a smart arse
>OP specified winter
>>35298839
Don't have bronkaid but have a bunch of these.
Started a few days ago.
36/12
Intermittent fasting.
It works, but this week is a shit with many meetings (Gorging shit food alcohol and marriages where you can'T get sneak away because the damn place they are partying is in a goddamn industry area).
FUCK MY LIFE
I am working out everyday now though. because I found out that doing bodyweight exercises is totes Awesome and I have no flexibility for proper squats with weights and have hernia and and and.
Oh, and in my drunk state I want to fuck, but I am currently too fat to attract any female without being loaded.
DESU NE~
>>35300372
What country?
>>35300372
canadabro? I have those same ones
>>35300389
US.
Got it from good ol Canadaland though.
>>35300389
Get out, walter white.
>>35300402
How??
>>35300344
Srry desu senpai i cant reply as fast as i would like to desu senpai senpai
>>35300402
How did you order it here?
>>35300418
Hey, uh, you got any iodine and red phosphorus, too?
baka desu senpai
>>35300431
Have a friend up there who mailed it to me senpai
>>35300457
They don't check at customs?
IF and lots of coffee.
Feels like I'm eating too much on a 2300cal diet but the weight is melting off.
Does anyone have that image of the post about super rapid and dangerous fat loss using HIIT and DNP and shit?
I lost my hdd and the archive is gone and I want to look at it.
>>35300468
Well of course customs checks.
It's all about how good it's hidden like anything else.
>>35300479
How did he hide it?
>>35300334
Almost as crazy as you not fucking reading the op, where he specifically said winter
>>35300479
Uh, you don't get to bring meds
Fat fuck here. What is the optimal amount of calories to cut if I'm doing minimal exercise? My BMR is 2705, eating around 1900/day currently.
>>35300511
Work out your TDEE and subtract 10-20%, monitor for a few weeks then adjust. Scoobys calculator is a good starting point it even has meal plans.
>>35300511
1900 is way to fuckin low, take your weight, subtract 15 lbs, multiply by 11. Thats your cals for the day. Reweigh yourself and change it every 2 weeks until desired weight is reached
>>35300525
How big of a difference between BMR and TDEE is there if I'm not exercising at all though? I feel like my BMR pretty much is my TDEE.
Goat desu senpai
Doing an ec stack right now. I got bronkaid at cvs. Bronkaid was about 14 dollars for 60 25mg pills. Primatene was like 9 for 24 or so pills with like 14mg
>>35300535
That formula is telling me to eat like 600 over my TDEE.
Seen amazing results with ec stack I was around 15 or 16 % bf with no visible abs. Now it's been about 2 weeks and my abs are starting to really show
>>35298839
Can someone post the updated EC/ECA stack infographic?
Or the link to the site with all the proper dosages?
>>35300657
25mg ephedrine 200 25mg caffeine 2 or 3 times a day with at least 3 hours in between
>tfw my chronic lung condition makes ephedrine almost a requirement to work out
I pop two before I go lift, and before I take them I'm usually doing some albuterol too. Although it does get me hyped af
>>35300473
Found it.
>>35300620
Then maybe your tdee is calced wrong, 11 times goal BW is low as fuck, especially at 900 calories lower. All gains will be lost in now time if you dip that low.
Its MUCH better to take it slow and make it easier than yourself than to do an insane cut
>>35298850
Your body need to heat up more in the winter in order to maintain core body temperature, this requires more use of calories, where you at brah?
Noob question where do I get ephedrine in Canada? Also is aspirin not part of the stack anymore?
>>35300867
>in Canada
Um GNC
>>35300797
It's not calced wrong, it's just your formula only working for a specific range of weighs, telling people weighing 100 lbs to cut 1000 calories, and big guys like me to bulk. -500 from TDEE seems like a much better way of doing it.
>>35300861
THIS
>>35300914
Quit being so damn fat then
>>35300907
It's not illegal?
>>35301038
Well that's the plan.
>>35300867
I usually order off of fitshop.ca cause its pretty cheap
>>35301039
its not illegal
>>35301057
Eat rocks
It fills u up with no claories and ur abs will be rock hard
Where can I get ephedrine in the US? They don't have bronkaid at CVS.
http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/how-to-cut-weight-ufc/
What do you think of this water cut strategy that is used by UFC fighters before weigh-ins?
>>35301660
lol what is the point of cutting water weight it will come right back anyway.
>>35301305
Get primatene or whatever other kind you can, as long as it has that E desu desu
Go to a different place and see if somewhere else has it
>3 week DNP cycle
>dropped 9kg
>turned what would have been 4 months of regular cutting into 3 weeks
>no sides at all during cycle
>no long term sides
well worth the $30 imo
>>35302155
But you did it right, there's gonna be some dumbass who's gonna take it and doesnt read the pastebin and dies lol
>All these fat faggot who can't cut natty
Man the fuck up
>ITT kids getting ready to blow their hearts out their chests in order to cut
>tfw Unlimited supply of Adderall and black coffee
Gettin fuarkin lean lads.
>>35298839
I'm about to finish my first cycle of clen in 2 days then Imma do a Yohombine hcl and MTS drop factor stack to finish it off.
Started at 2010 weighed in this morning at 197. Wanting to get to 190 before New Years I'm 6'4 btw
>>35302571
210 pounds**
>>35302571
Lmao drop factor sucks and its damn expensive, get an EC stack its 1000x better
>>35302596
DNP > EC > Clen
clen would be better if it had a lower risk of long term sides
>>35302596
Yeah what this guy said.
EC stack is probably the best and easiest cutting stack that WORKS and takes about 30seconds and like $10 to get. Unless you have access to amphetamines/cocaine, or know how to use Clen/Salbutamol/DNP/T3 w/o killing yourself(shouldn't need these as a recreational lifter) there's really nothing else you need to be getting or, is worth your sheckels.
>>35302639
Got access to amphetaminse, got access to clen/dnp/t3/tren.
Thinking of just running
400mg dnp/day
30mg eph/day
2x100mcg ipamorelin/cjc 1295/day
100mcg t3/day
800mg tren/week
2 weeks in adding
20mg sdrol, 20mg msten.
on a diet under 750kcal/day. Just one high volume dinner with tons of veggies and a shake erryday.
what to add?
pretty hard to kill yourself with clen/dnp/t3 though.
well.. dnp maybe..
>>35302714
Hard to kills yourself with Clen or DNP huh? OD on it and tell me how that works out for you lol. Wtf are you trying to cut bruh?Your life? Shit seems like overkill considering people can do a PSMF while losing very little muscle w/ no supps at all.
>>35298839
What the fuck is that? The box
>>35298839
where to get in us
>>35302781
Any pharmacy. Ask the tech for a box or two of bronkaid, they'll take your ID and you pay them.
>>35302759
Ephedrine
>>35302800
so like a CVS?
I'm scared I'm get arrested făm
>>35302807
Whats it for?
>>35302817
Asthma
>>35302811
It's an OTC, No one will say anything unless you ask for like 30 boxes.
>>35302758
>OD on it and tell me how that works out for you lol
It's actually much harder to OD on it than you think, you'd have to front load most likely 2 and a half grams to have a shot at death. No one in their right mind would do that. If you can source DNP then you've already easily done enough research to know dosing and how to take it safely.
>>35302811
Lmao chill man, they ask because you can use it to make meth. Don't buy 50boxes at once lol. If they ask (which they won't) tell them you have asthma, voila.
>>35302817
EC Stacks
I'm heading to texas and planning to take advantage of the time around the terrain- since I'll be there for 2 weeks, what should I eat while I'm there during dead hours? I heard the dry cold there really makes people dehydrated
>>35302847
DNP is just too sketchy for me. All of the other shit, provided you don't have a heart attack or stroke you're fine and can be treated. Your source fucks up or some dipshit is capping their own and end up roasting to death..yeah no thanks.
Do these "Fat burners" that contain caffeine, guarana, taurine, green tea extract, etc. have any merit to them?
>>35302976
I take lipo6
Yes and no. I don't think they have much of a caloric benefit, but i feel like a million dollars taking them
>>35303049
I see, so they wouldn't actually "burn fat" they just help you to get pumped enough to move and burn the fat?
>>35303085
I guess
Helps with energy levels, they don't help when i have a blood sugar crash.
I'm trying to cut to visible abs in a month, when I will have to be shirtless a lot, I'm pretty close. I
>do PPLPPLx
>reduced calories
>started drinking more water
>started sleeping 7-8 hours a night
>started doing 20 mins stationary bike a day
Good strategy m8s?
Anybody ha ve any tips for maintaining discipline over a long term cut/kickstarting after a stall?
I started a year and a half ago at 342 lbs, im currently sitting in the 235-245 lbs range and ive been here for atleast 2 months no and it's extremely frustrating. I'm trying to drop down to something like 180-190 before i think about bulking or anything like that but i just cannot seem to get back in to the mindset that started this whole thing
please help
Started cutting in November, I do 2 miles of jogging 3x a week and PPLPPLx. 1400 calories a day. I've only dropped about 5lb but my supplier of clen/dnp is out of town until January so nothing will go into high gear until then.
Is there anyway to ephedrine easily in CA? It's illegal here and obvious shops don't have them and online won't sell them to me. Is there a decent substitute, can you do a yohimbine/caffeine stack or would my heart explode
>>35303185
Ill field this before the yohimbine fearmongering comes in:
a Yo/Caffeine stack is completely safe and your heart wont explode and you wont have a stroke or whatever nonsense it is as long as you follow the proper dosing (and even then as long as you're not downing like 20+ pills and sprinting marathons you'll be fine)
Im out of both at the moment (kill me) but i would usually take 4 Caffeine pills (800 mg total) and like 8-9 Yo pills every morning before riding my bike to campus/work and i never noticed anything that felt like excessive strain on my heart
Its just like every other supplement you could put in your body, just be smart about it and you'll be fine
>>35303133
Too much damn volume with ppl programs, it probably is making you lose gains. Take EC and do PSMF until weight is acheieved
>>35303179
>1400cal deficit
>all clen and shit
5 FUCKING POUNDS ARE YOU KIDDING ME
you better be low as fuck bodyfat or a midget
If not, drink bleach
>>35303223
>just be smart about it and you'll be fine
>800mg and 8-9 yoh pills
Are you trying to kill people? You know people are actually going to take this into consideration when they their first stack.
Stick with 1 pill of each if anyone is thinking about starting a yc stack. I'm super caffeine tollerant and I took 200mg and 1 yoh and my heart felt like it was going to rip in two. I also nearly had a panic attack in class while on it.
People can be hyper-sensitive to stimulants
>>35303275
>Take EC and do PSMF
Legal? Expensive? Sterons??
>>35303287
[spoiler]164cm maybe 18% bf[/spoiler] I don't know why the weight isn't dropping off faster, my diet is tracked and on point.
>>35303313
That was my thought too holy shit that's a lot of caffeine at 400 I felt shitty and overstimmed
>>35303313
Sorry, i didnt think it could come across like that. i was just using myself as an example of a high dose not being instant heart failure or something like that.
but yeah, ive been doing it for a few months so ive built up a tolerance to it, my bad
>>35303376
I dont think ill ever go over 800, taking 4 digits worth of caffeine makes me a little wary. I'm doing IF though and usually dont get home from work until around 8-9 pm, so it's enough to get me through the day without keeping me up at night
>>35302893
I just buy my own from ali baba and cap it myself, literally $2 plus shipping for all the DNP I'll ever need and don't have to worry about source fucking up dose not like that would ever happen though.
>>35300770
Why do people recommend carbs on a dnp cycle?
ECA stack vs DNP cut pros and cons?
>>35303956
DNP is much faster. it increases your metabolism by ~50% while EC is only around 5%.
Downside is if you fuck up, you're going to die, period.
>>35304860
Expanding on what this guy said, unless you pop three or more grams on day one or pop 1 gram a day as a noob, you won't die. I'm pretty sure any retard can tell the difference between one cap a day and four a day, or a two cap frontload versus a 12 cap frontload, and if you can then you deserved to die anyways. DNP can kill you, but if you respect it and do a little research than you'd seriously have to be mentally retarded to kill yourself with it. If in doubt, even just 250 mg (1 cap) a day, which is completely safe, can increase your tdee by 40-50%. Nothing else comes anywhere close.
>>35301696
>What is the point of visible abs
What does it feel like when you are taking DNP? Is it a stimulant?
>>35305890
DNP feels like the opposite of taking a stimulant it makes everything feel harder. Go read the DNP thread pastebin it's got a lot of good info on it.
>>35303329
Google dumbass
E is controlled in the states, C you can find anywhere.
Type in PMSF on google dumbass
>>35303332
Youre counting calories wrong. Theres no way your body is defying physics like you think it is. Do some cardio
Btw all you newfags
this is how u score bronkaid
>go to walmart phramacy
>talk to the q t pie indian girl
>ask for bronkaid
>say you have asthma
>?????????
>pay for it & caffine pills
>leave
I'm a huge pussy so I don't wanna take DNP, if I just took caffiene pills and green tea extract would that be any good?
I've been cutting natty all this time and I'm so tired of it, I just wanna lose 20 more pounds.
>>35306082
>if I just took caffiene pills and green tea extract would that be any good?
If you want to suppress your appetite then sure but that's it.
I've cut natty and with DNP, used to have your mindset but I'm actually so glad I decided to use DNP, cuts go ridiculously quick now and best of all unlike clen DNP has no long term sides.
>>35306082
>im a pussy because i dont want to take a pesticide/explosive powder
>>35306082
20 pounds will take around 20 weeks assuming standard deficit. 20 pounds would take 3 weeks at most with DNP
>>35303863
which seller u use bro?
>>35306111
>tfw just finished my first cycle of Clen and lost 12 pounds in 2 weeks. Shakes weren't even that bad probably. Was worth it.. I wanna try dnp but don't know where to get it
>>35299833
Generic primatine
>>35301305
Walgreens. Possibly behind the pharmacy counter due to meth
>>35305972
Its banned in my state because of all the dumb methheads here
>>35298850
??? Cut when you need to lol, you don't have to align bulking and cutting wit b the seasons fuckboy
What is everyones views on "Fat Burners"? Over the last two years i've been losing weight but now i have reached the "stubborn fat" part of cutting and i'm struggling to get rid of the remaining fat around my abdomen.
I've been looking around online and it seems the most common "Top Pick" is Hydroxyelite, formally known as Oxyelite. The reviews all seem to be great and claim this shreds fat but i'm a little concerned about one of it's ingredients, which is "DMAA". Many sites claim its a health risk and the FDA has warned manufacturers about including it in their formulas. Essentially it is a strong stimulant.
Now previously i claimed i have lost weight over the course of a couple of years, and i used the EC Stack numerous times to assist me, so i'm no stranger to stims and i'm sure the same websites would issue the same warning about Ephedrine, so perhaps i'm reading to much into it. I was just curious if anyone has any history with this supplement, or Oxyelite? Or if anyone has any alternative suggestions.
I can always use the trusted EC Stack again, but living outside of North America i'm restricted to importing the Kaizen brand from Canada, and it's a bit pricey.
Where in the US can you buy yohembine pills? All I can find is yohimbe.
Anyone know of any Europe based Ephedrine suppliers?
>>35307762
If you're going to import something to lose weight you may aswell go all out and import DNP, fuck importing an EC stack lel
>>35306130
This. DNP should be respected because it can be dangerous, but if you research and aren't a retard it's entirely safe and makes cuts stupid fast. Cutting natty or with subpar substitutes like clen is a waste of time and honestly even more dangerous.
>>35306686
Go on the DNP generals and look through the pastebin. I'd take DNP over clen anyday, way better fat loss and no risk of enlarged heart and shit.
Can i do Paracetamol , ephedrine , caffeine stack instead of aspirin ?
Im trying to enter boipucci mode, so I'm ding more than just a minicut.
anyone have that helpful image detailing how to cut with bronkaid and caffeine?
>>35300861
You're partially wron mang. It takes more energy to cool the body down duting summer than to keep the temp up during winter. Kinda like a laptop cpu - gets hot easily, harder to cool down
>>35310492
If your body temp is about 37 degrees C.
Than wouldn't you have to sit around in 40 degree heat for that to apply, which does not happen anywhere near as often as sitting around in 10-20 degrees
Currently at around 14-16% bf and can linda see abs and after xmas looking to cut hard for 2 months until I start uni in March. I will do IF and sadly in NZ cannot get DNP or Ephedrine, what are my other options other than taking caffeine pills to supprress hunger?
>>35311331
>cannot get dnp or ephdrine
clen, albuterol, meth, amphetamines...
what does ephedrine do? does it eliminate appetite or speed up metabolism?
>>35311524
both.
Also gives you energy.
>>35311331
>sadly in NZ cannot get DNP
Yes you can, I'm in Aus and I've got it. It's easy to get through customs. Well if you're too scared to take anything considered prohibited then your only option is caffeine to suppress hunger.
hey guys, been on EC stack for about 2 weeks now,
first week, amazing, no cravings, had to force myself to eat anything.
around day 12 the cravings and hunger feelings have began to come back, even though i have not changed my pill popping schedule. what do? anyone else experienced this?
>>35312508
and sorry whoever hates me for making another thread senpai desu desu senpai
>>35298839
Keep poisoning yourselves, americunts
>>35312508
>>35312508
>>35312531
U are wonderful, now i am here to respond
It could be one of 3 things:
Placebo, you think its not working so it isnt
I have no idea what your doses are but that could be it
Maybe you need to cycle. Personally ive been on it for 4 weeks, thats including the weeks where i slowly increased the dosages, and i feel no need to cycle. But everyones different.
Just because you dont feel it, doesnt mean its not working, so have that in mind
>>35312709
3x bronkaid (25mg e sulphate)
3x 200mg caffeine
everyday
went from 100mg caffiene x3 and 12.5mg bronkaid x3 to the full dosage after one day when i noticed i had no negative effects
>>35312789
I think its all in your head anon, i wouldnt worry. it for sure is working
For future reference with any stim, especially one thats pretty strong like ephedrine, give uour body a week or two to warm up to it. That still shouldnt affect how it works though
>>35298850
people who arent happy being fat fucks at 15-18% bodyfat
go eat a cake, fatty
>>35310336
Natural cut is better for boipucci mode. It's a smoother more feminine cut.
How much weight do you think you could loose in 2 weeks on a EC stack
>>35300334
Well let's be honest. If it's not the United States of American then it really don't matter now does it?
>>35300770
What's the "if 20/4" under the diet?
>>35298839
I was into Dat Der ECA winter cut. Rupture my pectoralis major tendon... having surgery to repair on wednesday. Good my gains....
Vitamart is pretty good. Literally any online supplement store.
Don't go to gnc they're filthy jews and you'll pay way more than you have to
Final day cutting today. Going to take two weeks off for christmas then resume in the new year.
>>35298839
I've been on a cut for nearly 2 years, I still look like shit because i ruined my body before hand.
>>35316802
Take your time man, it takes a while to make it
>>35313870
With a good defecit done right, 6 pounds depending how fat you are
Started my mini cut for the winter when I realized that I was 90kg.
So, what has everyone's weight loss been like since starting an EC stack?
I had a particularly bad year, binge ate a lot and lost a really good job opportunity. can't afford a gym membership because I live in a tourist trap with ridiculous prices.
My weight after I got home from thanksgiving was 202 (5'11" Probably like 23% bf). Decided to try the EC stack and was amazed at how good the hunger suppression is.
I only started mine last week, currently on day 6. Weighed in today at 194.4 lbs. I know a lot of that has to be water weight, but I am seriously convinced this thing is an incredible weight-loss aid. Am I just experiencing placebo effect?
>>35318284
Goddammit
>>35318284
Obviously not a placebo bc you lost all that weight
>>35318535
When will it plateau or slow down? I'm not lifting right now, trying to find a good bodyweight workout.
Can I get an info graphic or something about doing an ec stack?
>>35318565
http://www.hotnfit.com/fat_loss/ecstack.html
everything you need to know.
>>35303396
I used to do 1+ gram/day of caffeine in school. From 1g and onwards you mostly just make yourself nauseous, and you're tired yet can't really relax either.
WEW just got some bronkaid excited to give this a go
>>35316075
intermittent fasting 20 hours off/4 hours on
meaning you can only eat in that 4 hour period
>>35298839
I want to cut from 85kg to 80kg, shall I do an EC stack? Is C$36 decent for 600 8mg ephedrine pills?
>>35300770
>How to kill your heart in two months.
>>35318549
Get gregs bodyweight mastery, look for it on 7chan
Just let it keep doing what its doing, i cant say what it would be bc everyones different
>>35300770
What the fuck, please never ever do this. The risk benefits of doing this is; death, death. So unless you want to kill yourself with metabolic heat, over exertion of your heart, and liver/kidney damage, dont fucking do this anons.
