I need to have 3 cycles of BEP chemo. Survival rates are <99% so no worries there.
But how will it affect my gains? Im 25
>>35288364
><99%
that's a pretty big range of numbers, champ
I just got referred to an oncologist.
Not sure if I should start freaking out or not.
< >99%*
>>35288364
How do people mess up < and >
Apparently it's brain cancer
>>35288447
No.
>>35288454
Yeah probably got it from 4chan.
(Just a typo)
>>35288364
Chemo usually fucks your shit up, you'll probably be too fatigued to even think of lifting, at least until you're no longer on it.
>>35288470
>No.
Hope you're right.
When I googled Enlarged Spleen the results were pretty fucking scary, considering where they are sending me.
eat bitter almonds, wheatgrass and more superfoods and you can beat cancer without that ultra damaging radiation
http://www.amazon.com/Bitter-Almonds-Organic-Kernels-430g/dp/B00CA83XHC
>>35288541
Ghost of Steve Jobs pls go
>>35288364
Hope the same thing that happend to Han in the new Star Wars happens to you
>>35288562
thats actually interesting
i find it hard to believe that a billionare could just die from cancer like that
maybe it was something else
>>35288592
Billionaires that don't listen to their doctors and refuse treatment while their cancer is mostly survivable do indeed die just like that.
Ye your gains will probably be fucked. Friend of mine had testicular cancer this year and he lost all his strength.
>tfw mom just got diagnosed a couple weeks ago as well
>2015 almost 2016
>still getting cancer
I'm taking a wild guess that you're not a vegan?
>>35288511
Best advice i had was not too look it up too much. Youll only drive yourself crazy.
>>35288541
Youre the cancer thats killing cancer patients. Fuck. You. Scum. Of. The. Earth
>>35288364
Kiss them goodbye for the duration of your treatment.
Hopefully you have a super kind doctor who will legit give you steroids to reduce/prevent/avoid muscle wasting.
Good luck. Hope you get some lovely medicinals to combat your nausea!
>>35288605
>mostly survivable
>pancreatic cancer
pick one
>western cancer treatment
>effective
pick one
>>35288364
My sibling did that. You will loose all your gains became you will feel like shit and not want to eat
>>35288644
IIRC it was initially caught very early, then Jobs tried to beat it the faggot way instead of taking large doses of anti-cancer poison.
>>35288644
>non-western cancer treatments
>>35288592
Steve was legendary for being a complete fucking retard about his health
>>35288643
Dat dere sterons?? Super interested. I will bring it up with my doc. I'm from NL so medicinals wont be a probrem.
>>35288654
>Jobs’ cancer had been discovered by chance during a CT scan in 2003 to look for kidney stones, during which doctors saw a “shadow” on his pancreas. Isaacson told CBS’ 60 Minutes last night that while the news was not good, the upside was that the form of pancreatic cancer from which Jobs suffered (a neuroendocrine islet tumor) was one of the 5% or so that are slow growing and most likely to be cured.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/alicegwalton/2011/10/24/steve-jobs-cancer-treatment-regrets/
>>35288665
non-western countries don't eat as much meat and cheese as you fucking western pig skins so they won't ever have to deal with cancer...The best known cancer treatment is going vegan
>>35288680
The only thing I could find said that regular pancreatic cancer had a 5 year survival rate of like 5%. Job's had a 65%.
>>35288665
http://www.canceractive.com/cancer-active-page-link.aspx?n=2917
The chinese/asians are way healthier than the west. Traditional chinese medicine is more effective than wests when it comes to obesity.
http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/research-shows-chinese-methods-work-fighting-obesity-article-1.1125763
>>35288713
>medicine
>obesity
DNP is the ancient Chinese secret?
My mum is undergoing chemotherapy. She feels sick a lot of the time and is almost always tired. Expect to be unable to lift.
>>35288364
>chemo
hope you're ready to hand in your natty card cause that shit ain't natural man
>>35288732
its controversial but obesity is being labeled as a disease now
>>35288696
I've been eating meat my entire life and I never got cancer, checkmate vegans.
>>35288614
>>35288696
being this retarded
>>35288713
Have you actually been to china?
All the food is fat and greasy, everyone smokes.. they grind up rhinohorns as erection pills. Check the air polution index.
40% of all <18 beijing chinese will die prematurily of COPD.
youre buying in into marketing crap.
i went to tokyo after the fukushima 2011 disaster. Cancer rates (esp. Thyroids) are increasing now. First radiation related cancer are emerging.
lets look at the stats in a few years about "healthy asians"
I had testiculair cancer. Its most likely genetics (muh genetics).
>>35288785
http://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/vegetarian-diet-linked-to-lower-colon-cancer-risk-201503117785
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-freston/vegan-diet-cancer_b_2250052.html
>>35288364
nigga u going back 2 square 1
rip gains
>>35288815
Lower relative risk =/= Treatment
>>35288799
Listen, its known the asians are healthier
what you are seeing is the westernization of asia so you will see higher cancer rates and such. And cancer is mainly due to lifestyles not muh genetics.
1/3 japanese men smoke yet you dont see them with the same cancer rates as the west, its lower
>>35288541
Dude not funny, people on here are retarded enough to actually fall for that
>>35288833
This, you might not die but your gains definitely will.
>>35288364
See if the doctors can hook you up with some roids or one of the new SARM studies for muscle retention. You'll be monitored, so it should be safe.
Take care OP
>>35288696
shut up shitskin
>>35288696
funny thing is, all the middle aged people I know who are getting cancer are those who have been the most careful about their meals
100% sure going vegan is going to give you cancer
>>35288644
he found out when it was stage I or II and decided to eat fruit and jerk himself off instead of getting treatment. literal autism on his part
>>35288851
T E A
V E G E TA B L ES
N O T F A T
>>35288364
smoke dank ganja. you'll be able to eat and not nauseous
>>35288851
shut up weeb
>>35288364
>how will it affect my gains?
ah, negatively
>>35289395
>all the middle aged people I know who are getting cancer are those who have been the most careful about their meals
tell me more about how you've been examining all their meals everyday for years to be able to reach this conclusion
>100% sure going vegan is going to give you cancer
yeah because eating natural foods provided by mother nature is gonna harm us more than eating carcass.
If you remove the blind folds you have super glued to your eyes and use common sense it might make a little bit of sense to you. Would you rather pic related or vid related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr-qkiBWKgE
Choice is yours.
>>35288454
>Apparently it's brain cancer
>>35289561
>natural foods provided by mother nature
hahahahahahahahahaaa please be bait or a girl
yeah super natural, picked before they're ripe then ethylated in the back of the transport trucks to artificially ripen them on the way to your grocery store. I bet you also have problems with GMOs you autistic tree hugging fuck
>>35288364
I wonder how much they photoshopped this image.
>>35289690
lol I hit a nerve. Just don't complain when you get cancer. Which is now well deserved since you're no longer ignorant to veganism, but continue to support senseless killing of animals. In the end the animals will get their revenge and that actually makes me feel really good.
>>35289690
People that are against GMOs make me unreasonably angry, they have 0 idea of what genetic modification actually does and how it is performed. A GMO salmon was just recently approved by the FDA (after like 4 years) and people are going insane shouting "frankenfish" and other bull shit while in reality our "sustainable" fishing industries have overfished most of the populations
>>35288713
>herbs and acupuncture
Man fuck penicillin right?
>>35289781
I agree, but your example is bad. For one I assume the GMO salmon you refer to is for fish farming, and that has very little to do with fishing industries and natural populations. Secondly it's not as if fish farming needs GMO to work, though reducing incidences of sickness and the like would be good.
The business practices of certain GMO-companies on the other hand...
>>35288605
actully pancreas cancer has one of the worst prognosis ( chance to survive) of all cancer type even with chemo andsurgery the best the doctors can give you is 1year
>>35289903
see >>35288680, Jobs' silver lining was that his cancer was fairly treatable, and he squandered the opportunity to treat it then and there.
Hey, I had Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma a few years back, chemo is rough, and you'll probably need to sleep for a couple of days after a session, but you can work out, not as hard, not as long, but you can, and I recommend you lift to stay strong. Do it for your sanity and your body, stay strong budeh.
>>35290122
hey man, i'm glad you got through your treatment. Are cancer free now? I'm also interested to know how did you get it diagnosed. Did you find a lump somewhere in your body or have any other symptoms?
>>35288696
>cancer rates significantly increase after 40 for all cancers
>3rd world country average age: 10
But yeah it's because they're mostly vegan.
>>35288364
What kind of cancer you got OP? Male, 25, getting chemo, I'm guessing a Lymphoma of some sorts, Hodgkins perhaps?
>>35288696
>VEGANS BODYBUILDERS ARE JUST AS BIG AND STRONG!! AND THEY'RE HEALTHIER TOO
7 years of lifting + vegan diet = pic related
