What's the trick to building size? Working out for strength is clearly a meme and keeps you looking weak as fuck
>>35271007
4 SCOOPS C'MON
>>35271007
this man benches 2 plates and looks like this
what the fuck bros
>>35271046
lmaoo
>>35271046
Get a load of this guy
>>35271046
That's honestly what the average guy who lifts 2 plates looks like. If you can't bench 2pl8, then you need to finish your first year of SL
>>35271459
dont lie
>>35271500
Where did he lie?
>>35271533
He thinks you need abs to bench 2pl8s
>>35271533
There's people benching 1plate with more size
>>35271578
You do not need a very big chest at all to bench 2pl8. It's barely even an intermediate lift.
>>35271459
This guy barely benches 1.5 plates and looks like this
>>35271646
>2592x1944
...
>>35271646
>no chest, high bf
>vs
>no chest, low bf
>>35271646
I could bench 235 when this photo was taken
>>35271646
Are you talking about 1RM?
Listen to the song "Get Big" by kali muscle and you will have all of your questions answered.
There are many ways to skin a cat.
When I first started like you, I would have wanted to know the best way and I would have asked just as you did.
Looking back, I never listened to any of the best answers, and no one else who makes these threads does either.
So, instead of giving you the best advice for that, I'm going to give you the best advice for life.
>Experiment and learn what you can about your body and how it responds to different calories, foods, reps, sets, rest days, exercises, and all of that other stuff.
Find the answer yourself, because you wouldn't understand what makes the best advice valuable anyway and would mess it up with how you applied it.
Do your own journey and learn your own way. That's all you can do.
>>35271007
Reading the sticky.
>>35271916
the sticky that just tells you to do strength programmes?
>>35271595
>http://www.strengthstandards.co/
>Bodyweight: 80kg
>Bench Press: Intermediate (86 kg)
Intermediate is ~1x bw bench press while advanced is ~1.5x bw, 2plate bench would be exactly between intermediate and advanced for someone weighing 80 kilos.
>>35271007
eat A LOT of fucking food, you idiot
>>35271046
the shape of a body != strength. There are fatties who can bench a lot, because they already have to move their own heavy asses around and such.
>>35271459
I'm a naturally small person, I only weigh 165. Benching a 2pl8 for me, would be decently proficient, you blanket statement whore.
>>35271967
>>35271695 is me about 10 months into stronglifts weighing 170 at 5'11
>>35271967
Eating a lot obviously isn't the whole picture if you can eat loads and strength train and still look shit
>>35271877
best advice.
time.
that's pretty much all there is to it.
if you've been a lazy fuck your entire life you can't expect to look outstanding one or two years later.
and lmao@ people who think training for strength and size are mutually exclusive on a recreational level. you'd be pretty stupid not to do both.
>>35271007
Just workout often. I only bench 1pl8 and look pretty decent (except I have like 20% BF cuz I eat like a fatass and drink on the weekends)
>>35272040
how do you train for size?
>>35272054
>these are the people who give you advice
>>35271046
The majority of strength gains come from your body learning to utilize your nervous system properly. You could have the biggest arms in the world but if every muscle fiber isn't firing in unison you won't lift much. The guy wouldn't even look that bad if he lost a bit of fat and didn't have the excess skin of an ex-fatass, you can already make out the contours of his shoulder muscles under all that crap.
>>35272054
When you guys say 1pl8 or 2pl8s, do you mean 45lb plates?
>>35272082
1pl8 is 135lbs and 2pl8 is 225
>>35272082
Gtfo
>>35272076
how do you just focus on growing muscle rather than nervous system efficiency?
>>35272082
luuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrkkkkk moaaaaaaaaaarrr
>>35272076
lel at trihex. What year is that?
>>35272095
High reps. Work out like a body builder instead of like a power lifter.
>>35272114
>>35272094
I'm lurking, man. But no amount of lurking is going to answer this question for me, unless someone answers it directly. Would you rather I just shitpost or misinform like a lot of the content here seems to be?
>>35272087
So 45s. That's what I figured. Thank you.
>>35272056
sticky etc.
but for real,
recent reseach indicates that muscle size will come no matter what rep range you choose to train with provided you actually push yourself. and since a strong muscle is also a big muscle i would recommend less reps for big muscles (training for strength) and more reps for smaller ones (''''hypertrophy'''')
in reality it's not that simple since each group of muscles holds different types of muscle fibers (slow twitch, fast twitch and their rather varied undercategories) and to know which muscle responds best to which rep range you would have to get each muscle group analyzed separately (pic semi related).
but unless you want to be an ifbb pro you can just put that thought aside.
bottom line, lift heavy but don't cheap out on your bro-zones. do your damn 5x5 squats and do your curls too.
and don't expect to get shit for free. this takes more time that people want it to.
people who bench usually do low reps and not very diverse training
I'm not saying do crossfit, but benching is a retarded ego lift that will kill your soul
the problem is that no one will listen because MUH BENCH STATS!
>>35272162
forgot the pic
>>35272170
how do i know your bench sucks?
>>35272170
kill yourself
>>35272180
>>35272179
thanks for demonstrated the predicted butthurt, guys.
This guy benches 2 pl8s
>>35272201
why butthurt? you haven't found a magical substitute for the bench. you have most likely just told yourself a story justifying why you don't bench.
what is it that you can do that someone who has learned how to bench can't?
>>35271046
>2pl8s bench
>strong
Pls don't be this new, also that's probably his 1RM (with egolifter form i guess) and not even a 3x5 or a 5x5. He is still a newbie and looks like a newbie
>>35272222
Is benching good for your quads?
>>35272147
do a hypertriohy routine mate. ABxABxx or ABCxABCx. And eat at a surplus with sufficient carbs and proteins. nigguh it ain't hard, really. Oh the biggest thing is consistancy and dedication. gl m8
>>35272248
yes. it's classified as a quad isolation movement, don't you know?
>>35272386
bait harder friend
>>35272386
surely you're joking.
calling it a ''stupid lift'' is no critique. that's namecalling at best.
you're not even capable of properly justifying it. if you don't want to bench, say you don't want to bench. but don't pretend your chest is something that is beyond the reaching of petty flat benchers (who btw can incorporate all the assistance exercises they choose).
stop it with the nonsense.
lifting heavy builds muscle is a meme
>>35271007
im tired of you fools who think you cant lift for both at the same time... lift heavy then do your accessories it really is that simple
>>35271007
I think rest-pause type work with heavy weights, and AMRAP sets at around 80-90% on the main lifts are great. Also lots of weighted dips, weighted pullups, RDLs, rows, etc. Stay away from lighter weights and isolation movements. Also eat a fuckload. If you're afraid of losing your abs you won't ever grow
