Bulk or Cut? 6ft 150 pounds down from 230. I have some loose skin.
>>35253228
grandma?
>>35253228
loose skin on stomach
definitiey bulk dude, sorry to be rude but you would look like absolute shit if you cut now
I feel your pain on the loose skin OP, luckily you probably look fine in a shirt. I would say bulk, start packing some muscle onto that chest, even if you lose more weight it's just going to make your body look wonkier. Eat big, get big, don't be afraid if some of the fat comes back, as long as you lift frequently and hard you will just be builtfat then you can cut down later. You need to fill in that looseness
>>35253253
I was leaning towards clean bulking around .5 pounds a week.
>>35253266
Alright, Thanks.
>>35253273
Yeh I mean I think the human body can only add 1/2 to 1 pound of muscle a week so just eat like 500 calories over your TDEE and lift hard. Godspeed anon, come back in a year and make us proud
Losing 150 pounds is absolutely remarkable. You should be proud of yourself.
Now work the fuck out and put on some weight, you're 6' and only 130.
>>35253382
He lost 80 pounds
>>35253382
He lost 80, he's down to 150 from 230
If he lost 150 he'd probably look way worse and also be dead because he'd weigh 80 pounds
>>35253382
what is math
I don't get it. Why drop a shitload of weight so fast that you get loose skin if you're gonna consider bulking back up anyway? Couldn't OP just start lifting while he was fat?
>>35253228
Are you stupid?
Why would you cut down to 150?
You should have stopped cutting at 180 and started fucking lifting.
>>35253228
>>35253228
Should've lifted on the way down as you've successfully cut down to skinny fat, it would've made your body composition drastically better. You need to go to maintenance calories and start lifting hard or like a +300 slow bulk, because you are still carrying excess fat.
Also COCO BUTTER AND WATER LIKE YOUR FUCKING LIFE DEPENDS ON IT
Dear gawd. You look like a saggy old lady.
>>35253228
how long did it take u and what did u do.
>>35254432
Took around 8 months and I just ate less
>>35254450
school lunch? and not cardio? i am 235 around there.
>i know a kid who lost 100 lb in 2months staving himself becuase of depression of a break up
>>35254450
I'm 190 down from 287 and I have no where near as much loose skin as you doing the exact same thing.
This is why you lose the weight slowly. I have some stretch marks and no loose skin after dropping 100lbs
>>35253638
He was not going to get any muscle while losing weight anyway
Your body can only do one thing at a time, burn fat or build muscle
>>35254491
u wot
>>35254450
What did you eat
I'm guessing not much protein?
>>35254491
Nice meme
>>35254470
I have always been pretty weak, even when I was fat. You probably have much more muscle.
>>35254491
Im down 70lbs and am noticeably more muscular and stronger then I was.
>>35254469
I just ate what I normally did in less quantity. I wouldn't recommend it as you just become a smaller version of your fat self. Just weightlift.
Almost always the answer is bulk. So eat and lift
>>35254491
By building muscle you increase how much fat your body burns, it's pretty simple you can do both by just lifting and not being a fucking weeb who diets, doesn't exercise and expects massive gains
You started at 6' 230 and your skin is that saggy?
I started at 5'11 220 and have no trace of loose skin
>>35254499
I just ate normally, so a lot of junk.
>>35254518
Yeah I would say if I dropped down to 150 I would be a skeleton, probably need to be 170 or so.
Do you not atleast have strong legs from being a fatty?
>>35254542
I think the sag is there because there is nothing left to support it. I think once he gets muscle he will look normal.
>>35254563
My legs are strong as fuck. My current squat is 225 5x5.
So would a relatively fat/light obese person be better off just lifting hard, then cutting later and losing all the fat?
I'm in the same boat as OP, except fortunately (no offense OP) my body doesn't look too crazy, except I still have some love handles and a little loose skin. No boobs or anything. I wonder if I should have just lifted hard instead of dieting and running, and seen where that takes me
>>35254618
OP here.
learn from my mistake and lift while cutting.
>>35254589
>225 5x5
>strong as fuck
>>35254551
Define junk
Like soda and Mcdonald's?
>>35254657
Strong compared to my 115 bench =)
>>35254642
I've already lost the weight, 110lbs since March. I wish I'd have known as well
>>35254657
225
KILOS!!!!
>>35254663
No soda or fast food, just too many carbs with not enough protein. The worst thing was not lifting while losing weight.
>>35254667
I think if we gain some weight back in muscle everything will tighten up. Good luck. We're all gonna make it. =)
>>35254695
But I still have love handles and want to keep cutting ;_;
Christ what do I do
>>35254672
well shit if its kilos im impressed
>inb4 stupid ameritard
>>35253781
why coco butter?
>>35254745
Just fucking bulk already you shit
When you get mass on other places your belly pudge won't be as noticeable
>>35254764
It's moisturizing
>>35253228
good job OP .
I my self have just lost 22 kilos in about 4 months and I'm currently eating just below maintenance.
for you I'd recommend working out hard 5+ days a week and eat around 2800 calories a day.
it must be a nightmare with all that loose skin, I was lucky and didn't get any.
don't let these idiots you lost the weight too fast that's why you have loose skin, thats just bullshit. it's genetics and there is nothing you can do about it.
keep up the good work, build some muscle fill out a bit and come back in a few months so we can see your progress.
>>35254792
Thanks man
I lost ~200lbs over the course of 2 1/2 years by just not eating fast food and going out a little more.
Plateaued, am currently at 268lbs (6'2" M)
What's some good advice in my situation, I work from home and am a fulltime student. don't have a lot of free time. Any diet modifications I can make? I cut out white bread and sugary shit completely, drink only water, rarely milk.
what are you going to cut skinny man?
>>35254589
>>35253228
I lost 65kg in a year and the loose skin is horrible and doesn't go away with age (I lost weight when I was 16-17)
Losing weight slowly won't decrease chance of loose skin its all genetics
Also coco butter is a meme don't pay for shit that doesn't work only thing that works is surgery
It's all down to genetics and how fat u got
>>35253669
ahah... this!
>>35255238
Go to a gym
>Student and work no time
Bullshit that is an excuse, I am a full time student with a 40 hr a job week and I still make time to go to the gym 6 days a week, if you can browse fit you can workout also calorie count. And if you don't want to do those two options then fuck off cause those are the obvious answers you knew before asking the question.
How fast did you lose the 80 pounds?
I just started doing C25K (www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_3/181.shtml) and cutting from 211 pounds
>>35254491
That's a myth
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/gain-muscle-and-lose-fat-at-the-same-time/
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/energy-balance-myths/
>>35255605
>>35255968
>>35254792
>its all genetics
You sound just as retarded as fat sjw tunblrinas to me
I lost 100 pounds and look amazing because I didnt do it like a dumbass. Actually took my time, about 4-5 years of eating healthy and consistently.
Loose skin is a result of dropping weight too fast and thats final. It probably took you a decade to even get that fat so how retarded must one be to think it can all get back to normal within the span of a few months
>>35253228
Why the long chest?
>>35256568
It's definitely not all genetics but they do have an effect (not sure to what extent), I'm pretty sure other factors matter a lot more (e.g. age, smoking status etc.).
>>35256568
But it is genetics you retarded fucking monkey
Your little anecdote doesn't prove shit
>>35256648
Back to Tumblr you sorry sack of shit. Genetics don't determine anything but a range of possibilities. It's your behavior, environment and mindset that determine the final outcome.
May I suggest reading up on epigenetics.
Also the levels of mad you're exhibiting here are a telltale sign of you subconsciously knowing you're full of shit
>>35256718
He's not the one using personal anecdote as some kind of scientific proof.
>>35253669
every
single
time
Seriously guys, if you're not sure just keep on lifting.
>>35256718
>genetics dont determine anything
this is how i know you're a dumbass
>>35253228
You look absolutely horrible. You're proof that even if obese people lose weight, they cannot undue the permanent damage they've already inflicted on themselves.
>>35258638
ehh, I think I can fix it just fine.
>>35258638
Everyone can get better my friend
>>35253228
You look like Jason blaha
>>35253228
Start lifting. Damn
>>35258638
You do realise there is surgery to fix excessive loose skin
>>35258713
How tall are you?
>>35253228
Does not lifting cause people to get loose skin? I lost 140 pounds in a year and a half and I have no loose skin. But I lifted.
>>35258974
Lifting definitely helps you fill out the fat lost with some muscle, you also probably lost the weight a lot slower than OP and have different genetics
>>35259000
I lost it pretty slowly for the first year because I was taking lithium. It affects nutrient partitioning, thyroid function, and insulin sensitivity. Once I got off it I lost 90 pounds in 6 months. A little faster than OP. I guess it's genetics.
>>35256568
you just discovered that your skin genetics are good.
It all depends on your body type and how you store fat .
loosing weight slowly is just a meme.
>tfw you will realize you wasted alot of time cutting slowly.
>>35259025
Yeah probably, but OP hasn't mentioned how long it took him to lose the weight... He also might've used DNP, I haven't seen anyone else that cut from 230 with that much loose skin.
>>35259056
He said it took him about 8 months here >>35254450
>>35259045
It also depends on how long you were fat for, the longer you've been fat the more likely it is that your skin is permanently stretched out.
>>35259045
loosing weight slowly is just a meme.
>tfw you will realize you wasted alot of time cutting slowly.
Your skin isn't magic, it can't always "snap back" fast enough when you're losing a lot of weight.
Eat a big Mac grandma
>>35259142
yeah I know that, but what difference dose it make if you loose it quick or slow, what's the science behind the top kek meme slow cut = no loose skin.
skin is very elastic will eventually go back to normal size, if you fucked up like op and got super fat to begin with I doubt it could be fixed slow or fast cucut regardless.
that shit needs surgery .
>>35253669
Fucking this. OP, you look like such shit because you didn't lift while "cutting".
Wow
>>35253228
Bulk. Congrats on losing the weight but I'm 5'9 an be even I weigh 160 without being all that muscular.
>>35258962
6ft
Blaha Jr.
Blaha
Speed of weight loss makes no fucking difference whatsoever, apart from maybe softening the blow. 80 pounds in 6 months plus 80 pounds at a new weight is effectively the same as losing 80 pounds over a year - isn't it?
There's no study or anything that shows it makes any difference. Cocoa butter won't make a goddam difference either. So much momscience.
>>35256568
You're a fucking retard. If you lost the 100 pounds in a day and then waited 5 years, your skin would get back to where it is as well. It doesn't tighten up any faster or slower just because you're waiting for it.
>>35254745
Nigga I can see your ribs. Fucking lift. Accept that you'll look like absolute shit for the next 6-12 months. You should have lifted from day 1.
Bulk, the muscles will grow into the loose skin
>>35254470
I'm 205 down from 295, started on Jan 1st 2014. I have some loose skin but not massive amounts.
My plan is to break sub 200, then think about my next goals.. never even thought i could manage to shift 50lb and keep it off, nevermind 90lbs as i have tried before and failed.
I just got angry with how much of a disgusting fat slob i am, and still am. Trying to do something about it.
Not sure if i should get to 185lb and then start lifting frequently, or if i should start a serious ruotine once i hit about 195lb
I'm kind of old though and its showing and im feeling it.. (30yo)
Thinking about taking up boxing though. mainly for self defence and fitness reasons, seems pointless till i can get my cardio upto snuff though and am able to jog a few miles or skip on the spot for like 10 minutes.
>>35253228
dude how old are you?
>>35263513
you should have started lifting at 295
stop with this fucking "I should wait until I lose the fat" shit or you're just pointlessly wasting time you could have been becoming a sick cunt
>>35256568
but it is genetics u retard
you just had good genetics for ur skin
just like I have a very squared jaw and other people have shitty round jaws
>>35256568
post pics since you look so amazing
>>35253660
Not OP but I went from 300 to 150 before I discovered lifting. Didn't know better at the time but lifting has helped the loose skin a lot.
OP did good.
I started lifting when i first dropped around 10lb and desu, i hurt my knee doing squats with only basically 50lb, and i hurt my back moving furnature, and my wrists doing push ups.
I'd built up over 6 weeks or so and maybe i was progressing too fast or something for my relative unfitness..
I thought, fuck, i should probably lose around 50lb before i start doing this shit as my limbs cant take it.
I have a weird body, ie weird wrists that are like spindles 6 inch circ wrists with like 12 and a half inch circ forearms, my legs are similar.
Most of the weight i had and still have is on my mid riff, chest and upper thighs.
I'm hoping because i have odd proportions, wide as fuck shoulders and very short legs despite being 6.0ft once i can bulk up a bit ill probably look sick as fuck. Those small wrists make my forearms look massive without even really ever touching weights, cant imagine how they would look if i could add an inch or two on them.
Perhaps i should start lifting now then at 205, its just 199lb is a big milestole in my head, at 195lb im down 100lb.
That will be a big day psychologically for me.
I just dont feel mobile enough or fit enough to start lifting proper, really feel like i could do with dropping another 30lb or so then im seriously considering doing some running and taking up boxing.
>>35263830
was a responce to
>>35263599
Is there a definitive source on loose skin knowledge that can answer all my questions?
>Does the speed of the weight loss significantly affect your skin?
>Do genes play any role in getting loose skin or avoiding it?
>Does lifting from day one actually affect your skin aside from "filling" the loose skin?
>>35263871
Genetics is probably a major factor i would have thought.
Fact of the matter is, some types of exercise are fucking hard as fuck on your joints when you are like 300lbs.
Running when you weigh 300lbs at 5.10ft or something is probably not a great idea.
>>35263830
tldr of your post:
>I did a bunch of shit wrong
>denial
>excuses
Thanks for playing.
>>35263901
We're talking about lifting weights. That's a low-to-no-impact activity. The entire point of lifting weights is that it consists of a bunch of movements that you can add extra weight to. Extra weight won't make it more dangerous to perform an exercise whose goal is to add extra weight.
How fucking hard is this to understand?
Yes, of course, lardasses shouldn't run. Ironically I see people telling fat fucks to run and avoid weights way more often than the exact opposite. People are retarded.
>>35263937
Not sure what i did wrong, i started out slow, got upto like 50lb squats and shit, 120b deadlifts, few dozen pushups a day started getting injuries, form check'd and everything, seemed ok.
I put it down to being a 285lb fatass squating 50lb, deadlifting >100lb and doing pushups when ive been unfit as fuck my whole life and my joints are shit.
Thought it was best losing another 50lb before i tried again thinking, well fuck i was carrying that 50lb around anyway, if i can squat 50lb at 280lb, i should be able to squat 130lb at 200lb without issue and work up from that, prob best to stick to whats working, which was cutting and worry about lifting when im not actually fucking hurting myself lifting babby weights.
>>35253287
>1 pound a week
>52/25 lbs/kg a year
Stupid or trolling ?
>>35263937
Ok i'll accept your answer and hold my hands up. I'm a fucking retard but im trying.
Should i start lifting again now at 205lb.. or should i stick with my plan to get down to 185lb and start jogging on off days and lifting every other day whilst upping my calories slightly and increasing my protein?
Is losing another 20lb really going to matter that much in the grand scheme of things now? Or is starting sooner the best option?
I have weight at home, can start in like 2 weeks when i have cleared some space in the garage and set them up.
Have enough free time to lift at least an hour 5 days a week, and probably enough time to add 30 mins cardio to that too.
As i said, i still just dont feel ready to start yet, 205lb still feels wrong to me. I feel like im still 20lb out of my comfort zone to approach this like i have the weight loss over these few years.
I want to stick this out, not get injured and get frustrated.
>>35253245
your stomach looks like its making that george costanza face tbqh
also slow bulk, your only option really
>>35253240
ooo ho ho ho ho!
you funny guy
>>35253228
> Blaha went off roids
