how long it took you to drop from 15% bodyfat to 10%?
>>35204809
1 month.
I was pretty slim, it was only a matter off adding muscle and the noob gains did the job of dropping the fat.
i went from 24ish to 12 in like 3 months.. but my last comp test I lost 5 lbs of muscle and and 5lbs of fat... so I gotta eat more or not do cardio...
you can do it fast if you don't give shit about losing muscle.
>>35204860
problem is I need the triceps.
>>35204809
That's a weird file name.
And...it's not that hard at all. It takes like 6-8 weeks if you're willing to do cardio and really get strict about nutrition. The challenge is keeping muscle while you're cutting. That could take a natty anywhere from 4-5 months since you can't deprive yourself without losing tons of size.
>>35204860
What if I want to lose as little as possible?
I did an aggressive cut last year and ended up looking like shit for summer, so I don't want to do the same again
>>35204965
natty? as in natural?
Around 2 months. I was pretty when I was cutting I think did it for about half the year cos of my retarded dreamer bulk
>>35205011
*pretty slow
>>35204824
Pics or it didn't happen
You probably dropped from 14 to 12 or something
5% of your body weight is a lot to lose
>>35204996
No, as in Natalie Hershlag. It takes her a long time to prep for her roles without losing too much muscle mass.
>>35205011
Dreamer bulk?
Never. I can get down to 12-13% then I hit a major genetic wall that I can't break past no matter what. I'm not saying it's impossible, just ridiculously difficult and virtually unachievable for me without gear.
>>35205448
Literally nonsensical. One of the worst excuses I've ever heard. The Hodge Twins used to say the same thing before they discovered IF. And the thing about IF is that it mainly works because you just eat less food.
EAT. LESS. FOOD.
That's it. It's not rocket science. You'll lose muscle with it but fucking hell, that's what happens when you're natty.
>>35205797
IF is amazing for satiety and hunger suppression, and it supposedly gives you a small hormonal edge as well
>>35205448
>it's genetic's fault
>>35204824
close to impossible without clen or steroids, you're overestimating the bf% change
going from 15% to 10% requires multiple kilos of less fat and you're saying you built some muscle at the same time?
Got a question related to this:
>Be 5'9" 145lbs,
>Used to weigh 180lbs with more than 25% bodyfat around 6 months ago
>Started lifting along with a cut
>Still stuck at around 17% bodyfat
>All lifts have stalled: 135lbs bench, 165lbs squats, 225lbs deadlift...
Should I continue cutting till I'm at 8-10% or should I start a recomp?
Most calculators put my TDEE at around 2500-2700 but I only eat around 1800 calories a day right now since I really wanna get that fat off.
>>35205996
Clem doesn't even do anything beyond suppress hunger lest you're in your last 2 weeks of contest prep and stacking large doses of AAS
BUt yeah that kid clearly overestimated the change in %bf
I can't lose the last pound, I'll say it again, the last POUND, not 5, not 10, not 20, the last motherfucking pound of fat I have left in my underbelly.
I only eat meat, fruit (bananas, apples, oranges) and drink skimmed milk and water, nothing else, I run 45 minutes a day and then hit the gym on no breakfast as soon as I wake up. I bench 200lbs, daily, but I can't go any higher due to the diet.
What the FUCK do I do now /fit/?
Any tips?
>>35206081
Eat less fat fuck
Okay help me out.
I'm 5'10'' 170 lbs
I'm currently sitting at around 14% body fat but I'd like to drop that down to about 9% or 10%.
I obviously need to retain as much muscle as possible as I'm not very big.
How would you go about cutting if you were in my shoes?
>>35206018
Yea but you don't have to get to 8-10, make it 10-12.
Your TDEE is far lower than 27-2800 unless you have an extremely active job. More like 24-2500.
You can cut on a 750 deficit no problem at your beginner stage and still make gains, so aim for 1600 calories per day and start doing intermittent fasting and lift 3-4 days per week.
Aim to get 120-130 grams of protein.
Don't go heavy on any lifts more than twice per week.
You'll make gains.
>>35205797
How do I into IF when I lift around noon? I'm worried my lifts/recovery will suffer if I miss breakfast and I dont have the time to wait for my lunch to get digested and lift in the afternoon/evening.
>>35206081
>I only eat meat, fruit (bananas, apples, oranges) and drink skimmed milk and water, nothing else
Whatever you're eating now, eat 85% as much of it as opposed to whatever constitutes 100% at present.
You will lose weight. It is physically impossible for your body to not lose weight.
>>35206151
Eat your last meal at 5pm and eat breakfast at 8-9 the following morning before your workout
>>35206151
Read the guide on Martin Berkhan's website, LeanGains.com
>>35205913
The fuck does IF even stand for?
>>35206196
Instantaneous Flatulence. It's a high fiber diet popular with vegans like the Hodge Twins.
>>35206229
holy kek
>>35206164
>>35206103
Fuark
Goodbye apples and bananas then, only meat and oranges
>>35206229
Thanks.
Anybody got a real answer?
>>35206196
Impotence Fitness. It's basically no-fap but you also submerge your testes in ice water several times a week to prevent the urges.
>>35206294
Intermediate Failure. It means you give up as soon as you make some progress.
>>35206294
Intermittent fucking. It's a good way to get in cardio in an interval fashion and also lets you ejaculate without the negative affect on testosterone that fapping always causes.
>>35206196
Invincible Ferret.
>>35206322
Dubs don't lie.
>>35206151
I always lift fasted, it doesn't make a difference. Don't do cardio fasted though.
>>35206294
intermittent fasting
>>35206116
Eat less moron (-10 / -20 % of TDEE)
>>35206373
Thanks for not being a dick. I'll look into Intermittent Fasting. Been trying to cut for the past 2 months and I haven't really been seeing a big difference other than losing strength.
>>35206229
Holy fuck lmfaooo my nigger
>>35206394
http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html
>>35206171
>>35206180
Will do, thanks.
>>35206373
>Don't do cardio fasted though.
What's the difference? I need carbs for cardio?
>>35206523
>What's the difference? I need carbs for cardio?
Basically yes
>>35204809
takes me about 2-3 weeks
>>35206589
Hello, 80 lb midget
Nowhere near as long as it is taking me to drop TO 15% body fat
Down from 32% 23%, it has taken 5 months...
>>35206133
I'm actually in the same boat as you. I've been in limbo for a very long time. Once I got to to 15% bf It's been so hard to cut further, I think I reached 13% bf, but got so much frustrated at my weak lifts that I started doing recomp.
I may have to adjust since I think I accidentally bulked, since I gain weight, some are muscles and some are fat.
Anons, how about from 20%~25% to around 15%?
>>35207774
Depends how big you are. Average about 2 months though
>>35206151
Lifting fasted is goat
>>35205030
Kek, underrated post.
My deficit calorie amount is between 1400-1600. I'm not going to kill myself reaching a specific number.
I'm not having trouble reaching the goal but how do you get in 140-160 grams of protein in that? Just eat breasts with nothing else?
>>35211665
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>>35211665
You don't need 160g of protein--even on a cut--unless you're 320 lb of muscle.
Most people are overpaying for protein in any form, and this includes whey, which is dirt cheap compared to most cuts of meat.
What you want are BCAAs. Jason Blahahaha the autistic wonder made a decent video about this--how people are overpaying for protein when the part of protein they actually need and use is the BCAAs, which are super cheap and super low in calories. Too lazy to find it for you but he made sense for once. Search YouTube.
>>35204809
Took 3 months of *very* strict IF to go from 15 to 10. I was paranoid about losing lean bodymass so I kept a deficit of 1/2 lb per week.
Felt amazing to be there, though. Currently ~14% on a permabulk. See you at 18%.
>>35207324
>5months for 32% to 23%
lmao you couldve done that way faster
>>35204809
I am already on a caloric deficit of 60%, often just get up in the night because of hunger, barely keeping myself above starvation level.
But this still isnt fast enough, so I read about the ice pack treatment. Apparently it works with others, but anyone has tried it?
Guys, how hard is it ACTUALLY to keep muscles?
I feel like it's really easy but I want to really push the calories to make it go faster
also I hate lifting during a cut, if I do 6 excersises รก 4 sets on a bulk, would 2 sets be enough or do I HAVE to do 3 to not lose muscles?
>this is a retarded question obviously but I hope there's an answer to it
