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Losing fat is so fucking easy yet they make it seem so hard. Losing 20 pounds is a joke compared to gaining 20 pounds of solid muscle, yet you don't hear us bitching and moaning about it.
Cool story bro
>eating is hard
give up and kill yourself
I constantly bitch and moan about it
>>35198806
His new video on reacting to that other guys' weight loss really annoys me.
I mean, yes, it might be hard to eat a little less, but people like him have BMRs of 3000+
He has a dickton of health issues and he says he can't lose the 100 pounds required for weight loss surgery because of mental issues.
And also, being "inspired" by the video, he's now going to do yoga to lose weight?! WTF
>>35198806
holy god this fat fucker
he lost 40 pounds in a year like what the fuck thats nothing
i dont know why he cant just eat less
>>35198806
Because they're addicted to food. Some people quit smoking easily, all you do is smoke less and less everyday. For others they keep pushing it back until they think it's too late, kind of like Boogie.
I don't want to make a new thread for this so I'll ask it here
I weight 196 (started at 220) but my body fat % is 27.5
Would I be better off to lose more weight by continuing with cardio or could I start lifting now and go for muscle mass? Does it make a difference? Will I lose BF% faster by lifting, I really don't know much about fitness and that's why I'm an obese manbaby like boogie
>>35198806
It's more harder to break out of the the mentality of gluttony and actually believing that they themselves could actually lose wait
>>35199434
Lifting is a good habit. You will not see much weight progression on a deficit, but you will learn good form & routines and set the routine. I've gone from 220-150 myself with a few false starts and stops... all because I didn't back up my progress with a permanent lifestyle change. If you don't end up with a hobby you love, you'll just gain it back.
>>35199434
go for cardio you pleb and eat well
reduce your body fat. Get rid of it entirely then think about bulking and bear mode when you are down to 12%-15% body fat or so.
You will feel better, you wont look like an autistic nerd with man boobs and beer belly in a gym.
Also bulking and making transition into lifting heavier will be easier because you are simply more fit.
TL;DR
reduce body fat first
then start thinking about becoming a bear or go into small gains/cutting and get the fitness model look
>>35199434
>I really don't know much about fitness
At least you found /fit/
Step 1
>read the sticky + wiki
>read the reddit sticky aswell not even bad i can tell you i read it
>watch videos on how to cook in bulk and have healthy food on stock at home there are plenty
>google for /fit/ recipes and find some old big threads with decent recipes for more variety
thats just the first steps but make these adjustments and get into the theory of it all before so you know whats happening inside your body and what you are eating
gl .. we all gonna make it
>>35199434
You must be pretty fucking short senpai. You were a short little fat man.
>>35199526
>tfw waiting
>>35198806
Losing fat is easy once you can control your natural sugar/fat adiction. Almost all procesed food has fat and sugar, and guess what? the human body is made so that we seek for food made from 50% fat and 50% sugar, shit is addictive.
>>35198841
>not eating is hard
>>35200172
> the human body is made so that we seek for food made from 50% fat and 50% sugar
>50% fat
>50% sugar
seriously are you fucking retarded?
who the fuck told you this?
You realize most people that walked this planet at one point or another never heard or ate sugar in their lives?
Its a relatively new meme in the history of mankind.
>>35200188
>naturally occurring sugars do not exist
>>35200188
>fruits dont contain sugar
>>35200235
>>35200241
they do but nowhere near to the extent people consum them nowadays you retard
>natural sugar addiction
seriously kill yourself if you believe this meme
god damn fat americans and their excuses
>>35200037
I'm 5'11, i'm just the human version of the pillsberry dough boy
>>35198806
>>35198918
>"try not to eat anything tonight"
kekarooni>
>>35200248
Thats several.degrees from "never ate sugar in their lives" faget
>>35198806
It's just an addiction. Shits hard to get off of, and it looks real easy to do when you're not addicted. It's like smoking. Super easy to tell someone "just stop smoking". It's physically easy to just not light a cigarette, just like it's physically easy to just eat less, and when you do eat, eat something healthy.
I do agree though. Just gotta remember that it's all mental.
>>35198918
He ate 2 large pizzas with OLIVES and 2 LARGE sodas.
Fatty doesn't give a shit.
>>35199045
he has video game addiction and he always has his friends around. That's why he never changes.
>>35200185
To eat less, you have to fight off millions of years of evolution that caused your body to want to eat as much as it can get it's mouth on.
To eat more, you just have to give your body exactly what it wants.
Fat acceptance is retarded and you can lose weight hella fast if you know what you're doing (which is actually problem 2, since the food industry is sure to put misinformation at every corner).
The actual hard thing about getting muscle is keeping the discipline, not eating. Skellies are the ones who are pretty much failing a free pass test.
>>35200188
http://www.nature.com/scientificamerican/journal/v309/n3/full/scientificamerican0913-44.html
Sugar and fat exist in nature, however, sugar AND fat on the same food was extremely rare for our ancestors, so our body developed a need for them, one where we must consume it to get all that energy. Nowdays we can just go to a near store and get it. the more the Ratio is near to 50% 50% the more our body likes it.
>>35198806
I think it's hilarious that I so easily go on bulks, and on cuts, and on bulks, and back to cuts...back and forth back and forth, losing and gaining so easily and exactly how much i expect to lose and to gain...
these fucks need to d/l myfitnesspal or something idk
>>35202847
/Thread
>>35198806
you have this whole board and infinite webpages for bitching about it
(same goes for HAES bullshit .. different board, different infinite amount of webpages and blogs)
>>35203146
tried, doesn't work on my phone
any other app? mfp is superious because it's database afaik
btw being fat is easy - you brain sees sugar and goes into short circuit
it can hear commands from the consciousness, but doesn't react
when i'm in charge, everything is fine ... when brain goes short i can fuck it with a rake and it'll continue to eat
best way to diet is to keep an empty fridge with vegs only (too bad i'm not in charge of our fridge)
>>35202830
>He has a video game addiction therefore he can't make progress
Tell that to my gains m8, his weight issue is deeper than his hobbies.
>>35202847
This
I've never been fat, but FUCK i hate cutting.
Even if it's a slow and small one.
The thinking "doing something is harder than not doing something" is fucking retarded.
Then stop breathing you fucking tit, it's much easier.
>>35202830
Video game addiction is how I lost weight for wrestling. Its pretty easy to not eat when you are distracting yourself unless you have 0 selfcontrol for your goal.
>>35198918
Calculated it dont know his height or weight but I assume that he is 5'9.
>at 300lbs hes daily needs are 3400kcal
>at 400lbs hes daily needs are 4000kcal
He eats more than the avarage fitizen just to MAINTAIN. What an absolute madman
>>35202847
I have an easier time not eating than eating. Going a day with just 1 meal or no meal at all is no issue for me. The issue of cutting vs bulking is most likely a subjective matter.
>>35198806
When I started working out I was surprised how easy I lost weight by just doing cardio and still eating the same exact shit. Once I reached a plateau, then I changed something. I did a slower progress, but each time I overcame a plateau I could see for myself how many small things can really affect your body and your strength.
>>35203309
>unless you have 0 selfcontrol
I believe this is the real issue for these fatties. They're spoiled babies.
This is me:
>muscle and strength was given to me.
>I cant remember really pursuing strength or size
>But for example, when I just started going to they gym again I started on bench at 225 3x5
>I understand that this is a life goal for some
>on the other hand I am FAT. I need to lose about 70 more pounds. I lost 10 already.
>That 10 took me about 2 months.
>That that is 1.25 lbs / week
>70/1.25 = 56 weeks
>1.07 years
>FUCK
>>35202847
>people evolved to eat as much as possible
nope lel
>>35199526
>lose wait
sides
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I don't know if I was ever addicted to food, but the hardest part for me was just getting started.
Once the ball was rolling, keeping momentum was really easy because there's just 2 choices.
>Give up and accept you will live and die as a blob
>Carry on and reap the rewards of a normal human
Even if you fall off the wagon, the choice is still there. If you choose the wrong option, then you don't want it badly enough.
>>35198918
link to the vid please
>>35200248
You are seriously retarded. Sugar is still sugar even if it's natural and from a fruit. No one was even talking about white sugar.
his thanksgiving photos are fucking infuriating
>not a single green veggie
>MACARONI AND FUCKING CHEESE FOR THANKSGIVING
>full sugar huge cans of "energy drinks"
this is what happens when you surround yourself with mediocre people who never drive you to improve
>so fat his belly almost touches the floor when sitting
>>35207368
Why is there one cute girl?
Is she seem cute because shes surrounded by fatties?
>>35204485
Eating more and working out is a whole lot easier than eating less and working out you smelly skelly. Go home and starve yourself.
>I have decent lifts and now I am ready to cut
>But I am so afraid I will lose all my progress so my attempts to cut do shit all
>106kg 6'2, 3 plate bench, nearly 2 plate OHP 4 plate dead and squat
The only time I have ever lost a lot of weight was by the starve myself and cardio method.
Is it worth it in my case to do this? I want to drop to 95ish maybe 90kg.
Will I really lose that much muscle or is that a meme?
I just want to see my abs for once
>>35207489
see her here: >>35207389
she's a 5
>>35207368
jesus christ dude it's fucking thanksgiving lighten up a little
>>35207636
>2 plate OHP
mirin' if not e-stating
>>35207664
Not estating
Did a 95kg OHP for 1 last week To me that's close to 100kg.
>>35198806
Losing weight is hard as fuck actually. I've been on a 1k calorie deficit for 6 months and only lost 2kg
>>35207706
Then you need to learn how to count retard.
>>35207735
Fuck off, I've been weighing my food and using calorie calculators as well at the nutritional info on any boxes. I'm 100% sure I'm in deficit
>>35207762
Then you are 100% a retard. If you were at a 1k deficit you would lose a kg every 4 days. Never gonna make it.
>>35207792
Human body doesn't work that way bro.
>'M-muh thermodynamics'
>>35207762
Are you sure your TDEE is correct?
>>35207823
6'6"
315lbs
Light exercise each day
My TDEE should be around 3300
I'm eating 2000 cals a day
>>35207850
>my TDEE should be 3300
>but I only eat 2000 and I don't lose weight!
Either you are lying about how much you eat or your TDEE is wrong, your body doesn't defy the laws of physics regardless of what a special snowflake your mom tells you that you are.
>>35207850
Honestly bro? If you're not EXTREMELY serious about retaining muscle mass, just eat on a massive deficit. I lost a ton of weight by eating like one 900 calorie meal a die plus a light snack. My maxes went down but really not by that much, and I lost about 40 pounds over like 6 months.
>>35207819
>>35207861
samefag
I told my gf to lose weight and she agreed she will try.
What do I tell her to do?
She drinks beer a lot
Replace that with diet drinks or water
What else?
>>35203208
>tried, doesn't work on my phone
Just use the website on pc or grab Bluestacks if you want the app.
>>35207886
Unless the human body has a store of antimatter that it uses to directly convert carbs to energy the laws of physics have nothing to do with how the human body functions.
>>35207900
What was your before and after like in terms of visible muscle?
What were your lifts like before and after?
I am this guy >>35207636
I am not extremely serious but I do not want my bench to go from say... 2 plate for 10 rep to 1.5 plate for 10 reps or something ridiculous.
I especially don't want my OHP to crash and burn.
>>35207906
cardio
>>35198866
This. And so help me God when the price of chicken goes up. I bitch about it non-stop for days.
>>35207906
Just fucking starve herself and do cardio if I was a woman.
I went from 110kg to 65kg in about 4 months by eating 800 calories a day and running for 1 hour none stop at night.
I had no visible muscle mass, but fuck I was fitting into size 28 jeans rather then my old size 40's
>>35207926
>>35207797
>>35207985
I'm afraid of telling her to count calories
I don't want to scare her off
>>35207926
Supreme bait m'friend. A tippity tip of my hat to you.
>2016 -21 days
>not having an infinite energy source to expend so that your body can store everything you eat instead of using it to maintain bodily functions.
>>35208013
but a tomato is a fruit
>>35198806
>yet you don't hear us bitching and moaning about it.
That's all your memes are for.
>>35207549
Nice argument, you really showed him!
>>35208013
The civil war was not about slavery libkek
>>35198806
problem is not losing the weight per se
it's the habit changing stuff that comes with it
we should really start treating fat people like addicts
>>35207926
> what is glycolysis and aerobic respiration
>>35208434
Chemical processes that have nothing to do with physics.
>>35208014
well then she's never gonna make it because she'll have no idea how many calories is in the food she is eating. It's like driving with your eyes closed, I mean sure, you MIGHT make it but you have no idea where you are.
what did she mean by this?
>>35207368
>that fat shit in the back near the fireplace
>generates enough body heat to not even need a fireplace
>>35198806
I think losing fat is much more difficult because you have to beat the eating instinct.
I started a diet in the middle of september and have lost 6kg since then. I used ephedrine last week but dropped out because of sides.
It is really hard to control myself on the carbs and I have to be very disciplined about cardio and working out
Btw, I am no fatty nor was I when I started the diet
>>35199221
I think you must have an underlying psychological proclivity towards addiction.
I've been able to quit hard drugs cold turkey after regular use, no problem.
Cutting out food/drugs when you're mentally well and have a support network isn't very difficult.
>>35208447
>>35198806
Good for you! It's awesome to give yourself these affirmations. It really boosts your self-esteem and I'm glad /fit/ is exercising that muscle too ;)
>>35207706
Not possible. Something in your calculations is wrong.
fags
>>35202847
>To eat more, you just have to give your body exactly what it wants.
And be able to not throw up when your body is telling you to stop
And have the financial security to purchase more food
>>35208179 I mean states rights is technically correct, but it was the States rights to allow slavery ya fag
>>35198806
>you don't hear us bitching and moaning about it
u sure about that
>>35200188
>"most people that walked this planet at one point or another never ate sugar in their lives"
/fit/ everybody. This is who you consult with for fitness and nutrition advice.
>>35210245
Underrated
>>35207368
>All that shit-tier food
Why is it always the same? Why do they always get fat by eating mediocre food that the rest of humanity only eats if they are in a hurry?
>>35200188
>You realize most people that walked this planet at one point or another never heard or ate sugar in their lives
>>35210245
This
>>35198806
This so much. I must eat so much like fucking retard to don't lose single kg.
>>35200235
>he thinks naturally occurring sugar is the same as the stuff you buy at the supermarket
Anon please just go back to >>>/b/
>>35202847
But these people are eating enough for multiple people every day. Literally every one else whose at a normal weight manages to eat just enough to maintain a healthy weight. Sure evolution made us want to eat as much as we can but its not hard to eat one persons worth of food in a day and then stop. Eating so much every single day that to you get to the point of morbid obesity is literally retarded and its no easier to just eat more than it is to just eat a normal a normal amount
tfw no self control so I can only gorge or starve.
>>35207926
Are you implying the laws of the fucking everything in the universe does not apply to your body?
Nice bait
>>35207636
Anon I lost 7kgs got visible abs and all my lifts went down, it will happen I guarantee (unless you juice).
The only thing I can recommend if you chose to cut for abs is to implement an effective ab routine to excentuate abs possibly negating additional weight loss (fat and muscle)
>Having a caloric deficit, feeling shit and draining what's left of your fatty fat energy levels
>Look like shit anyway, so struggle with a constant reminder of your fatness and motivation
>Can't really gain muscle on a cut, so don't often see the point of it all
>You're still fucking fat
>Joint pain from fat weight and cardio n shit
>Many other fat prollems, but niggas still do it and they rarely fucking complain, and the ones who do, don't make it
or
>Oh no, I have to eat food, only if there were some foods that tasted good and were full of calories
>Skinny fats or skinnykunts just loo at the baseline level of average anyway so judgement doesnt really come into it by normie standards
>All you have to do is literally eat and lift, you're complaining about something easy as fuck you pansies
>20 pounds of solid muscle
>Are you fucking stupid? 20 pounds of building muscle and losing fat is not even comparable you DYEL
in the fucking end you faggots, don't think you have it worse, because then you're a fucking sadkunt and wont make it
do you have a victim complex cause you're skinny or cause you're fat?
Grow some balls and do whatever you need to
You bunch of fucking women
Fatties have the whole cycle of weightlifting and looking good harder, and thats fucking objective
>>35213526
You can lose 20 lbs in literally 5-10 weeks. It will take you about 10 months to put on 20 lbs of lbm assuming ideal conditions.
Easy is subjective but overall there is a lot less effort to be put into losing weight than gaining lbm.
>>35213542
Yeah thats what I mean, given the time and the amount, it's not comparable
you could say shit like 20lbs of fat and 5lbs of muscle, but that high amount of muscle is placed weirdly next to a number that OP pulled out of his ass
>>35213542
>easy is subjective but losing weight is a lot easier than gaining lbm
True. But the thing most people seem to forget in these debates is that fatties not only have massive stores of fat to lose, they also then have to start the bulk/cut cycle just like everyone else.
Skellies get to start at Step 1, while fatties and planets could be stuck at Step .5 for years.
