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Who else is shooting for pure mass and strength over being shredded? I personally hate the look of abs, although I do have a lot of respect for people who stay sub <12%bf.

I think the way to pull this off is just to get strong as fuck. You have to really really push yourself in the gym. Never let yourself give up - if you're sure you're going to fail a set, you better actually try and fail rather than rerack it.

Any bearmode brothers want to share any tips?
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The absolute GOAT mass-building protein source is semen, so you're gonna want to guzzle as much of that as possible.
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>>35189966
>i have no discipline when it comes to eating
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Eat a lot but don't be stupid about...by that I mean eat a lot of generally healthy foods for example:
>chicken
>lean red meats
>fish
>rice (idk where everyone stands on white vs brown I just get white cause it's cheaper)
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Undisciplined fat fuck general?

Anyone can overeat and get to 30% bodyfat and push weights lmao. That's the average American. I'd beg that less than 0.001% of Americans are under 10%
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>>35189966
>Who else is shooting for pure mass and strength over being shredded?

Hardly anyone is shooting for "being shredded". Most of us, though, aren't shooting for being fat fucks, if that's what you're asking.
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>>35190044
>>35190003

>I'm a skinny faggot

ftfy. mfw when i slap ur girls ass in the club and u btfo aye lmao
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>>35189966
Deadlifts, squats, rows and just fucking eat man. You'll get strong and big as fuck
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>>35189980
>>35190027
>>35190044
Not wanting to be lean != not able to be lean
Pic related is me, 115lbs of weakness at 5'9. I dropped 50+lbs through eating 600 calories a day. It's not hard to not eat.
I love the feeling of getting stronger and I don't like the lean look, thats all
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>>35190136
Forgot to add pic, bearmode is my goal aswell. I have had decent progress the last year or so.
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>>35190139

Protip: you look like shit

And this is where it gets difficult, eating less but maintaining muscle you fuccboi twink
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>i care about strength, not aesthetics
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>>35190340
Show us your aesthetics fucboi
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>>35190329
No shit I look like shit, I'm severly underweight. Just proving the 'undiscliplined fat fuck' thing wrong
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>>35190139
>I dropped 50+lbs through eating 600 calories a day.

If you don't want to be lean, then why the fuck did you drop so much weight?
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>>35190433
I was a fat fuck, started cutting cutting and quickly became addicted to restricting calories. I've been this weight for half a year now.

By not wanting to be lean I mean ~19%bf with a lot of muscle
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Trying to, feel like a fat piece of shit though

2 years between pics
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>>35190472
Do more chest
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>>35190486
Yeah just started isolating it, usually just do compounds
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http://www.elitefts.com/education/i-wanna-get-fat/
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>>35189966
Sounds like you just started lifting. You can be shredded and strong. Plus, naturally, the more fat you gain, the less return you get for your fat. Just by changing my routine, I was able to add over 30 lbs to take my bench from 225x5 to 255x5, deadlift from 365x5-410x5 and I don't squat. all while cutting from 200lbs to 185 lbs natty over a 3 month cut. If you want to find a reason to be fat and shit, fine. But don't think that it gives you an edge in the strength department.
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>>35190679

Why the fuck would you not squat?

>Inb4 i walk a lot so my legs are big
>inb4 my legs are naturally big
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>>35190472
work your arms. not even trying to be a dick but your arms are literally the size of a skelly starting to workout.
doing decently heavy rows/chins should have given you more progress on your arms

and most importantly eat more
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>>35190681
Spine injury. Plus I get better leg development from leg pressing anyways.
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>>35190689
You can deadlift but not squat? kek
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>>35190701
this

wtf this nigga retarded?
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>>35190472
Don't listen to >>35190687
What you need to do is make sure ur lean as fuck, man. Everything falls into your favor when you're lean. Get like, 10 percent bodyfat atleast then bulk for 2 years.
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>>35190713
his arms are the size of my forearms. and i dont even have big forearms
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>>35190701
>>35190709
Yeah, it's called knowing your body. I might eventually start squatting again, but until I'm sure everything's healed, I'm not gunna bother. Hell, I might never bother with it again though.
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Op please try and hit my gf's ass at the gym

>2015
>Not even male model
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>>35190734
>spinal injury
>does deadlift but not squats
is dis nigga the retarded?
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>>35190729
doesn't matter. Not like bulking for a few months is gonna do shit in that department. Think about it, for every month he cuts, he can bulk for an extra 3-4 months assuming he's not stuffing his face like a retard. If he bulks no, he'll end up yo yo dieting because he'll look like shit.
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>>35190752
>what is active recovery

Are you new, or just stupid?
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>>35190760
>recovering from spinal injury
>still does deadlift
is dis niggas retarding?
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>>35190786
He is dude, if he deadlifts 4pl8 for reps without issues i cant believe he cant rep 225 for 5 or some shit just to keep his technique and mobility, so what im taking from this is that he is just a fucking pussy.
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>>35190681
I live in a city at the slope of a mountain, so a really hilly landscape, and I walk about an hour a day (from and to work) at a high tempo, I find it a better work-out than doing shit like squats to be honest.
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>>35190806
Id like to see your uphill walking legs squat more than 225

Pathetic.
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>>35190689
>spinr injury
>leg pressing
Guess how I know you're a pussy curlbro
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>>35189966
I see what you're saying man - but unless you're going for strength above all, you *will* be considered a StrongFat.

Nothing wrong with that if that's what you want tho!

Here's some food for though; the guy who's photo you posted is called Railz, he was on bb.com a lot way back in the day. You posted his "before cutting" photo, here's a pic of him after.

The lighting in the pic you posted is great, he's pumped, it's a flattering photo. Just be aware.

>>35190629
Our buddy looks just like the pic on the right. He loves his beer belly. Says it makes him feel like a silverback gorilla, or "a king of old".
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>>35190793
I could still out squat you losers any day.

>>35190793
What the fuck is up with you losers and squating? I know it's a meme lift and all, but it's not that serious. I don't play football or compete in powerlifting so there's no reason for me to do it, especially if it aggravates my back to the extent that it currently does.
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>>35190896
You cant squat for shit faggot. Get out.
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>>35190687
Okay, thanks for the advice.
I am trying to eat more, i just dont want to put too much fat on.
My strength is decent (just under 1/2/3/4), so im hoping once I do isolation for a while I'll blow up.
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>>35190905
>Under 6 month beginner lifts
>Decent strength
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>>35190916
I'l agree it isn't powerlifting tier, but its pretty good for a normal person.
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>>35190920
>comparing yourself to people who dont lift
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>>35190937
Yeah, true I guess.
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>>35190942
But do not worry breh, keep at it and you're gonna make it eventually.
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>>35190955
Thanks brother
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>>35190829

UNDERRATED
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>>35190905
do you do much rowing/upper back besides deadlifts?
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>>35190968
I generally do dead lifts, Bent over Rows, and barbell shrugs.

Sometimes facepulls if i've done alot of pushing exercises
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>>35190916
>>35190920
>>35190937

>Not realising that your progress level is significantly related to your weight AND what you lift

If you lift 1/2/3/4 at 200lb bw then that's absolute shite, but if you do it at 150lb then you are actually kind of strong.
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starting to feel a bit fat though.
a part of me wants to go to like 120kg and the other doesn't want to die of a heart attack.

cut y/n?
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>>35190135
>hfw ge actually has a girl and you dont
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>>35191004
>wanting to be 150 in the first place
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>>35190027
you are actually retarded
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>>35191015

Never implied that, but wholeheartedly agree.

>tfw 155lb with 105kg bench, 157.5kg squat, 180kg diddly
>tfw finally gonna hit dat year long bulk
>tfw strength is gonna go through the fuckin' roof
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>>35190865
>Our buddy looks just like the pic on the right. He loves his beer belly.
That guy in the picture doesn't have a beer belly.
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>>35191006
You look three times as big in a shirt
I wouldn't cut yet
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>>35191035
that wasn't taken at the same time f a m.
right is 60 something kg and left is 103kg this morning.
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>>35191043
Mirin fampai, you made it.

Lifts btw?
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>>35191051
210/145/215

my deadlifts sucks because lol hip problems.
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>>35191043
Fuck, If I were you I'd stay where I was, that's my goal body. Diet/routine?
You'd look shredded af if you cut though. There's a reason you're wearing a shirt, right?
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>>35191074
yeah, i don't really have any abs.

1 heavy bench, shoulders, tricep, bicep
2 deadlift and deadlift accessories
3 heavy squat, light bench, abs
4 off
5 bench volume, deadlift variation
6 light squat, overhead stuff
7 off

i eat about 3800 - 4000 cal/d because i have a shitty manual labor job. i do eat relatively clean though.
i'm doing a 6 week bench program and a 8 week squat program alongside eachother.
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>>35191064
That's for KG right?
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>>35189966
>not wanting to be leeman mode
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>>35191210
yeah. squat, bench, deadlift. also paused, atg and beltless. i really wish i was better at deadlifting though.
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>>35191226
complete goal body. can't do that shit natty though.
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>>35190139
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>>35191228
Pretty impressive man, do you think you'll ever cut and bulk back up to see if you can get even stronger.

I mean you're obviously more experienced than me but Andy Bolton's book (forgot name), Explode your deadlift,Juggernaut Manual for deadlift and this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toG0XunIlQI really helped my deadlift I was stuck on 130 kg x1 for almost a month after pretty much reading these books and picking up some tips now can do 182.5 x 2 for three sets (Obviously after 3 months but still increasing by 2.5 kgs)
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>>35191030
>tfw 155lb and can only bench 80kg :'(
I need to stop fucking about and start lifting
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>>35189966
>tfw you will never rest for 12 hrs a day and eat 10,000 calories
>tfw you will never OHP almost 4pl8 like it's nothing.
Why do I have a job lads...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs8svOg9c9o
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>>35191284
i don't really think programming is the reason my deadlift is bad. i just can't really push myself because as soon as i do my left hip gets agitated and it hurts like hell. apparently that's because my left leg is about 1.5cm longer than the right leg and that puts my hip joint at a compromized angle while deadlifting. i'm stretching and doing prehab stuff religiously but progress remains slow.
i'm trying to wait it out atm.
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>>35189966
>Who else is shooting for pure mass and strength over being shredded? I personally hate the look of abs, although I do have a lot of respect for people who stay sub <12%bf.
Fair enough, though some people use this as an excuse to "dirt bulk" and pull horrid numbers for their weight.
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>>35190146
You're just a fat fag
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>>35191327
no shit
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>>35191284
oh, also i'm pretty sure i'll cut at some point pretty soon. i'll approach it carefully though because i don't really know how my body reacts to a sustained deficit since i've been on a permabulk for 2 years. i want to compete at 105kg at some point so i should make sure i'm the leanest 105kg i can be.
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>>35191236
He only turned in his natty card when he started cutting
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>>35191315
That sucks man so does that include all pulls then? i.e Pendlay rows, power cleans, oly lifts?

>>35191354
Just for reference sake what height are you? I'm 170 cm and 74 kgs I sometimes would like to see if I can reach 100 kgs just for the sake of being 100 kgs.
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>>35191226
but his face looks like a potato
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>>35191376
i'm 185cm. there are online calculators though where you can (approximately) check how much mass you can hold based on the size of your wrists and ankles. maybe give those a try.

and yeah, i have trouble doing oly lifts too. pendlay rows and rows in general are luckily fine though.
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>>35191376
>100kgs at 170cm
I really would advice against this if natty
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>>35189966
this thread should be called
/lettinggo/ general
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>>35189966
>if you're sure you're going to fail a set, you better actually try and fail rather than rerack it
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>Thinking you can just pile on as much mass as you want without roids
>Thinking that bulking actually works without roids

Ah, the good ol fat delusions. Keep adding that fat man, I'll stay lean and add the same amount of muscle.
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>>35190629
im the guy in the left pic here, posted it yesterday in winter bulk thread

how long will it take to get that bear mode natty?
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>>35191721
You're well on the way. Bearmodes really need huge slabs for pecs though, work on your bench
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I did a PPL split for 6 months because I wanted to impress a girl. Got some gains but she turned me down.

Now I do SS and just want to get as strong as possible. Lifting for yourself and not to impress others is liberating.
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>>35189966
being sub <12%bf is considered unhealthily low in medical terms.

>>35190044
being under 10% (if you really are and not estimating) is considered unhealthily low in medical terms.
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>>35189966
what's the most optimal routine to achieve beefcake mode? fuck being lean
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>>35191315
why not have your lifting shoes altered by 1.5cm on the side you need it?
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>>35190139
how?
tell me your secrets
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>>35192557
I ended up becoming addicted to the feeling of skipping meals and seeing how long I could not eat for
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>>35192384
Any strength routine, but make sure you've got some chin/pullups and chest isolation
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>>35192620
so something like phul?
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>>35192793
That would work, just make sure your numbers are going up
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>>35192616
that seems really unhealthy :/
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>>35189966
This was always my goal. Day 1 my girlfriend told me she isn't into abs and gives zero fucks about my weight. So I figured I'd go fill on bear mode and do strongman. That being said she's the one who suggest I drop a weight class So I can start placing higher more often, so she understands the sport and doesn't care if I don't have abs so it's win win.

It's not that I don't have discipline, hell I've dropped a ton of weight since I first started this endeavor. I just don't want to. It's incredibly hard for me to drop weight, even on DNP doing car pull sessions would have me weezing but after a month I gained 2lbs. So i figured fuck it lol.

If anyone wants 1 diet tip for gaining weight I recommend 1lb of chop meat a day. Walmart sells 5lb logs. Mix 1lb with cheesy taco seasoning powder packet. and drain most of the fat out. Mix with milk and not water. It's fucking amazing and has bomb ass macros
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>>35192512
Already did that. The Problem is though, that the length difference is in my femurs so it's kind of a half measure.
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I kind of have to train for strength since I'm in the army and the bench press, DL and pull-ups are used to test strength.
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>>35190737
>ugly AF
>asymmetric shit abs
>gay ass earring
>tiny delts
>smaller bis

Look like a dike on hormones bro kekekekek
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