Putting end to No Fap and No Porn Meme
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/women-who-stray/201307/your-brain-porn-its-not-addictive
Fap away , Porn is for HIGH TEST males
>>35134657
>looking for any evidence you can to support your addictive behavior
>h..h-haha.. its OK guys! w-we can all fap, its.. its perfectly normal to stimulate our genitals in front of the glowing screen!
good luck making it
> study posted is not a published paper or from some study, but some shitty blog
> being this autistic
Porn industry and gov can publish any study they want. They can even publish that lifting causes dick growth on chin and you would believe it.
Some people are retarded, easily manipulated.
I don't want to fap anymore
>>35134657
>psychologytoday
nice source of information, friend
>>35134657
Holy fuck what a retarded blogpost.
>science
Kek
The only ones that fight noporn are either people who hasn't tried it, or people with super-libidos that can cum all day and still fuck their gfs.
>>35134657
Psychology Today. Stopped reading there.
>>35134820
Chindicklet detected
>>35134847
>The only ones that fight noporn
Government has benefits from keeping the men weak and satisfied.
>>35134856
Your insults won't do much to me.
Just so you know.
Whenever you look at porn, you look at an alfa fucking the girls you would want to fuck. Ever seen a kuk porn? Where the guy gets his gf fucked by another man then he sits down and jerk offs to it?
You're the same, your words have no meaning.
>>35134859
You're an idiot, the only people who support noporn and nofap are extreme Christians and sex-negative feminists. Every time you look at porn you're fighting the neo-Puritans.
>>35134877
>ad hominem
You're extremely deluded, probably a teenager as well. Grow up and rethink your stupid behaviour and unability to think straight.
>>35134871
>the kek meme
I did this for 3 weeks, all it did was kill my libido temporarily.
I don't trust it desu. besides, fapping is good for your prostate.
>>35134906
Not a meme.
Recently I read a thought-provoking text by my bro redpillmtl. He wrote something that should open the eyes of any fapper thinking that his "habit" is all "natural" and "healthy":
"I was watching a documentary on monkeys the other day when I had an epiphany. The beta monkeys of the group stood watching while the alpha monkey was fucking one of the many females in his harem. They stood watching and masturbating while their better was fucking the object of their desire right in front of their eyes, and NOTHING they could do about it.
Then I had a lightbulb moment. Isn’t that the exact same thing that happens when you beat it to porn? You are watching some guy fuck an object of your desire, while you sit there helplessly and stroking away to his thrusts in the object of your desire. Primitively, I believe that is a signal to your brain hinting at your position in society. It is the tell of the beta.
And that is why stroking it to porn is primitively beta. I believe it is hardwired in the brain to recognize beta behavior and adapt accordingly. Both for the one exhibiting the behavior and for those seeing the behavior being exhibited.
I am sure you have all seen a video where some guy is banging a girl and some other guy is watching and masturbating. What did you feel for that guy? Pity? Contempt? That guy is you when you are watching porn."
So guys, it's you choice: do you want to be the watching and masturbating Beta monkey or the successful Alpha monkey?
>>35134897
>Ad hominem
Because there's literally no other fucking response. Nofap and noporn have so little evidence it's not even worth discussing, and yet you autists start these threads every single day. All it is is broscience and delusion, the only people who take this shit seriously are Christians and feminists, and it's completely hilarious how they've brainwashed you into their little anti-masturbation cult. Grow the fuck up and fap, no one cares what you do to your penis.
>>35134926
>and it's completely hilarious how they've brainwashed you into their little anti-masturbation cult. Grow the fuck up and fap, no one cares what you do to your penis.
You're speaking about brainwashing but you're the one brainwashed here. Trusting your gov, "scientists". Stay bluepilled and a slave. :^)
>>35134774
>christian propagandists have "evidence" on their side
>>35134926
>no one cares what you do to your penis
>cares what he doesn't do to his penis
>>35134877
Internet Fap Defnese Force pls go. Who even writes your checks??
>>35134807
this is the study
http://www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index.php/snp/article/view/20770>>35134825
>>35134926
>>35134940
>christianity is bad
Go put a banana up your ass and leave this site.
>>35134945
Gb2 Iceland feminist kek
>>35134921
Then what if I fap to girls soloing?
What am I?
>>35134657
>Jew science saying porn isn't addictive
Shocking revelation
>>35134960
>Anti-feminist
>atheist
>not-puritan in any way
Yeah, sorry I don't fit your narrative, you retarded strawman cunt. I'll ask again:
Who writes your checks?
>>35134920
massaging your prostate is good for it, it doesn't have to be massaged by masturbating.
>>35134980
The "narrative" is irrelevant, the only people who shill for nofap are Christians and feminists. If you're not either, then you're just a c(u)ck. You're depriving yourself for an internet meme, in which case you should probably just kill yourself.
>>35134921
If you aren't alpha on the inside you won't become one by imitating alpha behaviour.
>>35134963
A healthy male. Just don't overdo the fapping, you won't get hard at real girls anymore.
>>35135006
That wasn't the point of that post.
If you look at other men fucking women you want, you're a loser and genetical waste.
>>35134877
The goverment (the jews behind it desu) want to keep you addicted into your shitty porn/masturbation, TV, junk food and social media.
Everyday you are on nofap you are giving the goverment the middle finger.
>>35134921
>Broscience: the post
Also
>redpillmtl
Seriously?
>>35134657
this is retarded. I've been doing no-porn for about a month now and my energy, motivation, and anxiety levels have changed dramatically
>>35135015
Don't forget your fluoride toothpaste goy. Rat poison is totally good for your teeth. )))
>>35134963
hypnotized by pussy
>>35135000
Checked
So you're just looking for any way to insult me because I don't agree with you?
Wow what a compelling argument.
I liked the part where you led with "my retarded fucking narrative doesn't matter" and then repeated your retarded fucking narrative.
I do not fit the story you are trying to make up. It only takes one counter example to disprove a theory. Your theory has been DISPROVEN. You are OBJECTIVELY incorrect. Goodbye, little fap boy :)
>>35135022
Just admit you like to watch other men do the job you're supposed to.
Nothing wrong with being a little beta submissive bitch.
>>35134947
it's not a substitute for science.
>>35135035
>implying its 'either/or'
>>35135000
>nofap is an Internet meme
(Despite having been in almost every culture for all time)
>porn is not an Internet meme
(Despite becoming a 3 times a day pleasure for anybody with a computer)
>>35135035
Science today is a fucking worthless trash.
Here, let me give you an example. So as we all know we already have the picture of our earth right? THE REAL PICTURE FROM SPACE.
pic related how it "looks" like.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E9G8fbnZ24
But here you have one of the head scientists saying that it's actually pear-shaped.
You fucking guilible fucks, you will believe anything "science" tells you. Science ended in 18th century. Accept it.
>>35135024
Exactly. Thats why I brush my teeth only once per week, and only with baking soda. I floss daily instead.
(Not even joking)
Thanks OP!, I'm gonna fap 30 times today!
>>35135059
The problem is that people are taught "science" without actually understanding anything. They give little experiments and don't actually make people do shit all the way through school. Then they grow up, still know fuck-all about the scientific method, or really methodology in fucking general and remain the same ignorant children who worship the experiments of their "teachers"
It's real fuckin dumb
Now we have all these fedora toppers who hate Christianity (not that igaf, I'm athiest for what it's worth) but worship "science" (sensationalist media) like a diety.
>>35135047
>implying it doesn't make objective claims about the nature of reality that run in opposition to established scientific fact
do you even sam harris?
it's literally as compatible as norse mythology
>not realizing how wonderful porn is
>not realizing how fucking desperate you would be if it not were for porn
>not realizing that porn makes you more alpha in the long run
nofap and noporn just makes alpha in the short term, fap and porn makes you alpha at the long term
you choose
>>35135088
>hurr atheism is just confirmation bias
whatever you say, kek
even christians who are scientists know to side with the data
..just ask ken miller, lol
>>35135068
no mouthwash?
gross breath, tbhfam
>>35135104
>being a fat neckband with low test is long term alpha
Yeah, even if you move the goalpost from "nofap doesn't work" to "nofap only works in the short term" you're still fucking retarded, and honestly likely a troll or paid shill because you don't understand chan culture. Even if you WERE correct (which you are not) people would still chose short term alpha here. Because they are weak and have no willpower.
Hahaha what are you even saying?
>it's long term alpha to five in to short term pleasure like fapping.
Puh-lease, gov psy ops
>>35135088
this
what ppl think is "science" and real science are two different things
just download a random article from pubmed or ieeexplore or similar
if your source doesnt LOOK like this (i am not even speaking about content now) or has no reference to something that looks like this, then disregard this shit
>>35135118
You can buy mouthwash, just look at the ingredients there.
>>35135111
What the fuck are you even talking about? My post was about dogmatism in the world of "science," not about declaring atheist to be simply confirmation bias (despite declaring myself an athiest in-post)
Tl;dr: wut
>>35135104
porn makes you desperate
not a lack of porn
>>35135131
Science is just a new religion. The sooner people accept that the better.
Religion:
>you don't believe?! enjoy ur hell fagit
Science:
>you don't believe? enjoy being a retard fagit
>>35135137
That was what I was saying here>>35135088
You're typing this out like we disagree and are not making the same point...
>>35135137
>Science is just a new religion
what is its theology?
what are its tenets?
what dogmas must you believe?
i consider myself an epistemological solipsist, but recognize the pragmatic value of accepting sensory information at face value, which in my opinion is all that is needed to err on the side of science as the best possible methodology for humans to cultivate knowledge
>>35135012
I don't think humans have the same social organisation as monkeys though - for example I've heard a theory that we went through a stage of having orgies - which involves watching others have sex without that being a sign of lower status. Humans are more co-operative than monkeys or baboons that's one reason why we're more successful than them in all likelihood.
>>35135159
what if religion was the result of the evolution of a new sixth sense that we currently call "spiritual"
>>35134657
Anyone supporting nofap is just a small balls roider. No wonder this board is full of deluded lifters that can't get an erection
>>35135033
>supposed to
this is superstition
>>35135174
>implying such a sense exists
>implying your inane prattle makes sense
go away new age faggot.
i have smoked my bodyweight in DMT, and i still can't buy your crazy bullshit
>>35135047
the christians who started this movement are basing the movement on morality while claiming that it's scientific.
Porn is for betas faggot. You're jerking off to the idea of someone getting fucked. That's what beta chimpanzees and gorillas do when the alpha fucks the females.
>>35135059
>one scientist says something silly
the way I see it the scientific method is a way of removing pre-existing bias when you look at information. I'm not suggesting we should all trust blindly in authority.
>>35135210
You said it yourself. Why argue with the beta fappers? Let's go to another thread, breh.
>>35134963
Yup this is what I do. Haven't fapped to porn in years now. Just a girl solo masturbating. Gets me hard as fuck. She doesn't even have to be super hot. I just watch amateur girls touching themselves. 3 times a week. No more. No less.
>>35135220
There is no place to discuss ANYTHING on the matter of how earth looks like.
THEY ALREADY SHOWED US PICTURE FROM SPACE. - :^)
What is left here to debate? Nothing you fucking retard. >>35135059
>>35135059
>pear shape
he was explaining oblate spheroids to retards...
and you were TOO retarded to get it
>just dont look at porn
and if you arent genetically gifted to get 10/10 women, what do you do?
people act as if nofap magically makes you a greek god wanted by all women, it's nonsense.
>>35135088
>>35135131
>>35135137
>>35135147
Nietzche was saying this over a hundred years ago. He was right, although I think he's a fgt about most everything else he said
>>35135246
Fap with imagination?
Jesus christ i feel old.
>>35135255
just saying, people think that nofap will suddenly make them attractive to other women
face it: if girls arent into you now they wont be ever. you can better yourself in the gym and change that perhaps, but nofap is not the solution to ANYTHING. it doesnt make you a better person or more attractive. the gym can do that though.
>>35135279
>it doesnt make you a better person
It does. You have to find something else to fill the void of not jerking.
>>35134897
He owned you and you literally have no response except uhh you're a teenager!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ao8L-0nSYzg
Watch it.
>>35135282
but if girls didnt want to fuck you before, they still wont
the only thing that can change that is getting in better shape.
I'm watching porn for hours without even fapping and my dick works on it's own somewhat stimulating the movement in porn it's like edging just less intense and longer. feels great
>>35135246
well some of these guys want to be "alpha" so they think if they stop it it will set them on the road to having sex with a woman which I suppose to them is alpha enough.
>>35135312
>but if girls didnt want to fuck you before, they still wont
If porn makes you introvert and self-absorbed. Of course no girl will want to have anything to do with you.
Besides, they can smell the weakness.
>>35135120
Who said anything about being fat or having a neckbeard or low test? Are you this new?
>>35135322
it isnt about that at all
if a girl wants to fuck you it will be obvious, confidence is meaningless if you are ugly.
>>35134871
>Your insults won't do much to me.
>Just so you know.
>Whenever you look at porn, you look at an alfa fucking the girls you would want to fuck. Ever seen a kuk porn? Where the guy gets his gf fucked by another man then he sits down and jerk offs to it?
>You're the same, your words have no meaning.
Let me just put some things into perspective for you faggots.
>You are telling me, you SHOULD watch porn?
>Yes? Because? It's not bad for you?
Regardless of what you think, here is what happens.
>You watch porn
>You are stimulated
>You watch more
>You don't care about fucking girls, porn is easy and those E-girls are 10x more attractive than the average woman's physique
>Next thing you know you're fapping to anal gaping porn, trannies, hentai, who knows what
>Simply because you're still chasing that initial dopamine rush porn gave you when you first saw it
Quit watching porn.
Learn how to talk to women.
Learn how to actually develop relationships.
Hell, learn how to make money and fuck strippers or some shit.
>At least you're not sitting in a room by yourself fapping to the IDEA of fucking a girl.
>>35135322
>they can smell the weakness
I never have had trouble attracting women and I masturbate a lot. As someone else mentioned, maybe it's your shame about it which is the real weakness.
I recommend anyone to at least TRY the Mark Manson approach
>Quit porn
>Fap once a week, at a set time (like every monday 8PM)
>When you fap, use your imagination and think of a girl you want to bang
It did wonders for my mentality
Even if it doesn't change your life, at least give it a try for 2-3 months before disnissing it conpletely
>>35135120
Congratulations fellow NoFapper. Have an upfap! I get tired of these undisciplined faplets you were talking about that watch hardcore porn when they're jerking off. It's just kind of sad. NoFap day 124 reporting in. I meditate before sleeping daily and I don't think about sex during the day so my dreams are basically sexless. According to taoist teachings I have reached an advanced level as almost all practitioners lose their seed through nocturnal emissions in the first 100 days. The funny thing about all this is that the teachings say you that you will become highly attractive to women while retaining which I am definitely experiencing, I am getting eye fucked 24/7 and women are making moves on me constantly. The irony of it all.
>>35135340
but why do any of that unless you actually want or are motivated to?
>>35134657
ASHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
KEEP MASTURBATING WITH TRANNY PORN ALL YOU WANT LITTLE MANCHILD MORE REAL WOMEN FOR ME
>>35134657
Real scientist here.
Didn't read the entire blog post, which btw just paraphrases the one article it refers to.
Assuming that the facts are correct (I'm fairly certain they are), their logic is faulty you gigantic piece of shit.
But I know YOU didn't read it, you read the headline, maybe the first paragraph and rushed on /fit/, so let me sum it up for you.
They measured the addicts brain response to porn, noticed that there was no diminishing return in the response, also noticed the absence of pattern that you find in cocaine addict's brains.
Their conclusion is in 2 parts :
>Because there is no diminishing return in the response to porn stimuli, there is no desensitization due to porn
But this if fucking wrong you double nigger. We don't give a fuck about response to porn, we care about how aroused you can be by real girls doing normal stuff, and by your own imagination, not by looking constantly at the same 50 images/videos that you like.
>Because there was no pattern in their brains that looked like the one in cocaine users', then porn doesn't have the same effect as a real drug
And to justify this argument, they say that porn is compared to cocaine by people who say it's a drug. I can't begin to understand how stupid you have to be not to realize how fallatious this argument is. Your brain doesn't show the same patterns if you use different drugs you fucking half-manlet.
I bet they wouldn't find cocaine pattern in girls addicted to depreciation/abusive relationships, and it's a real thing 9check it up you faggots).
TL;DR OP is as expected a huge faggot
>>35134657
>>35135375
Why lift?
Why leave the house?
Why even live?
We're not here to force you to become motivated, but if you're unhappy with your current situation something is obviously wrong
>>35135392
in the rest of the article they also talked about the measure of response being correlated to high-libido and not to measures of sexual addiction.
>>35135404
>People with high libido are more likely to be porn users
Groundbreaking.
Also, let me question your critical thinking : this was a within subject study, meaning that their only source to measure the libido was the answers to the questionnaires they handed out.
Saying that they measured libido and found a correlation to porn use is exactly saying that they found a correlation between people who considered they had a high libido and people who use porn. But when you ask a guy if he has a large libido, he will automatically think about how often he faps, and the more he faps the higher his perceived libido.
So this study shows that people who fap a lot have higher chance to use porn. Wow.
Also, fapping because you decided to fap does not mean that you have sexual desire. At all. You fap by habit. And that's actually what porn conditions you to do.
Their measuring device for libido is faulty at core.
just masturbate every 7 days for that test boost. abstaining any longer than that makes no difference.
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12659241
and be sure to rub one out, it could stop you from getting prostate cancer
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC387502/
>ITT: Porn addicts getting BTFO
>>35135397
>Why lift?
Health reasons really. I suppose sex would make me healthier too.
Now that I analyse it I think it's that I have a huge ego so I'll only have sex if it's effortless to obtain.
so I don't deserve any sympathy, it's entirely up to me.
>>35135468
Actually you are drawing conclusions article itself adressed that sceptics like you will cling on.
Such scientist , can't even into comprehension,
>>35135331
This is a self defeating attitude that communicates to me that you have given up entirely - you've never seen an ugly guy with a hot girl before? If a guy has high social value and confidence (and/or is successful) they can attract hot girls regardless of what they look like (provided that they dress well and have great hygiene/haircut).
All you're doing is saying you want to keep fapping and if thats the case, do it faggot.
Enjoy never making it.
Brehs
Im about to complete 3 months no fap.
I have watched porn in that time though. I go on /b/ and always browse the porn webm threads although i have trained myself to not even touch my cock. Will this have made my 3 months no fap pointless by still viewing porn?
Where should i go from here? Start fapping again without porn?
>>35135534
girls are shallow, if not moreso than guys are
if you arent rich you need to look good, it's that simple
>101 / 7 / 38 / 1
>that guy who keeps samefagging to feel superior that he doesn't masturbate
>>35135468
Ok, I should have questioned how they measured the high libido that was a serious lapse on my part.
You haven't understood the study, though. Everyone in the study self-reported as having problems regulating their usage. They were then measured by questionnaire for libido strength and addiction signs.
That's where I'm unable to understand it anymore, though. The article says "the EEG findings of increased response to erotic stimuli were consistent with the responses of people that have higher levels of sexual desire." and then says "when a participant reported higher levels of libido, they also demonstrated lesser neural responses to the sexual stimuli they were shown."
which seems to say the exact opposite.
>>35135471
>prostate cancer
massaging the prostate doesn't have to be done via the penis you can do it through the perineal wall.
>>35135543
Have sex with a human being.
>>35135330
>people who fap are high test lean alphas
Yeah okay, retard.
>>35135585
from the study itself it seems to say that the larger amplitude differences in response to pleasant sexual stimuli relative to neutral stimuli is negatively related to measures of sexual desire, but not related to measures of hypersexuality.
so when you take a lot of self-identified "sex addicts" and rate them according to two self-measures: high libido and hypersexuality - it's high libido which correlates with brain differences in response to sex stimuli, not hypersexuality (sex addiction).
>>35135367
Didn't read your copy pasta.
No bother since you're too busy rubbin your tiny dick to tranny porn!
Such high test
Wow
Very sole
Dyel
Such mire
Wow
So swole
>>35135667
Who said anything about high test or being lean or alpha? Do you even know what you're talking about? You're just getting angry over nothing. Serious question, how old are you?
>>35135024
>>35135015
>>35134877
>>35134859
shouldnt you guys be on /pol/
take of your tin foil hats
>>35134657
I literally do have high test and I've been fapping to porn since age 11
I'm 20 and cutting right now and still waking up with wood despite fapping before bed
>>35135684
Nah man my post was about how I don't fap. Have a free upfap on the house. Also I'm not gay so don't watch tranny porn.
>>35135685
Then let's see that hot af, juicy, swole, thick, solid, tight body Mr Strongfap brilliant scientist of genius gains :)
>>35135731
Answer the question.
>>35135738
Didn't even read your question. Post the body pic, fucktard
22
>>35135775
>22
Ah never mind then. Opinion discarded.
>>35135738
It's time for us to see how sexy you are, lil' dick rubber
>>35135783
Let's see your pic, lil dick rubber :)
>any age he says, I'll just say discarded even though I got fucking thrashed
>>35134920
cumming is good for the prostate, get a gf
>>35135783
I'm so glad the 55 year old sage of "fap you little dick 22 times a day" posted in this thread!
Have you guys ever seen him??
He has soooo much knowledge (way more than agelets of lesser age)
He's gains are amazing too (even at 55, his test is so fucking high he out lifts arne in his prime)
And his looks! (He proves it in every thread with pics. His facial aesthetics are unmatched!)
I'm so fucking glad you posted in this thread
Oh thank you my brilliant senpai older sage of fap your tiny dick every day! Oh thank you!
>>35135553
Bluepilled as fuck desu
>>35135785
>>35135790
>>35135835
top kek
I have 8-9/10 facial aesthetics with a 1,600lb total at 6'/190lbs. Dick is 8x6. I'm white. I do well. I'm just not a tryhard. I believe that I do not need to be in your face about it however. That's why I don't wear tank tops with "fun memes" on them when it's not even hot outside. Stay pleb dyel redditor. Lmao don't bother replying I'm exiting out of this thread as soon as I post this.
#roasted
#put the bitch in his place
#alphas gon alpha
>>35134657
SHOO SHOO GAINS GOBLIN!
Why do you people want others to fail so much? There's no benefit for you in it, is there?
>>35134657
You know I had a friend who did webcams where he would get paid to jack off. I've come to find out that there are two kinds of people in this world: those who get paid to jack off and those who don't. The question is which one of those will you become?
>>35135886
Literally made fun of you by saying these lies in a mocking tone, and you still tried to estat literally your entire life. Good job, lil fapper (I know you'll check back and read this :)
>>35134820
fedora much?
>>35135886
Do you know how stupid this makes you look?
Did you even read this before clicking post?
Because everybody on fit is actually 7 feet tall with an 18 foot dick, 20 10/10 fuckbuddies who would take a bullet for them and can easily deadlift all the weights in the gym. Get with the times, bud!
>>35134657
Breaking news!
I walked.
>>35135928
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2w9X_tHU7k
>>35134657
Nice scientific research source, i wonder if they have studies about the impact of the moon on fat people
>>35136010
>nice research source
http://www.socioaffectiveneuroscipsychol.net/index.php/snp/article/view/20770
this is the study itself.
>>35136086
Thanks
>>35135059
>highschool drop out detected
>>35135360
I would if I could
>>35134657
>no fap is meme
Other news, water is wet and niggers steal shit, back to you John!
>>35135059
>You fucking guilible fucks, you will believe anything "science" tells you. Science ended in 18th century. Accept it.
This is what butthurt christkucks actually believe
The earth is only thousands of years old too right?
>>35134657
>losing protons
>losing energy
>feeling sleepy
spermjews these days
>>35136270
to be faitr with him it's true that people wave around science thinking that'll make them intelligent when they have no idea if what they're talking about is a proben fact a therory, an hypothesis or whatever
for the average guy, science became a real religion where he doesn't understand it but he has to believe it because it's part of science, the whole scienc became completely dogmatic for regular people
>>35134657
>52 people
>Self-prescribed "sex addicts"
>Watched "erotic stimuli"
Well no-fap has hundreds of thousands of samples, for people who don't have real sex and who suffer from ED, who were desensitised to the "erotic stimuli" softcore victoria's secret they were shown and only got hard at cowgirl farm porn.
And guess what, they also had thousands of people who found abstaining helped them get a natural libido and horniness, comparable to that of the study participants.
I honestly don't care whether porn is good or bad, it's still a sin that you shouldn't commit.
>>35136270
*tips fedora*
Porn isn't addictive, but that doesn't mean people with shitty discipline can't benefit from using laying off a good thing to condition themselves.
>>35136321
>someone who is desensitised
that isn't very surprising - it happens with all sorts of thing (eg. background noise), it doesn't mean that it's addiction.
>abstaining helped with natural libido
that isn't the same as saying they had an addiction, or that any of this stuff is "naturally addictive" and "inherently toxic".
I'm sure if you take anything to extremes it might hurt you and the extremes vary individually. The trouble with using "no-fap" as your source of information is it's selecting for those who already have issues even if they're a minority.
>>35136357
>it's a sin
explain why
>>35136379
yeah, I would expect any hard change involving will-power to alter the motivational system (more motivation, more self-control etc.).
These desperate autistic fedora tippers are in desperate need to attack religion (particularly Christianity) for their lack of self controlled, compulsive chronic masturbation habits. If jerking off is your escape mechanism towards reality, then you will always be asleep to your ignorance. Ejaculation and masturbation is temporarily reliefs due to chemical manipulation of endorphins, dopamine, etc. If you want to remain as a beast and not strive for a higher plane of conscious field, then feel free to release your life force.
>>35134657
>Fap away , Porn is for HIGH TEST males
Suuuure it is schlomo.
>>35136453
holding christians responsible for a pseudo-scientific movement -which they started- is entirely impartial and right.
>releasing life-force
has very little to do with this movement, a lot of it is about stimulation, not release.
>>35136416
>explain why
While the bible doesn't specifically mentions pornography, it does mention lust as one of the seven deadly sins, and it doesn't take a genius to see that viewing pornography is a way of committing lust.
Some people also argue that viewing porn is adultery, but since you're not physically having sex with the girl I disagree. However you are encouraging adultery since the man in the video is most likely not married to the girl.
>>35136465
>>Fap away , Porn is for HIGH TEST males
>Suuuure it is schlomo.
this aint /pol/ fuckboi
>>35136496
>viewing pornography is a way of committing lust.
If lust is immoderate sexual desire then it isn't relevant whether it's sexual media or a monogamous "entirely for reproduction" marriage.
>adultery
I'm not on the side of abrahamic social structure anyway.
>>35136465
it isn't like high-test males are having sex with 10/10s every other day, this "it's only for losers with no alternative" is irrelevant.
>>35136496
>you have to have a marriage without lust otherwise you are sinning
fuck you old grandpa
I don't give a fuck about your sources. I got ED from porn and I got it bad.
Since I stopped watching porn my dick is back in business.
Like I said kike, porn induced erection dysfunction is real.
>>35136538
it's funny because men who can fuck 10/10 at leisure are mostly beta-men who went full money route and buy escorts whenever they want
>>35136552
that's what you get from fapping to furries dumbass
>>35134657
No porn isn't the same thing at all.
Porn is degenerate, and makes you a literal kek. Fapping to qts, preferably that you know and doesn't mind, is fine.
>>35135360
Holy shit, I have been doing this for like 3 months now. It cured my ED for sure. Shit is cash.
>>35134657
Literally for the first time in all of existence can we view and watch any single sexual act on a screen at any time. If you're going to defend that and try and pretend it's ok and healthy...Fucking lord people are dumb.
Porn definitely desensitizes you and warps how you look at women for sure.
>>35136552
this is like gluten-free advocates saying no-one else is allowed gluten either.
>>35136511
So? It's no secret jews play a big role in the pornography business and op pretending like porn is natural and healthy is misinformation.
>>35135059
Our own reflections only show what we can see.
Emphasis on the word "see".
>>35136542
Sex between two married people is a wonder, it's actually encouraged. Sex is about loving your partner, and is good for us (spiritually and physically)
>>35136601
Hey m8. Fap all you want, I don't give a fuck about what you do.
I'm just saying I'm done with that shit. No limp dick for me.
>>35134657
no porn works tho, in way that you watch some male fucking woman like a kek
think about it, you see porn where is male fucking female and another male is sitting on chair masturbaring. word kek crosses your mind and you chuckle.
but wait a second, its excatly the same thing you are doing. you are masturbating to some dude fucking some chick, making you a kek
masturbate to male fucking female
>kek
masturbate to for example solo girls
>not kek
you should test it and see how you actually feel
>>35136617
yeah like mormons with their anti-lust underwear srs
>ITT: dopamine junkies getting mad as fuck.
Keep fapping to that stuff you will never ever experience in the bedroom lads. Beta keks.
this thread confirms /fit/ i the easiest board to troll.
>hurr I don't understand the 'stupid gymrat' stereotype, s'not because i wurk out that i'm dumm
>>35136642
Mormons are retarded.
The only sane churches is the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox.
>>35136591
why would it not be ok and healthy?
>definitely desensitises and warps how you view women
not everyone has these issues with it so until you're able to say that is "the normal response" all you're saying is "I and some others had desensitisation and warped views".
>>35136611
>natural
>healthy
these are not the same thing - surgery is not natural.
thing is, I snapped my back up so Im going to spend the whole weekend in bed. some motivtion would be nice
>>35136617
if lust is about immoderate desire then it's lust even if it's your wife who you're immoderate about.
>>35136683
If you need ''motivation'' to stop touching your dick you're beyond pathetic.
>>35136644
If your issue is not leaving the house or socialising enough that's unrelated to everything else except in as much as you might socialise more if you had less alternative options/distractions.
>>35136654
>sane
>church
>>35136654
I don't think it's ever mentally healthy to subordinate your reason to a source of authority like that.
>>35136644
Even when I've had a gf or steady fuckbuddy she would have to be there at all times and ready to fuck to keep me from fapping ever.
Go be low test somewhere else, and take your fat wife with you.
>>35136707
what are you trying to tell me?
>you are beyond pathetic for having poor self control
thx that helps
>fapping isn't bad just porn is
I am not having this discussion
>>35136684
>The dictionary definition of lust is "1) intense or unrestrained sexual craving, or 2) an overwhelming desire or craving.
>"For lust is a shameful sin, a crime that should be punished. It is a devastating fire that destroys to hell. It would wipe out everything I own."
Job 31:11-12
>Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul.
1 Peter 2:11
Sex is about love and sharing yourself with a partner. Sex shouldn't be about some easy way of getting pleasure.
>>35136741
pic related
>>35136755
What do you mean?
>>35136769
>I am not having this discussion
ok bye
>>35136761
Go be a porn addict somewhere else, and take your 5 terabyte of porn with you :^ )
Listen you beta faggots.
You are debating porn on a Persian freestyle carpet beating information depository
Instead of killing it in the gym
You are tugging your small cocks
To the guy that kills it in the gym
Fuck over it Senpai Tbh Smh
>>35136863
Why arent you killing it in the gym? Only people who dont lift think it takes all day.
>Sex is about love and sharing yourself with a partner.
I have a number of issues with that:
>you're assuming that, and I see no reason really to think sex -has- to be about one or the other
>why is love only with -one- partner?
>What do you mean?
I think it's healthy to resist "worldly" authority whether it associates itself with divine authority or not. I think they're lying to manipulate you in other words, so maybe it isn't that you're unhealthy though the situation is.
porn is not detrimental to your health
> I stop porn
>social gains in weeks
>harder erections
>find much more girls attractive
>happiness increases
>feel good about myself
>ambition skyhigh
It might not be addictive but it definately worked for me
porn and video games are for beta fucks anyway
>>35136927
Ok but how is finding "much more girls attractive" a benefit? You are gonna end up with some fatty.
>>35136936
How is posting in weeaboo imageboard NoFap thread on beta fuck scale?
>>35136947
if he finds her attractive why would he want to avoid it?
>>35136960
Knock her up and fail your life and whole lineage just because you got horny on nofap?
>190 / 17 / 63 / 2
>>35134657
I've always thought, and the reason why I do it, is because it teaches you to not give in to your urges. Releasing sexual tension is one of the most natural things a human can do, being able suppress those urges is beneficial. If you can do this, you can wake up early for the gym, avoid shitty food, do that last rep. It's all about self discipline.
>>35137082
>>35137082
over-use of the neocortex (anything anti-instinctive like self-control) is potentially disruptive of health.
>>35137101
are we talking about literally physical health or just mental state?
My Volkisch brothers! Ignore these snakes who attempt to fool you. Masturbation is the lowest form of degeneracy. Not only are you selfishly investing your time into nothing else but a little squirt of self-satisfaction and temporary sexually induced hypnosis but you are also draining yourself of your essential life-blood. Your seed is what makes you dangerous. Your seed is what makes you inspired. Your seed is what makes you man. Use it if you wish to bring a new life into this world, otherwise you are only maiming yourself spiritually.
These liars and scorpions attempt to appeal to your weakness but telling you that the act of self-masturbation is harmless. They lie, it is self-mutilation, there is no purpose other than to keep you docile, weak and impotent.
Heed my warning and prosper brother! Or join the wallowing ranks of impotent cattle.
>>35134657
>psychology
into the trash
>>35134657
Here's a crazy idea, learn to think for yourselves!
If you think porn is an unhealthy thing to have in your life, don't use it. If you think that it's perfectly okay, use away.
Isn't it crazy that people don't think exactly the same as you do?
>>35137126
the neo-cortex as I understand it represses instinctive responses in reaction to social signals - you want to sex up your friend's wife but repress instinctive responses because of the immediate social ramifications of not hiding your instinctive body language etc.
I think being overly "neocortical" would disrupt your relationship with your instinctive movements etc. if you were in that socially-influenced state all the time (always repressed) which I think is true in our society. We have a "method" for everything, and spend very little time in unrestrained instinctive movement.
If you look at a kid watching tv - I think it's typical that they lie upside down and drape over the sofa-arm and move around a lot. As they age they sit upright and still "as they're supposed to" and adults on the whole seem to sort of tighten up and lose expressive ability.
Where it hit home for me is when I read an interview in New Scientist with an experimental obstetrician who was saying women are losing their ability to undergo natural birth because the "operating room" environment is too loud and stimulating. I'm not sure that was related to neocortex specifically but he talked about not being able to access the instinctive "routines" in the brain because the environment was influencing them. He predicted we would lose the ability to have natural birth over multiple generations through to disuse.
>>35137185
>masturbation necessarily involves ejaculation
>>35136552
This this this
Everyone suffering from ED don't let this false study demotivate you, listen to this
>>35137272
>the end goal of masturbation is not ejaculation
>>35137246
over-socialization does cause psychological harm so that might be related
Fapping hurts literally nothing
All religion is fucking retarded with no evidence
This is the only truth I win
>>35137319
ejaculation is not the best part about stimulation ,so yeah i don't masturbate to ejaculation most of the time anyway
>>35137319
I hardly even enjoy orgasm if at all. I like the state of arousal.
>>35134657
I used to beat it to porn twice a day.
During sex, I couldn't stay hard.
Now, I don't fap for 48 hours before anticipated sex.
I have diamond dick for days. Its like I'm a teenager again. This inspires me to maybe work up to full no-fap forever
i don't mean to be a troll, but
i just leaked pre-semen when talking to a 7/10 girl just a few minutes ago. so did i just lose part of my alpha energy?
>>35137272
>no energy is lost in lustful thinking or touching
>>35137548
btw i haven't wacked it to porn for 5 days now. longest streak is 22 days, 2 weeks ago. i do believe women can sense the semen...
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1zxhpN5TAtM
g-guys...........................
>>35137557
sexual energy is not released, obviously you're using energy if your heart-rate increases etc.
>>35137185
I don't buy your dramatic writing, but I completely agree with what you propose. For the reason that giving in to pleasure, particularly strong pleasure of the sexual sort, lowers your discipline and makes you addicted to instant gratification instead of making you a great long-sighted man.
>>35137580
did you make this stupid shit? you sound fat and mexican you filthy greasy spic
>People forgetting porn is a bad addiction
>People have gone to rehab for it
>Men rather watch porn than try and find a woman
Ughhh yeah just sit inside goys and watch porn all day
>desperately trying to defend your degeneracy
impulsively watching hardcore fetish porn for 2+ hours per day isnt harmful guys
>>35137675
if you spend 2+ hours maxing out on your lifts every day it wouldn't be healthy either.
>>35137649
You sound like a low test faggot.
>>35137816
>2k16 /fit/ insults
>tfw 8.5x6 inch dick
>tfw no gf
>tfw no desire to get a gf
>tfw desire only to fuck
wat do brehs
>>35134877
Why would I want to fight a group or ideology that has higher moral standards? Why not do your best to live up to those standards instead?
>>35137329
Wait...what?! Please explain
You cant say scary shit like that and not explain
I thought we all understood nofap works because sexual transmutation.
>>35138517
He means having too many rules and repressing your behaviour. Not socialization as in talking to people. It's a term from Ted Kaczynski's manifesto on technology. Check it out, it's quite interesting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
>>35136552
How long did it take?
>>35138696
Self-censoring your psyche is bad
