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Doctor just told me nofap is bullshit
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Alright brehs, have I got a nofap story for you

>Three weeks ago hook up with random bar sloot
>Can't get erection when it comes time to bang
>Freak out and think my dick is broken so start on the nofap/no porn journey
>Week goes by and I get intense pain and swelling in my left testicle
>Think it's just blue balls, but internet sleuthing leads me to believe I might have epididymitis or worse
>Can't take the pain/swelling anymore and decide to fap to see what happens
>Hoover damn flood gates are opened
>Swelling and pain goes away few hours later
>Think I am cured
>4-5 days later pain / swelling returns to different testicle
>Fap again, even more cum this time
>All I can think of while I am cumming is like "Holy shit this is a lot of cum and it just won't stop"
>Pain and swelling go away a few hours later
>Visit the doctor today for a check up
>Explain my problems to him
>Am very worried I have an STD or infection or something wrong
>Has me drop my pants while he is on his knees poking my nut sack
>mfw he tells me you have been having bad cases of blue balls
>mfw he tells me to ejaculate at least 1-2 times a week to keep the pain and swelling down

Fuck nofap
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that's because nofap is fucking retarded and it's a complete troll, the only thing you should be doing is noporn
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>>35124974

Pretty much this. Regular ejaculation is very healthy. Getting to the point where you can't orgasm without specific pornography + self stimulation isn't.
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>>35124952

> this never happened
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>>35124974
>>35124988

Yeah that's the approach I am taking now. Last night I just closed my eyes and fapped to that bar sloot and got hard in like 30 seconds.
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>>35124974
No porn is legit, if someone says otherwise thats because they hasnt tryed
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>>35124974
>>35124974
>>35124974
>>35124974
>>35124974
This

All this BS started with noporn and then autistic faggots took it even further with no more reasoning added

yourbrainonporn
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>>35124988
>regular
What, once a week, once a day?
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>>35124974
I always wonder how people can see through how bullshit nofap is and still somehow fall for noporn.

inb4 some retard links that website with absolutely zero scientific research behind it
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You should only do /NoPorn/ you retard
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>>35125050
Whenever the urge is too strong, though I wouldn't recommend more than once a day at maximum

I don't "fall for noporn", I've just experienced not being able to have sex because I jerked off to porn ceaselessly. After not watching porn and cutting my fapping by 3/4 everything is now fine
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>>35124988
>Getting to the point where you can't orgasm without specific pornography + self stimulation isn't.
Is that true, though? Do you people REALLY get to that point? I mean, what the hell!
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>>35125068
second sentence was for this guy >>35125052
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>>35125083
You'd be surprised
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>>35125052
>zero scientific research
I think that you should take a closer look

Pornography addiction is a thing
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>>35125122
Yes, porn addiction is a thing.

Noporn is useless 99.9% of the time. Unless you're spending 6 hours a day just watching porn, you're not addicted and cutting porn will give you absolutely no benefits unlike what noporners claim. It's just as retarded as nofap.
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>>35124952

For real, brah? I can go weeks without fapping and I get no pain.

I also thought that blue balls was bullshit invented by betas to force girls to fuck them using their empathy and desire to save others.

Is blue ball a real thing?
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>>35124974
>noporn

Bullshit. Porn is dead to me, through frequent use for over a decade, and now, guess what, I fap to FB pictures and celebs and it makes me come even harder. It doesn't matter what you fap to.
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>>35125050

When you're actually horny and not just bored or trying to go to sleep
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>>35124988
>>35124974
>>35125052
You shouldn't be surprised your doctor would give you this brand of medical advice.

I'm sure this doctor has no problem at all dishing out anti-depressants or ADD pills either.

Western medicine is built on the preference of treating the symptoms instead of the disease. So of course it sounds like crazy bullshit to your average western educated doctor.

Take your glance over to the East and it becomes a different story. Over thousands of years ago the Chinese came up with similar conclusions to NoFap

Many Taoist practitioners link the loss of ejaculatory fluids to the loss of vital life force: where excessive fluid loss results in premature aging, disease, and general fatigue. While some Taoists contend that one should never ejaculate, others provide a specific formula to determine the maximum amount of regular ejaculations in order to maintain health. The general idea is to limit the loss of fluids as much as possible to the level of your desired practice. As these sexual practices were passed down over the centuries, some practitioners have given less importance to the limiting of ejaculation. Nevertheless, the "retention of the semen" is one of the foundational tenets of Taoist sexual practice.

Masturbation is as "healthy" as the "healthy: and accepted practice of transsexualism. Just another hedonistic desire that people have realized it would be easier to stop fighting and just accept. This allows you to submit to your primal urges and become the animal you truly are. Chasing frivolity over chasing destiny.

But sure, masturbate. Do it daily. I'm sure some Prozac would lighten your mood. Because after all chronic masturbators are known for their happiness and high social skills.
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>>35125184
>porn addiction is a thing
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>just as retarded as nofap

Using that kind of hyperbole makes you the fucking retard
Nofap is dumb because it's literally healthy to ejaculate every so often
Watching porn gives you nothing positive at all
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>>35125226
You can be just as addicted to masturbating to your fucking imagination, so I guess masturbation addiction exists and nofap does have some benefits too!
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>>35125196
I used to be like this. Guess body changes over time? The amount of semen though for only being 4-5 days between faps really surprised me.
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>>35125226
>Watching porn gives you nothing positive at all

It turns you on and makes you ejaculate more, better, faster, higher.

You'll get more benefits from a good session than from a bad one. It doesn't matter whether porn turns you on more than, say, watching some celeb with her hot legs crossed. Anything that turns you on does the job.
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>>35125273

Evolution made us so we could fuck frequently and inseminate frequently. Women are supposed to be pregnant all the fucking time, for instance. That's why using the contraceptive bar in the arm works best and gives women better health, because it fools the body into thinking it's pregnant, which is healthier for a woman.

Men aren't even supposed to go a week without shooting a load.
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>>35125225
Yeah, they also learned to force a retrograde ejaculation and thought that they were holding it all in.

It was a wholly spiritual concept with no basis in reality. It's why it was a religion, and not science.
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>>35125225

>muh antimasturbation stance

Doctors, for centuries, thought masturbation was dangerous for one's health.

it's objectively healthy, and saying otherwise makes you a fucking idiot who can't see that a dick doesn't care what stimulates it: hand or vagina. Makes no difference. If it wasn't healthy to come, evolution would have either made it healthy or made us die.

Transsexualism, however, has no future and will always remain marginal, as it's always been. Comparing it to masturbation is another thing that makes you a fucking idiot.

>repressed little faggot

And don't blaspheme God with your BS. Nothing in Christianity condemns it.
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>>35125306
Its no surprise religions across the planet came to the conclusion that masturbation is bad and that you shouldn't do it. It's damaging on a societal, personal and spiritual level.

The fact that religion and science have been highly intertwined is lost on the average teenage atheist.


The great men in history were all highly sexed, with abundant reservoirs of what the ancients would call qi/prana, and they found ways to transmute this life energy into genius. "For the purpose of refreshing the memory, in connection with the facts available from the biographies of certain men, we here present the names of a few men of outstanding achievement, each of whom was known to have been of a highly sexed nature.

"This study disclosed the fact that the major reason why the majority of men who succeed do not begin to do so before the age of forty to fifty, is their tendency to DISSIPATE their energies through over indulgence in physical expression of the emotion of sex. The majority of men never learn that the urge of sex has other possibilities, which far transcend in importance, that of mere physical expression. The majority of those who make this discovery, do so after having wasted many years at a period when the sex energy is at its height, prior to the age of forty-five to fifty. This usually is followed by noteworthy achievement.

The lives of many men up to, and sometimes well past the age of forty, reflect a continued dissipation of energies, which could have been more profitably turned into better channels. Their finer and more powerful emotions are sown wildly to the four winds. Out of this habit of the male, grew the term, "sowing his wild oats."

The desire for sexual expression is by far the strongest and most impelling of all the human emotions, and for this very reason this desire, when harnessed and transmuted into action, other than that of physical expression, may raise one to the status of a genius."
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>>35125390
Bla bla bla, oh shut up, christfag. Don't you have little boys to rape?
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Somebody is mad am I triggering you?

>>35125360
>saying otherwise makes you a fucking idiot who can't see that a dick doesn't care what stimulates it: hand or vagina. Makes no difference.

You might not care about the different but your brain does. " After orgasm from sexual intercourse, the increase in blood prolactin (a hormone released after orgasm) levels is 400 per cent higher in both sexes compared with after orgasm from masturbation. The hormone prolactin makes us feel satiated by countering the effect of dopamine, which is released during sexual arousal"

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2006/02/24/orgasms-best-in-sex-vs-masturbation/

>Nothing in Christianity condemns it.
The ejaculation of semen results in only a one-day impurity that requires laundering and ablutions ( Leviticus15:16-18)
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>>35125405
You know when a little boy sticks his hands in hsi ears and goes "LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU"

Thats you.
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>>35125225
>Nevertheless, the "retention of the semen" is one of the foundational tenets of Taoist sexual practice.

Yeah, and see how far it got them...

What made Catholicism so powerful isn't some stupid "nofap" philosophy, but the idea of doing things for a reason.
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>>35125390
>other than that of physical expression, may raise one to the status of a genius

And that's when you make it, huh, sensei?

Can I live?
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>>35125459

>The ejaculation of semen results in only a one-day impurity that requires laundering and ablutions ( Leviticus15:16-18)

Do Christians believe this? I thought y'all were retarded before, but this is just ridiculous.
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>>35125405
Don't you have bananas to put up your ass, fedoralord?
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>>35124952
>>Has me drop my pants while he is on his knees poking my nut sack
>>mfw he tells me you have been having bad cases of blue balls

priceless
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>>35125184
this sounds like a logical fallacy to me ;D
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>>35125502
China became the only major cultural sphere on the planet other than European so I guess it went pretty well.

Europeans have had direct contact with China since the Roman Empire, and were viewed as inferiors for centuries because they were. Only in the 1800s was that image changed and it gave the Chinese Empire a serious identity crisis.
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>>35125548
Try masturbating before cold approaching a girl.

Hell try even making eye contact with anything over a 7/10 after masturbating in the same day.
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Went to my fav coffee spot yesterday after work and sat down in the only seat available beside this man. I immediately noticed his deep voice, presence and i thought he looks like an ex boxer or something. So i was sitting there just playing some chess and that's how we started talking, first about chess, then he brought up how men this generation do not partake in those sorts of activities. He asked me who introduced me to the game and we continued chatting, i asked him what he did and he said he was now retired, leading to his military history. I asked about his youth, what was it like in the 60's and 70s, and the conversation naturally went to women/men. What he said next really took me back, he said it with confidence, assertivness and indiference as to how i took it, saying men have become 'soft' 'no big personalities' anymore he said. I asked him what he attributed to this lack of confidence in men now a days and i kid you not he looked at me with assertiveness and he said 'what you think, all this jerking off in front of the computer'... He said 'No man can resist that much smut in front of him' and carried on about 'that' ruining his son's life who's been divorced 3 times and so he went on about his son's life, all the tragedy, all the failures and how he told him to quit porn when he caught him as a teenage boy.

There you have it... we've become a generation of zombies, if we're not plugged in to porn, its gaming or another useless pleasure reward.
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>>35124952
Did the doc's name happen to end with "berg" or "stein?"
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>>35125548
>looking at old covenant rules that are clearly no longer necessary

C'mon
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Yes, we guys do get horny for sure. But I am willing to venture that 95% of fapping is not due to being horny. I think it's to avoid feeling painful emotions we don't want to feel. Fapping gives us a burst of instant pleasure or else hours lost in distracted fantasy, both of which are pleasurable. I think it's easy to just say it's just due to hornyness. I bet if you really sit for a moment and ask 'What am i really feeling right now, beyond the urge to Fap?" I bet you may discover loneliness, a desire for connection, emptiness, anxiety, sadness, frustration or many other emotions.

I honestly think the main reason Fapping is such a let down is not just the dopamine drop afterwards, but that the real desire behind it is for human connection. To feel close to someone, less alone in the world. And for a few moments, we bond with that image on the screen, we feel part of what we are seeing, But like cold water or a pie in the face, the joke is on us after because in the end, it's just us with our dick in our hand and a mess to clean up.

Alone. The craving for connection not fulfilled. In fact, we will more disconnected and for some of us, shameful. We got the EXACT opposite result of what we were searching for.

Point trying to make is just use the "i'm just so horny, I can't help it" is an excuse to Fap. Look a bit deeper, find the real emotion/life situation you want to escape from, and then think of how to solve the problem in the real world instead. Call a friend, talk with you teacher about the bad grade you got, strike up a conversation with the person standing in line behind you. Fix what needs to be fixed. I think this makes more sense. I know it's the harder way, but that's why we are here. The easier way doesn't work and never will.
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So what about amateur porn pics, are those kosher?
For me porn has become the equivalent to a woman's vibrator:
I can get off without it, but using porn makes it much easier/faster at the expense of desensitization.
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>>35125225
If your unhappy, fatigued, and can't socializes from jerking it a couple times a week you are a weak person to begin with, and a prime example of a natural born beta.
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>>35125638
>berg
Funnily enough it did end in "berg". He was from South Africa.
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>>35124974
THISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHISTHIS

srs tho

a few years ago i discovered nofap (from a thread right here in /fit/) and even tho i tried not touching my balls for up 60 days at a time and then finding out about noporn (right here also) i hardly noticed any difference.

If there's any fellow nofappers out there lemme just tell you that noporn is where it's at. af course, I dont mean you can binge jerking off 5+times a day just creeping up on instagram qts. try to reduce that shit to at least twice a weak.

TLDR: nofap is dumb
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>>35125653
I feel like that all could be said for drugs, alcohol, tv, gaming, internet, etc.
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Your mistake OP was panicking because you couldn't get it up. Its probably because you were dinking but even if you weren't sometimes shit just doesn't work out. It doesn't mean your dick is broken or you're secretly gay. Unless it keeps happening then its not a problem
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>>35125753
Yes. This is the point entirely. If you smoked cigs every day youd be an addict. Its a vice.

You should be working to limit it in your life, Of course people will take it to the extreme like some alcoholics quit alcohol all together.

Nobody is saying "Gee I wish I masturbated more"
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>>35124952
>People here on /fit/ actually think porn makes real sex less enjoyable
>They probably also think porn makes you autistic

Every normal person with a gf and pays rent watches porn and jerks off to it several times a week. For fuck sakes, its like you guys just don't want friends and not know what normal life is like.
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>>35125753
Yep. Anything that you do too much can become an addiction, particularly if you can't help it.

But while drugs and alcohol addictions will wreck your life, the others will just waste a lot of time. While there is no good addiction, some of them are worse.
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>>35125225
>Following old gook teachings because you watch fucked up porn
Your fedora is showing
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>>35125196

Blue balls is usually brought on by having an erection and/or stimulation for a long period of time, like an hour or more. Really bad cases can be mistaken for something more serious like testicular torsion.
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>>35125778
Homie, whiskey dick isn't not being able to get it up, whiskey dick is not being able to cum. Just wanted to clarify since most people never reach that level of drunkenness and fucking combined.
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>>35125981

Not him, but I've always heard it as being unable to get hard. Even a cursory Google backs me up on this.
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>>35125690
And did it start with "Zoid"?
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>>35125482
>>we should forgive our enemies
>so deeb and beautiful

top_kek.pcx
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>>35126079

mfw C U C K C H A N filters C U C K.
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>>35124952
The blog Chaos and Pain run by Jamie Lewis has an article on. no fap called "No Fap More Like No Fucking Way.." a bit more to the title but I just forgot the rest no gap is bullish flapping and sex increases testosterone among other things. Just don't watchpornography. if you have you watch stick to the regular shit.
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>>35125690
You mean south Africa the original kuck nation?
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>>35125482
>they're all scams anyway

SUPRISE
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>>35124974
They're both bullshit you retarded fucking quaker
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>>35124952
You forgot to mention how spent nearly every waking moment of the day fantasizing about sex and women. Nofap only works if you're mind is pure, otherwise it's just torture. This is a treacherous place for any of us to be, truthfully.
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>>35125390
Good post brother. Refining and transmuting that energy as we speak.
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>>35125052

Well what exact kind of research or science do you require for proof?

Scientific PROOF takes a LOT of large scale studies tracking men for many years consuming, a control group as well.

You're demanding essentially a multi billion dollar 20 year experiment, that will, by the way, have a massive corporate conflicting interest working against it.

What you do have however is a vast number of men who have stopped watching porn and whose health and lives have dramatically improved.
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>>35126348
That book was written by a guy who pounded dick with his ass for cash. Go ahead, take his advice, just don't forget to inject a couple goblets worth of test-E every night.
Transmuting sexual energy has been a life changer for me and has proved itself to me again and again. Every now and then it's good to get off that train of productivity, focus and assertiveness. It can be exhausting to be so involved in life.
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>>35125184

So essentially your reasoning boils down to "its poopoo stick yucky so ignore it".

This is the kind of dismissiveness seen in very low IQ people. They have to categorize everything into good/bad, all/nothing.

Can YOU Debunk the theory that over use of porn desensitizes the dopamine receptors in the brain leading to erectile dysfunction?

No, not some "well so and so days this", fuck that. Can YOU specifically explain WHY that would not happen, in detail?
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>>35125272

Generally the ability to focus on what we are imagining has limitatons due tonthe required focus.

Porn on the other hand makes the novelty all to easy and quickly over does it.
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>>35125653
Very well said anon, thank you
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>>35124952
There's is definitely something wrong with you, but more likely this story is bullshit.
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NoFap is the shit

+Strength
+Need less sleep, wake up full of energy
+Brain fog gone, much sharper
+Memory doubled, things like remembering names and small details is easy
+I no longer think in conversation, it just flows
+Girls staring at me
+Skin, hair, and eyes all looks incredibly improved
+Motivation
+Hours of time saved from searching porn and jacking off
+While on NoFap I also quit weed, alcohol, cigs

If you guys feel discouraged listening to the nay-sayers, don't: REJOICE

It's better for us this way. If these guys never find out or practice NoFap, and you are currently doing it, you have one up on them. You have an advantage in your pocket that will help you everywhere in life, and these fucking losers playing with their dicks staring at pixels will never have the willpower to feel what you will soon feel.

I'm currently day 6, longest streak was 40 days - I can't even describe the night and day difference between 40 days nofap and days of binge.

God speed to the nofappers out there, good luck to those who refuse to try it. I hope you try it because I want everyone to make it, but if you're gonna shun this wisdom because you're still mentally a little child who needs to be told to stop playing with himself... well its your life whatever brah

>>35125225
>>35125390
>>35125653

Good shit guys. Don't let it upset you at all if someone isn't listening, it's their loss
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>>35124952
You're a faggot OP. You've probably been jerking off twice a day for years and that's why stopping caused issues. Use your head faggot. You've probably also been edging yourself recklessly and not thinking about the consequences. Stupid faggot.

The master path is edging and letting yourself leak some precum and cum but never having a full ejaculation until you're inside pussy. You can keep this up forever and you will not only not suffer blue balls you will feel like an animal.

Don't even bother with nofap if you're already one of those faggots who jerks off 2-3x a day. You need to ease into it. And if you're a teenager, you're going to suffer from nofap as in you'll become a rapist in your mind because nofap isn't for teenagers it's for men.

Bunch of stupid faggots.
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>>35128589
Can you prove god doesn't exist?!??!

This is my way of telling you that you're retarded and that burden on proof is on the one making the retarded claim.
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I was addicted to porn so decided to do no porn but it's also had to be no fap despite me planning to fap to imagination.

26 days in and my dick is RIP. Aside from a few half mast morning woods I haven't had any erections and none that have been remotely close to full.

I would be fine with fapping to imagination and believe occasional masturbation is healthy but it's simply not an option for me. My dick won't get hard without porn.

What do I do? Just stay the course? I just want to be normal again but this is not normal.
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>>35129348

It's completely normal, it's called the flatline.

You know what isn't normal?

>My dick won't get hard without porn.

That's not fucking normal. You've proven to yourself that your dick and your brain has been broken by porn and your own hand, a healthy man should be able to be rock solid over just dirty thoughts.

But you being in a flatline is a good thing. Push through it, it could take weeks or months (or days, depends) but you'll be much more sexually healthy at the other side of this.
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>>35125390
Please explain how I turn my desire to bang every girl I see into being a successful man. I'm 100% serious right now.
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>>35129436

Your jizz is pretty much the energy of creation, you have the potential to create millions of humans with your load.

You exist (at least biologically) to breed. It's your sole biological purpose, to spread your seed. To spread the seed, you have to be the best candidate for the females.

You jack off consistently to thousands of different women in every different possible fetish or scenario, and your brain doesn't know the difference. Your actions of watching porn tell your brain that you're pretty much Ghenghis Khan in terms of the harem of women you have available, you are completely sexually spread and satisfied. And now your biological drive to go out and do shit in order to spread your seed is gone.

Try not jacking off for 90 days. Your biological urges will literally pick you up against your will and get your ass out that door and into real life as if it was your sole purpose in life - because according to your biology it is.

How to be successful with it? It's just a ton of energy, if you have the willpower and mental ability to put that energy and power into whatever pursuit you decide to
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>>35125083
Yeah happened to me, got to a stage I could only fap to traps
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>>35129498
>If you don't jack off for 90 days you will go outside against your will
You are a weak son of a bitch you know that?
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>>35124952
>People actually believe this story.

No doctor is gonna say «yup, you've got blue balls alright».

Also OP, you're suffering from performance anxiety, it happened to me too, with a girl who was a one night stand.
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>>35129498
>put that energy and power into whatever pursuit you decide to
This. The hard part is finding a pursuit worthy. Best of luck to those of you who walk this lonely road. The precipice is on the horizon.
Physical mastery is only the beginning. The possibilities of the mind eclipse the basic limitations of the body in all fields. Use your energy for mental pursuits if you wish to be wise.
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>>35124952
>1-2 times a week to keep the pain and swelling down
>a week
I fap like 4-7 times per day the idea of people doing it less than twice a day bewilders me

I also can still get hard when banging my gf (I used to think my dick broke til I realized putting on a condom ruined my momentum, now shes on the pill) and I still jump back and forth from public gangbangs in public parks to basic lewd ladies in lingerie

Whats wrong with you guys that you think you need to abstain grom your God right just to jerk off?
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>>35124952
Yea, no shit. Fuck head.
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>>35129348
This is why nofap is retarded and dangerous. If you don't touch your dick at all you will lose it, and no it's not a "flatline" like this faggot>>35129426
is saying. You will literally be impotent until you start learning to fap to your imagination.
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>>35125068
How long did it take to get regular erections without porn?
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>>35124974
I am so much happier with my life without porn.

Imaginationfap is best fap.
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>falling for the nofap meme

You brought this on yourself
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I have cybersex with girls on omegle. They're usually smokin (I have no idea how, and no, they're not bots). Is this going to boost my test and make me a better man, or is it just as bad or worse than fappping to normal porn?
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>>35125225
I can see your fedora on the computer screen pham.
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>>35129274
>It's better for us this way. If these guys never find out or practice NoFap, and you are currently doing it, you have one up on them.

You sound like a cult member that has found the "SECRET THAT NO ONE ELSE KNOWS BUT THE ENLIGHTENED ONES".

We all fucking know that abstaining from masturbation is helpful. Just don't act all fucking culty and above everybody like this fuck right here. All your fucking "superpowers" is you just gaining some self-control you would have had otherwise if you had just done something ELSE positive with your life.

I can't wait till this meme gets picked up by normies then burns itself out.
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>>35125937

>testicle torsion

Got that shit while in the army. I promise you no case of blue balls hurts as much. It was like having a thousand hammers smashing my balls. It makes me cringe just remembering that.
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>>35125937
I remembering going to the emergency room a year ago because I had a horrible case of blue balls for the first time in my life.

I have never had blueballs in my entire life up until that point. When I was in the waiting room it only dawned on me till then that I might have blue balls. I was on day 30 of NoFap and I just decided to clean the pipes.

I felt so much better afterwards.
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if you want the deepest experience with porn you need to adjust your screen to Black and White monochrome.

Your brain and your dreams are not in color... and memories are stored and recovered in black and white. Try as hard as you want... what you think is dreaming in color is impossible and is just an over reaction of blank space filling in the details of your imagination.

This why your dreams are cloudy because you try and view them in color.. back to my point.. if you watch porn in monochrome black and white... your brain will burn that deep into your memory spank bank and you will be able to instantly recall every detail and have a massive hard on faster and stronger.

Dont trust me, trust science.
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>>35125390
[Desire to know more intensifies]
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>>35125482
>"Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill
>For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
>Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."
supposedly a quote from hayzeus crisco himself...

well then.. let's look at the law, and seem some of the "least" of these commandments that jesus himself wants us to keep

>"He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
ok, that seems a bit weird for the creator of the universe to care about, but whatever.. not too crazy i guess
>"Master, Moses wrote unto us, If a man's brother die, and leave his wife behind him, and leave no children, that his brother should take his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother."
i get to bang my brother's wife if he dies? well.. again odd but.. i can dig it.

>If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
>Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.

so i get to rape a bitch, and get a waifu, for the low-low cost of $420.98?
sounds like a bargain.

maybe i can get into this christianity business.

>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

oh fuck, i guess i need to be put to death... it was fun while it lasted.
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I love how desperately some people try to defend porn. It's clear they are extremely addicted and don't want to see their habit as something that is damaging to their brain and their sexual health.

Porn isn't good for you and you need to drop it immediately. The benefits I've personally felt from stopping porn have been amazing. It's the way your brain is supposed to be like, I really have 0 desire to watch porn now. I just wanna fuck all the hot girls I see and I do so by talking to them and/or putting myself in social situations
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>>35125360
Med student here, the whole antimasturbation thing actually has a bit of an interesting history. But, in as many words back in the day people kept masterbation private and the ones who were caught mastrbating usually were mentally ill to begin with. Combine that with Christianity and you end up with Iran level fuckery
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>>35125390
hey there /fringe/

>>35132795
http://pastebin.com/YH4uZeNH
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>>35132971
normie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>35132764
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When it comes to my body, I don't listen to anyone else (except doctors)

When I fap too much, I lose energy in the gym
When I don't fap for a week, I want to fuck everything in sight and I have the energy of a fucking primal caveman
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>>35125459
>http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2006/02/24/orgasms-best-in-sex-vs-masturbation/
> Since elevated levels of prolactin have been linked to erectile dysfunction, this may also explain why most men need a recovery period after sex
does this mean actual sex could lead to ED while jerking it wouldnt?
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>>35125184
other than fapping with a crushing grip at least once a day, takes me ages to cum when having sex and close to impossible if I'm drunk
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>>35124974
>>35124988
these
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>>35129274
>all these lies and placebo bullshit
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>>35132764
>This is why your dreams are cloudy because you try and view them in color.
My dreams aren't cloudy though...
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>>35125225
>>35125390
>>35129274

I gues you fags are for circumcision too?
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>>35125196
I got to the 7th day of nofap and had a serious case of blue balls. It was intolerable and i had to fap
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>>35124974
I don't think most of us need porn to fap, but its far faster and enjoyable with it that without.
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>>35126110
kek
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>>35125225

Sorry for responding to an old post but I think it should be made clear that the Taoism thing is not a part of Taoism but instead a belief of some sects of people who practice Taoism, there is nothing in the Tao Te Ching about masturbation and many view masturbation as a way of following the Tao.

Also what the hell are you talking about with this anyway lmao you literally just copy pasted the part about taoism from wikipedia
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>>35124952
2TB porn collector for 10 years. Fap 2-3 times a day for 3 years now. Doing it once every two days. Feel so much better now with much more energy. It only took a shitty online breakup where the girl got pissy at my porn collecting habits. Noporn frees up alot of time
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>>35125083
I can't understand why premaure ejaculators can't just watch tons of porn and jerk off with a death grip.
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Hey bros my gf wants to fuck every day (a lot of times twice) so I am constantly depleted of semen. I've also gotten weaker at the gym, is she a gains goblin?
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>>35132052
things I feel that pic ignores:
- fapping does make you tired. Chronic fapping can lead to chronic fatigue (not in a literal sense)
- Fapping a lot decreases sensitivity, especially when done hard and fast. This is part of the cause for ED.
- The porn studies he cites I have no idea, but I call bullshit. The homepage of x-videos today looks nothing like the homepage five or ten years ago. Porn pushes memes onto the users. Big tits, asses, interracial, DP, threesomes etc. Sure men might search "big tits" a lot, but the hits they get and what they watch will be different.
- People replicate porn in real life. Look at how sexual behaviour has changed.


Seems this faggot totally ignores how porn is a totally destructive vice. The point too about no fap as he himself admits is that it CREATES SEXUAL URGE. Those sexual urges should be spent pursuing real women not beating it off to pixels on a screen.

If a man satiates all his sexual desires from porn he will have less motiviation to find a woman, and if he does find a women it'll be comparatively boring to what he's used to (even if a virgin).

also
>psychology
>real science

pick one
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33 yr old man here, thought I would give you all my perspective as there is a lot of discussion about this topic. I once tried no fap and I lasted 2 weeks, I had ridiculous energy at 2 weeks that it was similar to a caffeine boost. However, this was my first time and I still looked at porn and the urge to fap was bad so I was edging. This was my downfall, I had severe pain in my balls and had to fap which lead to me giving up.

I am trying again now and on day 3, this time though I thought about why I do it so much and what causes it. My room is plastered with anime posters of girls and whatnot, the whole anime theme going on but don't think of me as a fat neck beard, I workout 5 times a week and do muay thai. This time though I have decided to take down all my anime posters and get rid of anything sexual, I am doing this to focus my mind on other things, I don't want to be a slave to my sexual urges.

Now they say that these reports and studies have no evidence, well I am the evidence, been jerking since I was 12 to porn and it started with normal porn, then hentai, then more extreme stuff and futa girls which is my favorite kink. This led me to have sex with a tranny and it was fun. However, this porn has fucked me up mentally, I am depressed, fatigued , have a hatred for real women , always have to take caffeine to give me energy and I lack motivation. I am typing this because I want people to know the bad effects of regular porn, it saps your will to do other things and twists your mind into a pervert who gets hard at dark and weird fantasies. I would not recommend no fap for anyone under 25, your hormones are at there highest , just do no porn.

This is my experience and I think younger people should take note, just think to yourself how much time you spend looking at the screen, is this how you want to live your life...
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Why does it feel so satisfying to blow a huge load.

I've always wondered this.
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>>35125225
I'm a medfag and this is fedora-tier broscience

Extremely rare to none sexual activity is related to prostate inflammation which leads to prostate cancer.
Your prostate won't tell the difference between sticking your dick in another body or in a hole made with your hand.
Also, your hand is less likely to give you an std

>>35124952
Left testicle pain might be caused by varicocele (it happens only in the left test in 90% of the times, due to its particular anatomy). You should see an andrologist or urologist.
Does it calm down when you lay on your bed?
Does it happen when you wear tight jeans, when you stand up for long or when you exercise?
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>>35125052
Why do you need science to tell you watching other people fuck all day probably isn't good for you?
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>fap 3 - 4 times a day
>fuck my gf 2 times more until she's sore
>still horny

being a tyrannosaurus is suffering
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>>35133794
Not that guy but
>Look at how sexual behaviour has changed.
What study have you made, that has determined that sexual behaviour has changed?
And changed since when? Since 50 years ago? 100? 2000?
I'm not saying you're wrong, just that you make a statement without anything to back it up.
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>>35133970
This. When I shoot large quantities, the orgasms aren't generally even that great. Idk f/am
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>>35125225

yet when these taoist and mother fuckin guru shamans get ACTUALLY sick which model of medicine to they come running to?

oh yeah western biomedicine.

lmaoin @ u senpai.
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Do it for the discipline gains.
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>>35124974
This.
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>>35134061
It was alternating between testicles. When it first started it was pain around the left testicle. I felt around and it felt like the epidydimis was swollen as well as the tubing. Was like a heavy feeling. Pain would go away when I would lay in bed for a while. No pain in the morning when I woke up at 8 AM, but by 2-3 PM the pain would come on. Ejaculating relived the pain.

Week later same symptoms only in the other testicle.
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Don't watch porn.

Literally wastes time.
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>Fap.
>More aggressive and spots.
>Don't fap.
>Not as aggressive and no spots on my face.
Is there a link?
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>>35125225
>Take your glance over to the East and it becomes a different story. Over thousands of years ago the Chinese came up with similar conclusions to NoFap

nigger
nofap has been around in the west forever, too. back then it was christian priests who condemned it because it was considered sinful, and they spread stories about how masturbation would make hair grow on your palms or blind you.

now that they largely lost their influence, along come random internet morons and do the same thing again.
>oy vey if you fap you will lose all your energy!

different people, but same brand of moron at the core.
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>>35124952
Breh if fapping stops you from doing anything, you're low test. I fap at LEAST once a day and I still get laid and make gainz. Even when I had a qt3.14gf I still fapped almost every day because she wasn't about to fuck me 2-3 times a day and I need the release because my life is so god damn stressful.

now I might have a problem with self control and shooting my boys, but it's never stopped me from doing anything else in life. Admit responsibility loser
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>>35137773
What the hell is this guy talking bout??
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noporn really helps
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>>35137789
dunno i couldn't figure it out
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>>35124952
>2015
>Taking the opinions of experts as an indelible observation of objective reality.
ISHYGDDT
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