redpill me on the press
>>35050425
the press it the best
>participating in the over the head jew of gains
>making it
pick one
I do it about once a week
>>35050425
I derive my press motivation from the idea of lifting girls in the club
>>35050425
Don't do it. It compresses your spinal column which then results in herniated disks and early arthritis
>>35050425
It's controlled by the government.
>>35050425
It's probably my favorite lift, even before bench. There's just something really satisfying about pressing super heavy weight.
>>35050487
I derive it from the fact that I'm not shaped like an hourglass anymore
>twothousandandfifteen
>choosing the press over barbell delt flies
keep up with the times pham
It's a meme lift, just like deadlifts, performed by fat powerlifters who circlejerk about their numbers.
Stick to dumbbell shoulder press.
>>35050425
>2016
>not using dumbbells and correct form
>>35050425
it's all front delts/triceps
a little bit of clavicular chest/side delt
doesn't agitate my shoulders as much as flat bench does
people always think it's he best thing ever or shoulder size
it isn't, but it'still one of my favorie lifts
coming from someonne who ohps 180x5
>>35050506
>not using both
>>35050500
>50 50 500
The cops are on their way confirmed
>>35050521
>powerlifters
>ohp
u srs brah
>>35050532
it's hard to progress with barbell (even with microloading)
let alone with dumbbells where you have to jump by 10lbs
>>35050532
>started dumbbell pressing
>shoulder aches and constantly cracks now
>>35050555
how much weight do you use that you need to jump 10lbs?
besides, you can always try to push progress by starting the workout with heavy weights/low reps (after a warmup of course). just be patient.
>>35050568
bad form
You need to constrict your muscles and make yourself more tight
should aches and pains can be from not being in control while lifting
It's like if you did a deep squat without tensing your gloots and tightening your core
>>35050494
Can anyone confirm this guy isn't brosciencing me? Sounds spooky man.
>>35050521
Pic of your arms next to a pencil please
>>35050555
You progress with dumbbells by adding reps, and using low reps when starting a higher weight.
That, or just get Olympic dumbbells and microload them.
>>35050568
You might have fucked something up m8.
Go through you shoulder range of motion, and see where it hurts.
Take a few days off and focus on rotator work with some light pressing for a while. Also, facepulls.
>>35050587
dumbbells usually go in increments of 5lbs
so that's 10 lbs more when you want to increase the weight
>>35050506
>barbell delt flies
>barbell
hm?
>>35050615
I thought barbell flies were just a meme, but I actually saw someone using ezcurl bars to do flys a couple weeks ago.
>>35050600
You first
>>35050598
are you ohp-ing 800lbs or something? just think about what the fuck he's saying and what kind of weight we're talking about. your delicate shoulder muscles and ligaments are much more at risk there.
>>35050598
He is correct once you start getting a bit heavy and if your form slips up a bit.
Once you start pressing 1 plate you are at risk. Your L5 S1 disk is at the highest risk of being herniated.
Medfag here
>>35050699
I'm overhead pressing 300lbs and I don't have a single problem. What is wrong with you people?!
>>35050699
> Your L5 S1 disk is at the highest risk of being herniated.
lower back? from 1 pl8 pressure? seriously?
you need to try to think sometimes, bro.
>>35050716
These don't happen instantly. It happens overtime.
Picture a car running on rims.
That is your spine when you OHP
Very common weight lifting injury right after squatting when I did my neurosurgery internship.
>>35050521
Every lift is a meme invented relatively recently. Go bale some hay or become a longshoreman with your meme lift talk.
>>35050425
Overhead press SAVED ME from a falling shelf.
>>35050730
I'm not saying I don't believe you
I'm saying I don't want to believe you
>>35050699
>Once you start pressing 1 plate
>1 plate
shut the fuck up
>>35050722
Its the most vulnerable disk and is first to be injured especially when it's at the base doing all of the supporting
>>35050770
but there's not much to support when you do ohp. as somebody who actually lifts I can tell you that almost everything else we do with a barbell involves much heavier weights.
>>35050699
All you have to do is wear a lifting belt to restrict you from doing an excessive arch.
>>35050425
>tfw it's currently my fastest growing lift
>>35050770
That's why you bend the knees, dumbass medic
>>35050853
>tfw been lifting for 4-ish years, but have the gains of someone going for 6 months and can still only OHP the barbell with 10 lbs on each side.
This is hell.
>>35050880
If you haven't stopped during these 4 years eat more and switch routines for one with more intensity, drop SS if you're on it, at this point your body's used to the intensity you give it.
>>35050770
ofc if you go too heavy and do standing incline bench
and what about squats and deads?
by your thinking anybody who squats should have completely rekt back when they get to 400+ squat
lol
>>35050880
How? There is no way you should be that weak on this lift
>>35050890
if he's on ss for 4 years he's fallen for the meme hard
>>35050926
I know someone like that, it's been 2 years and no progress. It's pretty sad.
>>35050880
Ss has too many rest days. You only need one per week if any at all. Resting after every day is for people slaying their bodies all over at once. At that weight you are slaying zilch.
>>35050890
>>35050926
>>35050937
>>35050951
That guy here.
If I'm being perfectly honest, my first 2.5 years were plagued with fuck around-itis. I used to do SS but switch to PPL in the last year are so, and my other lifts are better than when I started except for OHP.
>>35050993
Also, flat bench hurts my shoulder no matter what I do. Asked my parents and they said that our family has a history of shoulder problems anyway.
Am I gonna make it bros?
>>35051002
don't do flat bench, you need to arch your back. Watch this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33mjoyc5JbE
>>35050951
most things you do affect joints like the shoulder, whether it's a shoulder workout or hands or chest or even core and legs
there's just not enough time to recover, especially if you're new and not very understanding of the importance of using good form
>>35051002
Switch to dumbells, turn them in on a 45 deg angle
>>35051013
Well not like FLAT flat bench, I mean regular bench press. Thanks for the video tho, maybe it'll help.
>>35050993
Only help I could give is the overhead workshop I just redid, it's 12 pages of pressing help lol.
But still, 65lb barbell overhead I'd crazy low
>>35050951
I can't imagine only having one day off a week,I need at least 2 and currently have 3-4 :/
>>35051067
>But still, 65lb barbell overhead I'd crazy low
I know ;-;
Are there any assistance exercises that would help? Like shoulder flys, or anything like that?
>>35051002
Try the reverse grip bench press
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clBGsv573K4
>>35051088
https://mega.nz/#!3N8UGZ4B!29xjz2dko3Qy82pH6MJAxNeoCHavd8Ve5CeM-V9VYIw
>>35051090
>this
Also, floor press.
Make sure that you work your rotator cuffs twice a week, or as part of a shoulder warm up before OHP.
Find some way to superset in facepulls too, for proper shoulder health and a nice shoulder pump.
I have hypermobile shoulders and a torn labrum. Lots of back, rear delt and rotator work has helped me a lot.
>>35051122
>rear delt
does anyone find it hard to make progress in that one?
>>35051147
It's a tiny muscle, and you don't use it that much.
You also don't really use it in any real life situations, but it's important for shoulder health for people with shoulder/back issues.
Rear delt flys are pretty good, but they are a pain with any respectable weight. Prepare to use 5-10lbs DBs for them until you have great rear delt development.
>>35051067
I am counting backpacking and stationary bike with abs as working days.
Staying active helps me recover a lot better than laying around. I don't know what to do with myself if I can't tire myself out a bit.
>>35050494
No this guy is wrong.
Shrug at the top of the lift and the pressure goes from your spine to your traps.
>>35050494
Squeeze glutes stops arching back
>>35051002
First, always keep a narrow grip. This is way easier on the shoulder ligaments.
Second, try out a reverse grip. This is extremely Dangerous because it is easy for the bar to get out of its path and fall on Your face and kill you. So never do this without a rack to stop the bar from falling on you.
If this doesen't work, you should probably cut out the exercise completely. When you lie on the bench it restricts Your shoulder blade movement which can cause a lot of problems. I dont do bench press anymore because I cannot do it without destroying my shoulders and elbows, even though it was my strongest lift. If I cannot do a lift safely it will just lead to injury and no gains land eventually.
>>35050951
Eastern Europeans follow a M W F strength program for Olympic weightlifting. T TH S is to focus on technique where they won't go over 70% of their ORM. Yet those fucks ATG squat 600+ pounds
>>35051608
And lastly, try you round Your upper back at the bottom. By that I mean look at the bar when it touches Your chest, so that Your upper back is slightly rounded. This puts the shoulders at a less stretched and safer position at the bottom. This helped me extremely much. But I had to cut out the lift anway, im just not cut out for it.
>>35050951
Lies, the amount of rest you need Depends on how you Train. If you Train like a bodybuilder and go all out in a session you will need several days to recover fully and have the same strength the next session. If you Train every day you cant go full intensity and keep lifting the same weights, unless you are a freak.
>>35051101
tnx
even though my ohp is now at 185 and climbing slowly (but steady)
good read anyways
>>35050904
>standing incline bench
i want to believe
>>35051658
glad you liked it. It's everyrhing I did to get my 30lb log clean and press and everything I'll be doing to get 400
>>35051101
Thanks a lot man made my night. I'm on week 4 of SL and I'm struggling with OHP. Gonna add some of these as accessories to the workout. Would you rec doing some on my recovery days as well?
>>35051870
recovery days should be for gpp (Sled pulls, prowler work, stair climber, bdsm sessions) Just add to normal workouts and you should be fine. Glad you liked it, made making worth it
best strength gains out there
you want size gains you're gonna need to supplement with isolations that hit your front, side and rear delts.
You should actually hit your rear delts to avoid imbalance and tearing the muscle if nothing else, which OHP will not do
>>35050425
Don't do this shit, OP. It will compress your spine and turn you into a manlet
>>35050504
it looks hardcore as fuck to do this
Too bad its my weakest lift
just read that chapter in starting strength
it's largely unnecessary in a proper routine and is dangerous for many people
>>35055292
It builds traps, shoulders, triceps, upper back, core and stabiliy. But yeah its not necessary in a "proper" routine. yeah Tottaly
>>35053769
fact.
>>35051802
that's just the overhead press except you lean backwards a lot.
not to be saluted
>>35050425
That pic has shitty forearm placement
>>35050494
or you could do hangs and mobility work for the spine to compensate
in fact, not to compensate - everyone should be doing this daily anyway
>>35050699
>medfag here
ah, the most skeptical people on that planet. a lifetime of studying injury must induce this kind of paranoia.
stop being so unrealistic. most people who press 1 plate are fine. only a fraction of those pressing 1 plate will ever be injured by it and even then, probably by using shitty form or not doing any mobility work or warm ups.
advice for people new to lifting - ask doctors, physio therapists etc for advice on injury, but for realistic information, scale their advice down by half.
>>35050993
i struggle with my OHP too. i used to OHP once a week followed by some dumbbell stuff and get frustrated by my lack of progress.
now i OHP twice a week and after each time, i do either seated DB OHP or seated barbell OHP. my gains on it have never been better. i can press 150lbs now, which is nothing special but it;s not bad.
in fact, every time i have upped the frequency of some lift, that lift has increased well. its just general good advice i think - all heavy compounds twice per week, except deadlifts maybe.
>>35050699
Doctors always have the most ridiculous ideas about training. I would like just for once to meet a metfag who wasn't completely fucking retarded on the subject.
Do you realize the amount of forces our bodies have to absorb simply from running? And you mean to tell me that a measly 60 kg overhead press is "risky"?
Do you also not understand that a person who lifts 60 kgs overhead has in fact adapted to doing this? Not only his muscles but his passive structures as well.
>Medfag here
And why do you always have to point out that you study medicine when its relevance to lifting is almost non-existant?
Guys I don't know what to do. I like the press but I've been reading all these articles that the press will fuck your shoulders and everything even if you do it right. The only shoulder exercise people seem to like are bent over raises for rear delts. Everything else just seems to kill you. I just want nice shoulders.
>>35057036
I can side lateral raise 50s for reps and cleam and press 300lb. I have zero shoulder problems. I also recommend a ton of mobility
