What's so good about deadlifts?
Should I try them?
>what's so good about deadlifts?
Nothing. They're a vanity meme exercise that is awful for building muscle and will damage your back. Only do them if you enjoy calling upon your body to unleash lethal amounts of force as one kinetic chain.
>>35041298
>kinetic chain
lmao
Deads if done properly strengthen the shit out of your back
You obviously have poor form or were out lifted by a girl
>>35041298
Cum on senpai.
>>35041298
What do they do for aesthetics tho?
Zyzz reccomends em
>>35041288
I tried deadlifts like this today and the grip bit scrapes the shit out of my legs. Are long socks a necessity for sumo?
>>35041288
Only if you do them overhead.
>>35041288
Assuming this isn't bait, deadlifts are great for a lot of major muscle groups. You could do a variety of exercises and get the same effect, but the idea is it's best to do one compound exercise and then go to the isolation ones after. Also, you can do a lot of weight and make you feel manly as fuck.
>>35041288
It works your back, hips, and legs a lot.
And you can lift massive amounts of weight.
Plus they're fun.
>>35041601
Ripped core
>>35041298
this
they are a meme lift. plus you find that you lose control of your bowels
>>35041703
>Plus they're fun.
This bit of truth right here is a factor that is overlooked all too often. It is absolutely crucial that your training is fun to you, otherwise you'll end up quitting sooner rather that later. You must learn to enjoy the journey as much as the destination (or even moreso), and in order to do that, training must be fun. Simple as that.
>>35041612
I'm going to get a pair for them senpai
They're a good lift, but fucking sumo stance just means you're ego lifting. Fucking do normal feet width, I.e similar to a clean stance, and hook grip it. Christ, bugs me so much when people do shit to put the most weight on instead of actually trying to work on their strength the correct way. Maybe if you were competition tier in the big three, then it's okay, but if not then cut that shit out.
>>35041288
>2pl8
>sumo
>dyel faggot
Pick 3
on their own they are kinda useless but they strengthen muscles which help squats, rows, OHP and many other lifts.
>>35041826
My back is always in pain when I do conventional lift, even though when I lift 1pl8 and focusing on form, as I usually do 3pl8s. So I switched to sumo and my back is fine.
>>35041826
if you have long ass legs sumo is better/safer
>>35041298
Deadlifts are great for back strength and etc.
They feel great. Pulling heavy fucking weight is a great feeling.
As to the aesthetics point, that depends on genetics.
>>35041826
>>35041892
This. I'm 6'2 and have ridiculously long femurs. Sumo squats and deads are literally the only way to go for me.
>>35041826
Spotted the manlet. Unless you have gorilla proportions conventional is pain in the ass for anyone taller than 180cm.
>>35042454
you're a fucking idiot
>>35041601
Probably nothing.
So far i have seen people claim that big erectors, traps, core, ass and legs are unaesthetic and those are the main muscles involved.
The claim that deadlifting doesn't build mass is a lie, it just builds it in places most people don't care about.
My advice would be to stick to training the muscles you can see in amirror.
The headspin you get when you start hitting 80% of your 1rm.
Just do it
>>35042454
I'm 187cm and I pulled 4x190 conventional. Please reconsider your answer.
>>35041288
Dunno lol. I'm still working on getting my squat weight up so I would feel confident even trying a dead lift.
beginner here training in home gym. I dont have much weights and therefore can not do any useful deadlift training. what exercises can I do that carry over to the deadlift so I dont suck too much when I actually try it?
>>35042683
Squats. More squats. Burpees. Jumping Jacks. More squats.
Yeah you have to do a lot of squats since you can't do weighted squats.
>>35042683
Hyper extensions, if you can find somewhere where you can lock your feet in a few feet above ground.
Dumbbell good mornings, if you have DBs.
You could do them with two equally loaded buckets while standing on a box or something.
Buckets are great, you can do pretty much any exercise that you can do with kettle bells, with a loaded bucket.
>>35041288
I work as a personal trainer and love these questions
>What's so good about deadlifts?
Its the best full body exercise and involves virtually every muscle
It teaches proper lifting form for all things (no more bending down with your back) assuming you do them properly
it is the king of all the lifts
>Should I try them?
without a doubt, I even have a 70yo woman doing them (not heavy before anyone asks anything stupid)
>>35042786
A personal trainer that doesn't seem like a scumbag at first thought?
>>35041288
Who the fuck deadlifts like that? I swear PTs are fucking shit
>>35042796
No idea, but it looks like a legitimate variation.
Why it's only 2pl8 I don't know.
>>35042843
I hate how PTs depict themselves to get customers
Pic related
>>35042859
kek
>>35042796
It's called a sumo deadlift
how new are you
>>35042892
>Running shoes
>Grip too narrow, doesnt utlilize his leverages
>2pl8
How new is he, is a better question
>>35042632
7/10 troel
What do deadlifts hit that you don't already hit with squats though?
>the deadlift is a back and not a hamstring exercise
>>35041298
this, it actually is a meme exercise
i never understand why people do deadlifts, fucking best way to ruin your back, even with 'proper form'
>>35043057
Your back. Unless you're doing retarded squatmornings to kill two birds with one stone (and your spine)
>>35042115
Youre trying too hard to sound smart
>>35043057
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/ErectorSpinae/BBDeadlift.html
http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBFullSquat.html
>>35043080
>fucking best way to ruin your back, even with 'proper form'
its funny, because i had a fucked back, and fixed it by doing mostly deadlifts.
literally the best thing you can do for your lower back is deadlifts.
just start with babby weight until you know 100% your form is on point every single time, then slowly increase the weight to develop strength.
but there is no better exercise for someone with a bad back to do, than deadlifts.
obviously just don't slap 2pl8 on the bar and start pulling like you know what you are doing
http://www.muscleforlife.com/the-deadlift-and-your-lower-back-harmful-or-helpful/
this link actually cites a few scientific articles, if you are skeptical.
deadlift is the BEST lower-back pre-hab and rehab exercise you can do for yourself
>>35043077
it works the whole posterior chain, but with proper form, you can expect much more hypertrophy on your back than your hammies.
>>35043226
http://tonygentilcore.com/2010/11/deadlifts-are-one-of-the-worst-things-you-can-do-for-your-spine/
this article is breddy gud too
>>35043226
>i had a fucked back, and fixed it by doing mostly deadlifts.
Same here. Had a herniated disc and deadlifts fixed it. But proper form is crucial.
>>35043236
compelling rebuttal, anon.
but those muscles pulling your shoulder blades back, with hundreds upon hundreds of pounds of resistance?
they aren't immune to hypertrophy.
>>35043245
its not like what you said makes any better an argument
never said theyre immune, but hamstrings are what actually lift the weight alongside with traps. sure the back will grow too but i see no reason why it would grow more than hamstrings
>>35043258
alongside with glutes*
>>35041288
I do them for them traps, plus they're fun to do
>>35043080
>even with 'proper form'
protip: if you feel it in your back during or after DLs you're not using proper form.
If using proper form you'll feel it on your hamstrings.
>>35043330
Not lifting heavy enough, I see. After you hit 4plate for reps, it hurts mostly everywhere.
How can I do dead lifts on one of these? What are they called? If possible, any videos of people doing dead lofts on one of them?
>>35043330
yes the muscles in your back should be completely flaccid during the deadlift and your spine should stay properly aligned through the power of christ, praise him
>>35043354
Its a Smith machine. Stand on plates and subtract 30lbs from your assumed weight. These are called I can't afford a real gym deadlifts
Squats and deadlifts are dangerous meme lifts designed to make you into a fat t-rex loser. Avoid them whenever possible.
>>35043372
Thanks a lot anon. I found thishttps://youtu.be/rtYH-SKh0to is it right?
>>35043080
>>35041298
>>35041727
Troll or not, get the fuck out and never come back, you worthless piles of shit.
>>35043330
nah brah. Pretty sure your entire posterior chain has to work really hard during a dead lift. You have to use to back muscles to hold you back in a neutral position. I think its natural to have a stiff back after
>>35043402
>essentially rackpulling 315
>DYEL faggot
I want to get back into deadlifting again but the plates at my new gym aren't as big as my old gyms plates.
The bar only comes up to just above where the foot connects to the ankle, this makes it pretty difficult for me to keep my back straight.
I've tried placing plates underneath on both sides but it doesn't help since it constantly rolls off and adding/subtracting weights is a huge pain.
The power rack is only half of one so I'm unable to put the safeties low enough to fix the height issue.
Do I eat a spoonful of concrete to harden the fuck up or do you guys know of any ways to raise that bar a little more?
>>35043226
>>35043244
I'll also support this. All the men in my family have back issues. Deadlifting began to help it literally the day after I first started them.
>>35043057
The entire back, forearms.
>>35043186
>using exrx as a source
Keking desu.
>>35044874
Find a new gym if the weights are literally 4 inches in height.
>Be prince of manlets 5'7
>Still bang my shins like I'm 6'5
>Even with baby weight end up straining my back because I suck at deadlifts
>Switch to sumo
>Gains, success, and no back pain
>Much easier transition into correct standard deadlifts when I got strong enough
It's fine as long as you don't brag about your 3pl8 pull when the guys with standard form are only doing 2
ITT dyel faggots complaining about hoe bad deadlift is because they struggle to get their form right
>>35041763
I replaced ohp with clean and press because it's more fun. Literally nothing wrong with enjoying yourself
>>35042427
I'm 6'2" and sumo is much harder for me. I think it's more a matter of quad vs hamstring dominance. My deadlift is proportionally stronger than my squat so makes sense
>>35042859
Crappy form in that pic imho, guy is squatting it- needs his hips higher
>>35043083
>squatmornings - underrated post here
I just reached 2 plates yesterday, I was so proud.
Keep in my that I'm a skinny nerd.
Deadlifts are great, beside I just own a barbell and a pull-up bar.
>>35046804
That's a sumo deadlift, he should be sitting lower, and his back should be straighter.
>>35043372
What do you mean subtracting 30lbs? What for?
>>35043105
>Youre
Okay m8.
>>35044969
What isn't great about exrx?
>>35041612
your problem is lifting sumo fagget. pull conventional
I do conventional deadlifts on my power days, then alternate stiff legged and RDL's for hypertophey, deads have given me a lot of strength in the back, hams and glutes
I can't figure out how to properly do desulofts. I feel like my legs are longer than the rest of me and not matter how I adjust my form, it still looks like my knees lock out way before my hips.
>>35043362
>not praying to Allah for them explosive lifts
>>35045062
I literally did the same thing today. Power clean + press. It's fun.
I only have to figure out a way to improve the wrist-forearm alignment during the press.
>>35048002
>what isn't great about a turd?
I used to pull conventional but I realised that since I'm not gonna compete in memelifting the chance of snaping my shit for no reason wasn't worth it, so now I do SLDL and RDL on variation days and it's been great.
Just do what suits your goals, not what a bunch of faggots tells you to do because of MUH DIDDLIY
>>35048595
RDL's are great, and should generally be used instead of deadlifts for people not competing. Works your hamstrings and lower back with a much lower chance of snapping your shit up.
Deadlifts are good but some people either lack the hamstring flexibility or the proportions to do them correctly. If the former, do lots of stretching and stiff legged deadlifts. If the latter, make them a rack pull by lifting off blocks.
Also, you don't need deadlifts if you can do high enough weight/reps of alternatives like romanian deads.
>>35042786
Thanks man
>>35048422
I find it helps to grip the bar as tight as possible. Actually in deadlifts and bench too. If you make a really tight fist, even without a bar your wrist tightens up and should be perfectly straight
>>35043083
kek
>>35041827
hes also doing sumo with really shitty form lmao
I love how convetional fags have such a sense of superiority when they do such a mechanically inferior lift thats main point is ripping it up as fast as possible where sumo is actually a technical lift with advantageous leverages
>>35047407
>>35046804
are you both retarded thats snatch grip DL
>>35048326
sounds like you have too long of legs to properly pull conventional and would benefit from pulling sumo
>>35042454. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xCXh02LBYJs 6'4 and convential deadlifts 700
>>35051143
he also has really short femurs and a LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG fucking torso
if you werent a retard you would actually know how proportions play into deadlifting
>>35051160
>>35051143
oh nevermind I thought that was the vid of garrett
>>35043354
do not deadlift in a smith machine
don't do anything in a smith machine
Just do back Extensions instead, much safer. Deadlifts are a very high risk lift for Your spine.
>Deadlifts are bad
>Basically a perfect model for how to pick heavy shit up off the ground
>You'll hurt yourself!
Then don't go heavier than you can handle.
>>35043226
Fuckin' a. I have had upper back issues with posture and uncomfortable seating (6'4"), but my lower back has never felt so strong and aligned before and I've been 4pl8'ing for a couple months now.
Due to the fact that it activates more muscle groups than any other lift, it also releases a large amount of testosterone, which makes you feel like a boss.
Do dl right with good form and it's simply the best thing you can do for yourself.
People like deads because you can use a lot of weight on it and satisfy Your ego.
It Trains mainly Your erectors and traps. It can be replaced easily With other safer lifts that will get the same job done. No specific lift is required in order to hypertrophy Your muscles.
>>35051273
>It Trains mainly Your erectors and traps.
>>35051276
>mainly
Yeah. Even Andy Bolton, world record holder in deadlifts says it is mainly a back exercise With some leg involvment.
>>35041298
Riiight
>>35051034
>leverages
>relying on leverage instead of actually being strong
Pls
>>35042454
If this were the case sumo would be a lot more common then it is. It's a faggoty hipster version of a real lift.
>>35045022
>5'7
>banging shins
WHAT. ARE. YOU. DOING?
>>35051776
Its funny, because in powerlifting you can practically determine off the bat whether someone is short or tall (or realistically, whether they're light or heavy, because weight classes are just height classes in disguise) by their preferred deadlift style. Sumo dominates the lighter weight classes, but it gets rarer and rarer the higher up you go.
In raw competition at least. Geared is a different matter.
>>35042454
194cm here, pull 5pl8 like chump change. Urine idiot
>>35047978
Is that the only thing you can say because you know im right?
>>35052132
That's all I really care to say m8.
>>35051233
If you haven't taken the time to look at and practice proper diddly form, they can be.
Hyper extensions are good in their own right though.
I like to do them as a superset with core work.
>>35051242
>testosterone
Please stop this meme
>>35041288
>Had a weak and painful lower back for as long as I can remember
>start lifting and doing deads
>never had a problem with my back again after the 3rd month
Don't be talkin' shit about the dead, faggot
My right hamstring hurts after doing stiffed legged deadlifts. Could this be because my hamstring are too stiff?
>>35042115
No, pulling heavy fucking weight is NOT a great feeling.
Fuck off, I feel like death when I pull 300kg, fuck anything above 180kg feels like death, I fucking hate it.
Squats feel shitty at times too. The one thing I always feel good with is OHP and bench. Now, benching 175kg is fun.
Mind you, I have no issues ripping things off the floor anymore, I can even deadlift cars (small ones) now, which is neat
>>35052779
the only kind of people that say pulling something heavy is fun are faggot DYELS that deadlift 140kg at most.
Any gains you get is fun, when you're at my level or above, everything is slow as shit and hurts.
>>35048394
Kek
>>35052779
Why diddly lift if you don't like it?
Do you compete in powerlifting, strongman or something?
>>35041601
Recommend*
>>35047845
Smith machine bar usually weighs 15 pounds, as opposed to 45.
>>35042454
>Unless you have gorilla proportions conventional is pain in the ass for anyone taller than 180cm
>>35052867
powerlifting, bruh
>>35053684
fucking sickening gif you faggot
>>35042892
that isnt even a sumo deadlift. its...something wrong.
you dont deadlift with hands on inner knurling ever you peasant farmer
>>35054043
>you dont deadlift with hands on inner knurling ever you peasant farmer
you do if you're doing a one-handed deadlift
>>35041763
So much wisdom anon, you have a non-autism view on life. I like you
>>35051765
ok mr 3pl8 1RM @ 205 BW
>>35051776
>It's a faggoty hipster version of a real lift.
how to spot a 3pl8 1rm deadlifter
>>35042683
Good mornings, Romanian dead lifts, either of those exercises one-legged. Lunges. Jumping around (vertical leap especially). Farmers walk. Anything that hits your back, hammies, ass, and grip. General leg work.
>>35041343
Smh senpai you a fucking idiot m8
>>35054310
>>35054316
What do ya know, a trip with zero good advice and just shit posts. Unless you really just cannot pull conventional because of physiological issues, sumo pulling is literally to boost your ego by slamming more weight on. Less ROM, doesn't engage muscles as long, and often time it's people with trash form doing it. If conventional hurts, then most likely its your shit form, you don't just fucking switch to a style with more leverage to escape the fact you're doing it wrong. And also, judging how you keep bringing up numbers, it directly implies that you're the memelord who'll fucking cat back a pull just to say he did xxx weight; this can transfer over to you being a goddamn moron.
>>35043354
They are called fag lifts
>>35041612
>what are pants
Dont wear long socks annon. Thats so >>35041615
reddit.
>>35053428
underrated post
>>35041288
dyel?
Random question.. I still don't think I've figured out the deadlift on the whole. I'm not even doing 2pl8s and I feel like the bar is slipping out of my hand every second I hold it. After a couple reps it gets to the point where I almost drop it.
>>35041612
I do deads on legs day and since I have dad knees I swear knee sleeves. So when I dead I pull the sleeves to my shins and use them as guards.
SBDs are literally bullet proof
>mfw my lower back feels really tight and sore everytime i dead lift
is this ok?
>>35057125
Happens to me too, pretty sure it's fine as long as it's not legitmate pain
>>35057062
Use chalk. Or mix grip. Or hook grip.
>>35041288
Do them op they are fun
>tfw today is my birthday and people forgot to say happy birthday
>tfw pissed off and go deadlift
>tfw grinded out 455 for a new pr for my 20th birthday
>at least the weights won't forget
>>35042632
>>35057125
>weight loss is literally so easy a retard can do it
Landwhales confirmed for stupider than retards.
Is it ok to do these with a trap bar instead? I've done them with conventially but I'm worried about my form.
>>35054855
just imagine people unironically believe this
hows your first year of lifting been treating you
>doing backsnaps
>>35054855
>doesn't engage muscles as long
thank you dr broscience, you will often have longer time under tension because of the difficulty of breaking off the floor before the quick lockout
> and often time it's people with trash form doing it
this is quite literally the opposite of the truth cause conventional is much easier to round over on
>switch to a style with more leverage
this completely depends on your body proportions
>memelord who'll fucking cat back a pull just to say he did xxx weight
fraid not son, last PR was 200 at 69BW obviously there was some form degredation being as it was a max effort pull but the lumbar rounding was minimal with t spine rounding but that doesnt really hurt you, just makes it look ugly
go ahead bud post your perfect form 100% ROM IRYNLYFE deadlift max and throw your lifts in the ring there
>>35054855
just in referance heres the pull at the highest point of rounding even then my lumbar is not too rounded over and im not crumpling over too badly at the waist, t spine rounding is pretty significant but again its not gonna hurt you really
>>35058002
literally forgot pic
>>35041343
>>35041298
>Kinetic chain
Can someone explain why this broscience sounds legit? It feels natural to assume more muscles used = more power generated
>>35057865
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