/OWG/ - A thread for the discussion of weightlifting and all things related. Keep the insults and shitposting to a minimum.
>Mobility Edition
>If you are new to weightlifting please read these first and check the other sources they link to before asking questions:
http://pastebin.com/1HgVcGam
http://pastebin.com/wCXeXfkk
http://www.chinfl.blogspotco.uk/2013/07/how-into-weightlifting.html
http://www.reddit.com/r/weightlifting/wiki/faq
http://www.iwf.net/doc/technical.pdf
http://yashathoughts.com/
>The information that you are looking for is probably in the above links.
That includes routines, shoes, information on the lifts, etc. Check out the pastebins for literature or the reddit faq for general information.
Included in this youtube playlist are videos related to weightlifting which you may find useful or insightful:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl3WCm2GfvLxvH877oJ1xEA/playlists
Red Lights
>>35038372
Obligatory
from last thread:
How much will peaking for this comp affect peaking for Rio? Grand Prix is over, so after Worlds the next real test will be the olympics, but it's more than half a year away. Yet a couple people have said that preparing for this would throw off some lifters next olympics if they could instead spend the peaking cycle doing more training. Which makes sense, but why pass up a shot at a medal?
>>35041227
i think ilya mentioned that it was a 18 month process?
>>35041261
that seems kind of absurd
>>35041267
i dont know how much peaking for a comp does affect your training at that level, i think the biggest issue is probably the disruption and stress
>>35041267
>that seems kind of absurd
i've talked to a couple people who have trained to go to the olympics and what they go through is absurd
What's with weightlifters and sunken in eyes?
>>35041399
Hooded eyes are a sign of high test
>>35041415
>>35041220
what was your favorite mattie moment tonight?
A few questions i forgot to ask earlier
>1) stretching upper body
So I have yet to find anything that comes as close to stretching out my wrists, biceps and to a lesser extent pecs / delts thatn holding the barbell over head and internally rotating, pulling scapula back and pinning my traps to my ears.
that shit buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrnnnnns and i still have a long time to go until I exhuast getting more stretch out of that. But it requires a barbell. what can i do to either imitate or replace this in my spare timre at home?
>tfwno broomstick
>2) calves
when i highbar squat and some times front squat, going super deep with weight and then getting up, my calves are fine until a few seconds of having the pressure takern off of them, and then they start hurting like fucking mad, feels like tendonitis, for a few seconds.
wtf is this and how do i stop it. ive had it forever, just never known how to fix it lol
also, starting position for snatch: is there a "Too wide"? thinking about what i struggled with i think it makes sense to point my legs out much more, but i'm unsure.
>Wake up
>find out tian tao bombed like lu
what happend lads, did rostami at least bomb too?
Did Lydia lift already?
Why does everyone here hate Jon North? The guys entertaining as fuck and stronger than us all anyway
what was the name of this one ukrainian (?) weightlifter that gets posted all the time? Boris something? I can't remember his name
I would guess 30-35 years of age
>>35041689
for wrists at least lad
>>35041399
>>35041689
>>35041689
shoulder dislocations with resistance band while in snatch catch position really helped with my shoulder mobility. even got rid of my recurring shoulder pains from an injury.
>>35042815
Would you say they are superior to the broomstick?
>>35042122
it's not boris. it's turkiye.
>>35042121
nobody here really hates the guy. hate is such as strong word, man. you have to know the person actually to hate him. many don't like his antics but not liking is not equal to hating.
>>35041267
The Olympic cycle is 4 years. You'd get a lot more out of 1-2 big training cycles than 3-4. It's like you can't compete as well if you go in a competition every month, except on a much more advanced, intricate level.
>>35042829
yes, for someone very inflexible. broomstick can be too stiff and unforgiving. resistance band allows you to do the full range of dislocation while providing enough resistance to stretch those tight muscles.
>>35041689
Pavel tsatsoline has a good PNF stretch for the shoulder girdle, you can do it your self but works better if you have someone to help.
Can't find a video but you take this position except with a lower counter/table (you'll be on your knees), then you push your palms onto the table top very hard which is going to cause your whole shoulder girdle to contract ( do this for 5 seconds) then take a deep breath in and relax and let your chest drop though and hold for 10-15 seconds. Repeat 6-8 times.
Have your hands fairly wide, inbetween a jerk/snatch grip to start.
You'll really benefit from getting someone to help you since you're a big guy.
>>35041689
Is the calf pain on the lateral aspect just infront of your soleus? If so it's probably your peroneus. I have the same problem coming out of a squat or a clean (so bad I can't squat sometime) I palpate to find the area that refers the pain myself then get my gf to dig her fingers in their and apply lots of pressure/massage the area. Keep it very localized though, hurts like a bitch, a lot better after.
Dry needling helped me a lot as well.
>>35042873
Forgot the pic
>>35041210
Will smolov-3/5/1-...-strength routines+should workouts like OHP, help me to archive this kind of body? I can't do weightlifting movements no gym or crossfit place for that near my house. :(
>>35041227
Meanwhile basically everyone who competed at 2014 Asians competed at 2014 Worlds six weeks later
>>35042952
No.
>>35042952
Squats, pulls and OH presses will help you achieve that body. That and copious amounts of drugs.
>>35042994
Athletes usually have smaller test comps a couple of months in advance up until major competitions.
>>35042995
>>35042999
RIP :(
>>35042952
Unless you're around 5'2 nothing will give you that physique outside of taking drugs (way more than him) for years.
Chinese weightlifters get their physiques mostly doing a shitload of weightlifting pulls every day for around ten years before we see them. They also do more assistance work than most other weightlifters. Lots of weighted dips, handstand pushups, tricep extensions, as well as static stuff like weighted planks.
To achieve that physique is a full time job. He lifts every day, often twice a day. He has world class coaches, access to massages and sauna every day, his food is high quality and free, his accommodation is free. He has basically no worries outside of his performance in the gym. And he's in that position because he came up through the youth system and consistently beat everyone else for the chance to be pampered on the national team.
So in short, no, a smolov 3/5/1 program will not get you that body.
>>35041689
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4fCotXM0nA
You get good at this, you'll be fine
>>35042829
Not that guy but Travis cooper talked about this on his podcast said that the bands were best for flexibility broom was good for testing and measuring where you were at
>>35043131
>Travis cooper
Sorry dude, but I dont trust american weightlifters.
Literally every top country has thier lifters do dislocations with a solid object like a pvc pipe or womans bar.
>>35043144
PVC is used because it isn't solid though and has a bit of flex
Top weightlifters don't have horrid mobility issues, the context was as a beginner bands are better. I'm not saying I agree just what I've heard. I use both and bands feel comfier to me, but I use the broom too.
>>35043151
A lot less flex than the bands.
It shouldn't have to flex at all
Is there a yt vid of the womens 69b?
Yes I wanna watch Mattie, sue me
>>35043168
If you're very imbalanced across the shoulders bands are good because overhead you might need a wider grip yet once it's down you back a closer grip. Not everyone is uniform in their mobility/lack thereof. Bands are good until those really bad spots catch up.
Remeber we were talking about norse who's horrendously immobile he should use whatever works best, be it a band or a broom
>>35043280
True, good point
>>35043280
Bands are good because they let your bad mobility do the exercise without snapping your shit up, but there's also the stretching tension pulling you into better positions. A solid dowel or whatever is either you can do it or you can't, plus you do bullshit like twisting your hands/fingers so you're barely holding it and not getting the stretch in the right place.
>>35043382
this
>>35043225
nothing wrong with a bit of
watching
>>35043472
I hate you fucking thirsty betas who push pretty girls who are dogshit into the limelight. WHo can take our country seriously when you do this.
>>35043537
>pretty girls who are dogshit
but mattie's set american records
>>35043560
>american records
And?
That record doesnt mean shit
Btn jerk pr last night laddos
159kg/350# btn jerk at 102kg bw
https://youtu.be/LNvh_gqisvc
Best way to increase my squat? Pls no tee em.
74kg bw, 3x5 100kg.
Is 5x3 or 3x3 viable for LP twice a week where I can add 4kg/5kg weekly?
>>35043596
Damn, you could do more than that too!
Good progress
>>35043573
yes it does, obviously. the united states competes in weightlifting, and sent the best 69kg girl they had to the world championships this year. you implied she's known for being pretty, rather than being among the best in america (which is, of course, what an american record holder would be). you can find dozens of pretty girls around the same bodyweight with far worse snatches. none of them were sent to wwc.
get over it fag
>>35043645
>literally one in every 50 million american woman take this seriously
>impressive
>>35043693
yes. impressive by american standards
>>35043693
She totaled more than lu and tian
>>35043721
>tfw tian snatched 20kg less than her total
>>35043721
At 14kg heavier and being a dude
>>35042912
why does this stretch feel so good bros?
look at this idiot
http://www.celebritytypes.com/faces/test.php
take the test and post final result
>>35043948
will britain send a chav to rio
>>35043948
>>35044012
Sonny is one of our best lifters but looks like a complete idiot with the baseball cap
>>35043948
lmao look at this retard
britain has like one lifter and he shows up like that
>>35044088
>gbr send 7 athletes altogether
>USA send 15
>same number in A groups (2)
USA won't even make a top ten either
USA btfo by chavs
>>35044204
Yes we know our country sucks
>>35042256
owwwwwwwwwwww
thnx
>>35042815
so use the band in place of the barbell? what size?
>>35043084
my front rack position actually isnt that bad, its my overhead position thats garbage
>>35042897
dont know off the top of my head. ill have to pay attention to it.
>>35042873
>>35042912
that looks like its going to be brutal... do you push down in the center of the upper back?
Tell me how Zhassulan does.
>>35044457
hes not lifting
>>35044380
>so use the band in place of the barbell? what size?
any size that allows you to move through the tighter spots but still provides good pressure. i use orange but i don't know if color-size of the bands are universal.
>shouting allahu akbar
are the world championships always this halal?
>>35044546
lu and tian should have shouted allau akbar too. suits them well as bombers.
>>35044555
medium kek
>>35044380
Start with a band stretched to your snatch width that you can do a full dislocation with
>>35044555
It would have been funny if you worded it better
>>35044546
Houston is pretty chill I hear, but I'm still mildly surprised that he didn't immediately get shot given that its Texas.
>>35044566
>>35044526
explain dislocation please?
>>35044591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Annb0cpxwzM
but instead of standing, do it while in your snatch catching position. helps not only with mobility but also balance. helps you find your ideal bottom position.
>>35044590
houston is a shithole and texas is just north mexico
>>35044591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kLLerhGOM4
Do them with a tshirt, or pipe, not a fucking elastic band
>>35044621
why nt a band?
>>35044613
>do it in catch position
sounds like a good idea. ty anon
>>35044722
Less effective in giving you a good stretch
Its going to be hard, like it should be, but just do it with a pipe or tshirt. Dont fucking baby step it, its a waste of time
>>35044753
this is what i have been doing.
any one else think i should step down to a band instead of keeping up with this?
>>35044768
>step down to a band
Fuck it, it's not my training, do what you want.
>>35044768
band. just because the chinese use shirt doesn't mean its better. they already have good mobility while yours suck. what if i tell you ilya ilyin uses bands?
https://youtu.be/ISrfkrL91WM?t=52
>>35044808
band is at 52 seconds.
>>35044768
Bands are good dont listen to this faggot
Grab band narrow, stretch to snatch grip. Keep snatch grip. Tension on band increases stretch. The opposite of what these fags think
what shoes is fleming wearing
>>35042114
pls dont bully tinteo
>>35044887
ones that aren't good enough apparently
>>35044887
Nike BTFOs
r.i.p. jared :(
that's it. torn something.
>>35044927
good
>>35045043
your a mean guy
>>35045051
fleming is a faggot
>>35045056
tell me about fleming
>>35044927
fleming tore something? what happened?
kendrick bombs again
>>35045056
this
>>35044892
fuck him
>>35045085
He made his opener.
>>35045073
Looked like a hamstring to me.
>>35045073
Stood up with the clean then dropped it and fell down holding his leg. Looked like the hammie.
>>35045087
why is he a fag
everyone pulling hammies yo
>>35044590
>i'm still mildly surprised that he didn't immediately get shot
Houston isn't Baltimore, Chicago or Atlanta. Not as many blacks, so you're safe from getting shot
>>35045108
Please, old white people are fucking terrified of Islam in America.
Get well Lydia
Jung is kill.
no
>>35045144
fucking gooks just can't into weightlifting
>loaders
>>35045133
what are you talking about
they cant even keep the spics out why would care about the one muzzie in the city
>>35045148
>he's never seen Best Korea lift
c'mon, man.
>>35045152
>they couldnt even keep the blacks out, why would they care about one japanese man?
>1941
>>35045133
Show me one instance of an old white person indiscriminately shooting some muzzie. And I'll show you 100 instances of black people murdering and robbing random people.
>>35045168
nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVmxpK9t_t0
Lu xiaojun interview
Lu says he was rushed and didn't even get to 180 in his warmup and took a 7 minute break because he thought he had time. Speculation was right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyRMEL2o6LE
Tian Tao injured his lower back on the 178kg snatch, and couldn't stay tight in the bottom position in the squat jerk.
much humility from both lifters. World class athletes.
Which steroids would be best for strength? test/tren/winny? What about halo and deca?
>>35045239
Let's hope they get better for Rio. I hope we get some new WRs.
>>35045239
>Speculation was right.
it wasnt speculation we were watching it live and saw it happen
but bruh they planned to bomb cj because rio 2016
>>35045254
I guess I'm not familiar enough with professional competition, but would they really?
Even in training, Lu doing 180 looked sort of slow, and it was discussed in one of the other threads.
>>35045269
Well it's common sense the both of them would not peak. Peaking takes a long ass time and they want to dominate Rio more than anything else.
Olympic gold medals /WRs > world championship gold medals
however rest assured if things went their way they would have dominated all the categories anyway even when they aren't peaked. They are just that much better than everyone else.
>>35045282
They didn't necessarily need to compete to peak, but even just put up some numbers.
If it was an unintentional bomb out on both accounts, that really is sad, but good they can stay humble.
>>35045239
what did yu jie say?
>>35045313
he is going to work on both of their clean and jerks and this will give them that much more drive to hit new world records at Rio.
>>35045306
Keep in mind Tian is only 21, and he's already dominating his weight class. He hit like a 168kg snatch last year? In November. And now he is hitting 178kg snatch like it's routine.
Absolute freak. I think he might be the one to hold all 3 world records soon enough.
>>35045327
>He hit like a 168kg snatch last year?
Something aint right
>>35045269
i was just memeing, there's a retard who actually believes they purposefully bombed out even when the interviews says otherwise
>>35045351
his personal best in Snatch was 170. Haha. Now it looks like he can hit 182+
Front row for 94A
First for kydyrbaev numbah wan
>>35045529
finally we get to the big guys
in my time 80kg was heavyweight!
>Kazakhstan and Belarus' opening numbers
Excited tbqh
lydia went to snap city so she isnt competing :(
semi decent music this time
>>35041210
if i open my mouf wider like lu do would i snatch more kgs
165 what is iran doing
>>35045529
where in the front row are you? stand up and start flailing your arms
>>35045601
Right of stage
>wrestling
Will tickets be available at the door or should I buy tickets online. I want to go tomorrow.
>>35045598
Will they try and win unironically on bodyweight?
>>35045667
Tickets are available at the door
>>35042836
could you be a tiny bit more specific which weightlifter you meant?
I don't even know if he's doing olympic weightlifting, but he gets posted A LOT, mostly webm. I think he stopped a few weeks ago?
(he is sooo hot god damnit)
thank you
>>35045707
are you a woman
>this is not a professional sport
this guy retarded as fuck
>>35045718
maybe, why does it matter
>>35045707
torokhtiy? are u a fag
>>35045725
it determines whether i help you or not
>despite grandma being 1/2 Polish, 1/2 Ukrainian, I will never have big beefy Slavic forearms
>>35045731
>>35045737
no i'm not a fag :(
whatever.
>>35045753
the younger zielinski is handsome as fuck, im not even gay wish i looked like that
https://youtu.be/AZJmHT_EJ6A
>>35045731
>>35045737
ok, i've found him, it's dmitry klokov <3
>>35045756
>>35045780
i knew it
you're a tranny
RIP china
>>35045677
Are you eating? WHat color shirt
Haven't seen an Asian bombing like this since WWII
>>35045798
I'm in red behind two camera guys
BOMBED IT
>china on suicide watch
>>35045812
how fucking big is liu hao he looks big without shirt on
gg, china yu jie gonna get executed for sure when they get back home
>>35045807
>>35045788
no, i'm actually just interested in weightliftig.
you are a jerk
>>35045833
Like Winne the pooh ate clen and tren'd hard
His femurs are like a foot long
>>35045851
no. you have been exposed
only trannies answer "are you a woman" with a maybe
>>35045857
why does the russian grip the bar so weirdly jesus
>lok at that chest
american weightlifters stupid and vain
no wonder they worship klokov
>>35045888
no. only crossfitters and plg adore him
>>35045903
no only hipster fags like urself dont like him
>>35045874
thats not true. It's more because i don't want to be the ´heeyyy guuuuyz im a womyn give me stuff and answer´ -type.
Also i think trans people wouldn't like to be a maybe. Anyway i got what i want, be well you faggot
>>35045857
pls tell me you touched some lifters
>>35045918
post timestamp pics of yourself you trannie
>>35045918
4chan trannies like to be "maybe"
you are obviously new
>>35041210
how much will smoking cigs limit my progress? u usually smoke 1.5packs/week
>>35045957
a lot of lifters smoke a lot, lu/liao naim and others they also drink as well
>>35042121
According to owg he's a better weightliftwr than lu. Because doesn't squat nearly as much as lu but he almost snatches the same.
>watch iwf yesterday
>mirin hard
>youtube guides on oly lifts
>try it out today
>fail abysmally
I've been working out for 4 months, and my squat is 225 reps, dead near 290lb. For the clean, I can get 135 up. I'm still a skele and have major issues with flexibility. My arms/shoulders can't rotate enough.
>can't rack bar for front squat on shoulder at all
>fall forward when attempting to stand up with snatch/overhead squat
Is there anything you guys recommend? For the racking problem I'll probably start doing front squats, but I'd still appreciate some help.
>>35045928
I wished okulov good luck in the elevator before he won gold
>>35045982
Don't be mad that you have horrible ratios and we make fun of you for it lad
>>35045998
did you say goodluck to anyone today, maybe he win gold because of u bb :DD
just put on a trip and start giving out advice/critique olympic medalists
>>35046072
>everyone is perfect and you arent allowed to critique anyone
>>35046009
I shouldn't tell you guys how much I squat anymore.
>>35046102
Yeah he;s right, your ratios are terrible.
FIx your fucking form
>>35046072
anytime man. anytime :)
"jocelyn kydrbaev"
lmao
simple q lads:
http://strawpoll.me/6108456
can u cln plus jerk lol2pl8?
> consistent bar oscillation from the chinese
> Iranian tries for a record
> LOL NOPE YOU A CHEATER!
>>35046123
>being mad and jealous of based GuinnessLad
>>35046101
you haven't competed but post in /owg/, why?
>>35046185
are you the guy from plg, why do you shitpost on every general thread now go back to where you came from lad
>>35046195
chinks hate him
>>35046209
she's so perfect
>>35046253
is she?
>>35046253
for an american
any brown asian woman is 5x stronger
>>35042952
roids will
>>35046195
Man, these lifts are totally insane to me.
These guys don't look like they lift that much (especially the asian guys) but then they do shit like that.
I tried doing that lift once with 60kg or so, nearly fucked myself up. Obviously I'm nowhere as built as they are.
>>35046276
>>35046277
jellyfags
>>35045987
get a trainer
oly lifts shouldn't be learned through youtube vids, even moreso if your body can't stretch enough to do the movements
>>35046317
jealous of what? literally kazakstan and thailand are powerhouses of female weightlifters
mattie is the first american without absolutely horrendous form
congratulations on getting to where the rest of the world was 50 years ago
>>35046334
> mattie is the first american without absolutely horrendous form
Only because they hired a Polish coach and retired weightlifter, Zygmunt Smalcerz.
>>35046334
>congratulations on getting to where the rest of the world was 50 years ago
there was no women weightlifting 50 years ago idiot
>>35046344
>Only because they hired a Polish coach and retired weightlifter, Zygmunt Smalcerz.
she's not coached by zygmunt but by an american
>>35046334
>mattie is the first american without absolutely horrendous form
that's because she's the only one you know of, jon north believe it or not has beautiful snatch and clean his jerk just sucks
many others has textbook form as well you just dont know them
>>35046334
>jealous of what?
How about of a girl whose younger than you lifting heavier weights than you on a world stage?
jelly armchair coach faggot
>>35046318
I'm not looking to do them competitively, just casually.
okulov with just jacket no undershirt on with his necklace lmao
>>35046397
well then avoid the snatch
do loads of front squats and once you can do that you can start to clean
do push presses and hopefully you'll be able to do jerks
>>35046398
P I M P
judges turning down zielinski 212 that's so retarded, it's such a small wobble
>>35046451
dont listen to this guy
>>35046397
read the last thread and the threads before that, look at all the advice given to norsefat that's what you should do
plus read the op link about learning the lifts
were not going to see any flips are we
>>35046533
i belize in the baliz
>>35046533
he looks very weak today not even psyched on any of his lifts
poor didzbalis, my fav lifter
CHINA IS GONNA BOMB
>>35045998
Can you say good luck to me before every competition I participate in ?
fucking clutch hao liu
this is all larry's fault. his flag waving is putting too much pressure on the chinese. fucking larry man.
>>35046635
he already did in snatch
so close
asymmetrical as shit
Wrestling is harder than wl
fucking 230's everywhere
234 hype
fuck. 230 like nothing. kazakhstan is winning competition with their massive clean and jerks.
wr time bois
Kazaks>Russians
Kazaks are a russian/chinese hybrid country anyway.
that was clear red
uteshov next attempt 234
HYPE
>>35046723
zhassulan is going to kek his world record though.
>>35046722
agree
>>35046722
see they fucking pass this lift but zielinski's 212 was turned down
fucked up
>>35046740
do you need to be from a certain country for them to pass?
>>35046737
nope
>>35046737
uteshov gonna kek kydyrbaev, he even pats his back lmao
>>35046156
wait, 2 blues or 2 reds?
WR CMON
>>35046771
i don't think so.
>>35046780
what are you, a kid? adults only use fine white plates.
why are kazakhs so nice, ilya was telling ivanov to go for it when they were competing 2012, uteshov telling the guy good luck before 234
zhassulan has very thin wrists and ankles.
>>35046803
Because they have minimal northern european blood. North europeans can't just win, tthey have to rub it in your face and piss on your grave too.
>>35046803
borat bring cultural leranings make better glorious kazakhstan
it doesn't make sense that the younger zielinski has a cleaner technique than the older one yet he still lifts less than him, idk maybe we'll see him go past his brother in the coming years
>>35046842
>it doesn't make sense that the younger zielinski has a cleaner technique than the older one yet he still lifts less than him
fucking retarded comment
he's weaker. simple
form check on snatch
https://www.instagram.com/p/-jE_f4MDqn/
lifting 6 months, no coach
didzbalis looks like he's about to cry during the medal ceremony lol
>>35046866
>he's weaker
he's not they have the same, squat/pulls
>>35046880
put more weight on
>>35046880
are you actually serious about that shit it looks like you didnt even try learning or watch how a snatch is supposed to look like
>>35046880
Take this with a pincb of salt as I've been weightlifting less than that but there's a fair bit even I can spot
Not even close to full extension, bar is very far away from body, looks like its all arms. If you can get a coach do, I only see mine once a week during a shared hour with 5-10 people so progress is slow but its much better than nothing at all.
>>35046880
This is a troll guys, dont waste your time trying to help
>>35046926
i'm not trolling.....
>>35046921
thank you
>>35046918
yes im actually serious
>>35046897
i dont think i should till my technique is bulletproof
94's was pretty disappointing unlike yesterday's 85 session
