What are your thoughts on Intermittent Fasting?
>>34942157
Started today, will see how it goes
>>34942157
pointless more chance of over eating
calories in calories out
>>34942223
>eating window is reduced
>more chance or over eating
>>34942233
eating window?
what is stopping you from eating outside this window? people will just cave in and over eat
what is the point of this again?
>>34942243
>what is stopping you from eating outside this window?
the concept of intermittent fasting
How does it interact with protein synthesis?
>>34942243
You've never even tried to not stuff your face all day, have you? I bet you're one of those 'lol permabulking :^)' fags. It's remarkably easy to transition over to IF and it doesn't even require /that/ much willpower
>>34942251
sounds like you have no clue of what you are talking about
list the pro's of this verses regular diet and exercise?
>>34942257
>>34942263
google leangains, all the info and studies you need are there
>>34942260
i eat >1000 calories a day and have done for the last 93 days
>>34942218
same here, watched a video by kinobody where Greg told how he does it with strategic coffees.
>>34942157
i got bored with it so i stopped.
though usually skip breakfast anyway because i dont feel like it
>>34942266
>google leangains
read the sticky i don't need google
>>34942273
my question is coffee gives you energy with no calories does this mean your body will burn less calories while using the caffeine?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404961
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21410865
>These findings suggest that these diets are equally as effective in decreasing body weight and fat mass, although intermittent CR may be more effective for the retention of lean mass.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3127426/
also I personally find it easier to eat at a deficit when I'm only having 2 meals and 1 snack. the first week or two will be hell, but if you have the willpower it becomes easy after that. it actually ends up being difficult to eat outside of that window, which can be annoying if you're hanging out with friends or family
>>34942286
**may**
>>34942233
I have tried this. I usually end up eating an insane amount in the time period and feel shitty into the next day. I feel like you are better off with the complete opposite and eating a lot of small meals.
>>34942302
couldn't agree more sounds like op once again is a retard
>>34942302
>feel shitty into the next day
>everyone will too
You're just a pussy and don't assume everyone is like you. Don't like it don't do it
What about the benefits of metabolism and hormones? Do you think this is bullshit?
>>34942334
are there benefits?
and
yes.
>>34942157
>doing it everyday when i sleep
>>34942350
8 hour eating window, not 8 hour sleeping window senpai
>>34942340
>are there benefits?
Since you don't know about the advertised benefits you obviously never informed yourself about IF. This makes your post useless (^:
>>34942334
http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877%2806%2900089-2/abstract
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2815756/
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/86/1/7.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20815899
>this is bullshit?
http://www.leangains.com/2010/10/top-ten-fasting-myths-debunked.html
>>34942361
i have not posted on fit.
This makes your reply useless (^:
I like it. Even though most people prefer to leave their last few meals to the evening before bed I actually recommend trying to stop eating about 4-6 hours before you plan to go to sleep. I've been doing this and find I go to sleep feeling not hungry, but not full either, then while you're sleeping you add plenty of hours on to your fast which makes it easy because you don't have to think about your hunger. Worth trying
>>34942243
>what is stopping you from eating outside this window?
That's the same as saying "calories in, calories out" is bullshit and doesn't work because what's stopping you from eating more calories fucking retard
>>34942367
no. what do you think
not what links can you find
>>34942379
because you are continually putting food in your mouth all day so you won't go hours without eating
use your brain.
>>34942243
Are you a functional retard m8?
>>34942367
Are you doing IF / leangains? I just started it so I can try myself and build my own opinion instead of just repeating what some retard on /fit/ once shitposted.
>>34942286
how long is your feast window? how long should it be?
>>34942243
hoooly shit dude you just went full retard
>>34942408
4 minutes
>>34942157
working so far...
easy to follow and I see the weight shedding but I wouldn't put it all on IF, since I'm also doing carb cycling and eating well over 200g of protons a day, which is the method Martin Berkhan uses on his clients.
>>34942382
I think it's legit, been doing it for just about 2 weeks now, not enough time to be sure if it 'works'
>>34942401
same, just started it for a short 1 month cut til christmas
>>34942408
8h eating window, starting at 1pm
>>34942271
Yes, most people generally eat more than > 1000 calories a day.
>>34942412
if people cant eat for 18 hours how are they susposto sustain this diet in the long term. they are going to break and eat outside of the hours
>>34942423
2 weeks.
>>34942427
my mistake <
>>34942157
Trying it since a week.
IT IS FUCKING SICK
>>34942427
how much weight in 3 months?
>>34942423
Are you training fasted? When do you have your last meal? I've read that some people can't sleep well because of fasting or low carbs.
>2.2k calories to cut
>mfw 2 huge meals within 4-6 hours oh eachother
Weight just drops off I just make sure I get my protons in and have carbs on days I train and fats on rest days.
>>34942440
how much have you lost in what time frame?
>>34942431
IF inst super strict, as long as you eat a caloric deficit your gonna lose weight, the idea is your body eventually gets accustomed to burning fats once your glycogen stores are low ( I cant find any studies but its around 12-16 hours)
>>34942431
That's why you eat enough in your feeding window, generally meals get a lot bigger during IF than on the traditional 6 small meals concept, making people a lot fuller and saciated.
It also, as everything in life, requires a bit of willpower
>>34942386
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23404961
enjoy being hungrier :^)
>>34942408
8 hours is good. to get used to it I think I might have done closer to 10
I would do my two meals on either end of the eating window and basically gorge myself. I've never been great at eating a ton in one sitting though, so I probably didn't go over 800 calories
then I'd have a snack at 3-4 to tide me over. anywhere from 1/4 cup or so of nuts/sunflower seeds to some yogurt with granola
>>34942448
over 3 months I dropped from 200 to 170, it's slowed down dramatically these past few weeks but im around 11-12% bodyfat
>>34942436
Not me, tried linking but 4chan thinks I'm spam. Reverse image search that picture and check out the thread on bb.Com
>>34942431
>they are going to break and eat outside of the hours
No, they aren't. That's the point of doing IF, you stick with it. Check out kinobody, guy is doing it for 6 years, or so he says
>>34942438
sometimes I train fasted, haven't noticed any difference in strength doing it but best time to train is between meals IMO
My last meal is usually between 7 and 9 pm. I'll go to bed feeling full cause last meal is more than 1000kcal and sleep like a baby
Eating is a chore
one less meal lets me skip breakfast and go right to work and slave away like i love to do. then i just eat lunch and dinner inside 6 hours
>>34942420
soory dumb question but.."protons"???..
>>34942487
steroids
>>34942487
step up your slang senpai-san
>>34942470
How much cals do you eat on rest days? Are you doing carb cycling?
>>34942454
so why not just cut out the carbs?
>>34942460
i've been doing this a while now...
no hungrier
>>34942463
so generally diet and exercise works quicker for weight loss then
as i dropped 55lb in 3 months
What about the difference between working out fasted or inside your feeding period. I've heard working out fasted is better and it makes sense to burn more fat.
But i've been eating a light lunch like 500-600 cals then work out 2-3 hours after then a big dinner like 1200 cals including shake with a 6 hour feeding time and seeing great result after 2 months + obvious deficit.
I am active during my fasting period, just not lifting weights until later in the day.
>>34942503
>so why not just cut out the carbs?
you mean keto diet?
>>34942507
yh util you pass-out you need energy to workout
>>34942512
sure. if you want to give it a name
>>34942499
standard cut with 1 or 2 refeeds per week. Workout day is actually refeed day in pic related
>>34942523
Yeah but working out fasted your body will grab energy from the fat, as long it knows it will eat later
>>34942523
I bet your the same guy who posted
>>34942243
I can literally smell your stupidity
>>34942529
you eat above your tdee on lift days and below on rest days?
>>34942283
Caffeine doesn't give you energy, it makes you more alert. It's like saying cocaine gives you energy.
It's just time management.
Caloric deficit is more important.
>>34942529
What's your weight / height? I used http://sareyko.net/leancalc/ to calculate and it gave me 1500kcals on rest days and 2366 kcals on training days. (71kg / 178cm)
>>34942542
That's one of the points of leangains
I like it. It's simple to do especially for cutting. Usually 8, my eating window is 12 - 8pm which is easy to maintain. You just don't eat breakfast.
>>34942534
you clearly don't understand the reply
i cant explain it any better to you because i don't have any caryons
>>34942573
dosent eating breakfast startup your digestive system?
>>34942523
>pass out
kek, just try it before you start making stupid assumptions. I'll just drink a cup of coffee and haven't noticed any drops in strength or endurance
>>34942542
no, in that pic workout day means refeed day, I do 1 or 2 refeeds per week to stop my body from adapting to a prolonged calorie restriction. But eating more on workout days is a common thing to do while on IF
>>34942559
I'm 5'10 (180cm) and 163lbs (74kg)
I use http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/
>>34942580
>stop my body from adapting to a prolonged calorie restriction.
where can i read more about this i didn't know this was a thing, been a cut for 3 months now.
But i'm actually fat. My luifts go up very slowly and im not even at 1pl8 bench yet.
>>34942580
i have been there before..
nearly passing out after 30 minutes running most days.. this was a couple of years ago now ive got my act together this does not happen
>>34942243
Cue "i was just pretending to be retarded" protocol in 3... 2...
>>34942611
how old are you and what do you do for a living?
http://i.imgur.com/mZiohn0.webm
>>34942599
>where can i read more about this
check out kinobody on youtube, his plans are paid but I can upload them for you if you want.
If you're a beginner/intermediate you can cut and still progress on your lifts
>>34942601
I ran for 30mins today in the morning and only drank a cup of coffee, I think it comes with habit
>>34942503
>I dropped 55 pounds in 3 months
Doesn't mean anything, different people have different bodies, metabolism etc.
I mean good on you for losing that weight, but you really can't make the comparison
Maybe it's easier to IF for this person that gym and diet?
Maybe he's not concerned about timing and doesn't mind it happening over a longer period?
You don't know what he's doing outside of IF, and we don't know what you do exactly
If your killing yourself in the gym and dieting hard, of course you'll have better results
>>34942699
also. if his calories in and out are better than mine then he will get better results.
only reason i was saying was i think that regular diet and exercise is much more maintainable over longer periods.
It works. IV done it for a few months. Lost about 15-20lbs.
It's simple. You just don't eat as much food. Hard to cram yourself with thousands of calories when you only have an 8 hour consumption window.
You simply feel full during the 8 hours your shoveling food in to yourself=end up eating less food.
Don't make it too complicated you autists.
I have a friend who tried IT and his weight did drop, however his bf% did not.
>>34942157
Started at 265 five months ago. Now I am at 215;
6'2" btw. Didnt get all into it. Just did eat stop eat by Brad Pilion. Didnt even get on the scale the first month, but when I did I dropped 20 in about five weeks. Easiest way to lose weight ever. Its a bit tough the first two weeks, but now its automatic, and not uncomfortable at all.
>>34943449
Then he fucked up his macros and/or did not stimulate his muscles.
Simple science mang.
>>34944307
Oh, also, there's the possibility he was a fucking retard like many on /fit/ and went on a huge caloric deficit instead of a moderate one.
>>34942642
>check out kinobody on youtube
go away greg
>>34942642
I would be grateful if you uploaded Greg's Aggressive Fatloss for me
>Eating clean on IF
Literally torture, I can not get 2500+ cals worth of decent food in 8 hours before I feel like I'm going to puke.
>>34942157
My experience
>Not magic
>Best method ever for being to easily control your calorie and macro intake
>as you approach your eating window (for me about 4-5pm), you start to feel fucking amazing,,with a little caffiene
>>34945099
>bulking on IF
Oh Shit nigga what are you doing
>>34942523
>pass out
Sometimes if I'm sitting or crouching for a while (like inspecting groceries on the bottom shelf) and then stand up I'll get dizzy and sometimes I feel like I've almost passed out
Started IF three months ago, and it's working for me. I don't think there's any magic in it, like the paleofags would like you to believe, but it just helps with my appetite.
I'm the kind of guy who orders 2 pizzas, and then, hour after orders a big kebab, but with IF, I can control my appetite much better. It's so much easier to not eat in the morning, then eat a lot, than eat a little throughout all day. I just felt hungry all day long before IF, now I'm okay - somehow my body doesn't care about hunger until I start eating.
>>34942408
I'm doing 8 hours, 14:00 (2pm) to 22:00 (10pm). Tried different lengths, works good for me. I start that late because on average two time a week, I get to home at 21:00 (9pm), and I have eaten already only 400 to 600 calories.
>>34946148
Yeah, this is the good thing in it. You totally don't feel hungry until you break your fast. Then you put all your daily macros into your head over a short period of time, and you're done. So easy.
>>34942548
Cocaine gives you all types of energy senpai
