Sup /fit/, so for anyone knowledgeable in this area I was wondering if there's anyway to improve my facial aesthetics at the age of 19.
I screwed myself over (or rather, seasonal allergies did) by mouth-breathing my whole life, so I know some/ most of the damage can't be undone, but I'd like to know if anyone has tips for lifestyle changes that could lead to better facial symmetry, more masculine features, etc.
I got pretty lucky since Ive been told countless times I'm very attractive, some girl have even just come up to me and told me I'm 'beautiful', however I can't rely on these experiences and I know for a fact I could/ should look much better.
So other than fixing my sinuses and making a conscious effort to breathe through my nose, as well as maybe getting braces- do you /fit/izens know of anything else I can do if I still have any time left?
>>34874758
wanted to help you but then I saw the mouthbreathing meme.
take your bile to reddit or art of manliness or something.
>>34874801
Dude I'll take any help you can give
>>34874758
Post a pic of yourself first
>>34875265
pic is me, just now after pulling an all nighter so no bully pls
>>34875581
I can't stop laughing.
>>34875581
you look fine, get some sleep you faggot
>>34875581
3x100 pick cotton
>>34875581
pajeet, my son.
>>34875584
>>34875602
>>34875606
Nobody gives fucking help come on guys
>>34875581
Facial esthetics is 90% genetics man.
things that you can do to improve it
>be low bf so the cheekbones are more pronounced
>eat healthy and drink lots of water to have clean skin
>sleep well and no stress
>have a good mouthcare routine/dentist for white teeth
>protect your eyes and have lots of vitamin A in your diet
>use sunscreen all year round
>have a decent skincare routine
>go to a professional hair stylist/beard stylist
>have facial surgery
and do not forget
>go michael jackson mode
>>34876069
Thanks senpai
PART 1
ok op I'll help, most of the people in this thread don't know jack shit....
>first off your 19 you'll need to accept that although possible it will take significantly longer than children/teens; the one's who, according to Mike Mews experiment (I don't have a source but it shouldn't be too hard to find), had the quickest and most visible changes using his methods
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>This isn't to say you can't do it, just have patience, begin taking monthly pictures starting at day 1 - your baseline. Don't get down if you don't see as much change as you're hoping for at first, just keep pushing through and make a conscience effort to keep your jaw in its 'natural position' (next bullet)
>>34876235
PART 2
There is more to it and if you'd like I'll link you some good sites but the short answer:
>NO MOUTH BREATHING whatsoever...quick jog, running up the stairs, running somewhere, etc.... make a CONSCIENCE effort to breathe through your nose and keep your jaw tight and lips shut.
>Like I just mentioned, keep your lips shut unless you're eating or talking, seriously you have no idea how annoying it is to see some guy just hanging their mouth way open (mouth breathing obviously) {debatable: some say to keep their teeth shut as well; while some say to have them lightly touching, haven't found a good answer to that yet}
>Lastly, unless your a terrible mouth breather, this will probably be the hardest to really master and keep up on a daily basis. I'm sure others could explain better than me but basically if you have a less than desirable jaw, it's probably due to how you've positioned your tongue through the course of your life. And in case you weren't aware, unlike genetics which most people automatically jump to, the jaw is largely developed around the tongue and the pressure it exerts.
Thus if you have a small possibly underdeveloped jaw, it's likely caused by poor oral tongue posture.
And vice versa, if you have a big manly jaw so to speak, it was likely largely crafted by the tongue.
>not to say genetics don't have any effect, but if a man were to grow up with wonderful genetics he might end up having 'select attractive attributes,' but if he lived his life with terrible oral and overall posture there's no way he'd live to his full potential no matter his special genetics. Point is fuck genetics as long as your motivated and really do put in the work you'll see improvement.
>>34876239
Is this some new method to scam amerifat idiots?
>>34876235
>>34876239
This is me
>>34876069
"Facial esthetics is 90% genetics man.
things that you can do to improve it
>be low bf so the cheekbones are more pronounced
>eat healthy and drink lots of water to have clean skin
>sleep well and no stress
>have a good mouthcare routine/dentist for white teeth
>protect your eyes and have lots of vitamin A in your diet
>use sunscreen all year round
>have a decent skincare routine
>go to a professional hair stylist/beard stylist
>have facial surgery"
>I also agree with most of this
Get lean like he said get so your bone structure is visible but not creepy anorexic shit.
Water mane, make sure you drink some kinda purified water you dunno wtf is in the tap water.
Do whatever you can, having a bad smile is a turn off to most girls so do whatever you can to avoid that; whether it's seeing a dentist orthodontist whatever it takes man it's worth it to have a good smile.
And I didn't really see your hair or beard but if you can rock that could add some points depending how it looks
>>34876276
exactly
>some girl have even just come up to me and told me I'm 'beautiful'
SO SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>34876239
Haha kinda forgot to mention the most important think about this tongue posture thing: naturally your tongue is supposed to rest on the roof of your mouth, literally 24/7.
Getting it constantly during the days kind of a struggle but getting into proper position throughout the night's a mission. And eventually once you keep at it you'll find the most 'natural' position then just try your hardest to keep it there.
>>34876391
How?
>>34874758
There are actually a few things that can be done, depending on your individual situation. Post a picture of yourself so I have an idea what we're working with here.
>>34876533
I gotta make some moves but keep this thread live till tonite or so I'll be back
>anyone with anything to contribute don't holdback everything's appreciated
>>34876391
Not sure about that senpai. Resting the tongue on top of mouth requires effort and the muscle is tense, while letting it lay on the bottom saves effort.
And I'm pretty sure the most natural is always the most energy efficient
Get at or under 12% bf > whiten teeth > figure out a haircut >>> anything else, really
Not op but
How do I pick a good hairstyle?
Read a few guides about face shapes and shit but those are for white people. What if I'm a shitskin?
>>34877785
bald t b h
>>34877785
desu.
i'm like 20-25% bf. would dropping to 10% improve my facial aesthetics significantly?
>>34877998
also should i keep that 5 o'clock shadow or clean shave?
>>34877998
Can't really tell.
Some people have nice bone structures hidden under fat, so whey they cut they become a lot more attractive.
Other's don't, so don't improve that significantly.
>>34877998
You don't look bad, would look much better with lighter teeth, thought.
>>34878199
thats the natural colour of my teeth unfortunately. i should look into bleaching i guess.
>>34875606
hahahahaha
>>34878259
I know, but it's the first thing I notice, otherwise you'll be okay. Be glad that your teeth are straight, bleaching is easier and cheaper.
>>34874758
You sound like your whole ego and identity is tied to looking pretty.
You're not a girl you're a man. Pussy
>>34878405
Its actually fairly common for males to fret over looks. Just look at peacocks, the males are the ones with the giant plumage.
>you're such a pussy girl
This isn't an insult in this day and age. The fact you think it is speaks more about you than it doesn't about pussy or females and shows how uneducated you are. Frankly maybe you should worry more about looks, because a lot of you are uglier than you'd like to imagine
>>34876288
>tap water is bad for you
Well memed tinfoil
>>34878607
you are right but i think you are a neckbeard m'lady fag.
How do i improve my genetics desu senpai?
>>34878843
Try killing yourself desu senpai
>>34878862
I promised my mom I wouldnt.
>>34878877
Some promises are meant to be broken. She will understand your suicide.
>>34878607
>This isn't an insult in this day and age. The fact you think it is speaks more about you than it doesn't about pussy or females and shows how uneducated you are.
Have you ever seen a pussy m8?
They're dribbly flappy soft gushy flesh holes that literally only exist to have phallic objects rammed inside of them and bleed profusely without injury every month
If I can call someone that with one word you can bet your ass I'll use it regardless of your legbeard womyns liberation social engineering attempts
>>34878405
Dude I honestly did not care at all in High school, but I'm in an environment that's extremely competitive in every way imaginable and I'm not top dog anymore, just want a leg up desu senpai
>>34876583
Hey, posted my face earlier here >>34875581
>>34875581
You could try becoming white
How to get more pronounced bone structure?
>people think you can work your way to a decent jaw
holy shit you people are delusional
once you get to a low enough bf percentage you either have a nice jaw or you don't
>>34880202
but before you get there you have Schrodinger's jaw
lanklets finally realized that having an ugly face is significant?
when will they learn?
>>34880272
kek.
>>34879527
Whites are ugly tho
>>34880126
wtf do grills like beards like this?
>>34880272
>Schrodingers jaw
please make this a thing
>>34880354
I don't get this sudden "lets hate on white people" trend. It's just not gonna work out, it's like watching a ginger nerd decide that he is gonna yell loser outside the window of Chads mansion while Chad bangs his crush in the jacuzzi.
>>34880399
They don't really mind it
>>34880202
I'm 100% certain it's just another byproduct of millennials having been told their whole lives that every one's a winner/special/Gods little miracle now trying to keep themselves away from the fact they're maybe just another average joe or worse... ugly. No you see if you do this little trick here with your tongue and you too can unlock the inner male model hidden in your genetics.
I also love the fact that evertime these threads get posted there just happens to be that one helpful anon with all the information saved as copypastas.
>>34880126
If that's you mate the answer is surgery and that's about it.
Personalty I think you don't need to be worry about that shit but you are the one you have to pacify not others
>>34880468
>sudden
>It's just not gonna work out
You must be politically unaware
>>34877868
are... are you wearing fucking makeup?
>>34880516
Probably should have gone with "recent" as in a few years back, english is not my first language.
And I don't really see it working. I mean, it's trending among sandnogs, feminists and the selfhating keks that is todays leftists but it's not really affecting the target is it? It's annoying but it's so transparent and unsubstantial that I just can't imagine anyone with selfrespect allowing it to affect their lives.
>>34875581
>black
not gonna making it, unless you manage to narrate how you got shot whilst selling dope in a rap album white people are willing to buy
>>34880505
Surgery is a worrying thing, once its done it's hard to undo if it doesn't look right
>>34880500
>watches fight club once
>>34880126
Give up on facial hair. You don't look that bad otherwise, no need for surgery.
>>34874758
actual tip I've learned is always keep your tongue on the roof of your mouth, it helps define your chin, especially from the side
>>34876069
>90% genetics
Educate yourself some more nerd
>>34880126
you should have eaten and slept more as a teen anon :(
>>34874758
wow his eyebrows are not even on the same level
>>34883838
It's a facial gesture.
>>34874758
Mate I hate to break it to you but if you're at low bodyfat and not a complete skelly and girls still ignore you, your resources are better spent elsewhere.
>>34876854
Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense
>>34876288
I've actually checked my local water and couldn't find any microbes in it.
Chlorine is a hell of a chemical.
>>34876854
My tongue naturally rests on the roof of my mouth a little behind the teeth.
My tongue strains when it is down, it's straining for you because it's away from it's normal position.
>>34874758
>I screwed myself over (or rather, seasonal allergies did) by mouth-breathing my whole life
Anyone want to explain to with supporting evidence how this is supposed to impact someone's facial appearance?
Lose weight, that's how I did it. 100lbs later I found out that I actually have a pretty good jaw and chin, I always thought I just had a fat round head. I'll never grow another full beard again, I'll tell you that much
Botox and dermal fillers can improve most people's faces and prevent bad stuff in the future like wrinkles. Ain't no cure for ugly though.
what about a shitty nose?
>>34885905
...what about it?
>>34885933
looks like shit? doesnt even work well, had to have surgery for my partition because I couldn't breathe well
>>34885962
well there aren't any nose exercises you can do, so if you're asking if there's anything you can do to make it look better.... no. there isn't. except surgery of the plastic variety
>>34880544
>2015
>not wearing make up to cover your dark circles after nights of no sleep & alcoholism
its the only way
>>34882656
:( too late now isn't it
>>34876239
Only a totally insecure loser would put this much thought and effort into this shit.
Taking care of your appearance is easy and simple for people that aren't pedantic weirdos.
>>34880202
>masseter hypertrophy isn't real
Do you even basic anatomy
>>34886744
>only an insecure loser would put this much thought and effort into lifting weights
This is essentially what you're saying, why is exercising to improve the attractiveness of your body okay but exercising(kinda) to improve the attractiveness of your face bad?
>>34874758
A good haircut goes a long way in improving facial aesthetics. Since getting an SS haircut I have constantly been receiving compliments from all sorts of people. Pic related, me.
>>34886770
That image is years old
>>34885265
Sources are at the end of the article
http://www.jeffersondental.com/assets/docs/mouthBreathing.pdf
>>34874758
Yo these facial aethetics thread are killing me its everyday with this faggot ass bullshit
>>34886800
>fit crap
I actually believed this crap until I checked my pictures from childhood.
>>34886811
>on a board where over 50% of the posts are by people wanting to improve their body's aesthetics
>people trying to improve their face's aesthetics is faggot ass shit
>>34886828
Meh, personally I never mouth breathed and I have very straight teeth, I've known maybe five mouth breathers (two guys, three grills) and all of them ended up having fucked up teeth that needed hardcore braces, one girl in particular went from being quite pretty as a child to ugly as fuck as an adult
>>34880544
It's called BB Cream. Wait, it'S 2015, they're probably wearing CC Cream by now.
Ever wonder why people on TV mostly have blemish-free skin? Actors? Moderators? Normal people?
It's BB or CC cream.
>>34886854
I've never been a mouth breather (it feels extremely weird to even breath through my mouth) and I have no jaw but crooked teeth.
>>34886897
Did you eat a diet of soft foods as a kid? That's been proven to fuck up the teeth, my diet was chewy and hard as fuck
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/3470182/
>>34886915
Examples? What types of food did you normally eat? I want to know because I'll be a father soon.
>>34886889
Speaking from experience of you go on tv they use makeup to make your face much darker than it naturally is, otherwise you look ridiculously pale under the bright lights even if you have a decent tan otherwise
>>34886933
Chewy steaks and chops, beef jerky, nuts, broccoli, carrots, potatoes, vegetables in general, very little rice or other grains, I'm also much taller than my parents and my family thinks that it might be diet related since my Manlet father ate almost nothing but grains as a kid
>>34878405
From "The Wire"
Detective McNaulty : "You know how they call people who care that much about their looks right ?"
Detective Bunk : "Yeah. Grownups."
>>34875581
There is nothing about your face that suggests long face syndrome from being a mouth breather.
There is some truth to that meme but mostly it's just memey bullshit, like everything else on /fit/.
>>34879473
Try learning game then and don't be a tucking nigger
>>34878843
Go the /fa/ method.
3xF Dick suck. Really helps bring in the cheeks.
