I finally did it /fit/, I pulled my back deadlifting. My question to you is whether I should see a doctor or not? It hurts really fucking bad, like the pain is shooting down my back thighs. I can't move at all without feeling like a knife is in my lower back. Is this something I just walk off or could it be more serious like a disk is out of place?
nah man don't see a doctor, you're ok
>>34865484
ur fucked cut it off
u fucking idiot
How did you pull your back? too many sets?
Same happend to me a couple days ago, its already a lot better dont think a doc is needed.
>>34865484
hahah you will be fine i fractured my tailbone and chipped my spine wrestling. I never went to doctor till like 4 years after cuz i could move my ass bone around. shit will fix itself in time.
>>34865484
DL is the safest lift in history if done correctly
what you did was hurt yourself incorrectly dling
>>34865561
w-what
this is bad advice
>>34865567
>DL is the safest lift in history
fatty shill pls go
>>34865484
to save money and time:
if its your back, chill
if you feel numbness in your legs, go to ER
>>34865484
How bad was your form?
>>34865573
P-people w-who t-talk i-in m-memes d-don't k-know s-shit.
>>34865541
I was picking up 65lb to curl with off the ground with a rounded back, because it's only 65lb why the fuck would I use good form right? And as soon as I lifted it up I felt like I got kicked in the lower back by Bruce lee
>>34865614
>slipping a disk off of picking up 65lb
mate this basicly says that your spine was already weak
people with great deadlifts can pick up triple that with a rounded back with no problem
numbness or tingling in legs or shooting pains then op better go to the doctor. he might have fucked up a disc
Shits gonna be expensive, but chronic back pain is a bitch
>>34865484
SNAP CITY BITCH
POPULATION YOU
YOU KNOW WHY THEY CALLED DEADLIFTS NOW OP?
Hope all goes well.Serously call a doctor or go er.
>>34865632
dude, there was a world champion strongman who injured his back fixing a tire in his bicycle. it's not about back strength really.
>>34865632
My max deadlift is 375. I'm not saying I'm super strong but to say I have a weak back would be a lie.
>>34865614
>I was picking up 65lb to curl with off the ground
>65 lb
>to curl with
>I felt like I got kicked in the lower back by Bruce lee
0/10
>>34865567
> DL is the safest lift in history if done correctly
No one said ever, I did them for three fucking years and constantly had these phantoms pains all over my back in random places, I just got used to them and debated which year im going to a chiropractor, stopped doing them for a few months just because and literally all the pains disappeared, never again, ruined my aesthetics by giving me birth giving hips and almost fucked my back
>>34865484
>Pulling conventional unless you're a professional athlete
For what purpose
You can reach the same results with sumo and it's infinitely safer
>>34865671
Yep sounds like bad flexibility or just has a genetic back defect
>>34865695
Deadlifts are safe though unless you have bad form or a bad back.
>>34865692
your dl form a shit
>b-but my friend who benches 250 said it was good
lmao
>>34865673
>65 lb
>to curl with
whats wrong with curling 65lb dumbbells?
Snapped my shit up very badly deadlifting too much weight with poor form. Fixed my shit up perfectly again by deadlifting with textbook form.
A well performed deadlift is pretty much the best back-strenghtening exercise in existance.
Problem is few people actually understand the fundamental movement pattern, and too many people are always trying to push the envelope on this exercise, which can obviously lead to bad things.
>>34865484
This is why you're not supposed to deadlift, you dumb nigger.
>>34865484
go to docs breh
>>34865561
How would you know you fractured your tailbone and chipped your spine if you didn't go to a doctor?
If anything, you got hurt and thats it. You got lucky it wasnt anything serious.
>>34865765
>A well performed deadlift is pretty much the best back-strenghtening exercise in existance.
did you mean to type THE PULLUP?
>>34865484
most likely a disc-slip
got one after heavy squat in may .
got back to working out in july. after a couple of visits to a chiropractor.
>>34865795
>risking it
>>34865801
>being able to afford a chiropractor
>>34865812
I think the gains are worth it personally.People wouldn't deadlift if you were likely to mess your back up.
>>34865827
Gains of a strong back.
Potential cons of chronic pain, lack of physical ability, forever poor because medical bills. No thnx bb
Did mine the other week, if you dont have any powerful pain meds on hand see the doctor, if you do just ride it out and rest
>>34865484
definitely sounds like potential neurological complications, go see a doc lol
>>34865839
Again good form makes deadlifts one of the best exercises for functional strength and completely safe.You're acting like Snap city is a common destination.Do you not squat as well?
why would one deadlift if you aren't competing in pl
Had backpain from DL form
corrected form, now im doing much better after small treatment
However my lfits are really small (1 plate) otherwise my back hurts again.
Go see a doctor, get some xrays
>>34865864
He has a point though, if you are purely after aesthetics or cant get form down without a coach its better to not deadlift
>>34865671
Our bodies subconsciously prepare themselves for whatever obsticle we are about to hurdle.
Youre less likely to get hurt deadlifting 600 pounds than lifting a 100 pound bag of cement because the moment you step into a gym and the moment you smell the iron or whatever que your body uses, your body is ready to rumble.
http://psysci.com/2012/11/06/classical-conditioning-of-drug-tolerance/
This involves heroine but basically if people took 1/10th the dose they usually take in a novel location they were very likely to die. The body just wasnt ready.
Doctors are awful at diagnosing back problems, waste of money going to them right away they will xray mri etc charging a forture only to tell you that its too early to tell and you should rest take painkillers etc and if it persists to go back
get some anti inflammatorys STRONG painkillers and muscle relaxants and you will be all good
>>34865484
I am a doctor and have a lot of friends in orthopedics. the amount of people who fuck their shit up deadlifting and squatting is insane. I hope they will ban these one day or the other, we can't pay for stuping people doing suicide exercises
>>34865876
I agree and now get his point that not everyone needs to dl.It's just he seemed to make out chronic injuries will happen if you dl.
>>34865918
oh fuck, i just started deadlift and squat at a SS gym
>>34865614
>because it's only 65lb why the fuck would I use good form right?
You fucking idiot, you are just likely to wreck your shit picking up light weight with bad form. Never pick up anything with bad form, moron but I guess you learned your lesson now.
>>34865692
>if
>done
>correctly
>>34865731
Y-you f-form is shit ! thats it
> Implying I have a friend that benches fuckign 250
bruh not everyone hangs around with olympic weightlifters
>>34865968
250 lbs isn't olympic level fag
>>34865918
>I am a doctor
>MO, MD, or PhD
>hangs out on 4chan, /fit/ in the afternoon
yeah......... okay.
>>34865866
traps, sternocleidomastoid, forearms, abs, lower back, glutes, quads, calves, the reasons are endless.
Deadlifts are the best general purpose lift to look strong, period.
Do yoga. Fuck these shills telling you to go see a doctor.
>>34865906
>goes to hospital and asks doctor to check for problems
>checks and finds no problems
>"doctors are horrible cause they didn't find any problems"
>>34865864
No I don't. I kept trying but couldn't get passed 225x5 without something going wrong. My hip always feels off and would probably need to see someone about it before attempting again, but I'm too poor right now. After getting the numb foot, tingly leg and nerve pain in my glute and back never fucking again until I see a specialist.
>>34865692
>3 years do deadlift
>still haven't read how to do it CORRECTLY
some people just waste their life in gym
apparently spinal decompression helps when it comes to slipped discs
good luck finding one of those machines though
>>34865484
>pain shooting down thighs
Sounds like a slipped disc. Stop loading your spine for now and get to the doctor.
>>34866024
>stretch around like a fucking retard while you are currently feeling intense pain in your back
bad fuckign advice, get out of here.
>>34866035
sounds like you just have a nerve issue to me, nothing wrong with squatting in that case but you should get it checked and fixed out still.
>>34865695
sumo is for faggots who can't deadlift but still want to slam some heavy weight
plus sumo deadlift looks like you are gonna snap your knees and bend legs on spot
>>34866048
You're a fucking moron.
I reckon people injure themselves on the diddlylift is because of 100% lower back and 0% hamstrings are used.
>diddlylift with what i thought was 10/10 form. Camera shows all the right signs. Looks like a solid DL.
>go heavy (heavy for me) for 10 reps
>i can stand up straight after the set. >my lower back is fucked for a few days/week
>question my form
>research, what many deadlift form youtube vids
>realise i wasn't activating my glutes and hamstrings on the lift.
>next day, use correct form (push knees into crook of arm which activates hamies n glutes.
>pull up, glutes n hamies are firing
>no pain after lift and better ass and hamy pump
>tfw
>>34866062
you should not be stretching your spine in every imaginable direction when you have undiagnosed pain, should be common fucking sense.
>>34866055
I thought so too and keep hoping that's it, like an irritated piriformis or something. But I haven't squatted or deadlifted for a year and still have nagging pinching pains at certain angles in my lower back. I tried just warming up to squat like a month ago and 95 lbs was all it took to get that familiar feeling again so I noped my way out of the gym.
Got a taste of sciatica and now I'm too scared to squat or deadlift. I used to love squatting too.
>>34865484
Go to the hospital, they probably give you a muscle relaxant and painkillers.
Why even deadlift brahs? If you want aesthetics you don't need to potentially fuck ur back up.
>inb4 "hurr durr a real mayn does dedlyft"
fuck off you fat cunts
>>34866106
I have what I believe to be a misplaced nerve or something in my forearm and I get exactly what you described in my shoulder for certain movements, like hammer curls or when setting up dumbbell shoulder press. I haven't get it diagnosed by a doctor yet but I can say with 99% certainty that its a misplaced nerve, and that doesn't go away without corrective surgery, no matter how long you leave it.
>>34865692
>phantom pains
Such a lust for deadlifts
>>34866197
lel'd. too bad that game fuckign sucked.
>>34866009
What are timezones you underage faggot
>>34865792
>did you mean to type THE PULLUP?
Only if you're a bodybuilder who makes the classic uneducated mistake of thinking the back is comprised only of the latissimus dorsi and that everything else is irrelevant.
I shake my head every time I see somebody's "back day" consisting of 100% lat work and nothing else.
>>34866197
I'm already a deadlift dog
>>34866142
>shoot me
I hope I'll be able to squat again some day and get it good.
I sometimes get nerve feeling shooting through one of my arms too with heavy dips, but it goes away and never is really painful. My shoulders are crooked too lol.
>>34866040
Deadlift is fucking high risk low reward exercise, i have probably seen 30 hours of footage on how to do them, no to mention read all SS books books and browsed fit for 10 years. you clowning yourself man
>>34866278
anything apart from pullups rows and farmer's walks are memes
>>34866278
Lol pullups/chin ups work every muscle in your back except spinal erectors. A lot more than just lats
>>34866313
>low reward
really nigger?
>>34866278
>I see somebody's "back day" consisting of 100% lat work and nothing else.
fucking THIS.
Not as infuriating but this always amuses me
>why are you doing traps on back day?
>when do you do it?
>shoulder day of course
The average gymgoers anatomical knowledge is shocking.
>>34866324
>pullups/chin ups work every muscle in your back except
iliocostalis
longissimus
spinalis
semispinalis
multifidi
rotatores
upper & middle trapezius
rhomboideus minor & minor
>>34866374
Wrekt
>>34865918
You're retarded. If you're a doctor you would love injured people showing up since you make more money. Instead of punishing the whole for the mistakes of the few; you should just euthanize those that fuck their shit up with shit form.
People fuck their back up because they don't use their glutes and Hams. They use almost exclusively lower back to straighten themselves out.
Learn to do the lift and use appropriate weights and it is extremely difficult to cause damage.
>>34866313
Been deadlifting for 5 years no issues.
Made me more athletic adding inches to my vert and long jump.
Helped me pack on mass.
I also respected the exercise and didn't ego lift keeping solid form. Would stop at technical failure.
Would put deadlifts on par with squats in terms of risk but that's just my opinion.
>>34866374
>like I've even heard of those muscles
You're probably just making up words lol
Stay mad
>>34866073
You're proving my point that you're a moron.
>>34866374
except you're wrong
"Spinal Extension Exercises
Strengthening the longissimus thoracis via spinal extension requires exercises that push the muscle through its full range of motion. Because of its central location in the body, nearly every form of vigorous exercise will require the spinal muscles to contract and extend. Some examples of exercises that rely on spinal extension to work out the erector spinae are back extensions, swimming, rowing, pullups, pulldowns, deadlifts and cable rows. All of these exercises work your upper spine, using either weights, your body weight or the pull of gravity as resistance."
>>34866428
Shut the fuck up nerd
>>34866428
tell me why it's a good idea to stretch your back when you have intense UNDIAGNOSED pain in your spine?
>>34866438
>longissimus thoracis
Well yeah, but this is only part of the longissimus muscle. If I had divided those muscles further the list would've been twice as long.
Anyway, I'm not dissing the pull-up. Love pull-ups, but people just have to realize that there's more to back training. And it's not always just about what makes you look swole.
Sending prayers, thoughts and good vibes your way, OP.
>>34866065
this is helpful. thank you
>>34866521
You're the hero we've been waiting for.
>>34865756
he's dyel and thinks that's heavy
>>34865484
S N A P C I T Y
N
A
P
C
I
T
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Sharp stabbing and radiating pain: see a doctor
Dull aching pain: you're fine in a week
>>34866402
I live in a country where the government pays for medical care for everybody. So I actually want less hurt people so we can use the money on people who is really sick because of bad luck instead of autistic kids who do dangerous exercises just because a board owned by a sperglord japanese faggot says them to do them, that they are safe, that you just need good form.
NO.
THEY ARE DANGEROUS. PERIOD. FUCKING UP YOUR SPINE IS A MATTER OF WHEN. MARK MY WORDS YOU STUPID IDIOTS
>>34865968
>Dat feel when rep. 265
It's seriously not that much, I think anyone who regularly trains for over a year can get 250. Assuming your not coming from some completely sedentary lifestyle. Matter o' fact, a friend of my took a guess pass, he benched 2pl8 after not being in the gym for 5 years... he also works a pretty physical intense job, but still 250 isn't that much mang.
>>34865918
Deadlifts and squats are no more dangerous than any other exercise if done properly. Of course you have to factor in more weight = more risk which can be applied to all movements. The reason you see so many idiots in your "practice" or whatever, is because of the amount of weight they were fucking with was too much, improper form, and not training properly. I'm not a doctor, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn.
>>34866752
>Deadlifts and squats are no more dangerous than any other exercise if done properly
this is so stupid.
so you're telling me deadlifts and squats are equally dangerous as walking?
the dude brisk walking has the same chance to injure his spine as the dude squatting/deadlifting? you are fucking braindead
Doesn't sound too bad.
Start worrying if the pain doesn't decrease within a day, or if you have reduced strength in your legs, trouble controlling urination or reduced sensibility in your legs. If you have any of these 3 symptoms, you need to go to the emergency ASAP.
Also if the pain is located to a certain vertebrae or two. You can check this by applying (a little) pressure to the spinae of each vertebrae. Go to the GP.
Sounds like a pinched nerve/lumbago/ etc unspecific back pains, nothing to worry about.
>>34865981
> pounds
fuck right off
> I think anyone who regularly trains for over a year can get 250
I have been training with quite a few mates for 7 years now and none of us bench 2 plate, been to many gyms and maybe 1 out of 10 lads bench that, one max or 3x5 yeah, but not more than that
>>34865968
>>34865981
>>34866716
>olympic weightlifters bench
I learn new things here everyday
>>34865484
>falling for the deadlift meme
>>34866752
too bad its really hard to do those exercises properly with high weight. what a dumb statement. if you arent training for sports or competitive lifting then there isnt any reason to do deads or heavy squats
>2015
>deadlifting
lmao
>>34867426
>there isnt any reason to do deads or heavy squats
it feels good to do them.
like as a man. it feels good.
and you put on muscle
I took a week long trip to snap city a few months back. Here's how that went. No doctor visits.
>diddly lift 250 lbs after being out of the gym for two years
>lower back pain starts, pain down the legs develops
>sciatica or whatever it's called developed, basically pinched nerve due to swollen disk or something
>just took some advil, iced the lower back and did easy stretches that worked my hamstrings
>after a week of no gym and plenty of rest, nerve pain went away
>deloaded diddly all the way down to 185lbs and have made sure my form is perfect every time
>pain free ever since
I think flares up when I do heavy low bar squats but it's not severe pain and it never lasts more than a day or so. It's usually right above my ass where the glutes attach so it might be something else.
But definitely get a doctor to look at it. I was super lucky I didn't snap my shit up so ymmv.
i did squat, deadlift, and press yesterday and i believe area where my SI joint is sore/aches; mostly when i sit
>>34865484
Hey bro,
so yeah you did it.
Those shooting pains are sciaticas, that means you damaged a disk.
You dont need to see a doctor, its highly unlikely you need surgery, all hed do is give you pain meds maybe which you dont need.
What you can do is go see a physio, if you dont want to spend money or something,
do these
http://www.spine-health.com/wellness/exercise/mckenzie-therapy-mechanical-low-back-pain
http://www.fixyourownback.com/Index.cfm
or go here.
It's most likely a bulged disk, and you can actually correct that through movement, it's not the end of the world, I've done it, and I've fixed it, was only out like 2 weeks.
>>34867503
Yep, that's exactly what happened.
Sciatic pain from probably a bulged or inflamed disk, like most inflammation pain, itll just go away on your own.
but OP you really dont need to see a doctor, I mean if you want to be safe, especially if you start to feel a significant amount of numbness(damage to nerve roots), then ok maybe. But seriously a bulged disk is very painful, and a full hernia is very bad, but it's very unlikely, and honestly with a full hernia you wouldnt be on fit considering going to the doctor, you'd want an ambulance taking you right from the gym.
>>34867680
>>34867692
http://www.fixyourownback.com/Index.cfm seriously guys, I'm not trying to shill for this guy, and its annoying he put it behind a pay wall but this really does work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV-WXHey0E8 here are the intro to some of the videos, duffin used to have the full ones up for free but i guess not anymore.
It's worth paying for tho
>>34865573
Because it says he went after, dumb ass
Fucking read
>>34865484
>my back hurts really fucking bad, like the pain is shooting down my back thighs
>I can't move at all without feeling like a knife is in my lower back
>My question to you is whether I should see a doctor or not?
What country m8
>>34865614
It's funny because Bruce lee ruined his back essentially doing what you did.
Good mornings without a warmup
>>34868097
yeah but Bruce Lee was dyel as fuck because he was an actor
>>34867073
Ilya can bench 200kg
>>34866916
If you're walking carrying the amount of weight you squat or deadlift with... well then yea, it'd be just as dangerous. Can you read and comprehend what you read?
>>34867426
>too bad its really hard to do those exercises properly with high weight
well then lower the fucking weight
>what a dumb statement
Well can't that be applied to lifting in general. God /fit/ has we to complete shit. You niggers are dyel as fuck.
>>34865484
>I can't move at all without feeling like a knife is in my lower back
>whether I should see a doctor or not?
how old are you that you're still this retarded?
>>34865695
Enjoy your broken feet.
>>34866106
Could be a problem with your sacroilliac joints causing the piriformis, etc. to become super tight (I've had this issue). Take some anti inflammatories, see if it gets any better, and consider getting a scan. A tight lower back can also cause this, so either way I'd consider seeing a physiotherapist.
>>34865484
doc here, you could have sciatica. google it to see if it fits, and go see a doctor. also google straight leg raise test and try that and if its positive go see a doctor asap.
>>34865903
Broscience overlooooooooooooooooad
