the whole 1g of protein per pound of bodyweight
used to buy into this shit and try to eat 225g of protein daily...baka
now i eat 120g/140g tops - zero loss in muscle size or strength
you didnt have any gains to lose in the first place
>>34839722
I believe it was originally 1 gram of protein per kilogram of weight. It was changed to lb by a lazy asshole who didn't want to do the math of converting his lbs into kilogram
>>34839722
>1g of protein per pound
>>34839761
>1 gram of protein per kilogram of weight. It was changed to lb by a lazy asshole who didn't want to do the math of converting his lbs into kilogram
Literally every publication on the matter suggest 0.8 g/kg for normal people up to 1.5g/kg for athletes; more than 2 is retarded and possibly unhealthy
This is completely anecdotal but here's my experience. I'm currently unemployed so I workout as much as I can and am probably overtrained. 6 days a week I run 3 km in the morning, then in the afternoon I lift heavy for 1.5 hours (squatting, deadlifting, benching twice a week each), then stair climb 80 flights in under 15 minutes, and swim 4 km in about 1 hour. If there is anyone that has high protein needs, it's me. Calories are 5200 but protein is probably 140g tops. Rest of my diet is garbage, whole pizza, whole box of cereal, etc. but I've still made incredible gains since I've been doing this.
eric helms disagrees
and he's not some corporate shill, he's actually conducted studies himself
>>34839722
but did you get stronger
leaner?
fatter?
cos if not then what was the point in changing if it simply dosnt matter than its peoples choice why be a faggot and try push your opinion and agenda on people if people want to eat more protein and it dosnt make no difference to them
let them
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It's been known for a while now (at least 20 years, see Lemon PW) that strength athlete need about 1.4-1.8 g.kg-1.day-1.
>>34839722
do your own research and actually read the studies on protein intake
>>34839865
>1.4-1.8 g.kg-1.day-1.
what the fuck does that mean 1.4 - 1.8g per kg per day what the fuck does the extra 1 on the end mean?
>>34839889
notation that means 1/kg.
Go study some maths and physics if you don't get it.
Anyone decent uses steroids, so 1g per lb is actually on the low end.
>>34839889
I take it you've never finished high school, -1 means divided by.
>>34839819
>every publication says this
>I think its bullshit and is unhealthy
i hope you have research backing your claims, lol
>>34839907
its just an odd as fuck way to write it
easier to say 1.4-1.8g-1kg-1day
seems like your trying to hard to seem smart
>>34839918
/1 means divide by dipshit
>>34839918
uhhh, no. ^-1 means that
>>34839918
lol you mean ÷1
>>34839907
never in all my years of math and science have i seen that notation. and i graduated with chem major and math minor
>>34839722
whats more important is where your protein comes from
i know people who get the majority of their protein from rice and bread and wonder why they dont make no gains
>>34839929
No I just mean its widely used in physics, I thought too that its weird as fuck to write it like that here
>>34839946
Yes, I was specifically talking about here.
>>34839940
>>34839954
a^-n = 1/a^n
>>34839722
>guys eat less protein
>i didn't see a loss in size or strength even though i just did it 2-3 days ago
>i also wont be seeing a size or strength increase either
Of all my friends that lift, im the only one that counts macros. I guarantee all my friends are all under and they havn't progressed in about a year. They seem to think this is the strongest they are going to get and they show up less and less each week to the gym.
>>34839957
Really you have never seen anyone write kg^-1? Even I who did not much more than high school chemistry saw that used for chemistry.
>>34839722
>>34839926
>>I think it's bullshit
step up your reading comprehension, senpai
>research backing your claims
I'm not wasting time on a taiwanese imageboard filled with edgelords and teens, nih.gov pubmed is there and you can find all the sources you want about recommended intakes and effects on health; I did research that already
>>34839918
>>34839889
>>34839907
>>34839940
>>34839946
>>34839954
*tips fedora*
>>34839722
Off the top of my head, I'd say the biggest lie is that what you eat matters when losing weight, rather than just how many calories you eat.
Also, the whole eat six small meals a day to crank up your metabolism thing.
>>34839994
Interesting graph, where is it from?
>>34839992
>it was used in high school so im sure its used in the professional setting
lol, pretty cute how dumb you are but you don't even notice. Or you are just trying to be a smart ass.
Show me one peer reviewed study that shows results listed as, "#.unit.#.unit.#.unit"
Its all listed as, "#/unit" format. None of that period thing.
>>34839722
It's all bullshit m8, anything over 200g of protein is completely retarded. And even 200g is a fucking huge amount of proteins. Over 140-150grams is best imo
Also this: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
>>34840009
MS Paint.
>>34840004
>this is my claim but you guys can do your own research
>im right though
>im gonna do that tip fedora meme to solidify my point
lolllllll
>>34840009
>Tarnopolsky et al. (1992) observed no differences in whole body protein synthesis or indexes of lean body mass in strength athletes consuming either 0.64g/lb or 1.10g/lb over a 2 week period. Protein oxidation did increase in the high protein group, indicating a nutrient overload.
>Walberg et al. (1988) found that 0.73g/lb was sufficient to maintain positive nitrogen balance in cutting weightlifters over a 7 day time period.
>Tarnopolsky et al. (1988) found that only 0.37g/lb was required to maintain positive nitrogen balance in elite bodybuilders (over 5 years of experience, possible previous use of androgens) over a 10 day period. 0.45g/lb was sufficient to maintain lean body mass in bodybuilders over a 2 week period. The authors suggested that 0.55g/lb was sufficient for bodybuilders.
>Lemon et al. (1992) found no differences in muscle mass or strength gains in novice bodybuilders consuming either 0.61g/lb or 1.19g/lb over a 4 week period. Based on nitrogen balance data, the authors recommended 0.75g/lb.
>Hoffman et al. (2006) found no differences in body composition, strength or resting hormonal concentrations in strength athletes consuming either 0.77g/lb or >0.91g/lb over a 3 month period.
>>34839722
tRNA is fully charged in sedentary adults at 1.2g/kg
yet a breastfed 6 month old male babby gets 650-980 kcal/day, that's ~1.7-2.56g/kg (including free form amino acids), pretty sure that's the natty limit of protein utilization in humans
interestingly, it fits almost perfectly with Layne Norton's .05g/kg leucine every 4 hours to maximize protein synthesis theory
>>34839992
>g.kg-1.
First off, it doesn't even have that superscript indicator "^" in the original post.
>>34840019
What the fuck are you talking about? How the fuck do you write the units for say for exemple, a speed? m.s^-1 . Don't tell me you've never used this notation in you life if you have done chemistry
>>34840058
It's obviously implied dumbass
>>34840063
m/s
or
m*s^-1
Check the original post dumbass. The superscript is not indicated which got one guy confused as to why a -1 was by a unit. Also, that period shit is not used ever. Its not used by anyone, anywhere, in any publication.
You can try to prove me wrong though.
>>34839722
I usually eat 150g of protein. Don't even count cals though, so I'm definitely in a deficit. What's weird is I'm still getting stronger.
>>34840079
No its not.
And if you think it is then you never written papers or been to any type of scientific community meet. If you don't have your units in proper format, no one is going to take you seriously.
>>34840079
This. Everyone else is retarded. For example, if I write F=m, it should be implied that I mean F=ma!
>>34840085
>It's (fixed that for you) not used by anyone, anywhere in any publication.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1400008
Random publication on the subject, but there are thousands of thousands.
>>34840113
lol, so subtle. I like it.
This is what high school kids don't understand. They think they can do sloppy ass work and hope everyone knows what they mean.
>>34839918
It's "divide by one"
>2015...
>>34840108
Then come back when 4chan integrates LaTeX
>>34840085
For clarification, the Carat sign ^ is used to indicate a unit in the negtive power of something. Eg the size of a bacteria being something like 1^-21 micrograms or some shit. Is this what you guys are going on about?
>>34840122
>what is context
>>34840116
lol pretty cute grammar check.
Its too bad you can't view the full PDF. All you gave me was an abstract typed on a website. Its most likely not listed like that on the actual paper. Like how graphs and tables wont be listed without external links on actual websites. You gotta give me a link to an actual paper where you get PDF view.
It should be easy for you to find another one since there are thousands though.
i used to as well. it's likely a myth perpetuated by the supplement industry, although who knows if that is who originated it. you don't need more than 1g per kg of bodyweight
>>34839991
how much protein are you eaating per lb anon
just curious not hating
i agree with you
>>34840136
1^-21 = .000000000000000000001
mg^-1 = 1/mg
mg -1 = ??mg -1??
>>34839957
You're either bullshitting or... you're bullshitting. Notation like "g cm^-3" is used all the fucking time in chemistry.
>>34839722
>>34839761
Same guy here
Basically I drink about 1g of protein per kg I weigh, and eat the rest. I typically land around 1.5 g of protein per kg I weigh by the time I go to sleep. Just do that and you'll be fine. If you want to get super in-depth about what works best for you, you'll have to experiment with different intakes over 6-8 weeks and chart your growth. Fuck that though
>>34840085
Periods are as valid a notation for multiplication as * on this french cheese critique forum. You don't put little stars for multiply in your papers, do you?
>>34839860
i would think it would concern some. Some sources of protein are high in fat or known to increase cholesterol. perhaps you would want to eat less of those if it meant it wouldn't have an impact on your physique
>>34840143
because the context of the situation makes it absolutely clear that he meant for "-1" to be superscript
>>34840179
Yes it is. But the original poster listed the data as, "g.cm-3."
Ive never seen any data listed with periods and with no ^ to state negative powers.
>>34840038
>literally too lazy to do a Google research
You're just proving how stupid you are
>>34840183
Well i can't argue that anything is valid here. lol.
You right, i shouldn't be so anal about format on a site like this. Im just not used to dealing with sloppy work.
>>34840183
>Periods are as valid a notation for multiplication as *
LMAO ·
>>34840216
>OP doesn't want to provide citations
>calls other lazy for not providing citations
lolllllllllllllllllllllllllll!
>>34840183
no they aren't you shitstain. nobody knows what the fuck you mean when you use a period but it's universally understood when you use a *
>>34840179
Did you even read what you replied to?
He's obviously seen negative exponents. He's saying he's never seen "kg-1" to denote "kg^-1". Or whatever that weirdo dot format was
>>34840116
>doesnt understand translation errors
I weigh 105kg ~18% bf and eat 50-80g of protein per day.
My squat went up from 200 to 240kg so far since january. I am on a recomp.
I do have binge protein days where ill get over 200 but i also have days i eat nothing.
While we have very little evidence suggesting that protein intake in exess of 2g/kg bodyweight/day leads to increased protein synthesis, a diet consisting of high protein can be helpful in reducing fat mass and making it easier to stick to diet totaling lower in energy, possibly due to increased satiety and the body requiring more energy to digest protein than carbs/fat. Also, fewer carbs(particularly the processed kind) also reduces risk for t2 diabetes etc.
Besides, the body knows how to use proteins to drive the metabolism anyhow, so everything gets used.
this anon; studying to become an RD.
>>34840171
Your deduction there is correct. Other guy should see for explaination
>>34839840
This.
Total calories are the most important thing, then adequate carbs, then protein.
I hope to live to see the day when this high protein rubbish is gone forever.
>>34840271
How tall are you?
>>34840183
>1.3.5
>could be 1.3*5
>or 1*3.5
>or 1*3*5
>valid
maybe for womyn studies
>>34840279
>then adequate carbs
Hahahahahahahahahahaha, vegan you're not as subtle as you think you are.
>>34840183
You have no idea what you're talking about huh
>>34840239
>>34840230
In applied mathematics a notation similar to a period is used, it's • but is easily mistaken as a period. Eg 3•5=15
>>34840296
>implying you can eat protein and sit around all day and make gains.
>implying carbs and activity level isn't more important than protein intake
fuck off anon, fuck right off
>>34840303
That's a lot different than what the original retard was trying to do
>>34840289
>>34840301
Idiots you obviously don't use it with numbers.
Anyway mea culpa I guess this notation is only used in my country which is reputed for its weird math notations.
>>34840314
idk maybe im an idealist but i think omitting the caret for exponents isn't the worst idea i've ever seen. maybe better than all the explicit parenthesis and vomitous mess people make trying to be clear about the meaning of their expressions on text boards.
>>34840303
I have never mistaken that bold dot like that as a period. And also ive seen the same character as an actual dot but its not placed in a area where it indicates the end of a sentence.
I have mistaken the character for the function composition as multiplication though. But even that is formatted in a way to make the function of the character not ambiguous
>>34840314
The original guy probably doesn't know the ASCII code for • I he's on a computer. It's on iPhone keyboard by default which is why I can use it.
My lecturers have also used a period as a valid mathematical operator and it is interchangeable but rarely used.
What about who wants to cut?
>>34840311
>tries to tie in activity level with carbs to pretend that they're not a vegan shill spreading misinformation
>thinking that anybody actually buys your baseless bullshit
Did you get tired of being BTFO when you made shilling threads so now you settle for invading other people's threads?
>>34839907
>>34839918
Lol, these are kids who get points off their exams because they can't into notation or units
>>34840392
Something like 1/x can be expressed as x^-1 iirc. He could be mistaken in his use. Im doubting a majority of /fit/ does much to do with mid-higher levels of mathematics.
>>34840344
It's a bretty bad idea because it literally looks like subtraction. Notation that easily changes meaning 100% without context given is bad
>>34840356
Im sure your lecturer doesn't place the period in a area to indicate decimal point or ending sentence though.
>>34839722
say your getting just 150g protein a day
your obviously going to fill the rest up with fat and protein
but i read and was told that your body only needs a certain amount of carbs to refill glycogen stores, use as energy and after that it is just stored as fat
and i was told the amount you need is somewhere around 250g a day
would you then just fill the huge caloric gap with fat?
looking for genuine answers not just people calling me stupid and a faggot
>>34840434
>your instead of you're
you're stupid and a faggot
>>34840392
More like these are kids who are still in high school and thinks they know more about formatting.
>>34840446
nice thank you for that
>>34840434
stupid faggot
but seriously, that's pretty much broscience. Your body is constantly using glucose as energy and your glycogen stores are usually always topped off unless you're an endurance runner. At rest your body is actually oxidizing more fat for metabolism than carbs because it's more efficient at rest to use fat as an energy source.
There is a lot of research out there on "optimal" protein intake for athletes and the only real thing they agree on is that you need a little more than the RDA of 60g of protein. There is a point at which increasing your protein intake above a certain threshold causes diminishing returns but there is no standard as to what that is. Getting 250g of protein is a bit much though.
I rather 1g per lb of lean body mass. If you're 250 lbs with 35% bf, you shouldn't be consuming so much protein until you cut down on the fat
>>34840473
thanks for the real reply man
Honestly, people overestimate their lean muscle mass
If you are eating over 100g a day, you will simply shit out most of it
>>34840418
Yeah I'm nitpicking them because they didn't put the carrot "^"
Also writing x^-1 instead of 1/x is autistic as fuck only a tryhard 17 year old would do that.
>>34839722
>A picture trying to say "hurrrrr durrrr it's a lie"
>doesn't provide any evidence
>no supporting study
>just a plain picture trying to be persuasive
Ok it's very convinceble
No
Fuck off
>>34840428
Lecturers*
I have had a few of them do it over the years so I know it isn't just defined to one lecturer. Textbooks and most other resources do dictate the middle dot over the period. At this point we are arguing semantics and derailing a thread.
>>34840548
its been derailed since the guy listed data in the weird format.
>>34840524
Carat*. Your babby is showing, go back and eat your carrots and improve your eyesight and spelling.
They use the substitution of 1/x to x^-1 all the fucking time in grown up university dissertation land.
>implying 17 year olds even know the reasoning and mathematic principals behind this
Again, your babby is showing. You're making a fool of only yourself at this rate.
>>34840524
lolllllllll.
Wait until you get to college, you will change your mind. Or you might still have the same opinion cause you are too stupid to understand why you are wrong.
>>34839819
That picture is bullshit. Calories are not a metric unit, Joules are. What is one Joule? The amount of energy it takes to accelerate 1 kg by 1 m/(s*s) for 1 meter. Wow. So totally useful. Not.
And really, how often do you ask yourself "How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon[/liter] of water?"? Never. And for everything else but water, none of those quantities are related.
You could make up an equal argument of why the imperial system is superior to the metric system. Despite everything, both unit systems are arbitrary as fuck. The only real thing metric has going for it is base 10.
>>34840131
/sci/ has LaTeX. You could bugger that japanese guy to implement it for all of 4chan. Maybe he'll done it if you are convincing enough.
>>34840721
oh neat I didn't know
I only browse /fit/
>>34839929
Yeah, I agree that's it's kinda weird to type it out like that if you can't use superscripts. My professors use it all the time but I didnt recognize it here either, so we should cut the other anon some slack.
>>34840721
Wait... They implemented LaTeX? When?
>>34840794
I don't know since when.
>>34840296
for an athlete, which I am and your not, carbs are by far the most important thing.
protein on its own does nothing for muscle synthesis. resistance training both promotes and conserves muscle tissue.
even in the short term, resisitnace training will conserve muscle tissue in teh absence of protein.
>>34839722
Where did all these /sci/ autists come from? Were they always a part of /fit/?
>>34840834
Where do you think all the research on lifting came from?
>>34840834
I can tell you didnt read SS or any other fitness related book.
>>34840644
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with M/D/Y, because the highest number for month is lower than the highest number for day.
>>34840580
>>34840635
God you are such tryhard college kids.
>reasoning and mathematical principals
Look, NOBODY FUCKING CARES that you can write 1 g/lb as 1g lb^-1. One of them is conventional and one of them is autistic.
Go to a grocery store, you will see food labeled as $3/lb because that's how it's done in the real adult world (not the college freshman physics world)
>>34840386
Not that guy but holy shit you're retarded
>>34841037
The arm you use to wash most of your back in the shower is more flexible.
>>34840644
>The amount of energy it takes to accelerate 1 kg by 1 m/(s*s) for 1 meter. Wow. So totally useful
it is actually
>>34840644
have you ever taken a college-level science or engineering class? There is a reason that everyone groans at the Imperial system
>>34841084
literally just constants though it's not too bad
>>34840979
this desu, it's like using orthogonal in place of right angled in a non academic context
just pretentious
>>34840979
Its written like that in a lot of articles.
Dont be so autistic and think just cause people disagree with you that they are stupid. Both are correct, no ambiguity in either.
>>34840022
Fuck senpai, that hit too close to home.
>mfw everything I do is to make my dad proud
>>34840979
$3/kg*
Mate
>>34841114
Its cause normal people wouldn't understand. It has to be written in a way that people with high school education can read it.
But yeah, it should be written in g/L way here on /fit/. Majority of /fit/ are high school kids
>>34841186
convention outside academic is writing g/lb, or km/h or whatever
stick to the fucking conventions lads
>>34841197
>g/lb or km/h
LOL!
more like
>per pound and mi/h
People here in America are too stupid to learn metrics so the rest of the world should stop being so autistic and stick to the master race american convention.
>>34841274
Did you just say miles per hectare?
I'm equally laughing and crying
>>34840171
1^-21 = 1
dumbo
>>34839846 bayesianbodybuilding.com/eric-helms-protein/
>>34840644
Calorie is a metric unit, it just isn't an SI official unit.
>68kg bw
>ate 280g protein today
>mfw
I'm a fraud tho
>>34840045
Babies are fucking bulking machines, they put on mass more efficiently than even the most extremely roided guy imaginable.
Serious question:
What's a good basic introduction textbook about nutrition for bodybuilders/lifters?
I'm talking like the most basic fundamental mainstream advice. But also something that's current. For example I feel like meal timing has been debunked, so the book wouldn't push meal timing but also wouldn't necessarily be too caught up in fads and minor nuances.
>>34841457
renaissance diet
>>34841466
Thanks for the info, but not exactly what I'm looking for. In fact, that doesn't even seem to be a book. It's just a link to crossfit and juggernaut fitness blogs.
I'm looking for something like Arnold's, "New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding" but not 15 years out of date.
>>34840826
>implying guzzling cum makes you an athlete
>still sidestepping the fact that you absolutely do need protein to build muscles as well as conserve them
Post your body then, Mr. "Athlete". I'm sure your no protein diet did wonderful things for your gains.
![Shippo-Screencap-shippo-6641878-640-480[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TFUjDJe.jpg "Shippo-Screencap-shippo-6641878-640-480[1].jpg")
/fit/ - Scientific Notation
>>34841517
learn to google you dumb shit it is a book
Shit, I'm taking over 340 grams a day, and I'm 170 lbs.
Without supplements that's still over 230 grams.
>>34841592
haha look at this jabrony wasting his money on protein
>>34839722
I thought 1g per lb of lean body mass was good while cutting ?
>>34841580
If it's not on amazon then it's a shit book and not something relevant.
Sorry if you're the author of said shit book, or one of the author's fanboys or something. But come on, plug it in amazon and see.
>>34841679
you are a dumb shit
>>34840171
No faggot, 1 * 10^-21 =
.000000000000000000001
Did you miss that day in 8th grade?
>>34841704
So it is an actual book then? If so you can provide the ISBN?
If it doesn't have an ISBN then it's not an actual book.
>>34841781
no just going to keep calling you a dumb shit instead of linking it which was what i was going to do initially
>>34839722
200g of protein per day is considered high and can damage your kidneys actually.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein/
>In the United States, the recommended daily allowance of protein is 46 grams per day for women over 19 years of age, and 56 grams per day for men over 19 years of age.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18577776
>adequate dietary protein intake for those over the age of 19 of ~0.8-0.9 g protein.kg body weight
>one might conclude that any debate on protein "requirements" for athletes is inconsequential
https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/protein
>0.84 g/kg for adult men
>It is likely that protein intake at the upper end of the RDI range can help maintain muscle mass and strength
>between 200 and 400 g per day is high protein.
http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S0899-9007(04)00099-1/abstract
>The only situation where dietary protein requirements exceed those for relatively sedentary individuals is in top sport athletes where the maximal requirement is ∼1.6 gPRO/kg/d.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24027183
>The recommended range of protein intake of 1.2-1.8 g · kg (- 1) · d (- 1) can be extended to the warfighter.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22150425
>protein intakes in the range of 1.3-1.8 g · kg(-1) · day(-1) consumed as 3-4 isonitrogenous meals will maximize muscle protein synthesis
>experienced athletes would require less
http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/82/1/41.short
>An increase in dietary protein from 15% to 30% of energy at a constant carbohydrate intake... results in significant weight loss.
I'm all with you OP
>>34841798
I guess I'll stick with Arnold's new encyclopedia book then.
If anyone else has any recs for books, actual books not youtube clips of some spergtard that's a security guard by day and bro-curls every night then please post them.
>>34841592
kidney failure is in your future
>>34841580
Not the dude you're arguing with, but it's not a book brah. I googled it you dumb shit and it's just the blog, I went over to books and there's nada
>>34839722
>>34839819
1.5g/kg of LBM dummy
>>34841898
to be technical it's an ebook
>>34841963
Why couldn't you say that, desu? You still sound like the shill author, but i'm interested in this book just to see if the diet is moldy bread and sewer rats.
>>34841990
i was too busy calling you a dumb shit
check the /plg/ link in the OP, it's hiding in there somewhere
basically goes through nutrients for dummies applied to lifting, ie carbs do this and that but not this
>>34841830
nice
But it's not just the minimum amount of a macro you get right? I always thought that in order of importance:
calorie surplus/deficit
macro balance
And, if protein isn't bad for you, then wouldn't consuming more, ceteris paribus, mean that the portion of your diet coming from carbs/fats have to decrease?
And couldn't that hold benefits for those seeking to build lean muscle mass?
>>34841911
It's not bait
This is the worst thread I have seen in a while.
>>34841457
Alan Aragon's "The Lean Muscle Diet" and anything by Lyle McDonald.
Meal timing hasn't been debunked either, it's just easier than obsessed people make it out to be.
http://www.jissn.com/content/10/1/5
How is it even possible anyway?
2 eggs in the morning - 24grams
shake- 36grams
chicken breast and protein-rich salad for lunch - 30 grams
shake- 36grams
lean meat of choice +whatever for dinner = 30 grams
=156
if you weigh over 160 how the fuck do you get 1:1 ratio without drinking 3 shakes, and if you weigh more than 190 how do you do it without 4?
>>34843929
You realize you can eat more than 3 meals? Sometimes I just eat some dry meat (60g) for snack which is like 25g protein.
>>34841830
None of your sources supported your claim you retarded vegan kuck.
>>34843929
That's honestly a lot for you? Just a half pound of pork loin is over fifty grams of protein for less than four hundred calories. Four eggs with tuna plus the pork puts me at 150 grams without coming anywhere near my maintenance (3500 calories). Either you're a sedentary manlet or you just can't into nutrition.
You cunts are going to be arguing about how many days are in a week soon
>>34844320
>maintenance (3500 calories)
you are literally 250 pounds and trying to give nutrition advice
>>34844418
Try 185
>>34844320
>maintenance (3500 calories)
kek
Lemme guess, you're a "powerlifter", right? :)
>>34839889
1.4-1.8g per kg of your body weight.
>>34844320
>near my maintenance (3500 calories)
I recommend a diet fatass
>>34844418
>>34844431
>>34844526
Dude, I know you're a fag and a vegan so you samefag without hesitation, but at least try to make it seem believable.
I'm 205lb at 6' 1" by the way.
>>34841170
That image is bs lmao. Tell me that you have never made fun of another stranger for something, or thought less of them because of how they look, dress, or act.
It's so cute when naturals try to eat huge amounts of protein thinking it'll make them significantly bigger than dudes who casually lift and eat 50-100g a day
Enjoy the kidney stones
>>34844609
kek
I'm not any of these two other people. But honestly I don't care what you believe. Either you're a professional athlete or you're just retarded and not maintaining.
>>34844609
>205lb at 6'1''
>maintenance at 3500 calories
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>>34840644
>>34844320
>my maintenance (3500 calories)
Get a checkup at the doctor. You might have a tapeworm.
>>34841404
if you're roiding and that tiny you are doing something seriously wrong
>>34844686
It's only because drugged out scamming 'fitness' models promote that garbage and notion. The only thing that's cute is how easily supp companies dupe impressionable young men who simply want to look good. And what's cute is how pussy drugs users will never admit their on the magic elixir because that tit would dry up for them and where else can they cash in on bullshit.
That's all very cute, isn't it.
Pic related, a merchant of cute things
>>34840979
>how it's done in the real adult world
only in burgerland.
and burger scientists use the metric system too.
>>34844707
Sure you aren't, buddy.
>>34844762
>What is exercise
Anybody with a maintenance under 3000 is either a manlet or is sedentary as fuck.
>>34842276
No.. NO GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE WITH YOUR COMMON SENSE.
>>34839946
That means something totally different in a RegEx expression.
A good review of relevant studies:
http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/
Take this together with other studies showing that you can't absorb more than 20-30 g protein from a single meal.
Of course, there is a way to beat these numbers: steroids and possibly myostatin inhibitor.
>>34847641
Why even bother? Fags here can't even tell their sed from their awk.
>>34840644
heat equal to the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree Celsius.
Hmmm I could be wrong but there is no non metric units used at all
>>34840216
TEACH ME ABOUT THE WAGE GAP TOO SENPAI
WHOOOOOOOO
