I’m curious why people on /fit/ aren’t really into straight edge. Thought maybe I’d start an official /straightedge/ thread.
>Basic rules: No Drinking Alcohol, No Drugs, No Smoking.
I’m not going to be an articulate spokesman for it, but here are a few elements: clean living, bodily and mental purity, having control.
The song that started it all: “Straight Edge” by Minor Threat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMybxAoSvS8
Here are the most compelling things TO ME that I want to share:
>Taking life seriously
Alcohol is straight up bad for you. Next morning, you wake up and feel like shit. Why poison yourself with alcohol and cigarettes, giving your money to people who really want to watch you die, just because other people are too boring to be able to have fun without it? Or because you’re too scared to talk to a girl without liquid courage? Seriously, nut up and do things on your own. Anything else ain’t natty.
>True rebellion
Right now, being straight edge seems like the most punk rock thing to do. Whether it's a bunch of chads chugging brewskis or lame ass bitches on tinder talking about drinking wine on a friday night like it's the funniest inside joke ever, most people get fucked up. If you don’t want to be like most people, this is a good place to start. Seriously, look out for how often people talk about drinking just because they have nothing else to say, it’s a fucking joke.
>Toughness
It’s not about abstaining from drinking/drugs out of a place of fear like some ‘drugs r bad’ PSA. I’ve been drunk countless times and done lots of drugs. It’s that I can cope in the real world without getting fucked out of my mind. Most people are just dealing with their loneliness in a way they think looks cool, hoping someone else will come and love them so they can stop drinking/doing drugs.
>Positive Living
A lot of straight edge is negative; no drinking, drugs etc, but it’s mostly a positive movement. It’s about living your best life, getting outside even if it’s hard. Sticking up for yourself and making your own choices, even if that means changing yourself. I’ve never heard music with lyrics like these. Songs like Wake up and Live by Youth of Today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmbc5r7zMk8) or Stand Still by Gorilla Biscuits (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrVeg2KELiU) about the life-sucking power of TV (even more apt in the netflix age).
edgefags are worse than vegans
/AutismGeneral/
Drinking and smoking is fun once in a blue moon though lighten the fuck up you autist.
Because straight edge kids are fucking obnoxious, shit up every show they go to (worse than the skinheads), and most become alcoholics when they turn 21, kill yourself kid.
At that point you might as well become a Mormon tbqh
I think it's cool. Respect.
I quit drinking and doing drugs because i had to. Because i was too weak to their charm. A sickly sweet poison that almost consumed me.
I'm not proud, i'm weak. So are you
>>37857387
After i quit drinking and smoking i got so much more motivation i started working out and now have no urge to do either because they have detrimental effects on my state of mind.
>>37857387
>>37857440
I don't think a straightedge lifestyle would allow me to continue sucking down workout supplements.
Also I like beer.
>>37857387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FasooTugheQ
>>37857387
in theory it sounds logical but in reality such people are usually just like the drug addicts. all of the straight edge people don't shut up about it and as everything which you should be doing "for yourself" becomes something which you identify with way too much and act superior which is a major turn off for the majority of social relations.
Chill guy: I don't drink or smoke, thanks though.
Complete autist: STRAIGHT EDGE LIFE X X
>>37857387
>mfw gay straight edge
>>37857645
this to be honest my family
i like this song though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aZmmzlRPTY
Straight Edge means no sex, but you probably aren't getting any anyway, you just need an excuse.
To each their own.
>>37857658
Kek
>>37857666
WEEEEELLLLLL
>>37857651
Sounds like an Anal Cunt song.
I don't consider myself straight edge because at times I will enjoy a drink but I've stopped smoking my e-cig, cigarettes, and weed despite the fact I have a medicinal card.
It's really helped me motivate myself on other things in my life, including working out and watching my macros hardcore.
Not to say people cannot do it if they smoke and drink, I'm just implying I cannot.
if you choose to not drink, smoke or do drugs then fine, it's an admirable life choice. but when you start using that decision to develop some kind of superiority complex over anyone who lives differently then you're doing it wrong
personally i'm trying to quit drinking due to the horrible long term health outcomes of [heavy] drinking and its negative effect on cognition and neurogenesis. i can't just stop at a few drinks, i always have 12+ once i start, and i do this a few times a week. so yeah, i need to stop before it gets out of hand
Vegetarian here.
Have always wanted to be straight edge but im too old to really care about this stuff now. When you get older you learn how to moderate it naturally so you don't even think about it being an issue when you have control.
I still have complete respect for the entire ideology and all that though.
I only drink once every six months so im virtually edge.
>>37857402
>it's le horrible hangover maymay episode
Treat alcohol like you would treat food. Nobody thinks it's normal to down 20 cheeseburgers in one sitting. You should not drink 20 shots either.
>>37857387
While I live a straight edge lifestyle I don't see why some people shill so hard for it.
I don't drink because I used to be an alcoholic and I don't do drugs because they could fuck up my life and career. I workout because it's fun. With that said plenty of people can go out and drink or smoke on the weekends with little to no downsides.
If they see a net positive utility exchange why not pursue those hobbies.
Idk, str8 edgers are too much like vegans/atheists for my taste. Any hyper vocal minority that insists that everyone should be just like them is shit in my book.
if you really are fit this lifestyle should be fucking normal. If you drink, smoke and do drugs, you are not fit
>>37857387
I live by this lifestyle, both mentally this is superior. But also...strangely biologically. At least for alcohol. It has become one of them drugs that does not affect my mood anymore. The other drugs are also kinda moot.
My mind has become nulled to their effects, and my spirit has discarded their needs. I have been completely straight (with only two nights where I drank two beers to see if they could work in socializing in bars) for two years. In two years I basically only drank 5 beers...
In the last 2 months...zero. No other drugs for many years.
and it doesnt feel bad at all. I dont think that at this point I even have the smallest of chances to change. Straightedge 4 liefe
>>37857729
I have found this only to be a superiority reality in shitty countries that have high alcoholism. Slav nations specifically...
If you dont smoke, dont drink and dont use drugs there. You are basically automatically within the top 20% of all males, without even working on your body...
Recently I met with some tourist from that area, manager of many people, decent salary. Apparently he more or less is normal for that nation...the thing is, when he asked me if he could drink I thought "yea sure, people drink all the time here sometimes in the weekend at the evening." But to them, drinking sometimes meant being drunk 90% of their waking hours.
So...if you are a straight edge over there, it will probably add a +3 to your attractiveness over there.
Here in the west its a lot smaller, almost non existent advantage as you put it though. People here have extremely high resistance against just being alcoholics.
I'm straight edge but not because I'm on some sort of moral high horse (I'm literally an alcoholic).
106 days with no booze. feels good man. lots of energy
>>37857868
>I have been completely straight
That's funny, because from your post i'd of guessed you were homosex.
I don't have an addictive personality and can actually control what I do so I'll drink and smoke if I want to.
>>37857387
been sober for 364 days bro. definitely feeling the benfits bodily, mentally, and spiritually. I don't miss it at all.
It's not for everyone, but I completely agree with>>37857402 especially about drinking because people are fucking boring. I finally realized if I feel the need to drink to endure someone's company, I just shouldn't hang out with them.
>>37857402
>alcohol is straight up bad for you
>doesn't know what moderation is
What are you 12?
>>37857387
>I’m curious why people on /fit/ aren’t really into straight edge
Long-long-long-time straightedgefag here. I can tell you why: because if you have 0 connection to the hardcore punk scene why the fuck would you be? Straight edge only makes sense in the context of hardcore punk. See, punk did and to does (but I would say arguably to a lesser degree in 2016 than it did in 1986) have a strong undercurrent of self destructive nihilism often fueled by drugs and alcohol. Straight edge was and is a reaction to that. At its core is the belief that you don't have to be a useless shithead heroin addict to be punk. I mean you can be, but you don't HAVE to be. That idea ran pretty counter to what a lot of the early punks -who weren't too into the later hardcore punk scene- thought. And at the same time it's somewhat of a rejection of the larger culture's attitude that you have to be drunk to be sociable. Although that component of it is much less important.
I love Youth of Today, so don't get me wrong here, but the whole positive living thing is probably the least important part of it and was really only a thing because of the somewhat cult of personality that surrounded Ray Cappo and the youth crew scene in NYC/Connecticut. I take it about as serious as I take Crucial Youth (my copy of the "Crucial Yule" 7" is one of my prized possessions for real though).
>>37857440 is correct. Assuming you've never been to a punk show in your life you should just be honest and admit that you're no different than a super conservative Christian.
"In My Eyes" is probably the only straight edge song that really actually gets at the heart of it.
>>37857387
I binge drink and chain smoke once or twice a year. No real negatives cause it's just one time per year. Straight edge seems too try hard
Any of you poofs got any tips for quitting smoking?
I don't drink or smoke and I don't consider myself straight edge. Straight edge is such a faggot term
>tfw you used to smoke weed daily, but don't smoke ever anymore
>tfw you used to smoke cigs daily, but now do so only once in a blue moon and only when someone else pulls out a smoke and you ask to bum one for a laff
>tfw you've never had a problem with drinking and do so literally once every 2 months or less
No need for rigid straightedgery when you're prefect like me :)
>>37858145
I smoked for 4 years, switched to vape for a week, then smoked for 3 days, then stopped in the afternoon one day after like 5 cigs that day. First 5 days were kinda difficult. I got a little depressed actually and thought about going to the store and picking some up constantly. Just kept myself busy and eventually it got better.
>So try that method
gl man, difficult but very possible.
Sorry mate, I really like the taste of beer. I split a 6 pack every weekend with my soon to be father in law and play catch. It's awesome.
>>37858029
>If you drink this poison in moderation it won't do you any harm bro
>But why hte fuck am I drinking poison in the first place?
>>37857387
Because it's applying a fucking stupid as shit label to a simple thing that doesn't need a label.
Why the fuck would anyone 'be really into streight edge", if it's just a hipster faggot way of saying "not into poisons and psychodelics".
Do you sheep really need a catchy name to do shit?
>>37858285
Because it's an inhibition removing depressant that's also a social ritual AND tastes good?
>>37857402
>drugs
>most people are just dealing with loneliness
Fuck m8 this hit me too hard
Sounds pretty fucking boring.
>no drugs, no alchohol, no smoking
The problem with having such clearly defined rules is that they're easier for some people to follow than others. An easy example is someone straight edge but who's a fat fuck, but of course that doesn't exist on this board mostly.
The point is, you can be theoretically straight edge and still be "guilty". The "no drugs, alcohol, etc" rule is actually just very arbitrary.
Me for example I've never in my life had alchohol, or done any recreational drugs. But I've never had sex either. The reason I'm straight edge is because I'm a loser, not because I'm a paragon of will and virtue.
A striaght-edger could easily have a soul more disgusting than the worst addicts and hedonists.
>>37857387
>smoke cigarettes and drink heavily 3-4 times a week, still look better than 80% of /fit/.
I mean, if you are genetically prone to getting ill from either of these things then dont do it. If youre strong and can lead a healthy life while doing the things you enjoy, then dont let any straight edge beta tell you how to live. Simple as that.
Some people cant be healthy while smoking and/or drinking. Its up to you to determine whether your genetics enable you to thrive doing these types of things or not.
>pic relates, new years cut
>drinking and doing drugs since the age of 15
>>37857387
Go fuck yourself straight edge tightwad piece of shit. Stop fucking sitting back and judging everyone around you you little bitch. Come fight me irl see what you got you little pussy get fuckt bitch your mom sucks dick at night litlte whore bitch.
Come at me bro I live at 857 Go Fuck Yourself Ave.
Bitch ass punk ass NYUKAAAAAAAAAA IM DRUNK RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU GONNA DO HUH? ALSO IM OFF THAT STICKY ICKY ICKY BEEEEEEEEEEEEYITCH>
>>37857387
>he arbitrarily groups together alcohol and cigarettes
>smoking to any degree is harmful
>moderate alcohol consumption is actually beneficial
>mild drinking is completely benign
i have about 3 servings of alcohol a week on average. no lost gains, no hangover, decreased risk of cardiovascular disease, and i get to enjoy interesting new wines and beers. alcohol is like any other substance -- huge amounts of it are poisonous, but a little is fine.
>>37858285
Poison is made by dosage and dosage only. With that idiotic logic, why do you drink water? If you drank 20 lts you'd die, so it's poison, right? Fucking idiot.
>>37858494
>jan16.jpg
Ahahahaha
why the fuck would anyone want to be straight edge. you're not pure you're just boring. everything in moderation including moderation
>>37858494
Being muscular doesn't automatically equate to being healthy, dude. Smoking and heavy drinking are objectively unhealthy, no matter how shredded you are.
>>37857645
Chill dude: ok, cool, bro.
Complete autist: WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU WANT TO SMOKE A JOINT? FUCK YOU.
>>37857387
Can I count as straight edge if I smoke marijuana a couple times a year and drink alcohol on my birthday and on New Years?
>>37858285
>not knowing most basic principle of toxicology
dose makes the poision
>>37858494
>being afraid of squats
I'm so glad this whole SE thing is bound to the anglosphere.
Over here you have abstinent people, but they're not insufferable counts about it.
>>37859799
>I'm so glad this whole SE thing is bound to the anglosphere.
It isn't though
Especially in Eastern Europe it's really popular
>>37858145
I just quit multiple times over 3 years and one time it stuck. I think it's because I broke the addiction after quitting so many times I realized it was a habit like picking my nose as a child and just gave it up.
>>37857387
>No Drinking Alcohol, No Drugs, No Smoking
that's called common sense, not straight edge. Well maybe apart from casual alcohol drinking. But I don't do that much either. Only occasions I drink a bit are Christmas and such.
>>37857387
It has nothing to do with morality. It has everything to do with health, performance, and recovery.
Your body can take up to 72 hours to rid itself of alcohol and it's effects, and in that time it's dehydrating you and sabotaging your body's ability to recover from a workout, so you're literally sabotaging your gains.
Smoking is just plain bad. There are NO positive effects of smoking. You're just plain dumb if you smoke anything for any reason whatsoever.
Most illegal drugs throw your entire body out of balance, and many are addictive. How can that possibly be good for your health and gains? Additionally if you're involved in any competitive sports, most illegal drugs can get you disqualified if discovered you're using them. Why take the risk for a cheap high? Also with strong stimulants there is a big risk of doing permanent damage to yourself, or if you're really pushing yourself, literally dropping dead. Why do that to yourself?
>>37857743
You have to moderate dat dere steaks (or at least dairy) intake, brah. Otherwise you won't gain any quality muscles.
>>37859861
The only acceptable "drugs" are performance enhancing ones.
Modafinil/adrafinil, roids, peptides, whatever else
Recreational drugs are for faggots
Straight edge fags are on the same tier as weeabos, and for the same reason.
OH LOOK AT ME GUYZ. IM STRAIGHT EDGE AND IM BETTER THAN ALL OF YOU
>>37857387
I dont do any of those, does it mean l'm a fitness god
>>37859774
No.
>>37859874
>LSD and shrooms are super fun, can have massive positive effects, virtually no health risks
>"haha yeah, recreational drugs are just for faggots though"
>>37859861
You speak in such vague terms with so many weasel words it's like an argument in favor of channeling your chi.
Such black and white thinking, commonly associated with extremists, autists, and retards.
You're all three.
I respect your decision to not have anything harder than caffeine in your life, but you guys are as obnoxious as vegans. Nothing like a sanctimonious prick to drive you away from an ideology.
>>37859958
>Wasting time and money on getting high when you could be working on getting somewhere in life
>Buying questionable substances off the internet/in person because "xD i want to see cool things hehehehe"
>>37859999
>having fun in life
>"haha how stupid"
fucking idiot
>>37857946
loli, you're getting closer to my favourite every comment
>>37860061
>needing drugs to have funin life
it's really sad desu
>>37859999
>Wasting time and money on getting high when you could be working on getting somewhere in life
It's not one or the other, loser.
>>37860061
>He needs to take drugs in order to have fun
That's pretty sad to be quite honest
>>37860082
The time you spend high and the time you spend working towards earning money to get high is a complete waste of time. You're just a faggot who needs drugs and think he's cool because he never grew out of highschool
>>37858037
i dont even like punk, but as a fellow music nerd fixated on specific subcultures, you obv know your shit
>ITT: Autists lash out on feeling their identity threatened, trolls pretend to be both autistic and regular joe laughing at autistic
Just like old times.
>>37860075
>>37860091
when the fuck did I say I needed drugs to have fun? Are you reading a post in a parallel dimension? I never said that and what I wrote doesn't even suggest that. this is the problem with most people they have no basic grasp of logic.
drugs sometimes being fun =/= need drugs to have fun
>>37859999
Quads of faggotry
>>37857387
I did the SE life for 4 or 5 years since I was 17 then quit. I'm 34yo dadfag now.
The thing about SE -from my POV- is that one ends up as an edgelord judging other people's lifes and too often knocking other people's 'door' with SEphilosophy like vegans or mormons do.
IMHO -and having been no that train- if someone NEEDS a set of straight rules to teach you how to live there's a problem to be solved.
Don't get me wrong if the choice is SE vs trashy YOLO I would pick SE. But that scenario isn't real as no one is forced to choose one of these two extremes.
One last thing. SE finds it's population on young males, often outcasts or angry about the world. There's really too few older guys that keep on SE for life after that phase. That probably means something.
Good luck young brehs any path you take in life.
>>37857387
Because I'm in my 30s. Wearing your beliefs like a uniform or costume is cjildish bullshit. Live and let die, you little shit.
To me alcohol tastes bad, I can handle a nice bottle of cider with dinner at a restaurant but anymore just isn't nice plus its expensive and large amounts really don't agree with me
prob would try some weed but I'm not too fussed
smoking is prob the number 1 most retarded thing ever, expensive makes you stink and kills you
>>37858494
Your body must be fucked internally.
>clear steroid user
>smokes heavily
>drinks heavily
Really don't even want to know how badly your liver is fucked up. I really hope you aren't stupid enough to be taking orals.
>>37860205
very well said
>>37858037
Really weird that the US HC punk scene is so much into straight edge. Straight edge people have always been the tiniest minority ever in Europe's scene.
> clean living, bodily and mental purity, having control.
I would argue psychedelic use would help with these, especially having mental clarity.
I'm talking about stuff like LSD, shrooms, and DMT.
Fuck op, some of us do drugs for the same reasons human beings have been doing them since the beginning of time, some people do them to just party and get fucked up and have fun, some people like myself use them as a tool for Introspection and insight, if straight edge fags would get off their high horse you might actually attract some decent followers and not a group base of edgy teens and a handful of pussy adults
>>37860091
You're insufferable. Some shrooms should cheer you up, you reverse degenerate
Hate to break it to you straight edge faggots but pretty much every aspect of your life you like as in movies, music, art, entertainment, fashion... You name it... The people that created them "REEEEEEEAAAALLLY fucking high on drugs"
>>37859772
t. autist
No one does that, you basement dweller.
>>37857402
Not drinking, not smoking and not doing drugs is fine. It's pretty awesome even. But giving yourself a label "yeah im straight edge" is just lame. It doesnt make you a rebel, tougher or make you take life more seriously what a load of crap. Apperently ive been straight edge for almost 20 goddamn years (not anymore tho I enjoy wine now but still never smoked or did drugs) and I never knew what it was. I just lived the way I saw fit.
>>37857387
I'm straight edge, you're not alone in this board OP
>>37859999
Wow yeah like you're working on getting somewhere by shitposting here.
>>37857450
Speak for yourself faggot
The only acceptable drugs are psychedelics. You get mad mental gains out of them, that is If you are not a dumb fucking retard about using them. Once or twice a year is enough.
>>37858494
You're like Zyzz minus the charisma and the top-tier aesthetics
Does dat dere celltech count as
>drugs
OP?
>>37859774
Fortune has turned itself from you, for alas - you cannot. Indeed, you'll have to forgo being an extremist, absolutist faggot
>>37860365
I came here just to post this. It's really fucking stupid to identify yourself by it.
![SS_Black_Sun[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/EFA1rmG.jpg "SS_Black_Sun[1].jpg")
Who here NS but not straight edge?
>>37857790
this, no one said you had to get shit faced every time you drink
>>37857402
>most people are just dealing with loneliness
well you got me, I guess I have to be straightedge now
>at party
>think about getting a drink
>realise lats still haven't recovered
>don't drink
Am I helping my recovery or just being autistic
I used to know a straightedge bible fag, I introduced him to weed and within 2 months he was doing PCP n shit. He is probably dead now.
>>37861121
Ten years from now you might have remembered having a good time at a party with people possibly getting laid... I can guarantee you will not remember the night you let your lats recover...
>>37861335
You can enjoy parties without getting drunk
>>37861260
>be innacollege
>meet straightlaced Mormon guy, really prudish, not even the slightest interested in mischief
>my buddies and I somehow convince him to drink a beer
>this led to him drinking another beer
>and then another
>and then he starts crying
>and then we convince him to go to a strip club
>and then we paid a stripper to give this guy a lap dance
>and then he started crying some more in the strip club
>based stripper tries to comfort the guy
>offers him a free lapdance in a private booth
>he takes the offer with tears in his eyes
Now he's an alcoholic with an addiction to stripclubs.
>>37857651
I think aids cummies are worse than alcohol or drugs you dumb faggot
>>37857387
>Basic rules: No Drinking Alcohol, No Drugs, No Smoking.
muslim here, already doing all that.
Add in no caffeine, no fap, no sex and I'm with you but this half-measure is meh
>>37857657
one of the best
>>37858037
carry on is my favorite band. patiently waiting for a reunion.
>>37859812
this kind of thing ruins the reputation of sxe. keep your crews and cliques out.
i'm surprised to see this many anons in the know about hc and sxe. broke edge many moons ago but always loved the music. honestly sxe bands are some of the best to listen to while you're buzzin. the energy is unreal.
>>37861776
I hate this platitude. Many cannot, in fact, have fun amongst intoxicated people while remaining sober themselves
>>37861987
Depends on the drinking culture. Unless people get hammered they can still have decent conversations and be tolerable when sober yourself.
>>37857402
>Gorilla Biscuits
My nig, good choice senpai.
I've been straight edge my whole life 24 not that long I know but the biggest effect I think straight edge can have on your life assuming your not preaching straight edge life style and just being a dick in general you don't have to much of a social life with a majority of people. Most people try to find a common ground on drugs and you won't be able to do that which will leave you much more isolated. Not that it's a bad thing just it gets lonely sometimes is all.
>>37862575
True, also dependent on the setting
>>37857387
>stopped smoking weed because it almost put me in the psych ward
>stopped drinking because I became an alcohol
>stopped smoking cigs because they are insanely expensive, stink, deadly, and gave me chronic bronchitis. still vape but want to quit that too.
>in the process of quitting junk food because it made me obese, almost there.
>hoping to start quitting my psych meds soon
I'm getting there bros. straight edge is definitely an inspiration for me but I think I'll choose the middle path. but first I need to experience both extremes.
>>37863064
Good for you anon I am similar except I never was on psych meds because they are obviously bullshit.
Might I ask what your junkfood habit was? Mine was soda and ice cream. Sugar addict big time.
>>37863098
For me the meds were necessary, I had an anxiety attack from weed that caused permanent anxiety to the point where I wanted to blow my brains out. If it were just for my depression I probably would have never seen a psych.
Lots of soda, chips, any sweets really, carbs and fat, barely ate real food. Same here, sugar addict as fuck, I still wake up with low blood sugar and stick any sugar/carbs I can find in my mouth before I even wake up properly. Nowadays I just eat fruit or pure dextrose to try to unlearn those habbits.
>>37861987
A thousand times this
t. The go-to designated driver
>>37857387
Based thread
I was a degenerate teenager. Straightedge imo is over the line labelwise for this lifestyle but people who do drugs/drink/whatever should be shamed.
>>37861987
Who the fuck wants to be the wiener who isn't drunk or not smoking next to a bunch of people whom are? It's uncomfortable for everyone involved.
>>37857387
I gave up drinking in Feburary and feel way better. I've never smoked or done drugs, and have no desire to either. The only drug I'd do would be steroids, but i consider that more of a supplement than a drug.
>>37863199
>For me the meds were necessary
I am sorry they convinced you of this. Big pharma has a good thing going for themselves. Market a product that performs marginally better than placebo, have doctors legally able to push these products on the masses (and with incentive, as I am sure you know your doc got a couple sweet golf vacations from GlaxoSmithKline if he hit his numbers), get people hooked on these medications, and profit like a mother fucker.
Depression, anxiety, ADD all this shit is nonsense man. It was in your head long before the weed, and since you didn't face your problems like a man you blame weed and then get hooked on another substance.
Everyone has struggles in life, you can either pretend a pill fixes them (when it simply makes them worse and pushes the pain in to the future) or deal with them correctly.
>>37857387
Because alcohol and drugs are good it moderation. Fuck off.
>>37858516
>moderate alcohol consumption is actually beneficial
>good goy
>>37863262
Lmao.
How more insecure can you get ?
>>37863495
Alright I was trying to be chill but t.b.h. you can go fuck yourself you pretentious tinfoil retard. Maybe read a few stories only and try to understand what permanent anxiety would even feel like before you open your uneducated mouth.
>le big pharma
off yourself.
Oh and by the way, ">they" didn't convince me of anything. I went in there myself and begged them for anything that could help. Doc sent me back home and I went back the next day. He refused to put me on benzos because they're incredibly addictive so he tried a couple antipsychotics until one made breathing, sleeping, and just existing not literally painful anymore.
>>37857387
>I’m curious why people on /fit/ aren’t really into straight edge
because the idea of "straight edge"
>Basic rules: No Drinking Alcohol, No Drugs, No Smoking.
is non feasible. just about every single one of us has had drugs in our system, many of us were probably born with the drugs in our system that doctors pumped into our mothers while they were giving birth. many people take drugs because it's necessary to save their lives. the idea of "not taking drugs" = "straight edge" is a fallacy and just plain wrong; it just shows you really haven't thought this topic out at all. If you had said "no drinking alcohol, and no smoking tobacco", it may have been more accurate. but just saying "drugs" is quite frankly, fucking retarded
>>37858494
not sure if trolling, but no body would make up for that face and the kind of personality that wears a hat like that. If anything, having a body with a face like that just screams "help, im trying really hard to compensate"
>>37860075
actually a lot of people need drugs to physically not die.
>this many retards acting as if all drugs are illegal and horrible for you
the most common drug addicts are the legal ones who visit starbucks daily and pop their "mental health" pills. but there are also people who actually need drugs like antibiotics to kill the bacteria or whatever thats killing them. most of you are probably "drug users" yourself, and dont even realize/admit it
>>37857387
I'm only straightedge because i have really sensitive taste buds (look up 'supertasters'), so alcohol is so bitter it makes me shiver
>>37859874
Not all rec drugs are detrimental. I switched out weed/booze for occasional 4-aco-dmt (shrooms analogue) and it has absolutely zero negative aftereffects and helps to cleanse my mind every so often
I probably should. I'm high at the gym now, drink with post workout meals, I get pretty strung out sometimes but I try to line those up with HIIT day.
>>37863262
look at this pussy
Alcohol, in monderation, will do you no harm. Wine is actually healthy if you drink a glass every now and then (antioxidants, if you think it's made up, you don't understand carbon-based-organisms). As said many times before itt, dosage makes the poison. Drinking 2 beers every now and then will not have any noticeable effect on you whatsoever. Getting shitfaced does. But yo, sometimes you just wanna get fucked up. It's important to understand your own priorities - if you're fine with hindering your fitness progress and harming your body to a small degree, go for it.
Just don't be a faggot who thinks he's better, cause he's made different choices in life. Everybody has a different opinion on how life should be valued and how it should be lived. So drink, don't drink or an hero. Either way, it's your choice. Just my two cents
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fucking ayyyy thought you guys were real straight edge. fucker's jacked as shit and a P.E teacher when he's not playing shows.
Can't I just not drink and do drugs without subscribing to some autistic subculture?
>>37863756
Now don't be a dick anon. Some self-improvement is better than nothing
>>37857387
But I already don't do anything of that, I just don't like drinking, smoking is god damn awful and while pot is nice, I only do it once every year or semester, there is nothing special about not doing it.
>>37864221
Nah man, this is the internet. You need to make an identity out of everything!
>>37857387
I would like to try wrestling, I am straight edge, lifting, no drugs no alc
Should I wrestle?
Pic related current back
>>37864648
Like not the show shit but the gay kind
the only kids i knew who went all "sXe" in highschool are now fat lards who rebounded back so hard into drugs that they can't even function in society anymore.
gg
>>37857387
alcohol is one of the reasons life is worth staying alive for.... and casual use of drugs is awesome. so it's just stupid
>>37857387
You can live a clean lifestyle (if you want, no need to get weird and elitist about it) without listening to music from the eighties and hanging out with eighties counterculture cosplayers AKA people who dress punk and listen to punk in 2016
I mean just go to a renaissance fair if you want to pretend to live in the past and involve yourself in ancient cultures for fucks sake
>>37864648
You mean greco-roman stuff? go for it, find a fight gym in your area and see if they offer classes. IDK if your back will help you, but built up strength definitely will. Also might help with mobility and will be a fun challenge.
>>37863968
In terms of building muscle, if you drink enough to feel a buzz you've essentially destroyed any gains you might have made the day previous, the day of, and the following day. You might be fine with that, but it's worth noting
>>37864875
Can you provide a link to the study proving that? Not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious
>>37864909
He's not going to post one because there's no proof. Everyone knows drinking is vaguely unhealthy for gains, but there isn't a quantifiable period where getting drunk fucks up your gains. It might not fuck up your gains at all so much as increase fat or decrease fat burn if you're on a cut.
>>37864875
Yeah that's bullshit.
Otherwise the Scottish Highland Games wouldn't even exist.
And I would still weigh 175.
>>37857387
Because it's childish rhetoric, they act like drinking 1 or 2 beers will ruin your life. They pretend that alcohol and drugs are a crutch and nothing more; they pretend there's no recreational or casual use. It's idiotic, which is why most people grow out of it by their 20's.
>>37864909
I'm sure that anon is bullshitting or really exaggerating, but I was curious and looked around a bit. Found this which is somewhat related.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0088384
>Conclusion:
We provide novel data demonstrating that alcohol consumption reduces rates of myofibrillar protein synthesis (MPS) following a bout of concurrent exercise, even when co-ingested with protein. We conclude that alcohol ingestion suppresses the anabolic response in skeletal muscle and may therefore impair recovery and adaptation to training and/or subsequent performance.
>>37864909
I can't find a specific study with those claims, but i remember coming across it when i was doing my own research a while back. Here's a general study http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3922864/
>>37865001
I forgot to mention it also decreases test and HGH production, increases estrogen, and impairs sleep. Even if its primary effects didn't inhibit muscle growth, the secondary effects certainly do
>>37864964
sadly that study only applies to rats and not humans, so we still have no conclusive answer.
>>37865091
>sadly that study only applies to rats and not humans
Did you even read the abstract?
>In a randomized cross-over design, 8 physically active males completed three experimental trials comprising resistance exercise (8×5 reps leg extension, 80% 1 repetition maximum) followed by continuous (30 min, 63% peak power output (PPO)) and high intensity interval (10×30 s, 110% PPO) cycling. Immediately, and 4 h post-exercise, subjects consumed either 500 mL of whey protein (25 g; PRO), alcohol (1.5 g·kg body mass−1, 12±2 standard drinks) co-ingested with protein (ALC-PRO), or an energy-matched quantity of carbohydrate also with alcohol (25 g maltodextrin; ALC-CHO). Subjects also consumed a CHO meal (1.5 g CHO·kg body mass−1) 2 h post-exercise. Muscle biopsies were taken at rest, 2 and 8 h post-exercise.
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>>37857387
a true straight edge would never post a thread about muh straight edge.
>>37862884
same as you, i just try and find fun by myself breaking into outdoor pools or taking random bus lines where i dont know where they go and maybe talk to the occasional homeless guy
>>37859933
He is though. If out of you two, only one needs a substance to fit in our talk to girls, who is inferior?
>>37857387
Let dudes drink if they want, people have been doing that shit since roman times. I personally don't due to personal reasons but pushing your faggy agenda like this is really gay
you fucking faggot
>>37864648
we can wrestle in my bed, big boy
Honestly what is wrong with the occassional vape session and occassional DMT trip?
Not feeling it brah... Str8Edge lmao. Hmmmm let's make the gayest club possible and give it a cool name. You would have done better with an acronym. WDDDOGP- We don't drink drug or get pussy. In case you were wondering.
>>37857658
Wrong. Nothing in the straight edge code says that you absolutely have to be celibate. It's never been a requirement.
>>37857387
I'm straight edge because
1. I literally can't process acetaldehyde properly.
2. had asthma as a kid and now am super sensitive to particulates
3. don't do drugs because the effects don't hit me as quickly and strongly as it should, and I believe I will have to use more to get the desired high, so no.
I would have probably dabbled in smokes, alcohol, and weed otherwise.
>tfw all you get from smoking weed is lag in motor control
>also uncontrollable shit eating grin
>>37857387
I'm not straight edge because I understand how to do things in moderation. I can drink and occasionally smoke and not let it be an all consuming part of my life. Frankly I think that anybody who chooses to define themselves by some arbitrary lifestyle choice, for example vegans, religious people, straight edge folks, people really into the shitty bro lifting culture, etc. are all huge fucking losers. I don't understand why people can't just be themselves without fitting in with some cliche subculture.
ive stopped drinking except in social situations. i'm not very social, so i don't drink very much.
it's been a big improvement for me mentally. i sleep better and i don't get as depressed.
i swapped booze with running shoes. i guess if that makes me straight edge then count me in too.
>>37857404
not straight edge but i'd have to disagree with that. one is just generally snobby and the other is delusional + snobby.
